Rowls wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 13, 2023 3:27 pm

OK, just stop invoking Godwin's law.

Aren't you the invokee here?

Many good points, CoolClaret. As I've alluded to, I don't have strong opinions on the death penalty, except the idea that it is uncivilised or somehow more humane than perpetual imprisonment. There are pros and cons on both sides of the debate. Prison can be humane. Norwegian prisons are very human...

The killer apparently had weaponry on both ends of the severity spectrum.

A few neutrons short of a chain reaction.

This fella sees an opportunity to get himself on the telly.

Agreed. So which is the more 'humane'? To swiftly dispatch somebody who has no place in society and no chance of rehabilitation or keep them locked up like a caged animal and deny them liberty, at great cost to the taxpayer, for the rest of their days. There's a debate to be had with merit on both ...

Alanstevensonsgloves wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 13, 2023 1:25 pm

Maybe a lot more would happen without it given the amount of fire arms held

You can fact check me on this but in the US I believe death penalty states have higher murder rates than non-death penalty states.

I tried to glean some information from twitter but the results from searching "Nottingham" are filled with people being giddy about the race of the alleged killer.

jos wrote: ↑

Sat Jun 10, 2023 10:07 pm

Abu Dhabi

It's all oil money, but fair enough.

bfcjg wrote: ↑

Sat Jun 10, 2023 10:03 pm

Just shows what having trillionaire owners can buy.

Expect more Saudi sports-washing in the future.

mostly because no one else has done much, aside from the goal.

Ederson Player of the Match?

City's defending has been awful the whole game.

Utterly shambolic defending.

That's a classy finish.

lol. Whoopsie.

Get Walker and Mahrez on. Their left back is the weak link. Ake looks shaky and Silva could have done better, so Ake & Silva off, Akanji to left defence, Walker and Mahrez to hit them where they will hurt. Inter very clever. they might come on at about 60 mins. City have been in control so far. Int...

gandhisflipflop wrote: ↑

Sat Jun 10, 2023 1:47 pm

Gary Neville
Phil Neville
Nicky butt
Ryan giggs
Andy Cole
David beckham
Teddy sheringham
Jonathan greening?
Luke Chadwick?

Paul scholes was suspended along with Roy Keane for that final, which makes the win even more remarkable

8 correct, 1 incorrect. 2 missing.

If City win tonight they will have achieved a Treble which no other English club has. It will be a purist Treble as City qualified and entered this Champions league as Premier League Champions in 2021/2022 season. When United claimed to have achieved The Treble 1999, they entered their Champions Le...

ideologues and fantasists. If we did 'just stop oil' we'd be ploughing the fields with horses practically overnight. I suspected there was more to their campaign than just it's title I decided to take a look on their website to see if what they wanted was as you described, cold turkey end to oil us...

I think when they protested a Shell AGM - delaying it for hours - and got next to zero publicity for their cause that was when i realised that disrupting traffic and sports events really is a much more effective means of protest. Good luck to them.

Absolutely not correct, it often costs more and therefore rests a major issue. It also takes a lot more time, which poor people working all the hours god sends don't have. So it's mostly a luxury of those who can both afford the added expense, and the added time. The OP has accidentally hit upon on...

Haven't done much reading into it but I assume employers would look to cut pay to some extent? Would we see a more level pay across all jobs since who would take any really boring, or unpleasant low skill/pay job? Would also be interested in what would happen to pensions? Would these be raided in p...

We're a rich enough country that people shouldn't have to work purely for survival. The fact that we allow that kind of leverage to exist is one of the reasons wages are low while productivity has skyrocketed, and is surely a huge factor contributing to the various mental health crises in the develo...