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Re: Arthur Gomes

Post by Belgianclaret » Mon Aug 09, 2021 9:24 am

Not another Fernando Guerrero I hope :o

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Re: Arthur Gomes

Post by wilks_bfc » Mon Aug 09, 2021 9:27 am

joey13 wrote:
Mon Aug 09, 2021 8:56 am
Another day and another new dig at fellow supporters.
What’s the difference between fans apparently whinging about other supporters and supporters apparently whinging about the club?

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Re: Arthur Gomes

Post by KRBFC » Mon Aug 09, 2021 9:27 am

Gordaleman wrote:
Mon Aug 09, 2021 9:20 am



Someone said earlier that he wasn't a Dyche type player (Because he wasn't British or Irish.) but I'm not sure that's necessarily correct. Maybe it was just the previous board that thought that way? After all Gomez is the third foreign player we've been firmly linked with in this window, after Lookman and Cornet.
Lookman was born in London, how is he not British?

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Re: Arthur Gomes

Post by leightonjameslegend » Mon Aug 09, 2021 9:27 am

It's an exciting signing if it comes off. Yes, he hasn't reached his potential, but by all accounts, the potential is there. He is still young enough to get better and with the fee so low is a calculated risk.

What is even more impressive is the scope of the players we are being linked with and trying to sign. Something has changed for the better and gives us promise for the future.

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Re: Arthur Gomes

Post by BurnleyFC » Mon Aug 09, 2021 9:28 am

Gordaleman wrote:
Mon Aug 09, 2021 9:20 am
Said to have been released from his loan at Athletic Goianiense but still showing as a squad member on their official site.

https://atleticogoianiense.com.br/profi ... gomes.html

Of course, it's very early Monday morning in Brazil and the site may not have been updated as yet.

Interesting one this.


Someone said earlier that he wasn't a Dyche type player (Because he wasn't British or Irish.) but I'm not sure that's necessarily correct. Maybe it was just the previous board that thought that way? After all Gomez is the third foreign player we've been firmly linked with in this window, after Lookman and Cornet.
Lookman is English, from London. Probably why he’s looking for another London based club in preference to us.

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Re: Arthur Gomes

Post by KRBFC » Mon Aug 09, 2021 9:29 am

Imagine sat there whining on a forum about other people whining, some people genuinely cannot handle the internet.

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Re: Arthur Gomes

Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Mon Aug 09, 2021 9:30 am

wilks_bfc wrote:
Mon Aug 09, 2021 9:27 am
What’s the difference between fans apparently whinging about other supporters and supporters apparently whinging about the club?
Spot on but sadly those who do little but criticise everything about the club get very upset when they receive some criticism themselves.

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Re: Arthur Gomes

Post by KRBFC » Mon Aug 09, 2021 9:32 am

claretonthecoast1882 wrote:
Mon Aug 09, 2021 9:30 am
Spot on but sadly those who do little but criticise everything about the club get very upset when they receive some criticism themselves.
How are you so emotionally invested into what people on here say? It's the internet, people have different opinions, don't let it take over your life.

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Re: Arthur Gomes

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Mon Aug 09, 2021 9:33 am

Gordaleman wrote:
Mon Aug 09, 2021 9:20 am
Said to have been released from his loan at Athletic Goianiense but still showing as a squad member on their official site.

https://atleticogoianiense.com.br/profi ... gomes.html

Of course, it's very early Monday morning in Brazil and the site may not have been updated as yet.

Interesting one this.


Someone said earlier that he wasn't a Dyche type player (Because he wasn't British or Irish.) but I'm not sure that's necessarily correct. Maybe it was just the previous board that thought that way? After all Gomez is the third foreign player we've been firmly linked with in this window, after Lookman and Cornet.
From what I saw on YouTube he very much looks like a Dyche type player. He was pressing defenders and tackling in the final third.

I like the look of him.

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Re: Arthur Gomes

Post by Quickenthetempo » Mon Aug 09, 2021 9:37 am

BurnleyFC wrote:
Mon Aug 09, 2021 9:28 am
Lookman is English, from London. Probably why he’s looking for another London based club in preference to us.
He was supposed to be homesick at Everton.

A lot of their fans couldn't understand why he didn't get more of a chance as he seemed to do well in his limited appearances.

You would hope his stint abroad would have helped him with it, but it is a risk when you sign young lads.

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Re: Arthur Gomes

Post by NewClaret » Mon Aug 09, 2021 10:04 am

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Mon Aug 09, 2021 9:33 am
From what I saw on YouTube he very much looks like a Dyche type player. He was pressing defenders and tackling in the final third.

I like the look of him.
I noticed that, good closing down & got tackles in.

By the sounds of it, not had his career all his own way, which is maybe a good thing for us - hopefully gives him some motivation to come good in the Prem.

Either way, he can certainly carry a ball at pace and that is something we massively lack. ASM is inconsistent and often anonymous in games, but look at how he destroyed us in a few minutes. We need options like that so for £2m or so this looks like a no risk piece of business to me.

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Re: Arthur Gomes

Post by claret2018 » Mon Aug 09, 2021 10:14 am

I see in the news that the British Army are on standby to deliver food to shops due to the shortage of lorry drivers.

I wonder how far off we are from requesting an Army officer to play on the wing.
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Re: Arthur Gomes

Post by Local cricketer » Mon Aug 09, 2021 10:16 am

Boden been told not to get excited by the link. Expect him to have signed be tea time then

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Re: Arthur Gomes

Post by ClaretAndJew » Mon Aug 09, 2021 10:18 am

claret2018 wrote:
Mon Aug 09, 2021 10:14 am
I see in the news that the British Army are on standby to deliver food to shops due to the shortage of lorry drivers.

I wonder how far off we are from requesting an Army officer to play on the wing.
I was born in Blyth, but I was made on the right wing at Turf Moor.
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Re: Arthur Gomes

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Mon Aug 09, 2021 10:20 am

BBC reporter saying the same. Don’t get excited it’s a big change from the usual type signing

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Re: Arthur Gomes

Post by NewClaret » Mon Aug 09, 2021 10:23 am

“Don’t get excited”… are the club wanting us to remain frustrated for the whole transfer window?!?!?

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Re: Arthur Gomes

Post by randomclaret2 » Mon Aug 09, 2021 10:26 am

" Dont get excited " could be the club's new slogan
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Re: Arthur Gomes

Post by martin_p » Mon Aug 09, 2021 10:27 am

Local cricketer wrote:
Mon Aug 09, 2021 10:16 am
Boden been told not to get excited by the link. Expect him to have signed be tea time then
It’s an odd thing to say, normally it’s ‘there’s nothing in it’ but this isn’t that sort of flat denial.

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Re: Arthur Gomes

Post by Colburn_Claret » Mon Aug 09, 2021 10:28 am

Hard to believe there are 6 pages on a player no-one hase heard of, and probably won't sign on anyway.
Don't panic Mr. Mainwaring........

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Re: Arthur Gomes

Post by agreenwood » Mon Aug 09, 2021 10:28 am

randomclaret2 wrote:
Mon Aug 09, 2021 10:26 am
" Dont get excited " could be the club's new slogan
The best post on this thread by a country mile.

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Re: Arthur Gomes

Post by CnBtruntru » Mon Aug 09, 2021 10:29 am

claret2018 wrote:
Mon Aug 09, 2021 10:14 am
I see in the news that the British Army are on standby to deliver food to shops due to the shortage of lorry drivers.

I wonder how far off we are from requesting an Army officer to play on the wing.
Surely we would be talking to the RAF, Wing Commander! ;)

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Re: Arthur Gomes

Post by box_of_frogs » Mon Aug 09, 2021 10:32 am

CnBtruntru wrote:
Mon Aug 09, 2021 10:29 am
Surely we would be talking to the RAF, Wing Commander! ;)
Absolutely. Army officers do not play football. That is for the other ranks! No such snobbery in the RAF.

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Re: Arthur Gomes

Post by Rileybobs » Mon Aug 09, 2021 10:38 am

NewClaret wrote:
Mon Aug 09, 2021 10:04 am
Either way, he can certainly carry a ball at pace and that is something we massively lack. ASM is inconsistent and often anonymous in games, but look at how he destroyed us in a few minutes. We need options like that so for £2m or so this looks like a no risk piece of business to me.
Crazy that you can come to the conclusion that this would be a no risk piece of business based on nothing more than a YouTube clip. It’s like these extortionate figures mean nothing to football fans.
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Re: Arthur Gomes

Post by NewClaret » Mon Aug 09, 2021 10:43 am

Rileybobs wrote:
Mon Aug 09, 2021 10:38 am
Crazy that you can come to the conclusion that this would be a no risk piece of business based on nothing more than a YouTube clip. It’s like these extortionate figures mean nothing to football fans.
It’s about 1.5% of revenue, so it’s all relative.

Huge sum for a Championship club, less so for a Premiership club. About as low risk as we’ll get if we’re looking at recruiting professional footballers (vs. youngsters).

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Re: Arthur Gomes

Post by Hipper » Mon Aug 09, 2021 10:45 am

box_of_frogs wrote:
Mon Aug 09, 2021 10:32 am
Absolutely. Army officers do not play football. That is for the other ranks! No such snobbery in the RAF.
We did have a Marshall playing for us:

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Re: Arthur Gomes

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Mon Aug 09, 2021 10:45 am

Rileybobs wrote:
Mon Aug 09, 2021 10:38 am
Crazy that you can come to the conclusion that this would be a no risk piece of business based on nothing more than a YouTube clip. It’s like these extortionate figures mean nothing to football fans.
A signing like Gomes would cost approx 2.5-3m (including wages) over a two year period.

Stephens has cost approx 4m over his two year contract.

I would say in comparison it is relatively low risk.

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Re: Arthur Gomes

Post by JohnMac » Mon Aug 09, 2021 10:46 am

claret2018 wrote:
Mon Aug 09, 2021 10:14 am
I see in the news that the British Army are on standby to deliver food to shops due to the shortage of lorry drivers.

I wonder how far off we are from requesting an Army officer to play on the wing.
Only if the ball is egg shaped old chap :D

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Re: Arthur Gomes

Post by NewClaret » Mon Aug 09, 2021 10:48 am

martin_p wrote:
Mon Aug 09, 2021 10:27 am
It’s an odd thing to say, normally it’s ‘there’s nothing in it’ but this isn’t that sort of flat denial.
Should probably incorporate it to the club badge in latin for authenticity

“ Quit adepto excitatur”

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Re: Arthur Gomes

Post by warksclaret » Mon Aug 09, 2021 10:49 am

It could all be a smoke screen, as we eat into the window timescale

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Re: Arthur Gomes

Post by Rileybobs » Mon Aug 09, 2021 10:56 am

NewClaret wrote:
Mon Aug 09, 2021 10:43 am
It’s about 1.5% of revenue, so it’s all relative.

Huge sum for a Championship club, less so for a Premiership club. About as low risk as we’ll get if we’re looking at recruiting professional footballers (vs. youngsters).
Will this fella be playing for free as well? Will he be paying for his own relocation costs? A signing like this could easily cost in the region of £10m over the duration of a contract.

This would be in absolutely no sense of the term a risk-free piece of business. You've just seen a youtube clip of him where he doesn't exactly look like the 'next Richarliason' as someone else suggests he may be. He may be absolutely nowhere near the required standard. It's naivety in the extreme.

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Re: Arthur Gomes

Post by Rileybobs » Mon Aug 09, 2021 11:00 am

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Mon Aug 09, 2021 10:45 am
A signing like Gomes would cost approx 2.5-3m (including wages) over a two year period.

Stephens has cost approx 4m over his two year contract.

I would say in comparison it is relatively low risk.
You think that signing a player who has played his entire career in England, including the Premier League, is settled in the country and speaks the language is comparable to a Brazilian bloke who nobody had heard of until yesterday but has a Youtube video? Like I said above, it's naivety in the extreme and truly the stuff of Football Manager.

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Re: Arthur Gomes

Post by Pearcey » Mon Aug 09, 2021 11:00 am

This is going to go down as a classic thread. :-D

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Re: Arthur Gomes

Post by steve1264b » Mon Aug 09, 2021 11:03 am

I cant be bothered reading all 6 pages.

Doesn't our chairman have some involvement with Playerlens?

Maybe this Brazilian has a high score in some aspect of the game?

I will admit i dont know how playerlens works.

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Re: Arthur Gomes

Post by jtv » Mon Aug 09, 2021 11:08 am

Is he following Barnsley on Instagram yet?

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Re: Arthur Gomes

Post by Culmclaret » Mon Aug 09, 2021 11:10 am

More chance of Larry Gomes turning out for us next year

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Re: Arthur Gomes

Post by NewClaret » Mon Aug 09, 2021 11:11 am

Rileybobs wrote:
Mon Aug 09, 2021 10:56 am
Will this fella be playing for free as well? Will he be paying for his own relocation costs? A signing like this could easily cost in the region of £10m over the duration of a contract.

This would be in absolutely no sense of the term a risk-free piece of business. You've just seen a youtube clip of him where he doesn't exactly look like the 'next Richarliason' as someone else suggests he may be. He may be absolutely nowhere near the required standard. It's naivety in the extreme.
You seem to know a lot about the contract length and terms we’ve offered Rileybobs?? Where have these come from?? Your figures suggest that we’re giving the lad a 4 year contract on £2m a year. Quite unlikely for a bloke reported to be on £13k per annum from a club with a total salary bill of £8m, I’d say.

https://salarysport.com/football/brasil ... bol-clube/

He’ll be made up going from £13k to £2m overnight. :lol: :lol:

But since Boden has spoken, all a bit immaterial really.

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Re: Arthur Gomes

Post by AlargeClaret » Mon Aug 09, 2021 11:12 am

Doubt SD knew anything about it , stinks a little of agents ( Neymars dad ffs) and the most undyche like piece of business I can possibly imagine . That said at that price and however the deal is staggered maybe end up a decent bit of business long term

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Re: Arthur Gomes

Post by MarkGreen » Mon Aug 09, 2021 11:13 am

jtv wrote:
Mon Aug 09, 2021 11:08 am
Is he following Barnsley on Instagram yet?
Nope, he's not following Burnley anymore either.

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Re: Arthur Gomes

Post by Rileybobs » Mon Aug 09, 2021 11:29 am

NewClaret wrote:
Mon Aug 09, 2021 11:11 am
You seem to know a lot about the contract length and terms we’ve offered Rileybobs?? Where have these come from?? Your figures suggest that we’re giving the lad a 4 year contract on £2m a year. Quite unlikely for a bloke reported to be on £13k per annum from a club with a total salary bill of £8m, I’d say.

https://salarysport.com/football/brasil ... bol-clube/

He’ll be made up going from £13k to £2m overnight. :lol: :lol:

But since Boden has spoken, all a bit immaterial really.
I don't know anything about a contract length, and I doubt we even know who this bloke is never mind have offered terms. I also didn't suggest we're giving him anything, I used some very ball park figures based on what would seem to be a reasonable estimate of what our first team players earn.

But as you say, it's a totally risk free piece of business. Lets sign him up :lol:

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Re: Arthur Gomes

Post by NewClaret » Mon Aug 09, 2021 11:40 am

Rileybobs wrote:
Mon Aug 09, 2021 11:29 am
I don't know anything about a contract length, and I doubt we even know who this bloke is never mind have offered terms. I also didn't suggest we're giving him anything, I used some very ball park figures based on what would seem to be a reasonable estimate of what our first team players earn.

But as you say, it's a totally risk free piece of business. Lets sign him up :lol:
So you think we’d pay an unknown, unproven Brazilian the same as our established first teamers? Seems an incredible assumption. We could quadruple this lads wages and he’d be on £1k pw :lol:

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Re: Arthur Gomes

Post by Rileybobs » Mon Aug 09, 2021 11:42 am

NewClaret wrote:
Mon Aug 09, 2021 11:40 am
So you think we’d pay an unknown, unproven Brazilian the same as our established first teamers? Seems an incredible assumption. We could quadruple this lads wages and he’d be on £1k pw :lol:
I doubt we'd pay an unknown, unproven Brazilian anything, because it would be a stupid risk.

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Re: Arthur Gomes

Post by NewClaret » Mon Aug 09, 2021 11:49 am

Rileybobs wrote:
Mon Aug 09, 2021 11:42 am
I doubt we'd pay an unknown, unproven Brazilian anything, because it would be a stupid risk.
I agree - we should stick to our tried and tested transfer strategy of buying safe bets like Dale Stephens on £35k pw that spend all their time injured :lol:

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Re: Arthur Gomes

Post by bfcjg » Mon Aug 09, 2021 11:50 am

Você gostaria de queijo na sua omelete?
If this doesn't get him to sign nothing will.

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Re: Arthur Gomes

Post by rats » Mon Aug 09, 2021 11:52 am

Interesting horse running
14.45 Wolverhampton today!!

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Re: Arthur Gomes

Post by clarethomer » Mon Aug 09, 2021 11:59 am

I’m thinking this could be even lower risk if we sell the rights to Netflix to follow his first season.. Brazil to Burnley.. could even transpire into a load of movies - ha ha ha… maybe that’s making good use of the US connections

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Re: Arthur Gomes

Post by Bosscat » Mon Aug 09, 2021 12:00 pm

rats wrote:
Mon Aug 09, 2021 11:52 am
Interesting horse running
14.45 Wolverhampton today!!
Will it have wellies and a snorkel ...

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Re: Arthur Gomes

Post by jedi_master » Mon Aug 09, 2021 12:01 pm

I cannot wait to find out the true story behind this.

It’s gonna be Barnsley.

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Re: Arthur Gomes

Post by NewClaret » Mon Aug 09, 2021 12:06 pm

jedi_master wrote:
Mon Aug 09, 2021 12:01 pm
I cannot wait to find out the true story behind this.

It’s gonna be Barnsley.
The story of the transfer window :lol:

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Re: Arthur Gomes

Post by Rileybobs » Mon Aug 09, 2021 12:06 pm

NewClaret wrote:
Mon Aug 09, 2021 11:49 am
I agree - we should stick to our tried and tested transfer strategy of buying safe bets like Dale Stephens on £35k pw that spend all their time injured :lol:
Yeah I guess it's either or isn't it. You've talked me round, no risk whatsoever, sign him up.
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Re: Arthur Gomes

Post by wilks_bfc » Mon Aug 09, 2021 12:17 pm

clarethomer wrote:
Mon Aug 09, 2021 11:59 am
I’m thinking this could be even lower risk if we sell the rights to Netflix to follow his first season.. Brazil to Burnley.. could even transpire into a load of movies - ha ha ha… maybe that’s making good use of the US connections
As long as they are more like “Goal” than “Goal 3” :shock:

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