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by Elizabeth
Mon Apr 08, 2024 12:37 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: I’m so sick of Kompany
Replies: 349
Views: 15559

Re: I’m so sick of Kompany

Way more experienced managers than we have now such as Ten Hag (great at Ajax), Tuchel (serial winner), Pochetino (got Spurs to a CL final, Spurs !!!) can't get a consistent tune out of their players and teams and it's taken Arteta 4 years at Arsenal and hundreds of millions spent on players to do ...
by Elizabeth
Mon Apr 08, 2024 12:21 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Premier league title
Replies: 34
Views: 1584

Re: Premier league title

It would take a brave man or fool to predict with any certainty who will win it. I suspect if Liverpool had won today more would fancy them tonight. As it is I'm guessing some of their votes have gone to City. I forecast Arsenal amongst my friends right at the start of the season so I've got to stic...
by Elizabeth
Mon Apr 08, 2024 12:06 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: I’m so sick of Kompany
Replies: 349
Views: 15559

Re: I’m so sick of Kompany

You are very very wrong, I've played LOADS of football, witnessed loads of team talks with direct instructions to players and the players haven't carried out the managers tactics. That's down to players and it happens in all but the VERY best teams Ok Vegas, I hope I didn't insult you. Sounds like ...
by Elizabeth
Sun Apr 07, 2024 11:55 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: The next 2 seasons
Replies: 29
Views: 1798

Re: The next 2 seasons

Been discussing with my lads (16 and 18) tonight the next 2 seasons... I said my dream would be for us to finish 3,4,5 or 6th get through the playoffs but lose at Wembley in the final for 2 seasons running. I know there will be financial implications via parachute payments and the fact we have a de...
by Elizabeth
Sun Apr 07, 2024 11:42 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: I’m so sick of Kompany
Replies: 349
Views: 15559

Re: I’m so sick of Kompany

if a 70 million pound footballer sticks a 30 yarder into the top corner in the 44th minute (as a random example) what has that got to do with discipline ? I don't think we are on the same page here. You don't think the high number of goals we have conceded at the end of both halves has been been a ...
by Elizabeth
Sun Apr 07, 2024 10:16 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: I’m so sick of Kompany
Replies: 349
Views: 15559

Re: I’m so sick of Kompany

tbh I'd say at least 3 reds have been ridiculous BUT we absolutely have to do better. Out of interest does anyone remember how many reds we got last season ? Timings of goals are neither here nor there, teams at this level punish you at the slightest mistake. We will have to disagree about how sign...
by Elizabeth
Sun Apr 07, 2024 8:32 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: I’m so sick of Kompany
Replies: 349
Views: 15559

Re: I’m so sick of Kompany

there is a reason there are levels in football, one of the key factors is concentration - the TOP players have it and rarely make mistakes but many gain it through experience - we have neither, it's amazing how surprised some are by a lot of things we have seen this season. All very true but I'm ge...
by Elizabeth
Sun Apr 07, 2024 10:08 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: I’m so sick of Kompany
Replies: 349
Views: 15559

Re: I’m so sick of Kompany

A self inflicted body blow and wasted opportunity yesterday but I'm sticking with supporting the manager for continuity reasons .He's performed as poorly this season as any Burnley manager I can remember in my 60+ years of being a Claret fan and I completely understand so many wanting him sacked.
by Elizabeth
Sun Apr 07, 2024 9:54 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: O'Shea ball control
Replies: 48
Views: 3248

Re: O'Shea ball control

One of the many new signings that haven't come to terms with the demands of the Premier League. I don't know whether he ever will but suspect he hasn't been helped by not having someone next to him on the field talking him through games. On the incident itself I would be expecting a red card every t...
by Elizabeth
Wed Apr 03, 2024 6:36 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: The lack of minutes on the pitch for Benson
Replies: 31
Views: 2272

Re: The lack of minutes on the pitch for Benson

In his very short time on the field last night he did his trademark trickery which tested their goalkeeper, yet he's been absent for most of the time he's been fit this season It's really been difficult to accept as can be witnessed by the many comments throughout the season.
by Elizabeth
Wed Apr 03, 2024 6:28 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Not Flagging Offsides
Replies: 20
Views: 1538

Re: Not Flagging Offsides

This is true, Elizabeth and is definitely the heart of the problem and I kind of get the thinking behind it tbf and it's good intentions. Let a goal be scored and let VAR chalk it off rather a liner prevent it being scored with a hasty and erroneous flag. BUT, surely when a ball is played over towa...
by Elizabeth
Wed Apr 03, 2024 5:48 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Six Points From Safety... Everton A Must Win?
Replies: 37
Views: 2259

Re: Six Points From Safety... Everton A Must Win?

I'm certain we are good enough to keep the unbeaten run going. I'm less certain we are good enough to provide the killer touch we need to produce in this key game.
Confidence in the officiating is at a low and will always affect our thinking. We really do need that balancing out we always hear about.
by Elizabeth
Wed Apr 03, 2024 5:43 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Not Flagging Offsides
Replies: 20
Views: 1538

Re: Not Flagging Offsides

It was utterly ridiculous last night and tbf I don't think I blame the liner because he's only following orders from above. As mentioned there was one occasion when play was allowed to go on when the guy had clearly been caught offside and Vitihno ended up prostrate on the touchline after challengi...
by Elizabeth
Tue Apr 02, 2024 10:50 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Free Kick Or No Free Kick
Replies: 69
Views: 4211

Re: Free Kick Or No Free Kick

The simple answer is that it wasn't a foul. The pace of the game is so great you see these given all the time so no special criticism of the ref from me.
I wouldn't be too harsh on the defending of a great free kick delivery.
by Elizabeth
Sat Mar 30, 2024 6:41 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Coming of age?
Replies: 30
Views: 2456

Re: Coming of age?

We are getting there but is it too late frustratingly ?
by Elizabeth
Sat Mar 30, 2024 6:14 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Jay Rod
Replies: 50
Views: 3795

Re: Jay Rod

claret2018 wrote:
Sat Mar 30, 2024 5:52 pm
I must have been watching a different game. He was a passenger for most of it and then fluffed his lines when it mattered.

Shouldn’t be anywhere near a Premier League squad.
You were watching something other than the game
by Elizabeth
Sat Mar 30, 2024 6:13 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Jay Rod
Replies: 50
Views: 3795

Re: Jay Rod

Awesome today for someone supposedly past it.
by Elizabeth
Sat Mar 30, 2024 6:08 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Clarets vs Chelsea Match Thread
Replies: 611
Views: 15975

Re: Clarets vs Chelsea Match Thread

Burnley were immense today. Down to 10 men, one of the best performances against the odds I’ve witnessed. We were the best team and we’ve just got to use it as a positive.
The whole season now looks different to me
by Elizabeth
Fri Mar 29, 2024 11:27 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: SD in bother
Replies: 57
Views: 5507

Re: SD in bother

boatshed bill wrote:
Fri Mar 29, 2024 9:18 pm
A "slap"? I've heard that term used for so many different extents of manual violence ;)
All a bit vague bill. Have you anything pertinent to disclose to give an idea of where you stand on this particular incident involving Dyche ?
by Elizabeth
Fri Mar 29, 2024 11:16 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: PREVIEW: Break over and run in starts at Chelsea
Replies: 11
Views: 956

Re: PREVIEW: Break over and run in starts at Chelsea

Never a better time to play Chelsea. Are they any better than West Ham?
We seem to be learning in the second half of the season so for me I’m watching how we deal with Stirling who tore us to pieces at our place
by Elizabeth
Fri Mar 29, 2024 11:13 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Season tickets next season
Replies: 816
Views: 52500

Re: Season tickets next season

It isn't at all Seen as what, 7 of them was under a previous ownership group that did freeze prices - so that time period cannot be included whatsoever, to do so is disingenuous at best. Surely before coming to their decision they have considered all the seasons before their arrival that fans have ...
by Elizabeth
Fri Mar 29, 2024 3:17 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Season tickets next season
Replies: 816
Views: 52500

Re: Season tickets next season

AGENT_CLARET wrote:
Fri Mar 29, 2024 3:05 pm
They should
I suppose that pinpoints that no matter how reasonable you think you are being some will find it unreasonable. I suppose life would be dull otherwise
by Elizabeth
Fri Mar 29, 2024 3:11 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: SD in bother
Replies: 57
Views: 5507

Re: SD in bother

In an age where a parent may not slap their own child, however gently, selective outrage is not required when someone slaps another person. Or, are there limits to what is deemed unacceptable because the person receiving the slap was a man? I didn’t mean to go deep mik. Until I see anything differe...
by Elizabeth
Fri Mar 29, 2024 3:03 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Season tickets next season
Replies: 816
Views: 52500

Re: Season tickets next season

I’m saving up my annoyance energy for the day they ever try to start charging carers for going on
by Elizabeth
Fri Mar 29, 2024 2:29 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: SD in bother
Replies: 57
Views: 5507

Re: SD in bother

Dyche attempted to play it down at the news conference but this is the type of thing the vultures wait for with their selective outrage
by Elizabeth
Fri Mar 29, 2024 2:23 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: SD in bother
Replies: 57
Views: 5507

Re: SD in bother

I saw Stan in the Burnley Tesco store this week and thought something similar
by Elizabeth
Fri Mar 29, 2024 2:13 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: SD in bother
Replies: 57
Views: 5507

Re: SD in bother

For anybody who didn’t see the press conference Dyche admitted the slap and said the player did not appreciate it.
by Elizabeth
Fri Mar 29, 2024 2:01 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Season tickets next season
Replies: 816
Views: 52500

Re: Season tickets next season

Is it by chance they think they might make more money ? This thread is extensive and there are many opinions and I’m sure that is one of them. I suspect yours is a rhetorical question that doesn’t need an offer of an answer. While I could expand I would only be repeating what some others have said ...
by Elizabeth
Thu Mar 28, 2024 10:59 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Season tickets next season
Replies: 816
Views: 52500

Re: Season tickets next season

While being sensitive to any fan badly affected by the increased cost and understanding why many are against it I can see why the club have done this
by Elizabeth
Tue Mar 19, 2024 2:32 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Notts Forest: do you now have hope we will survive?
Replies: 94
Views: 5574

Re: Notts Forest: do you now have hope we will survive?

Starting with Chelsea away. Similar side to West Ham form wise so no reason we can’t get something there to build on the momentum from the last couple of games.
Of course the Forest points deduction should buck us all up
by Elizabeth
Sat Mar 16, 2024 8:29 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Fofana & Foster - deadly duo?
Replies: 30
Views: 2152

Re: Fofana & Foster - deadly duo?

I’m not sure , might be too similar
by Elizabeth
Sat Mar 16, 2024 8:19 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Amdouni
Replies: 57
Views: 3484

Re: Amdouni

equinox wrote:
Sat Mar 16, 2024 8:00 pm
I presume you're a woman, so you probably would.
That is probably one of only two times a year you are funny equinox
by Elizabeth
Sat Mar 16, 2024 7:55 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Amdouni
Replies: 57
Views: 3484

Re: Amdouni

If someone said he was useless I'd not argue
by Elizabeth
Sat Mar 16, 2024 7:49 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Controversial comment
Replies: 57
Views: 4556

Re: Controversial comment

boatshed bill wrote:
Sat Mar 16, 2024 7:38 pm
Go on then just for fun, name me 20 players at an average of £4million each who would have been an improvement. :D
Now bill, my fun is reading you when you are silly , you know that
by Elizabeth
Sat Mar 16, 2024 7:28 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Controversial comment
Replies: 57
Views: 4556

Re: Controversial comment

So many changes in 3 windows, obviously on what would (by anyone with a brain) be seen as a very low spend in PL terms. We've tried to bring in young players as investments for the future. Some may work out, and we're not down yet. Dream on bill about us not being down. We could have spent the same...
by Elizabeth
Sat Mar 16, 2024 7:03 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Controversial comment
Replies: 57
Views: 4556

Re: Controversial comment

No. With these players no manager would have kept us up.
The wrong players are at a club expecting to remain in the top division
by Elizabeth
Sat Mar 16, 2024 6:42 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Have Faith in the Project!!
Replies: 48
Views: 2415

Re: Have Faith in the Project!!

boatshed bill wrote:
Sat Mar 16, 2024 6:28 pm
Not "no chance" because there are some sides just as inept as we are.
Too much to make up bill
by Elizabeth
Sat Mar 16, 2024 6:26 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Have Faith in the Project!!
Replies: 48
Views: 2415

Re: Have Faith in the Project!!

No chance. We nearly threw it away against 10 men and that would not have surprised me as the die has already been cast. I'm happy with the 3 points obviously and Kompany having the courage to admit he needed to change goalkeepers. Other than that we still have too much inexperience and mistakes wai...
by Elizabeth
Sat Mar 16, 2024 6:14 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Arijanet Muric
Replies: 388
Views: 16886

Re: Arijanet Muric

Putting the obvious primary school arguments to one side, Muric was immense today
by Elizabeth
Sat Mar 16, 2024 6:09 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: The table
Replies: 35
Views: 2639

Re: The table

Everton 10 point deduction reduced to 6 points. Imagine Everton and Forest get deducted 6 points this time and we survive by one point from either of them. Then the Appeal is heard after the season has ended. Where would that leave us ?
by Elizabeth
Fri Mar 15, 2024 7:20 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Sue Bolton - RIP
Replies: 23
Views: 2432

Re: Sue Bolton - RIP

DumfriesClaret wrote:
Fri Mar 15, 2024 4:56 pm
Good afternoon all,

passed away after a short illness.

My thoughts are with her husband Allen and the rest of the extended family and friends.
This is so sad, RIP
by Elizabeth
Thu Mar 14, 2024 12:44 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: RATE THE REF - Darren England v West Ham United
Replies: 22
Views: 1578

Re: RATE THE REF - Darren England v West Ham United

To be fair Elizabeth, as with player ratings you can't delay publishing it. They'd be uproar on here :lol: People have to manage their own time to reflect then mark. Regarding only 3 posters marking is just human nature, I'm more likely to mark a poor ref than a good one, but like the 3 that have m...
by Elizabeth
Wed Mar 13, 2024 7:46 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: RATE THE REF - Darren England v West Ham United
Replies: 22
Views: 1578

Re: RATE THE REF - Darren England v West Ham United

ClaretTony wrote:
Wed Mar 13, 2024 6:25 pm
Strange response from someone who doesn't understand what it's about but I won't waste my time replying again.
Good, I’ve nothing further to add too
by Elizabeth
Wed Mar 13, 2024 5:45 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: RATE THE REF - Darren England v West Ham United
Replies: 22
Views: 1578

Re: RATE THE REF - Darren England v West Ham United

Carry on with your derision if it suits you. A bit of constructive advice. Delay it. Allow people time to reflect before commenting fresh after the game. Its often useful to have another look at incidents on TV as opinions from watching the game can change. Only three posters marking and several bum...
by Elizabeth
Wed Mar 13, 2024 11:27 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: RATE THE REF - Darren England v West Ham United
Replies: 22
Views: 1578

Re: RATE THE REF - Darren England v West Ham United

ClaretTony wrote:
Wed Mar 13, 2024 10:43 am
Nonsense - these posts have been running for years and were never created for slagging referees but for rating their performances as per the sticky thread at the top of the board.
You can deride as much as you like but it won't change the pattern of this thread. Its so predictable
by Elizabeth
Wed Mar 13, 2024 12:01 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Tresor
Replies: 81
Views: 6422

Re: Tresor

ClaretPete001 wrote:
Tue Mar 12, 2024 9:54 pm
Have you see him tracking back yet?
I think his tracking back would be no worse than Zaroury and Benson and they didn't do too bad for us in the Championship
by Elizabeth
Tue Mar 12, 2024 11:56 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Tresor
Replies: 81
Views: 6422

Re: Tresor

I really find it hard to understand how anyone can have come up with an informed opinion about his ability in the championship either way based on his appearances up to now. I believe he will rip the championship up but whilst I have seen slithers of his ability it is mainly based on him being one ...
by Elizabeth
Tue Mar 12, 2024 8:59 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Tresor
Replies: 81
Views: 6422

Re: Tresor

The idea that he would "rip up" the Championship is based on what ? He's been awful whenever I've seen him ...I mean really, really terrible..... so this opinion seems to me to be just a hopeful fantasy. I accept that his stats in Belgium may offer some hope but the evidence of my own eyes suggest ...
by Elizabeth
Tue Mar 12, 2024 8:54 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Tresor
Replies: 81
Views: 6422

Re: Tresor

I do get your point but I was commenting on the Championship not the PL. I'm also unhappy about the dynamics of the team this season
by Elizabeth
Tue Mar 12, 2024 7:58 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: RATE THE REF - Darren England v West Ham United
Replies: 22
Views: 1578

Re: RATE THE REF - Darren England v West Ham United

This thread was created for the sole purpose of slagging referees so no surprise to me that a referee has a good game and there are few posts