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If the Rolling Stones can still do it why not Oasis !

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2020 takeover was £170m for 84%, valued club at £202m. Financed largely by banks plus bfc's own cash. Since then think owners have increased the 84% to maybe 90% plus. So question is how much would a new buyer need to offer to get a deal, and how much would be 'profit' to ALK after banks and bfc rep...

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Burnley 5 Cardiff 0, biggest win against them

Beats Burnley 6 Cardiff 2 back in 1956.

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Luton 1 Burnley 4, what a start, 2nd after 1 game !

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Burnley lead 12-10 with 3 draws at Luton league games.
Burnley to win tonight !

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Latest all time to the end of last season

P 5789 W 2257 D 1402 L 2130 F 8498 A 8353

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Scott Parker, good luck.

Haven't seen any pre season fixtures announced yet but good to have manager now prior to those.

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More or less at the same time this was going on the story is that 777 Partners put another £8m into Everton, such was their desperation to keep the deal/relationship alive, It prompted this tweet from The Esk https://twitter.com/theesk/status/1789236687513498000 In order to have any prospect of rec...

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It is quite industrial, though it is changing - Hotels opening up close by, certainly no sewage works I can see on google maps https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/The+Bramley+Moore/@53.4236116,-3.0010851,422m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m6!3m5!1s0x487b26b34dd64e07:0xe02b031f6e901fb5!8m2!3d53.4240609!4d-2.999998...

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11/5/1963, Arsenal 2 Burnley 3.

Another win in N London today perhaps...

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Think one thing being overlooked re Everton takeover.
The new stadium, maybe wrong location.
Access looks poor.
Next to a sewage works I believe.

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The Premier League (and indeed the EFL Championship) is liberally sprinkled with clubs whose owners and executives were determined to 'break down the door of the big six' , Aston Villa, is one of the more likely candidates, though there are no guarantees from The Financial Times Aston Villa aims to...

bfc8 · Re: On this day 9/5/1987 Burnley 2 Orient 1. 1888-1987, thankfully not.

9/5/1987 Burnley 2 Orient 1.

1888-1987, thankfully not.

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See how this goes with seemingly lots of 12.30 Sat tv games.

Next time perhaps make them 3.00 Sat tv games and scrap that banning rule.

Better for fans who go to the games and maybe tv watchers too.

bfc8 · Re: On this day 28/4/1924, Burnley 4 Arsenal 1.

28/4/1924, Burnley 4 Arsenal 1.

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ps, some smaller clubs could be tempted to spend beyond means up towards cap, so maybe some maximum debt type rule would also need to be introduced or the % of revenue kept in some way.

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I suspect that this piece in The Athletic today about the proposed spending caps for the Premier League is presented in to optimistic a light - some clubs benefit from Multi-club organisations, and as I have previously highlighted, Manchester City in particular have managed to persuade the games au...

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4 to go and Sheff Utd plus 2 out of 3, bfc, Luton, Forest, looks likely.
@United, Spurs.
home Newcastle, Forest.

all to play for.

bfc8 · Re: On this day 25/4/2021, Wolves 0 Burnley 4.

25/4/2021, Wolves 0 Burnley 4.

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Interestingly enough it seems that Manchester United are far from happy with the concept of anchoring from The Guardian Manchester United to fight Premier League’s proposed changes to PSR rules ‘Anchoring’ would tie wages to bottom club’s TV revenue United said to prefer model of higher investment ...

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I see there's a headline lower down on the page letting us know that the Manchester United youngster, George Best, passed Busby's test. Maybe it was a test at that United party in Belgrade mentioned later in the article, where the senior pros set youngsters initiation tests and they let Matt know. ...

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There's lots of football history around on personal websites, youtube, etc. Sometimes though the provider has to quit for various reasons and the material is often lost. A case in point was theheavyroller on youtube, lots of footage from the 1950s and 1960s, now completely removed. Think football cl...

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Think he's getting worse, probably indicates the pressure he's under and why he's decided to leave Liverpool in the summer.

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I’m not sure what exactly is wrong with someone buying a football club and spending millions to improve that club. You can’t have it the way it is. It isn’t a sport as is. Man Utd will always be light years ahead of Burnley, say. Why doesn't an investor who wants to invest in Burnley have the right...

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groove wrote: ↑
Tue Mar 19, 2024 8:11 am
I'm a bit sceptical about this. Sounds like a step towards football being state run.

like Manchester City and Newcastle United...

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One function will be to grant operating licences to clubs. One of the essentials for a licence seems to be financial reporting. Maybe we'll find out a bit more about bfc finances, like who ultimately owns us !

bfc8 · Re: On this day 10/3/2018, West Ham 0 Burnley 3, repeat today...

10/3/2018, West Ham 0 Burnley 3, repeat today...

bfc8 · Re: On this day 3/3/1962, Burnley 6 West Ham 0.

3/3/1962, Burnley 6 West Ham 0.

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29/2/2020, Newcastle 0 Burnley 0.

Today's a leap day, just 6 bfc games ever otd, 2020 was the latest.

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Reminds me of the Beatles, The Inner Light, the farther one travels the less one knows.

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The £170m was confirmed in the October 4 2021 Offer letter to the small shareholders where a minimum price per share was specified (the actual sum is less than £500 below £170m) - there was the potential for it to be more based on performance but we do not know if that was ever triggered, I suspect...

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The key bit is that the £65 million is part of the £115 million. ALK had to pay the previous directors £X million. They borrowed (in stages) £115 million from the club. The club borrowed £65 million from MSD (and replaced by new loans) so that the club could make up the £115 million it was lending ...

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It has been a while since I went through this so I will repeat there was an initial down payment of £10m from ALK, plus £65m from MSD and circa £23m from the club, following that there was another £14m borrowed from the club and that is where some people get £37m from because that was in the July 2...

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RammyClaret61 wrote: ↑
Wed Feb 28, 2024 5:00 am
God forbid NO!

Not entirely serious but with all the US owners who knows...

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Chester Perry wrote: ↑
Wed Feb 28, 2024 12:18 am
the £114.8m is made up of the £65m from MSD washed through the club and £49.8m directly from the club

and yes I saw that Telegraph report to

But I thought original takeover was £170m for 84%.
£15m their money, or separately borrowed, £55m bank, £100m bfc, in round terms.

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28/2/1925, Burnley 5 West Ham 4.

Sounds like a good game 99 years ago !

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It could be wrong but I seem to remember there was something to do with the time frames imposed on the borrowing in terms of when it came on stream, ALK's borrowing from the club was staggered - either way the the total borrowed is £114.8m which falls well under the 65% threshold - The Glazer takeo...

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Perhaps one day the PL will be expanded a bit from 20 up by letting others apply to enter. And the divisions a bit like the nfl with play-offs and a superbowl type PL final, keeps more clubs in contention for longer and no relegation. Could go to say 36 teams which I think the nfl number.

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Chester Perry wrote: ↑
Tue Feb 27, 2024 4:27 pm
The takeover valued the club at £202m - there was £65m borrowed from MSD and in this equation we have to ignore what was borrowed from the club.

Hadn't realised that borrowing from a club not included in leverage %, seems a little odd.

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BB8 wrote: ↑
Mon Jan 29, 2024 11:50 am
I'm glad someone is keeping count

Meant to say, excellent that you do.

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Latest all time following Palace on Sat.

P 5777, W 2255, D 1397, L 2125, F 8482, A 8333.

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Just remembered The Beatles Help film, 1965.

Included a scene from the 1962 cup final Burnley v. Spurs.
Think it was crowd singing in bit with Ringo in beer cellar with a tiger.

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Royboyclaret wrote: ↑
Mon Feb 26, 2024 10:29 am
Two hat-tricks......Steve Taylor and Billy Hamilton, with the brilliant Trevor Steven adding the other.

2 good cup runs that season but sadly relegated too...

bfc8 · Re: On this day 26/2/1983, Burnley 7 Charlton 1.

26/2/1983, Burnley 7 Charlton 1.

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Not unknown for teams to do a 'Lazarus'. 13 games to go, 7 points off 17th, 11 points off 16th, and Everton in 17th could get some points reinstated. So a turn around needs to come soon, perhaps unlikely, but not impossible. bfc in the PL is David v. Goliath difficult enough without being leveraged ...

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24/2/1934, Fulham 1 Burnley 1.

Last game in London otd, 90 years ago.
at Crystal Palace today.

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That's a tough one, bfc8. Are you expecting every fan to have accounting and corporate finance qualifications? No. Looked at the bfc 44 page accounts again just now. Accept they have to be produced like that. But you need some finance training to understand and to tease out the really important bit...

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First job for the regulator, insist clubs publish timely financial info in a format fans can understand.

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Root 66 not out 66 when I looked.

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23/2/2019, Burnley 2 Tottenham 1.
23/2/2022, Burnley 1 Tottenham 0.

A Spurs double...

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