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by Holtyclaret
Fri Jul 18, 2025 7:08 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Summer transfer window
Replies: 5370
Views: 637266

Re: Summer transfer window

Tricky Trevor wrote:
Fri Jul 18, 2025 6:53 pm
-20% =£33.75m. Not to be sniffed at.
Yes and maybe the sell on doesn’t apply if they’re the buyer.
by Holtyclaret
Fri Jul 18, 2025 6:26 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Summer transfer window
Replies: 5370
Views: 637266

Re: Summer transfer window

jtv wrote:
Fri Jul 18, 2025 6:17 pm
What's the buy back clause for City? And obviously they won't be entitled to the sell on fee I presume?
£42m apparently
by Holtyclaret
Fri Jul 18, 2025 5:21 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Summer transfer window
Replies: 5370
Views: 637266

Re: Summer transfer window

Theres about 10 or so players that need selling/loaning out before Luca. We will be punching above our weight in the PL and having exciting players like him in our side gives us a chance. I was having second doubts about him but then saw him at QPR(last game but one) after a lengthy absence in the ...
by Holtyclaret
Fri Jul 18, 2025 4:36 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Summer transfer window
Replies: 5370
Views: 637266

Re: Summer transfer window

It's a doss you like to believe otherwise fair dos. We can move away from gawthorpe & portugal training side & all that jazz. The team bonding & getting to know each other can be conducted in any social environment such as paint balling or ice skating. etc. I'll leave you to believe the bonding can...
by Holtyclaret
Thu Jul 17, 2025 6:15 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Westy
Replies: 15
Views: 1969

Re: Westy

Brilliant
by Holtyclaret
Thu Jul 17, 2025 6:12 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Summer transfer window
Replies: 5370
Views: 637266

Re: Summer transfer window

It's a holiday however you sugarcoat it which isn't necessarily a bad thing. It really isn’t and I knew that’s what you were getting at. It’s full on mentally and physically. The footballing equivalent of a boxers pre-fight training camp without the bashing of beef in the meat freezers a la rocky! ...
by Holtyclaret
Thu Jul 17, 2025 6:01 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Summer transfer window
Replies: 5370
Views: 637266

Re: Summer transfer window

I get all that. But in pure footballing terms there's nothing unique in portugal that gawthorpe doesn't offer that's the point I was driving at. Parker is at no disadvantage in assessing at either location. Absolutely but it’s not hard to imagine that sp and his team will leave Portugal with a clea...
by Holtyclaret
Thu Jul 17, 2025 5:44 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Summer transfer window
Replies: 5370
Views: 637266

Re: Summer transfer window

They don't have to be in Portugal to be assessed you can do that back at gawthorpe. For all intent & purposes everybody will be on some sort of an holiday which they are entitled to do but let's see it for what it is. Going away as a group is a massive part of pre-season. Team building/bonding, squ...
by Holtyclaret
Tue Jul 15, 2025 3:58 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Summer transfer window
Replies: 5370
Views: 637266

Re: Summer transfer window

burnley007 wrote:
Tue Jul 15, 2025 12:26 pm
I wonder if we are thinking of giving Redmond another chance? he's in Portugal with the squad.
Apparently it’s a bit of a coincidence as he was out at the same place getting fit for whoever takes him. No harm in him training with us but doubt it’d go further with us.
by Holtyclaret
Sat Jul 12, 2025 8:23 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Summer transfer window
Replies: 5370
Views: 637266

Re: Summer transfer window

Proven in what respect? He was just ok in one of the worst premier league sides ever. Seems a very weird signing. I just can’t see any starting eleven where he starts for us. They’ll be plenty of games this year, particularly away from home where a tenacious jbl would be really helpful as opposed t...
by Holtyclaret
Fri Jul 11, 2025 6:24 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Summer transfer window
Replies: 5370
Views: 637266

Re: Summer transfer window

Speaking to my Norwich mate about sergant and a player plus money deal. He’d absolutely love benson to go there. The way he got us over the line that season with his world class goals will stick in the memory for a long time. He was insane. Never known me want a Burnley player to do so well and kic...
by Holtyclaret
Fri Jul 11, 2025 11:47 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Summer transfer window
Replies: 5370
Views: 637266

Re: Summer transfer window

Cullen and Laurent. In the Premier League? You wouldn't be concerned???!! Wow. Cullen, Ramsey, Hannibal, Laurent and numerous attacking mf/no. 10’s plus youngsters plus numerous defenders capable of a job at dm. Many of the linked players are midfielders though so we’re obviously looking to strengt...
by Holtyclaret
Fri Jul 11, 2025 10:35 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Summer transfer window
Replies: 5370
Views: 637266

Re: Summer transfer window

Jakubclaret wrote:
Fri Jul 11, 2025 10:21 am
Not this old chestnut again I'm done.
I was only posing the question as you appeared to have the wrong end of the stick.

Do enlighten me if I’m wrong please.
by Holtyclaret
Fri Jul 11, 2025 10:20 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Summer transfer window
Replies: 5370
Views: 637266

Re: Summer transfer window

Jakubclaret wrote:
Fri Jul 11, 2025 9:07 am
Yes it was a release clause which we decided to activate early.
Surely a release clause is activated by the buying club meeting the set price? (Not the selling club)
by Holtyclaret
Fri Jul 11, 2025 10:17 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Summer transfer window
Replies: 5370
Views: 637266

Re: Summer transfer window

randomclaret2 wrote:
Fri Jul 11, 2025 8:59 am
I notice Bauress and McDermott have been training with the First Team
They have for a while and early pre season a lot of youngsters will so sp can look them over.
by Holtyclaret
Thu Jul 10, 2025 4:05 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Cricket field stand
Replies: 362
Views: 26504

Re: Cricket field stand

So we're basically just getting a new bendy tunnel at the other side of the stand? Nothing else will change in terms of the home/away split, entrance points etc and who sits where? Who knows but definitely leaving it late to communicate if major changes. They’ll be a lot to do since promotion to re...
by Holtyclaret
Thu Jul 10, 2025 4:02 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Cricket field stand
Replies: 362
Views: 26504

Re: Cricket field stand

If, and it's a big if this switch was happening, you'd assume that a fence would go right across near to where the TV trucks park, so after leaving the ground all away fans turn left onto the alley next to the cricket pitch. I'd also assume that no home fans leaving the James Hargreaves wouldn't be...
by Holtyclaret
Thu Jul 10, 2025 3:45 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Cricket field stand
Replies: 362
Views: 26504

Re: Cricket field stand

This would be my big concern. I can see the Longside becoming a morgue without the CFS next door. But I suspect, if true, this is being done for health and safety reasons which the club seem to prioritise way over things like atmosphere. You have to hope it would activate the Bob Lord stand a bit t...
by Holtyclaret
Fri Jul 04, 2025 6:45 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Summer transfer window
Replies: 5370
Views: 637266

Re: Summer transfer window

Ekdal is a better player. Sadly parker sent one out on loan last season and kept the other for back up. Parker knows better than us I suppose though Why sadly? He was sent out on loan to get games following injury. He was never going to displace CJ last year. Worrall was bought to be starting until...
by Holtyclaret
Fri Jul 04, 2025 4:00 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Summer transfer window
Replies: 5370
Views: 637266

Re: Summer transfer window

I agree given that promotion must surely have factored into the add ons as it intrinsically added to the value & benefited the club. it's difficult to see how such an important contributory event wouldn't be admissable. I'm not sure how we are shaving a million from £15m & coming up with £14m most ...
by Holtyclaret
Mon Jun 30, 2025 9:30 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Summer transfer window
Replies: 5370
Views: 637266

Re: Summer transfer window

Commy wrote:
Mon Jun 30, 2025 9:23 pm
I have just realised that Trafford wasn't on the video or any of the photos. Has he gone :o .
Late back as was on international duty
by Holtyclaret
Mon Jun 30, 2025 3:27 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: KIT LEAK
Replies: 80
Views: 7458

Re: KIT LEAK

A sponsorless shirt is no longer a replica shirt, personally find them ridiculous.

Last year betting sponsors are allowed I believe.
by Holtyclaret
Wed Jun 25, 2025 5:09 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ARTICLE: Goalkeeper Weiβ joins the Clarets
Replies: 43
Views: 3888

Re: ARTICLE: Goalkeeper Weiβ joins the Clarets

Potentially the next Traff (in time), good signing UTC
by Holtyclaret
Wed Jun 25, 2025 3:59 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Summer transfer window
Replies: 5370
Views: 637266

Re: Summer transfer window

Has anybody an idea what percentage of Trafford Citeh will take? It could play a big part in negotiations. Not happy with the dis-respect to Nick Pope in this thread. He hasn’t gone backwards, younger keepers have improved in front of him. Still straight back in Newcastles first team after injury w...
by Holtyclaret
Tue Jun 24, 2025 9:40 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Summer transfer window
Replies: 5370
Views: 637266

Re: Summer transfer window

CrosspoolClarets wrote:
Tue Jun 24, 2025 9:17 pm
Parker relies on his man management skills to keepTrafford happy.

We can’t let both Newcastle and Leeds improve their keepers, leaving us with worse.
Depends who we have in mind to replace Traff.
by Holtyclaret
Tue Jun 24, 2025 9:02 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Summer transfer window
Replies: 5370
Views: 637266

Re: Summer transfer window

Good news on the Lazio kid. On Trafford, seems deeply unfortunate to the player, but it seems if we refuse to sell him we also deny Leeds getting Pope? Win win. Or, we get Pope in part exchange, and deny Leeds again. Win win. Pope may not be the perfect option for us, but he is a Claret and if it d...
by Holtyclaret
Tue Jun 24, 2025 3:29 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Weiss confirmed ?
Replies: 42
Views: 5645

Re: Weiss confirmed ?

dvalley69 wrote:
Tue Jun 24, 2025 3:25 pm
He's gonna be number 1, isnt he? Trafford is off to Newcastle.
In time but I’d imagine number two for a couple of years
by Holtyclaret
Tue Jun 24, 2025 10:43 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Summer transfer window
Replies: 5370
Views: 637266

Re: Max Weiss

MT03ALG wrote:
Tue Jun 24, 2025 12:55 am
Max Weiss to sign from KSC ? Will he be our new Number 1 ?
Id imagine number two for a couple of years with Traff or traffs replacement number one.
by Holtyclaret
Mon Jun 23, 2025 8:36 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Summer 2025 BFC Transfer Window - Links and discussion on the Linked player only.
Replies: 357
Views: 69519

Re: Summer 2025 BFC Transfer Window - Links and discussion on the Linked player only.

ollieclarets8 wrote:
Mon Jun 23, 2025 3:12 pm
Looking like Max Weiss is going to be our number 1 this season.
He’ll be number two to whoever’s our number one
by Holtyclaret
Wed Jun 18, 2025 5:46 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Our injured players.
Replies: 36
Views: 3675

Re: Our injured players.

Fun fact : Ekdal has never played a game for us fully fit.

Looks like after a successful loan to get games into him and subsequent internationals we may just see a fit and firing Ekdal this year.
by Holtyclaret
Sun Jun 15, 2025 12:11 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brownhill
Replies: 62
Views: 10580

Re: Brownhill

If only there was a window of opportunity for us to sign replacement/new players?
by Holtyclaret
Sat Jun 14, 2025 6:23 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Chris Wilder gone …..
Replies: 79
Views: 12224

Re: Chris Wilder gone …..

warksclaret wrote:
Fri Jun 13, 2025 10:44 pm
Has Wilders sacking been confirmed yet?
Not yet although it’s apparently still on the cards.
by Holtyclaret
Thu Jun 12, 2025 10:07 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Chris Wilder gone …..
Replies: 79
Views: 12224

Re: Chris Wilder gone …..

CrosspoolClarets wrote:
Thu Jun 12, 2025 10:01 am
I heard this rumour from several Blades fans yesterday. Felt like it had legs.
Blades ramble doing a live on it, Wilder really is marmite and a good section of their fans are gutted.

It’ll be interesting to see what happens, some very good players that might want out.
by Holtyclaret
Thu Jun 12, 2025 9:58 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Chris Wilder gone …..
Replies: 79
Views: 12224

Chris Wilder gone …..

By all accounts and their fanbase very much split on Dyche being his replacement (if it plays out that way).
by Holtyclaret
Wed Jun 11, 2025 10:14 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ARTICLE:Egan-Riley leaves Burnley
Replies: 200
Views: 14177

Re: ARTICLE:Egan-Riley leaves Burnley

Mason Greenwood at Marseille on €105k per week. I’m guessing they know each other quite well. Pay decent wages too.
by Holtyclaret
Wed Jun 11, 2025 8:08 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ARTICLE:Egan-Riley leaves Burnley
Replies: 200
Views: 14177

Re: ARTICLE:Egan-Riley leaves Burnley

Not good enough from Pace n Williams More interested in memberships that bring next to nothing into the club Bad day at the office You don’t think we offered him the most we could/think he’s worth? Can’t do much more than that. No massive loss, it’s his choice. Do you think Williams is involved in ...
by Holtyclaret
Fri Jun 06, 2025 5:40 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Keeping hold of Trafford, Esteve and Egan-riley
Replies: 48
Views: 6937

Re: Keeping hold of Trafford, Esteve and Egan-riley

You're sure? I can't imagine any player or his agent agreeing a contract where he is guaranteed nothing but his club has the right to whistle and make him come. I doubt it would be legal under FA / FIFA rules about being under ownership of two clubs. I doubt it would be considered a fair contract u...
by Holtyclaret
Thu Jun 05, 2025 7:54 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Summer transfer window
Replies: 5370
Views: 637266

Re: Summer transfer window

KlyBfc wrote:
Thu Jun 05, 2025 7:39 pm
He was one of those who refused to be involved at Sunderland i believe. At least Amdouni for example went on the bench, he just wouldn’t be involved.
We know that as fact do we?

If so we’d certainly not be entertaining his return which shows what a load of tat most transfer rumours are.
by Holtyclaret
Thu Jun 05, 2025 7:28 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Summer transfer window
Replies: 5370
Views: 637266

Re: Summer transfer window

No thanks. He was desperate to leave to whoever came calling. Not someone i want to watch play in our shirt again (like a number of those who left quick sharp). It may have been the club who welcomed the move and pushed it. We had plenty of cb’s, saved a wage and recouped some of the financial shor...
by Holtyclaret
Thu Jun 05, 2025 1:18 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ARTICLE: Huddersfield, Shrewsbury and Stoke are pre-season opponents
Replies: 39
Views: 4109

Re: ARTICLE: Huddersfield, Shrewsbury and Stoke are pre-season opponents

They’ll be all manner of behind closed doors games too you’d imagine
by Holtyclaret
Wed Jun 04, 2025 7:23 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Summer transfer window
Replies: 5370
Views: 637266

Re: Summer transfer window

Not sure - he's 26 and played 83 games lifetime - smacks of Kevin Long Long played his part in the squad as a fourth choice cb perfectly. Was never going to get much gametime behind mee, Tarks and Keane but was always ready when needed and never moaned. There’s always players who get less gametime ...
by Holtyclaret
Wed Jun 04, 2025 4:23 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Michael Carrick
Replies: 74
Views: 4849

Re: Michael Carrick

When they had their most balanced squad, he finished 3rd. I also think he develops players which is important for clubs at this level, and should be another ‘metric’ for manager performance. I take your point regarding how xG is used incorrectly by some in your example provided, I recall that one m...
by Holtyclaret
Sat May 31, 2025 4:22 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Summer transfer window
Replies: 5370
Views: 637266

Re: Summer transfer window

fatboy47 wrote:
Sat May 31, 2025 2:16 pm
If the answer's an 18 year old kid from Liverpool's youth team, I'm wondering what the question may be.
Who might be worth fortunes in a few years time?
by Holtyclaret
Fri May 30, 2025 10:03 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Endsleigh Stand Member
Replies: 21
Views: 2060

Re: Endsleigh Stand Member

I also remember a player meet and greet event at the endsleigh office in town where we could get all the players autographs.
by Holtyclaret
Fri May 30, 2025 10:00 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Endsleigh Stand Member
Replies: 21
Views: 2060

Re: Endsleigh Stand Member

claret wizard wrote:
Fri May 30, 2025 9:53 pm
Must have been late 80’s or early 90’s Tony, it was the Cricket Field stand members scheme (I think). Sure somebody else will remember better.
Yes I think it was £5 a year or so to be a member before you could get a st in there.
by Holtyclaret
Fri May 30, 2025 9:52 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Endsleigh Stand Member
Replies: 21
Views: 2060

Re: Endsleigh Stand Member

I have one, it was a freebie with a cfs season ticket 1989ish
by Holtyclaret
Fri May 30, 2025 9:37 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Summer transfer window
Replies: 5370
Views: 637266

Re: Summer transfer window

Jakubclaret wrote:
Fri May 30, 2025 9:17 pm
& that's worked out well. God knows how many bad apples I can think of in recent times yes every club has them to what degree.
Said at a time when player togetherness and bond are at an all-time high.
by Holtyclaret
Thu May 29, 2025 5:25 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Nathan Redmond
Replies: 17
Views: 3143

Re: Nathan Redmond

Class act
by Holtyclaret
Wed May 28, 2025 5:56 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: New Jaidon Anthony Chant ?
Replies: 4
Views: 1210

Re: New Jaidon Anthony Chant ?

Jaidons aquaphobic, jaidons aquaphobic

La la la la Sui, la la la la Sui!

(I prefer your chant haha)