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- Sun Oct 28, 2018 8:20 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Why aren't we difficult to beat anymore?
- Replies: 38
- Views: 3289
Re: Why aren't we difficult to beat anymore?
Agree again,scouse claret. And your final point about our distinct lack of resilience, that mental toughness that was an integral part of a Sean Dyche team is a very worrying factor. How to get it back is also a concern. It can't just happen,it took months and months of hard work on the training gro...
- Sun Oct 28, 2018 7:48 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: ARTICLE: Once they get two up it’s very difficult
- Replies: 27
- Views: 2526
Re: ARTICLE: Once they get two up it’s very difficult
Going round in circles here. They are a very talented,skilful and horrible bunch of individuals. I agree their new boss has got them playing well(currently 2nd place). Today's outing produced a much different scoreline than last April but as far as we are concerned a sharp fall in intensity from us.
- Sun Oct 28, 2018 7:34 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: ARTICLE: Once they get two up it’s very difficult
- Replies: 27
- Views: 2526
Re: ARTICLE: Once they get two up it’s very difficult
Personnel on both teams. There were enough familiar faces amongst their ranks today that I've seen before at Turf Moor.fidelcastro wrote:No, but Chelsea are a lot better than they were then.
- Sun Oct 28, 2018 7:28 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: ARTICLE: Once they get two up it’s very difficult
- Replies: 27
- Views: 2526
Re: ARTICLE: Once they get two up it’s very difficult
No. Just a realization that until we're taken over by a Billionaire, that we'll struggle to compete with teams such as Chelsea. Who'd have thought? :roll: We competed with them here 6 months ago. No Brady or Defour then. Were the personnel on duty that night so significantly different from today?
- Sun Oct 28, 2018 7:07 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: ARTICLE: Once they get two up it’s very difficult
- Replies: 27
- Views: 2526
Re: ARTICLE: Once they get two up it’s very difficult
There's no doubting a very dis-spirited team on the pitch,possibly as poor as I've seen with Sean Dyche in charge. Are we beginning to see the same affliction affecting the manager? Certainly seems to be an air of resignation in what he has to say.
- Sun Oct 28, 2018 6:35 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Why aren't we difficult to beat anymore?
- Replies: 38
- Views: 3289
Re: Why aren't we difficult to beat anymore?
The team looks flat. That's not about today or last week, although we all know we were far more competitive against the best sides last season that we have been so far this year. For me it stems from the summer. The message that we sent out was "as you were". Ignoring the fact that our relatively s...
- Sun Oct 28, 2018 6:25 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Why aren't we difficult to beat anymore?
- Replies: 38
- Views: 3289
Re: Why aren't we difficult to beat anymore?
We gave them far too much space and showed them too much respect. We looked good for the first 10 mins or so but we were scared to put the ball in the box. Barkley was given the run of the midfield - we'd never have allowed so much space in previous years. The second and third goals were just embar...
- Sun Oct 28, 2018 6:11 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Why aren't we difficult to beat anymore?
- Replies: 38
- Views: 3289
Re: Why aren't we difficult to beat anymore?
Think you need to re-read my post.theroyaldyche wrote:Arent all that?
Willian made a mockery of our defense
- Sun Oct 28, 2018 5:41 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Why aren't we difficult to beat anymore?
- Replies: 38
- Views: 3289
Re: Why aren't we difficult to beat anymore?
[quote="scouseclaret"]Chelsea aren't all that - we made them look good.
And what is it exactly that makes you think 'Chelsea aren't all that'?
And what is it exactly that makes you think 'Chelsea aren't all that'?
- Sun Oct 28, 2018 11:30 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: We will be the first to play with yellow balls
- Replies: 37
- Views: 4505
Re: We will be the first to play with yellow balls
Considering the amount of investment in updating floodlights I think the light would always be at its best.piston broke wrote:Same as tennis and table tennis. So much easier to see when light isn’t at it’s best.
- Sat Oct 27, 2018 11:40 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Smallest Burnley Team
- Replies: 37
- Views: 3006
Re: Smallest Burnley Team
Stuart Robertson, played in the 1970's. The ball always looked too big for him to kick.
- Sat Oct 27, 2018 7:45 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Glenn Hoddle taken ill
- Replies: 25
- Views: 4824
Re: Glenn Hoddle taken ill
Was he already suffering heart problems as he didn’t look very over weight? Last time I saw him on TV he looked very overweight. Very slim and graceful as a player. Had everything needed as a midfielder and a delight to watch. Main criticism.of him as I recall was that he 'didn't defend enough'. He...
- Sat Oct 27, 2018 5:07 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Glenn Hoddle taken ill
- Replies: 25
- Views: 4824
Re: Glenn Hoddle taken ill
A wonderfully,talented,gifted player. Played the game in a different zone to many around him. Hope he gets well soon.
- Fri Oct 26, 2018 3:23 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: ARTICLE: Brady available for Chelsea game
- Replies: 10
- Views: 2296
Re: ARTICLE: Brady available for Chelsea game
and Walters.claretandy wrote:and Ward.
- Fri Oct 26, 2018 11:27 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Chelsea ticket watch - Not sold out
- Replies: 84
- Views: 10143
Re: Chelsea ticket watch - Not sold out
Just wondering how many Chelsea fans travel up from West London. On leaving this fixture over the last few seasons there are usually no more than two or three coaches lined up so I'm assuming that many of their fans on the day have travelled from places nearer to us than London. Just a thought.
- Thu Oct 25, 2018 8:42 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Vokes to sign new deal?
- Replies: 66
- Views: 6515
Re: Vokes to sign new deal?
I suspect this will split opinion. For me, his best days are behind him. Likeable fellow but if this is true then it doesn't say too much about those vying with him for a starting place.
- Thu Oct 25, 2018 7:59 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Watching Burnley and Blackburn
- Replies: 31
- Views: 3320
Re: Watching Burnley and Blackburn
I remember our biology teacher, Bill Slater, from the grammar school told us that he watched both teams. He lived in Accrington, I remember him starting one afternoon lesson by telling us that Burnley had transfer listed Jimmy Mac, he clearly had his priorities right! He was a good bloke. I remembe...
- Thu Oct 25, 2018 7:53 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Increasing the size of the Goal .....
- Replies: 15
- Views: 2137
Re: Increasing the size of the Goal .....
Perhaps reduce the number of players on the pitch by one per team; a greater likelihood of more goals and less congestion in the middle of the pitch.
- Thu Oct 25, 2018 7:49 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Horror Films
- Replies: 25
- Views: 3084
Re: Horror Films
The original Friday 13th - not a big fan of gory horror movies but still think its the best of the 'teens in peril' genre. especially with the shock ending that makes you jump! The Shining is a classic, scary without being too gory. Also enjoyed Woman in Black with Daniel Radcliffe and John Carpent...
- Thu Oct 25, 2018 6:31 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Watching Burnley and Blackburn
- Replies: 31
- Views: 3320
Re: Watching Burnley and Blackburn
I was at Everton watching Arthur Bellamys hat trick ( if I am thinking of the right game ) Think Everton had been unbeaten at home for a gazillion years prior to our win. The local thugs didnt take the defeat very well. Early September 1963 and I believe Everton were undefeated at home for around t...
- Thu Oct 25, 2018 12:54 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Watching Burnley and Blackburn
- Replies: 31
- Views: 3320
Re: Watching Burnley and Blackburn
Went to Ewood Park on many occasions in the 60's. Always hoping,of course, that the opposition would win. One game in particular stands out; in 1963 they beat Spurs 7-2 on the same day we won at Everton 4-3. At the end of the same season we also beat Spurs 7-2 at Turf Moor.
- Wed Oct 24, 2018 5:01 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: ARTICLE: Great debut for Irish teenager
- Replies: 16
- Views: 2718
Re: ARTICLE: Great debut for Irish teenager
Cheers for that,CT. Not a bad forward line that Chelsea had(well, anything with Jimmy Greaves in it had to be). Can still picture myself with my dad in that area in the Open end high up towards the Longside. Mike Harrison joined our neighbours down the road,I think. 11 goals conceded that week.
- Wed Oct 24, 2018 2:43 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Referee confirmed for Chelsea game
- Replies: 20
- Views: 2252
Re: Referee confirmed for Chelsea game
'so they guess'
As a poster further up the thread intimated it's a relief they're not dealing with anything life threatening.
As a poster further up the thread intimated it's a relief they're not dealing with anything life threatening.
- Wed Oct 24, 2018 12:50 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: ARTICLE: Great debut for Irish teenager
- Replies: 16
- Views: 2718
Re: ARTICLE: Great debut for Irish teenager
I got my first ST for the 61-62 season so managed to get to Wembley and then off to Uni and all the things young adults do thereafter, working away marriage, children until 1987-88 season when after the reality of almost losing my team I got my second ST plus 3 for the boys and I have had one ever ...
- Wed Oct 24, 2018 11:26 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: ARTICLE: Lancashire FA honour Brian Pilkington with naming of stand
- Replies: 8
- Views: 1074
Re: ARTICLE: Lancashire FA honour Brian Pilkington with naming of stand
His last goal was actually in the League Cup at Southampton Thanks for the correction,CT. I'd forgotten that there was the best part of two months between the two legs(18 the Jan/15th March). Watched the 2nd half of the first leg live on the TV. Think I was probably watching Sportsview where they h...
- Wed Oct 24, 2018 11:00 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Referee confirmed for Chelsea game
- Replies: 20
- Views: 2252
Re: Referee confirmed for Chelsea game
The ball being out of play was impossible for him. Even the post obstructed his view, he would have needed to be beyond the goalline to see it was out. The offside he should have been alive for. A very simple decision. That seems to suggest that the linesman couldn't ever see if a ball was out of p...
- Wed Oct 24, 2018 10:56 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: ARTICLE: Lancashire FA honour Brian Pilkington with naming of stand
- Replies: 8
- Views: 1074
Re: ARTICLE: Lancashire FA honour Brian Pilkington with naming of stand
His last goal for us would have been v Hamburg in the 3-1 win at home. Considering the state of the pitch that night that was a remarkable goal to score . Just getting it out of the mud was a victory in itself.
- Tue Oct 23, 2018 7:55 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Referee confirmed for Chelsea game
- Replies: 20
- Views: 2252
Re: Referee confirmed for Chelsea game
The most important position on the field is that of goalkeeper because no one else can fill that role. However, the most important person on the field is the referee because a meaningful game cannot go ahead without one. Unfortunately, it's not a secret anymore.
- Tue Oct 23, 2018 5:49 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: January transfer window
- Replies: 119
- Views: 10727
Re: January transfer window
Desperately short of someone like Barton in midfield. You can have all the 'passers' you want in there but they need the ball to do it. He could play a bit too but knew when he had to bring out 'the dark side'. As aggressive a midfielder as I've seen playing for us and the type of player that kept s...
- Tue Oct 23, 2018 4:45 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: ARTICLE: Great debut for Irish teenager
- Replies: 16
- Views: 2718
Re: ARTICLE: Great debut for Irish teenager
Saw 6 of those play. Reserve games had a good following in those days and that attendance was not unusual. I think we got over 12000 for some games in the late 50's early 60's Such was the talent on show that I would travel regularly to watch a reserve team game along with my dad and brother. We li...
- Tue Oct 23, 2018 2:53 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Chelsea ticket watch - Not sold out
- Replies: 84
- Views: 10143
Re: Chelsea ticket watch - Not sold out
A huge gap getting bigger all the time. Never thought I'd see or admit to the emergence of a European league but I think that that is the inevitable outcome.Quickenthetempo wrote:Would you say there's a bigger gap between Burnley and City now than say Burnley and Liverpool in the 90s when we drew 0-0 at the Turf?
- Tue Oct 23, 2018 2:46 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Referee confirmed for Chelsea game
- Replies: 20
- Views: 2252
Re: Referee confirmed for Chelsea game
Is this a confirmation of the increasing shortage of referees available? It is something I've touched on before but 'grass roots' football has an appalling drop out rate of referees(totally understandable if you care to take in a game over any weekend) so incompetents like Moss continue to blunder t...
- Mon Oct 22, 2018 11:14 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: The match day experience yesterday
- Replies: 23
- Views: 3354
Re: The match day experience yesterday
Remember when their celeb fan was Eddie Large? They've even revamped their hangers-on. I was at secondary school in Salford between 1963-1970 and cannot recall anyone who claimed to be a City fan. The only exception was a lad called Ged Keegan,about 3 years below me who was 'on their books' as a sc...
- Sun Oct 21, 2018 8:15 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Nine matches in - what do you think so far?
- Replies: 91
- Views: 7261
Re: Nine matches in - what do you think so far?
I don't consider myself to be a 'happy clapper' or whatever cheap insult is thrown at anyone who expresses a degree of positivity but am I the only person fed-up with the 'I told you so' smugness of a vocal minority on here who seem to revel in every defeat so that they can tell us they know best a...
- Sun Oct 21, 2018 8:08 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: REPORT: City back in Moss Side
- Replies: 34
- Views: 3187
Re: REPORT: City back in Moss Side
Got that sorted then and narrowing down those gloaters at the same time. What a result!ClaretTony wrote:I thought Silkyskills quoted ashington because he was actually agreeing with him
- Sun Oct 21, 2018 7:30 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: REPORT: City back in Moss Side
- Replies: 34
- Views: 3187
Re: REPORT: City back in Moss Side
I don't think that's fair on Ashington. I've only seen half an hour of highlights but of the key decisions shown only three can be considered definitely wrong. 1. The second goal was offside. 2. The second goal, the ball was out of play. 3. The second goal, the Burnley defence in not playing to the...
- Sun Oct 21, 2018 6:27 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: REPORT: City back in Moss Side
- Replies: 34
- Views: 3187
Re: REPORT: City back in Moss Side
True --but he didn't and it is all now consigned to history with some Burnley fans moaning because the manager criticised the lack of decisions. At 0-1 down anything was possible but that gift just changed the game, although we were guilty of bad defending because the whistle didn't go! Sadly, some...
- Sun Oct 21, 2018 4:33 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Nine matches in - what do you think so far?
- Replies: 91
- Views: 7261
Re: Nine matches in - what do you think so far?
In terms of points on the board and league position, we're doing what I expected at this stage. In terms of entertainment and quality of football, it's been very disappointing so far. I can't quite place it, but it just 'feels' like something isn't quite right at the club at the moment. Possibly a ...
- Sun Oct 21, 2018 4:08 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: ARTICLE: The will of the team was good
- Replies: 57
- Views: 5099
Re: ARTICLE: The will of the team was good
If we do stop up this season and thats a big if at the moment then games away at the likes of man city next season will see fewer people going as the novelty wears off and expect another hammering - its like watching a city training game from attack to our defense Exactly. The gap is wider than eve...
- Sun Oct 21, 2018 3:51 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: ARTICLE: The will of the team was good
- Replies: 57
- Views: 5099
Re: ARTICLE: The will of the team was good
Hmm, if only it were so easy to just switch allegiances like that. I wonder how many supporters would continue to watch us if it was just a simple choice between wanting to see the best football. My guess is not many. An old-fashioned word is allegiance. There has never been so much choice availabl...
- Sun Oct 21, 2018 3:31 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Hart
- Replies: 54
- Views: 5830
Re: Hart
Like I said,fair enough. Your memory is much better than mine and a decent sense of humour to go with it.joey13 wrote:F@@k off
Made a decent save towards the end of the Southampton game
- Sun Oct 21, 2018 3:26 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Nine matches in - what do you think so far?
- Replies: 91
- Views: 7261
Re: Nine matches in - what do you think so far?
Thought we played well in the opening game v Southampton and was cautiously optimistic. Since then it has been disappointing, none more so than the questionable approach employed at home to the league's bottom club.
- Sun Oct 21, 2018 3:14 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Hart
- Replies: 54
- Views: 5830
Re: Hart
Cardiff, Southampton, that’s 4 points Cardiff saw an excellent save in the first half and a pretty standard one after the interval. Watched all of the Southampton game on TV where we dominated for a good hour of the game. If he kept us in it in the other half hour then fair enough but I can't recal...
- Sun Oct 21, 2018 2:57 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: 2nd Goal
- Replies: 79
- Views: 7425
Re: 2nd Goal
If memory serves me right didn't City score a winning goal at Turf Moor a few seasons back in similar circumstances. Trying hard to recall the exact details but it was down at the Cricket Field End and we hesitated over something we shouldn't have and they pulled the ball back from the bye-line for ...
- Sun Oct 21, 2018 2:44 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Hart
- Replies: 54
- Views: 5830
Re: Hart
As far as I can see Hart has been our best player so far this season and has kept us in games if not won a few points this season. He's made some good saves but I would expect that from a goalkeeper with his pedigree. Despite only playing nine games I can't think where he has won us any points, the...
- Sat Oct 20, 2018 8:31 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Chelsea ticket watch - Not sold out
- Replies: 84
- Views: 10143
Re: Chelsea ticket watch - Sold out
Totally agree. Another rant meant to make a point but misses it's mark. Not the worst offender, though.EarbyClaret wrote:
Just getting a bit tired of the ill thought out throwaway comments that seem to derail every reasonable discussion about where we are at and what the short/medium term future holds.
- Sat Oct 20, 2018 5:14 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: On the plus side..
- Replies: 37
- Views: 5150
Re: On the plus side..
Can't see any positives from a 5-0 defeat. I've seen plenty over many years of watching Burnley in divisions below this and against far worse teams. Just lick their wounds,I suppose and prepare properly for the next fixture. Not the best of days by any stretch of the imagination.
- Sat Oct 20, 2018 11:35 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Come on Leeds
- Replies: 41
- Views: 3401
Re: Come on Leeds
It's a bit like Man Utd. fans watching the Liverpool v City game a couple of weeks ago. 0-0 is about as good as it can get but the added bonus of a missed penalty in the last minute by either side would be worth seeing.
- Fri Oct 19, 2018 7:30 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Kendal's Of Deansgate To Shut
- Replies: 24
- Views: 3856
Re: Kendal's Of Deansgate To Shut
Very expensive place to shop when I was working in Manchester. Hasn't got the status it used to have with the likes of Selfridge's there now.
- Fri Oct 19, 2018 7:06 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Chelsea ticket watch - Not sold out
- Replies: 84
- Views: 10143
Re: Chelsea ticket watch
Was it you, Leisure?Leisure wrote:C'mon, who's going to buy the last ticket?