Man Utd and Spurs on for Pope

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Man Utd and Spurs on for Pope

Post by gtclaret » Sun Mar 14, 2021 8:50 am

I don't know how to link, just seen this on the Internet gossip, if we lose Pope and Tarky we will have some rebuilding to do

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Re: Man Utd and Spurs on for Pope

Post by BleedingClaret » Sun Mar 14, 2021 9:03 am

50m plus for Pope of F off

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Re: Man Utd and Spurs on for Pope

Post by LawsCanalJump » Sun Mar 14, 2021 9:03 am

Good job we will get £75 million from both then!

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Re: Man Utd and Spurs on for Pope

Post by taio » Sun Mar 14, 2021 9:04 am

Sunday Sport?

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Re: Man Utd and Spurs on for Pope

Post by claretandy » Sun Mar 14, 2021 9:14 am

It's in the Daily Star, Utd and Spurs interested, bidding war could send it above £50M.

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Re: Man Utd and Spurs on for Pope

Post by tim_noone » Sun Mar 14, 2021 9:21 am

He made a great and crucial save in the first couple of minutes yesterday ....early game Changer .

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Re: Man Utd and Spurs on for Pope

Post by MrTopTier » Sun Mar 14, 2021 9:25 am

Inevitable sadly and probably Tarkowski as well.

Get Heaton and Gibson back , make a massive profit and reinvest in the rest of the team.

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Re: Man Utd and Spurs on for Pope

Post by elwaclaret » Sun Mar 14, 2021 9:31 am

I’d be very surprised if Tom Heaton came back to Burnley as first choice keeper. Nor do I think it would necessarily be a good thing for him or the club if he did. Much as I love Tom think if we see him at Burnley it would be as a back up come coach role.
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Re: Man Utd and Spurs on for Pope

Post by ClaretLoup » Sun Mar 14, 2021 9:43 am

Indeed Heaton will be 35 in April and therefore 37 at the end of his four year deal which reputedly was worth £100k per week. Heaton was brilliant for Burnley while he was at Turf Moor however I think it's fairly obvious why he moved as well as why he won't be moving back and it will be interesting to see if he starts to highlight his lack of first team opportunities if he stays second choice keeper at Villa as he did when at Burnley.

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Re: Man Utd and Spurs on for Pope

Post by MrTopTier » Sun Mar 14, 2021 9:44 am

elwaclaret wrote:
Sun Mar 14, 2021 9:31 am
I’d be very surprised if Tom Heaton came back to Burnley as first choice keeper. Nor do I think it would necessarily be a good thing for him or the club if he did. Much as I love Tom think if we see him at Burnley it would be as a back up come coach role.
I’d be surprised too, however we have two young keepers in Peacock-Farrell and Norris who are still developing, it would make sense for an experienced keeper to be on the books either as a back up or as a no1. The reality is we are not going to have huge sums to play with, so a returning crowd favourite is decent PR as well.

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Re: Man Utd and Spurs on for Pope

Post by arise_sir_charge » Sun Mar 14, 2021 9:45 am

If we lose Pope I’d go after the keeper at West Brom, I think he suits us.
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Re: Man Utd and Spurs on for Pope

Post by Sproggy » Sun Mar 14, 2021 9:48 am

If we lose Pope, BPF steps up and we reinvest in other areas.
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Re: Man Utd and Spurs on for Pope

Post by elwaclaret » Sun Mar 14, 2021 9:54 am

Sproggy wrote:
Sun Mar 14, 2021 9:48 am
If we lose Pope, BPF steps up and we reinvest in other areas.
My thoughts too.
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Re: Man Utd and Spurs on for Pope

Post by Zom Zom » Sun Mar 14, 2021 9:57 am

I'm more concerned about the lack of strength in depth at centre back which will be left cavernous if suitable replacements do not arrive in the wake of Tarky's predicted departure.

That said the backbone of the squad needs new blood throughout. If those two leave in the summer, I would love to see 4 or 5 arrive to push us on with the position of GK not prioritised above the others.

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Re: Man Utd and Spurs on for Pope

Post by Down_Rover » Sun Mar 14, 2021 9:58 am

Why would manure buy Pope when they have Henderson?

Part ex Henderson plus £30m?

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Re: Man Utd and Spurs on for Pope

Post by Billyblah » Sun Mar 14, 2021 10:02 am

I'd go for Peacock Farrell. He's an NI international and that despite limited first team appearances. Heaton has had his time and in recent years has been troubled by injury.
The club needs to spend significantly in the summer. It's looking like we have 'got away' with lack of recent on the field investment.
The next transfer window will be crucial in bringing in relatively young talent that can hold its own in the Premiership, grow with the club and then sell on at profit.
This is the way that Burnley has operated during successful times.
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Re: Man Utd and Spurs on for Pope

Post by KRBFC » Sun Mar 14, 2021 10:02 am

Down_Rover wrote:
Sun Mar 14, 2021 9:58 am
Why would manure buy Pope when they have Henderson?

Part ex Henderson plus £30m?
Jones Lingard and Henderson for Pope.
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Re: Man Utd and Spurs on for Pope

Post by NewClaret » Sun Mar 14, 2021 10:42 am

ClaretLoup wrote:
Sun Mar 14, 2021 9:43 am
Indeed Heaton will be 35 in April and therefore 37 at the end of his four year deal which reputedly was worth £100k per week. Heaton was brilliant for Burnley while he was at Turf Moor however I think it's fairly obvious why he moved as well as why he won't be moving back and it will be interesting to see if he starts to highlight his lack of first team opportunities if he stays second choice keeper at Villa as he did when at Burnley.
£42k pw, which, believe it or not, was the/one of Villa’s top earners prior to Grealish’s new deal, Barkley, Traore, Cash & Mings signing.

https://www.spotrac.com/epl/aston-villa-fc/payroll/

Can’t see him returning though and nor would I want him to at his age/salary.

No way United are in for Pope and can’t see Spurs being able to afford big signings with £175m BoE loan to repay.

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Re: Man Utd and Spurs on for Pope

Post by MT03ALG » Sun Mar 14, 2021 10:47 am

Get them to bid against each other - £50 million as a starting point.

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Re: Man Utd and Spurs on for Pope

Post by Darthlaw » Sun Mar 14, 2021 10:55 am

Down_Rover wrote:
Sun Mar 14, 2021 9:58 am
Why would manure buy Pope when they have Henderson?

Part ex Henderson plus £30m?
They won’t be interested, but it’ll generate plenty of clicks.

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Re: Man Utd and Spurs on for Pope

Post by Socrates » Sun Mar 14, 2021 11:36 am

KRBFC wrote:
Sun Mar 14, 2021 10:02 am
Jones Lingard and Henderson for Pope.
That’s about £18-£20 million a year in wages on those three.

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Re: Man Utd and Spurs on for Pope

Post by claretandy » Sun Mar 14, 2021 12:39 pm

Down_Rover wrote:
Sun Mar 14, 2021 9:58 am
Why would manure buy Pope when they have Henderson?

Part ex Henderson plus £30m?
They have doubts about Henderson being first choice at 22.

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Re: Man Utd and Spurs on for Pope

Post by Chester Perry » Sun Mar 14, 2021 12:59 pm

Socrates wrote:
Sun Mar 14, 2021 11:36 am
That’s about £18-£20 million a year in wages on those three.
indeed just the £16m - £18m uplift on a wage bill (if you minus Pope's wages) when revenues have dropped significantly more than that

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Re: Man Utd and Spurs on for Pope

Post by NottsClaret » Sun Mar 14, 2021 1:01 pm

arise_sir_charge wrote:
Sun Mar 14, 2021 9:45 am
If we lose Pope I’d go after the keeper at West Brom, I think he suits us.
Is that Johnston? I agree, he’s looked really impressive although not seen him too many times.

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Re: Man Utd and Spurs on for Pope

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Sun Mar 14, 2021 1:03 pm

That lad at Fulham looks good.

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Re: Man Utd and Spurs on for Pope

Post by RalphCoatesComb » Sun Mar 14, 2021 1:21 pm

MrTopTier wrote:
Sun Mar 14, 2021 9:25 am
Get Heaton and Gibson back.
Gibson? Really?? :o

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Re: Man Utd and Spurs on for Pope

Post by arise_sir_charge » Sun Mar 14, 2021 1:23 pm

NottsClaret wrote:
Sun Mar 14, 2021 1:01 pm
Is that Johnston? I agree, he’s looked really impressive although not seen him too many times.
Yes that’s him, always looks good to me and he’s no frills. Working with Mercer I think he’d be great for us.

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Re: Man Utd and Spurs on for Pope

Post by tarkys_ears » Sun Mar 14, 2021 1:26 pm

Utd... clearly want Henderson starting so they've told De Gea to take as much time as he likes off for his baby.

Not sure how Pope fits in though, clearly he's better than Henderson but aren't they trying to make him their starter?

As for us, BPF isn't the answer.

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Re: Man Utd and Spurs on for Pope

Post by KefkaClaret » Sun Mar 14, 2021 1:31 pm

If Pope goes I hope we can get a keeper with the same aerial presence he has.
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Re: Man Utd and Spurs on for Pope

Post by AlargeClaret » Sun Mar 14, 2021 1:49 pm

Pope’s worth 20m ish and Tarky 30 though I think Pope will stay and guarantee the No1 .If both go we re-invest , keepers are ten a penny and I’ve liked the look of BPF thus far . I doubt we’ll see huge changes it’s not the Dyche way but we all know we’re urgently short on the right side and desperate for a couple of high quality players to boost our game but aging journeymen

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Re: Man Utd and Spurs on for Pope

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Sun Mar 14, 2021 1:56 pm

Pope is worth more than £20 million ish.

2 years left on his deal with the option of a 3rd I think it is.
That coupled with his performances and being a regular in the England squad pushes him closer to £40 million, especially with these new immigration laws for sports people.

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Re: Man Utd and Spurs on for Pope

Post by Socrates » Sun Mar 14, 2021 2:32 pm

£20 million for Pope?

So ..... just a bit more than Sheff United paid for Ramsdale?

Not sure about that.

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Re: Man Utd and Spurs on for Pope

Post by KRBFC » Sun Mar 14, 2021 5:00 pm

Socrates wrote:
Sun Mar 14, 2021 11:36 am
That’s about £18-£20 million a year in wages on those three.
Doubt it and even then, we did strip Lennon, Hart and a few others off recently. We'd obviously lose Pope's wage too. Not that I think Lingard would come here anyway, that ship has now sailed after his great spell at West Ham.

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Re: Man Utd and Spurs on for Pope

Post by mikeS » Sun Mar 14, 2021 6:27 pm

BBC red button News have the story

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Re: Man Utd and Spurs on for Pope

Post by Papabendi » Sun Mar 14, 2021 6:31 pm

Can see us going back for Heaton if it happens

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Re: Man Utd and Spurs on for Pope

Post by boatshed bill » Sun Mar 14, 2021 6:37 pm

tarkys_ears wrote:
Sun Mar 14, 2021 1:26 pm


As for us, BPF isn't the answer.
Why do you say this?

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Re: Man Utd and Spurs on for Pope

Post by tarkys_ears » Sun Mar 14, 2021 6:44 pm

boatshed bill wrote:
Sun Mar 14, 2021 6:37 pm
Why do you say this?
Because we're an established Premier League team, not some League One outfit.

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Re: Man Utd and Spurs on for Pope

Post by boatshed bill » Sun Mar 14, 2021 6:46 pm

tarkys_ears wrote:
Sun Mar 14, 2021 6:44 pm
Because we're an established Premier League team, not some League One outfit.
Nick Pope was in a side relegated to L1 when we signed him, hasn't done too badly.
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Re: Man Utd and Spurs on for Pope

Post by Woodleyclaret » Sun Mar 14, 2021 7:03 pm

£50 m for Pope what did the flop at Chelsea cost £75m and he wasn't an England international then get Johnson from WBA

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Re: Man Utd and Spurs on for Pope

Post by Clarets4me » Sun Mar 14, 2021 7:30 pm

For all the talk of Pope going and Heaton coming back, the one person we need to retain in all this is Billy Mercer !
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Re: Man Utd and Spurs on for Pope

Post by Bosscat » Sun Mar 14, 2021 7:34 pm

If we can't keep Pope ... then give young Bailley Peacock-Farrell a chance ... he deserves it and with Billy Mercer coaching 👍😎👍 he could just be what the doctor ordered plus we get to spend on areas we need to 😁

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Re: Man Utd and Spurs on for Pope

Post by boatshed bill » Sun Mar 14, 2021 7:38 pm

TBH I can't imagine our new board turning down any decent offers for our players.

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Re: Man Utd and Spurs on for Pope

Post by superdimitri » Sun Mar 14, 2021 7:40 pm

Good news for us, can get much more moolah if bigger clubs are interested in our players rather than the likes of Leicester and West Ham.

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Re: Man Utd and Spurs on for Pope

Post by Bigvince » Sun Mar 14, 2021 7:50 pm

tarkys_ears wrote:
Sun Mar 14, 2021 6:44 pm
Because we're an established Premier League team, not some League One outfit.
Why do you think Sean Dyche signed BPF ? He signed him to eventually replace Nick Pope, the same reason we signed Nick Pope to eventually replace Tom Heaton!

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Re: Man Utd and Spurs on for Pope

Post by DAVETHEVICAR » Sun Mar 14, 2021 7:50 pm

United won’t be interested in Pope when they have Henderson who kept Sheffield United up last season and was outstanding
Think Nick Pope is a superb goalkeeper but I also think Hende will be the England keeper for years to come
All rubbish Paper Talk anyway

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Re: Man Utd and Spurs on for Pope

Post by Bosscat » Sun Mar 14, 2021 8:03 pm

tarkys_ears wrote:
Sun Mar 14, 2021 6:44 pm
Because we're an established Premier League team, not some League One outfit.
Sometimes t_e you do talk some tosh... where do you think Heats (relegated with Bristol City after having 5 put past him by the Clarets) and Popey (relegated with Charlton after having 5 put past him by the Clarets)
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Re: Man Utd and Spurs on for Pope

Post by elwaclaret » Sun Mar 14, 2021 8:08 pm

boatshed bill wrote:
Sun Mar 14, 2021 7:38 pm
TBH I can't imagine our new board turning down any decent offers for our players.
I think the fact that the board are suddenly quietly going about their business tells me the board are very serious about their plan for BFC. I don’t think they will be falling over themselves either to buy or sell anyone until we get some stabilisation to the outside world. They have come in and are putting things together for the future, but I doubt very much they are going to throw money around until the market can settle to its new level, prices and wages are about to plummet... China, and major European clubs are already on their arses and trying to offload players.
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Re: Man Utd and Spurs on for Pope

Post by fatboy47 » Sun Mar 14, 2021 8:10 pm

elwaclaret wrote:
Sun Mar 14, 2021 8:08 pm
I think the fact that the board are suddenly quietly going about their business tells me the board are very serious about their plan for BFC. I don’t think they will be falling over themselves either to buy or sell anyone until we get some stabilisation to the outside world. They have come in and are putting things together for the future, but I doubt very much they are going to throw money around until the market can settle to its new level, prices and wages are about to plummet... China, and major European clubs are already on their arses and trying to offload players.
Are you from the new Expectation Management team??

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Re: Man Utd and Spurs on for Pope

Post by elwaclaret » Sun Mar 14, 2021 9:22 pm

fatboy47 wrote:
Sun Mar 14, 2021 8:10 pm
Are you from the new Expectation Management team??
No looking at it logically as to what would be most in everyone’s interest. Buying in an unstable market only adds to high risk. I’d expect any decent business to manage risk, mitigate any loses etc. Pretty basic stuff... any business making multi-million pound gambols are nervy at the moment, and I don’t see why our businessmen would be any different.

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Re: Man Utd and Spurs on for Pope

Post by boatshed bill » Sun Mar 14, 2021 9:52 pm

elwaclaret wrote:
Sun Mar 14, 2021 9:22 pm
No looking at it logically as to what would be most in everyone’s interest. Buying in an unstable market only adds to high risk. I’d expect any decent business to manage risk, mitigate any loses etc. Pretty basic stuff... any business making multi-million pound gambols are nervy at the moment, and I don’t see why our businessmen would be any different.
I think differently ;)

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