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by mdd2
Sat Oct 31, 2020 11:57 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Nobby Stiles
Replies: 28
Views: 1531

Re: Nobby Stiles

I don't think the stats are any different to anywhere else, I just think they get highlighted when they are footballers. I also think Geoff Hurst might not be too happy if he sees this post - he's 78 :D I was quoting from the Scottish study Tony. Sorry about Sir Geoff. We conducted a retrospective ...
by mdd2
Sat Oct 31, 2020 10:29 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: SARS-COV2 could cease to be a pandemic in the near future
Replies: 496
Views: 16148

Re: SARS-COV2 could cease to be a pandemic in the near future

Vaccine will be too late for that US_even if it were available it is a massive task to vaccinate NHS staff care home staff and residents as well as all those over say 65 in a few weeks It is track and trace that needs to be up and running pari passu (that better than rhyming slang :D :D ) easing of ...
by mdd2
Sat Oct 31, 2020 10:25 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Nobby Stiles
Replies: 28
Views: 1531

Re: Nobby Stiles

Suffered badly with dementia for many years - I've had a dear friend pass away today after suffering similarly. RIP Nobby Said to be 3.5 times more common in ex professional footballers and four of the seven WC team have gone suffering with it, Stiles aged 78, Charlton, 85, Peters, 76, Wilson 83, w...
by mdd2
Sat Oct 31, 2020 10:04 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
Replies: 9110
Views: 608994

Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

If those were true, then why have the board not been taking any money out of the club in the past, particularly during our time in the EPL when some serious money has been coming in? Given the dog's abuse that Mike Garlick in particular seems to get on this board and elsewhere, I wouldn't criticise...
by mdd2
Sat Oct 31, 2020 10:02 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: SARS-COV2 could cease to be a pandemic in the near future
Replies: 496
Views: 16148

Re: SARS-COV2 could cease to be a pandemic in the near future

Take the masks for instance. Every single expert from Vallance to Whitty to Van Tam insisted on tv that there was no evidence that they worked. And went as far as saying could make things worse. Anyone with half a brain could see that the only reason they said this was so normal folk didn’t buy up t...
by mdd2
Sat Oct 31, 2020 9:45 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: SARS-COV2 could cease to be a pandemic in the near future
Replies: 496
Views: 16148

Re: SARS-COV2 could cease to be a pandemic in the near future

The stats to worry about are hospital admissions for this, deaths and excess deaths from things other than Covid and for sure I think we will start to see a rise in excess deaths if admissions continue to rise. Deaths from Covid may not exceed the 40K before the summer but that will be down to the c...
by mdd2
Fri Oct 30, 2020 10:52 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: SARS-COV2 could cease to be a pandemic in the near future
Replies: 496
Views: 16148

Re: SARS-COV2 could cease to be a pandemic in the near future

No I get most of that in regard to yourself CFC Must confess I had not thought that the non wearing of masks was to avoid lack of NHS supplies and that there truly was no evidence for them at the start and that the evidence came later which is why we changed tac If I have time I might do a search to...
by mdd2
Fri Oct 30, 2020 10:25 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: SARS-COV2 could cease to be a pandemic in the near future
Replies: 496
Views: 16148

Re: SARS-COV2 could cease to be a pandemic in the near future

Hi CF but if we are not obedient we will continue with rising or levelling of deaths and 200/day from Covid is 6000/month potentially from now to the end of March. The deaths presently are despite better care of the airways, dexamathasone (which has been a real game changer) and there is nothing apa...
by mdd2
Fri Oct 30, 2020 10:02 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: SARS-COV2 could cease to be a pandemic in the near future
Replies: 496
Views: 16148

Re: SARS-COV2 could cease to be a pandemic in the near future

It's more phrasing that you used was ageist and bigotry. I have seen many elderly people in A&E. I can't recall any that were drunk. Sorry to return to this Undersiege but you have libelled me by calling me a bigot when you have not a shred of evidence of the truth of your accusation which seems to ...
by mdd2
Fri Oct 30, 2020 4:27 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: SARS-COV2 could cease to be a pandemic in the near future
Replies: 496
Views: 16148

Re: SARS-COV2 could cease to be a pandemic in the near future

I think I have stated it before and it is striking a balance and we will never get it right How a lockdown affects you as an individual will be how you judge a lockdown The benefits are known from the last one The downsides are also largely known What is not known is how best to protect society from...
by mdd2
Fri Oct 30, 2020 4:10 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: SARS-COV2 could cease to be a pandemic in the near future
Replies: 496
Views: 16148

Re: SARS-COV2 could cease to be a pandemic in the near future

Oh dear US unlike you to shoot from the hip Let me educate you One of the questions to elderly fallers and their relatives is their medication and alcohol consumption as covert drink problems are a real problem in some elderly and this is sometimes missed by caters and relatives and medics if you ar...
by mdd2
Fri Oct 30, 2020 12:13 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: SARS-COV2 could cease to be a pandemic in the near future
Replies: 496
Views: 16148

Re: SARS-COV2 could cease to be a pandemic in the near future

Age UK has today revealed that 250,000 people aged 65+ in England are treated in hospital as the result of a fall every year https://www.ageuk.org.uk/latest-press/a ... very-year/ And a fair number because they are Brahms and Liszt. Save from that problem and getting rid of a lot of medications they...
by mdd2
Fri Oct 30, 2020 11:59 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: SARS-COV2 could cease to be a pandemic in the near future
Replies: 496
Views: 16148

Re: SARS-COV2 could cease to be a pandemic in the near future

No mention of plasma cells yet. :lol: :lol: :lol: They produce immunoglobulins IgG, IgA, IgD IgE and IgM and are derived from lymphocytes but are bigger and reside in the bone marrow. IgA is important as a lining antibody and for Covid would be of use in the airways. AS CF has alluded it may be bett...
by mdd2
Fri Oct 30, 2020 10:27 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: SARS-COV2 could cease to be a pandemic in the near future
Replies: 496
Views: 16148

Re: SARS-COV2 could cease to be a pandemic in the near future

We are moving towards that point in time when the pandemic ends. That is why are started this thread to start a discussion about how near to the end we are. My uneducated guestimate is spring at the latest. So have you moved from your original given that the pandemic remains out of control? I quote...
by mdd2
Fri Oct 30, 2020 10:08 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
Replies: 9110
Views: 608994

Re: ALK Capital...

Steve-Harpers-perm wrote:
Fri Oct 30, 2020 9:26 am
Think there is a reason he’s not wanted to spend any money recently!
May be because he is more aware than most what this virus is doing to BFC finances
by mdd2
Fri Oct 30, 2020 10:06 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Eli Day
Replies: 63
Views: 2034

Re: Eli Day

Never met him but he was an exceptional poster and must have been great in person. Amazed at the time since his passing and sadly with his passing he missed our promotions to the big time and the new MB
by mdd2
Fri Oct 30, 2020 9:07 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: SARS-COV2 could cease to be a pandemic in the near future
Replies: 496
Views: 16148

Re: SARS-COV2 could cease to be a pandemic in the near future

There is no need for "the elderly" to be housebound at all. The elderly are not all frail and frequent fallers, there are degrees of frailty too so we need to be careful when talking about those at most risk from Covid. Being out and about but avoiding social mixing and keeping SD wearing masks is p...
by mdd2
Fri Oct 30, 2020 7:56 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: SARS-COV2 could cease to be a pandemic in the near future
Replies: 496
Views: 16148

Re: SARS-COV2 could cease to be a pandemic in the near future

We have no evidence in populations as yet what the T cell immunity implies with Covid-19 only the knowledge that CD4 and CD8 T cells play a role in cell based immunity with the ability to kill cells which carry the virus as well as T cells which promote antibody production in B lymphocytes. Based on...
by mdd2
Thu Oct 29, 2020 10:54 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: SARS-COV2 could cease to be a pandemic in the near future
Replies: 496
Views: 16148

Re: SARS-COV2 could cease to be a pandemic in the near future

The elderly is not a homogenous group and our responses to infection vary as do the young (lost a man in his 20"s from covid recently). We are still awaiting results of the vaccine trials which show a response from the immune system in both antibody responses and T cell responses. We have no idea ho...
by mdd2
Thu Oct 29, 2020 12:28 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: SARS-COV2 could cease to be a pandemic in the near future
Replies: 496
Views: 16148

Re: SARS-COV2 could cease to be a pandemic in the near future

Really doesn’t matter whether we are behind or in front We know how this infection runs and how it seemed to start in London and spread and now the resurgence started in the NW and is spreading outwards We are likely to have proportionately fewer deaths percentage wise due to treatments and we have ...
by mdd2
Wed Oct 28, 2020 11:40 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: SARS-COV2 could cease to be a pandemic in the near future
Replies: 496
Views: 16148

Re: SARS-COV2 could cease to be a pandemic in the near future

DST from where I am it is not the over 80’s or any age group it is the simple fact that the NHS cannot cope with having the extra burden of Covid unless it stops other activity Greater Manchester is already on its knees coping with the extra cases and Newsnight stated that some cancer treatments hav...
by mdd2
Wed Oct 28, 2020 11:25 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: SARS-COV2 could cease to be a pandemic in the near future
Replies: 496
Views: 16148

Re: SARS-COV2 could cease to be a pandemic in the near future

More false negatives than positives with the test

But that is another problem not germain to optimistic pessimism or pessimistic optimism :roll: which is where I would put Undersiege and myself
by mdd2
Wed Oct 28, 2020 10:33 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: SARS-COV2 could cease to be a pandemic in the near future
Replies: 496
Views: 16148

Re: SARS-COV2 could cease to be a pandemic in the near future

Should good news about coronavirus be banned? No but quoting that a vaccine may be available by Xmas might be tempered by it may not be available as we just do not know. That some of us have T cells that seem to attack the virus in vitro is not necessarily good news-it is just news, whether it tran...
by mdd2
Wed Oct 28, 2020 9:57 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: SARS-COV2 could cease to be a pandemic in the near future
Replies: 496
Views: 16148

Re: SARS-COV2 could cease to be a pandemic in the near future

Too many people are disbelievers and only wake up and smell the coffee (not when they have Covid) when they or a relative/friend goes down with it and there will be about 3 types of people 1) those that stick to the advice 90%+ of the time 2) those that do not bother at all 3) a half way house who s...
by mdd2
Wed Oct 28, 2020 9:01 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: SARS-COV2 could cease to be a pandemic in the near future
Replies: 496
Views: 16148

Re: SARS-COV2 could cease to be a pandemic in the near future

The number of admissions to Manchester hospitals is already stretching beds and staff. Mainstream ITU's are full or near full with cases needing ITU moving between hospitals and some Trusts now have 5 and 6 wards full of Covid cases. The NHS will not be able to carry on doing its usual work and deal...
by mdd2
Wed Oct 28, 2020 9:51 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: SARS-COV2 could cease to be a pandemic in the near future
Replies: 496
Views: 16148

Re: SARS-COV2 could cease to be a pandemic in the near future

Careful CFC you never know and what you don't want is shingles when you are older-please get the vaccine when offered it at 70 years whenever that maybe. Post herpetic neuralgia is dreadful and very difficult to treat and can last for years. It ruined my mother's latter years. Even if you have had C...
by mdd2
Wed Oct 28, 2020 9:03 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: SARS-COV2 could cease to be a pandemic in the near future
Replies: 496
Views: 16148

Re: SARS-COV2 could cease to be a pandemic in the near future

As I have been saying about the NW and the hit being taken by Covid-today the Nightingale "hospital" is open to take non-Covid patients who need to complete their rehab to free up hospital beds in the main hospitals which have been under inordinate pressure despite protestations that they were copin...
by mdd2
Wed Oct 28, 2020 8:40 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: SARS-COV2 could cease to be a pandemic in the near future
Replies: 496
Views: 16148

Re: SARS-COV2 could cease to be a pandemic in the near future

The stats are interesting but I cannot give you the source but am aware of a situation as posted by you Lowbank. Wife/partner has CV19 then husband/partner has a 1 in 3 chance of contracting it Family member in same household 1 in 5 45 minute car drive with someone who is infected-4 in 5. Two situat...
by mdd2
Tue Oct 27, 2020 8:53 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Referee confirmed for Chelsea game
Replies: 8
Views: 753

Re: Referee confirmed for Chelsea game

That is part of standard equipment for a referee, they all use a whistle and are not expected to play with their own.
by mdd2
Tue Oct 27, 2020 8:38 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: SARS-COV2 could cease to be a pandemic in the near future
Replies: 496
Views: 16148

Re: SARS-COV2 could cease to be a pandemic in the near future

Well Combat as a member of both whilst the Government have not been open about a lot of this what has been crystal clear before the lockdown and since has been the three messages of SD hand, washing, isolating if ill and more recently as the evidence has evolved-wear face mask to which I would add P...
by mdd2
Tue Oct 27, 2020 8:06 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: SARS-COV2 could cease to be a pandemic in the near future
Replies: 496
Views: 16148

Re: SARS-COV2 could cease to be a pandemic in the near future

What I am finding increasing frustrating is the distrust the public have in the NHS. Doctors and Nurses are being accused of lying and scaremongering by simply stating the numbers of people in ICU. Nurses and Doctors have no axe to grind and would much rather not be dealing with this virus. 940 heal...
by mdd2
Tue Oct 27, 2020 5:40 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: SARS-COV2 could cease to be a pandemic in the near future
Replies: 496
Views: 16148

Re: SARS-COV2 could cease to be a pandemic in the near future

But havent both those had lockdowns?
by mdd2
Tue Oct 27, 2020 5:37 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: SARS-COV2 could cease to be a pandemic in the near future
Replies: 496
Views: 16148

Re: SARS-COV2 could cease to be a pandemic in the near future

And so we then return to why with no lock down do Sweden have fewer cases? If not population density, population behaviour? And your statement is supported by the similar densities in Stockholm and London but with far fewer cases in Stockholm
by mdd2
Tue Oct 27, 2020 5:27 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: SARS-COV2 could cease to be a pandemic in the near future
Replies: 496
Views: 16148

Re: SARS-COV2 could cease to be a pandemic in the near future

FactualFrank wrote:
Tue Oct 27, 2020 5:21 pm
I see that the cases in Liverpool are now falling. I expect there will be a delay before hospital cases follow suit.
I think it is about two to three weeks and then deaths start to fall too.
If we behave ourselves we could yet have some close contact over Xmas but not for the 12 days!!!!!!
by mdd2
Tue Oct 27, 2020 5:24 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: SARS-COV2 could cease to be a pandemic in the near future
Replies: 496
Views: 16148

Re: SARS-COV2 could cease to be a pandemic in the near future

Big country small population (10 million) and apparently more compliant with advise. Also they have an excellent health care system.That their infection rates of say 2000/day would be 13000 for 65 million that we have over 20,000 and assuming we have the same testing regimes suggest they do things b...
by mdd2
Tue Oct 27, 2020 5:06 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: SARS-COV2 could cease to be a pandemic in the near future
Replies: 496
Views: 16148

Re: SARS-COV2 could cease to be a pandemic in the near future

Sadly not surprising news Inchy is it? Ignore the recommendations and back into the mire we go. Hopefully you will have fewer deaths but the pressure on the NHS is going to be even greater IMO as we are not intending to cut back on other services as much as before. Our ICU is less affected but there...
by mdd2
Tue Oct 27, 2020 5:01 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: SARS-COV2 could cease to be a pandemic in the near future
Replies: 496
Views: 16148

Re: SARS-COV2 could cease to be a pandemic in the near future

And that is reflected in today's figures Combat Something of the order of 350 deaths reported today showing the jump after the weekend but that is about 50% more than last Tuesday.New cases 21,000+ Deaths likely to continue rising until after we see the number of new cases falling, hopefully by the ...
by mdd2
Tue Oct 27, 2020 4:53 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Ben Mee to play tomorrow
Replies: 29
Views: 3415

Re: Ben Mee to play tomorrow

Like a new signing

Well lets hope this new signing of Ben will be better than the "new signing" of Ashley Barnes who is way off the pre-injured striker we had.
by mdd2
Tue Oct 27, 2020 4:49 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: SARS-COV2 could cease to be a pandemic in the near future
Replies: 496
Views: 16148

Re: SARS-COV2 could cease to be a pandemic in the near future

Additionally Combat looking at deaths now and making comparisons with the Spring is also not sensible as more people are surviving due to steroids and less invasive ventilation until much later in the illness, but there will be an as yet hidden cost to those who now survive who six months ago may ha...
by mdd2
Tue Oct 27, 2020 4:44 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: SARS-COV2 could cease to be a pandemic in the near future
Replies: 496
Views: 16148

Re: SARS-COV2 could cease to be a pandemic in the near future

FF just look how there was a bounce back after lock down was eased-sadly with a bounce back in cases. It should be possible to have 1 metre+ contact with mask or 2 metre+ without mask and contain the spread without these restraints of Tier 3 and more, but sadly as a species we find it impossible to ...
by mdd2
Tue Oct 27, 2020 4:28 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: SARS-COV2 could cease to be a pandemic in the near future
Replies: 496
Views: 16148

Re: SARS-COV2 could cease to be a pandemic in the near future

Undersiege the test using a swab looks for virus particles using primers and the sensitivity is around 80% and specificity about 95% but the lower the pre-test probability of a person having the virus the less reliable it becomes. Have a look at this-I think it will surprise you-hope the link works ...
by mdd2
Tue Oct 27, 2020 4:21 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: SARS-COV2 could cease to be a pandemic in the near future
Replies: 496
Views: 16148

Re: SARS-COV2 could cease to be a pandemic in the near future

So can I ask a question of you guys. How is this virus Covid, different from your flu virus we get each year. How is it it’s thought our bodies can maintain immune reactions to Covid when it does not with Flu. Honest questions, that why I am sceptical but that might be because of a lack of knowledg...
by mdd2
Tue Oct 27, 2020 4:08 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: SARS-COV2 could cease to be a pandemic in the near future
Replies: 496
Views: 16148

Re: SARS-COV2 could cease to be a pandemic in the near future

To paraphrase a certain secretary of state we have too much unknown unknowns about this virus. What we do know is 1) the infection spreads by close human contact and can be controlled by controlling human contact and on average an infected person will pass it on to three others 2) the older you are ...
by mdd2
Mon Oct 26, 2020 11:15 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: SARS-COV2 could cease to be a pandemic in the near future
Replies: 496
Views: 16148

Re: SARS-COV2 could cease to be a pandemic in the near future

Undersiege I do not think the test is a problem but the people who are being tested. Times have changed from when a test was used to assist in confirming or refuting a clinical problem. What we know about Covid PCR testing of nasal and throat swabs is the in the context of a sick patient, (so not on...
by mdd2
Mon Oct 26, 2020 11:27 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: SARS-COV2 could cease to be a pandemic in the near future
Replies: 496
Views: 16148

Re: SARS-COV2 could cease to be a pandemic in the near future

Checked and it is a swab for virus particles
by mdd2
Mon Oct 26, 2020 11:25 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: SARS-COV2 could cease to be a pandemic in the near future
Replies: 496
Views: 16148

Re: SARS-COV2 could cease to be a pandemic in the near future

Is that the antibody test or one for present infection?
by mdd2
Mon Oct 26, 2020 9:59 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
Replies: 9110
Views: 608994

Re: ALK Capital...

Well it is a pretty darn good show that you folk put on. To paraphrase a very serious quote from a late politician- there is more that unites us than divides us on here- but it would be nice to avoid attacking the "singer rather than the song" if there are disagreements. Perhaps the thing that irks ...
by mdd2
Mon Oct 26, 2020 8:56 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
Replies: 9110
Views: 608994

Re: ALK Capital...

Is there to be a takeover? Wow that is a bolt from the blue. Anyone have any info on this?
by mdd2
Sun Oct 25, 2020 9:31 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: SARS-COV2 could cease to be a pandemic in the near future
Replies: 496
Views: 16148

Re: SARS-COV2 could cease to be a pandemic in the near future

Hospital admissions across the UK are still rising and now over 1000 Covid cases/day.
The idea that the NHS can do its normal job AND deal with Covid is pie in the sky. The fewer cases of Covid the more the NHS will be able to do its normal jobs
by mdd2
Sun Oct 25, 2020 8:59 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: SARS-COV2 could cease to be a pandemic in the near future
Replies: 496
Views: 16148

Re: SARS-COV2 could cease to be a pandemic in the near future

I am closer to some of that data than Andy in regards to one of those hospitals. ICU is only a small part of this crisis the bigger part comes from those with Covid and other problems who need in patient care but not ICU and whilst Andy was sitting on the fence admissions were going up and up and up...