Arthur Gomes

[NewClaret]

Yeah I guess it's either or isn't it. You've talked me round, no risk whatsoever, sign him up.

Glad you’ve seen sense and come around

[Juan Tanamera]

Seen them all many times. These lads were all British kids who came through our system not a totally unknown from the streets of Brazil. He will be in for a shock with the change of climate, culture and language it will be extremely tough for him.

Say what you like this is a high risk signing, which I doubt as the Dyche seal of approval and I honestly doubt we will see much of him, hope I am proved wrong though

Oh yes I was forgetting, yer actual South American would never hack it on a cold, wet night in Stoke as they say.

[joey13]

Spot on but sadly those who do little but criticise everything about the club get very upset when they receive some criticism themselves.

And yet you never stop criticising your own clubs supporters, very strange.

[claretonthecoast1882]

How are you so emotionally invested into what people on here say? It's the internet, people have different opinions, don't let it take over your life.

[claretonthecoast1882]

And yet you never stop criticising your own clubs supporters, very strange.

Supporters

[Spike]

I hope he is less injury prone than Gnomeless at Liverpool

[bfcjg]

He was named Arthur by his forward thinking parents knowing that some day he would have to be tough enough for a January evening at Turf Moor. The ridicule he got at school will be worth it.

[TheFamilyCat]

This rumour could definitely make this my favourite ever transfer window, pipping the Grosicki flight tracker epic.

[Longsider]

This rumour could definitely make this my favourite ever transfer window, pipping the Grosicki flight tracker epic.

Nothing beats the flight tracker. That was a thread of legends.

[joey13]

This reminds me of Bambo

[randomclaret2]

Didnt Bambo play pre season though, over in Ireland ?

[JohnMac]

Will he be our first player to have his given first name on his shirt?

[gandhisflipflop]

311 replies and 7 pages on a player nobody had even heard of 48 hours ago. Only on a BFC messageboard.

[joey13]

Didnt Bambo play pre season though, over in Ireland ?

Did he , didn’t think anyone saw him

[KRBFC]

311 replies and 7 pages on a player nobody had even heard of 48 hours ago. Only on a BFC messageboard.

This topic shows how desperate we all are for some good news on the recruitment

[KateR]

I really hope this is true as it shows we are doing something completely different and I would strongly suspect due to new owners, which will show some different ways of attracting new players, with the ambition to bring them on and sell, which I personally think is a good thing.

However, I'm going to have to say when the dust settles I think Burnley will be Gomesless at the end of the day.

[TheFamilyCat]

Nothing beats the flight tracker. That was a thread of legends.

Yep, this still has legs in it though

[rats]

Arthur romps home 3/1

[burnley007]

I really hope this is true as it shows we are doing something completely different and I would strongly suspect due to new owners, which will show some different ways of attracting new players, with the ambition to bring them on and sell, which I personally think is a good thing.

Agree totally. It's definitely something we should have done much more of over the last few seasons, but then £2.5m is considerably more than SD normally gets to spend in a full season!!

[Mattster]

Of the things that don't make sense in this apparent deal the one I really don't buy is why we'd pay €2.5m for a player we could already offer a contract to today to join in January and not pay a penny if the intention is to flip for a profit or develop over time (since you would not expect him to be first team ready given his profile).

[GodIsADeeJay81]

Of the things that don't make sense in this apparent deal the one I really don't buy is why we'd pay €2.5m for a player we could already offer a contract to today to join in January and not pay a penny if the intention is to flip for a profit or develop over time (since you would not expect him to be first team ready given his profile).

Why wait an extra 6mths?
Maybe the player didn't want to wait?
2.5 million isn't a problem to pay to get him here now, plus it's an extra 6mths of development that we lose out on if we wait until Jan.

[TsarBomba]

Of the things that don't make sense in this apparent deal the one I really don't buy is why we'd pay €2.5m for a player we could already offer a contract to today to join in January and not pay a penny if the intention is to flip for a profit or develop over time (since you would not expect him to be first team ready given his profile).

Perhaps that was the original plan, but with the difficulties we’ve faced getting wingers in so far, we’ve brought it forward 6 months.

[Mattster]

Why wait an extra 6mths?
Maybe the player didn't want to wait?
2.5 million isn't a problem to pay to get him here now, plus it's an extra 6mths of development that we lose out on if we wait until Jan.

Because €2.5m is a significant amount for us, more so for a player like this. Especially when we're apparently playing chicken with Lyon / Hertha over similar amounts on Cornet, a first team ready signing.

6 months where he's starting most weeks in Brazil isn't going to hamper his development when with us he'd most likely be playing U23s in that same timeframe.

We got £1m for Benson and Dunne, both of whom had played Premier League games. At 23 Arthur Gomes needs to develop a significant amount for us to in anyway recover €2.5m for him.

Doesn't make sense to me at the amount being mentioned and I can't imagine the apparently savvy business men of ALK would think it does either.

[Stayingup]

311 replies and 7 pages on a player nobody had even heard of 48 hours ago. Only on a BFC messageboard.

Despertion. Desperate for any crumb of joy and this is.

[Vegas Claret]

it's 2.2 million British pounds, in PL terms that's nothing

[randomclaret2]

it's 2.2 million British pounds, in PL terms that's nothing

Its more than the club has spent in each of the last two windows

[burnley007]

it's 2.2 million British pounds, in PL terms that's nothing

In Burnley terms, it's enormous! Considerably more than we spent the whole of last season!! (which is ridiculous, obviously!)

[Vegas Claret]

Its more than the club has spent in each of the last two windows

that was the square root of nothing (or it felt like it!)

[Mattster]

it's 2.2 million British pounds, in PL terms that's nothing

Double what we spent all last season. The kind of figure we regularly haggle over. More than we got for Benson and Dunne combined.

[Taffy on the wing]

Wait........we haven't signed him yet?

ALL IS DROSS!

[GodIsADeeJay81]

Because €2.5m is a significant amount for us, more so for a player like this. Especially when we're apparently playing chicken with Lyon / Hertha over similar amounts on Cornet, a first team ready signing.

6 months where he's starting most weeks in Brazil isn't going to hamper his development when with us he'd most likely be playing U23s in that same timeframe.

We got £1m for Benson and Dunne, both of whom had played Premier League games. At 23 Arthur Gomes needs to develop a significant amount for us to in anyway recover €2.5m for him.

Doesn't make sense to me at the amount being mentioned and I can't imagine the apparently savvy business men of ALK would think it does either.

They're the ones sanctioning the deal, if it didn't make sense to them then it wouldn't happen.
£2.5 million is nothing, stop being small minded.

Cornet is still ongoing I suspect, so if he rocks up this lad will be back up and is here getting used to us, life over here and the league with less pressure.

[Mattster]

They're the ones sanctioning the deal, if it didn't make sense to them then it wouldn't happen.
£2.5 million is nothing, stop being small minded.

Cornet is still ongoing I suspect, so if he rocks up this lad will be back up and is here getting used to us, life over here and the league with less pressure.

Small minded for questioning why we'd pay €2.5m for a player we could sign on a free today to join in less than 5 months time

[GodIsADeeJay81]

Small minded for questioning why we'd pay €2.5m for a player we could sign on a free today to join in less than 5 months time

It's a small amount.
He gets extra time to settle in, which is important because he's moving across the world and some players genuinely struggle with it.
Extra time to get used to our style and he's also got to get used to the language.

Yes you're being small minded because you're unable to grasp these important things.

[wilks_bfc]

And in those 5 months somebody else may come in for him then we will have some going “another one we’ve missed out on. Should have got him last year”

[Mattster]

And in those 5 months somebody else may come in for him then we will have some going “another one we’ve missed out on. Should have got him last year”

No because he can literally sign a contract with us today.

[Newcastleclaret93]

It's a small amount.
He gets extra time to settle in, which is important because he's moving across the world and some players genuinely struggle with it.
Extra time to get used to our style and he's also got to get used to the language.

Yes you're being small minded because you're unable to grasp these important things.

I think both of you are right, finances are obviously quite tight so it would seem a strange deal. However as DJ says in the grand scheme of things this fee will probably be paid over a couple of seasons, there should not really be noticed on the cash flow side of things.

I hope it happens he could be a little gem. I also think it could take him 6-12 months to get bedded in, so signing him now rather than down the line makes sense.

[Mattster]

It's a small amount.
He gets extra time to settle in, which is important because he's moving across the world and some players genuinely struggle with it.
Extra time to get used to our style and he's also got to get used to the language.

Yes you're being small minded because you're unable to grasp these important things.

€2.5m for an extra <4 months to "settle in". The Brazilian season finishes on 5th December so he could be here for a month settling in.

Think there's much better things that €2.5m could be spent on than <4 months for this guy to settle in but maybe you're just too small minded to see that

[GodIsADeeJay81]

€2.5m for an extra <4 months to "settle in". The Brazilian season finishes on 5th December so he could be here for a month settling in.

Think there's much better things that €2.5m could be spent on than <4 months for this guy to settle in but maybe you're just too small minded to see that

Did you move across the world at 23/24?
New country, no family or friends, language to learn etc.

The club cannot win with people like you, they make efforts to sign someone and you're just whinging about it.

Also JBG could break down next week...

[Mattster]

Did you move across the world at 23/24?
New country, no family or friends, language to learn etc.

The club cannot win with people like you, they make efforts to sign someone and you're just whinging about it.

Also JBG could break down next week...

And you think Dyche would play him in the next few months if he needs 5 months to just settle in? At least be consistent with your points

I'm not whingeing about signing him, no issue with us picking him up for free. I just don't buy that we would spend that much money for a player that we could sign for nothing and have with us in under 4 months time. It's something that doesn't ring true in the story, either the whole thing is a fake story or the fee will be much less IMO.

[Sozturf7]

Total agreement with Godisadj.

[GodIsADeeJay81]

And you think Dyche would play him in the next few months if he needs 5 months to just settle in? At least be consistent with your points

I'm not whingeing about signing him, no issue with us picking him up for free. I just don't buy that we would spend that much money for a player that we could sign for nothing and have with us in under 4 months time. It's something that doesn't ring true in the story, either the whole thing is a fake story or the fee will be much less IMO.

They'd want to allow him as much time as poss to get settled however if JBG broke down, for example, if this lad is here he will get used.
I'm being consistent.

£2.5 million isn't a lot of money for us.

Now you're picking at the story being fake or the fee being less.

Like I said, they can't win with people like you, whinge if they pay, thinks it's a fake story etc.
You're probably one of those who's claimed the club makes bids just for show to appease the fans

[Vegas Claret]

any person that moves to another country takes quite a bit of time to settle in, doesn't mean it's not worth the effort to do so.

[minnieclaret]

He was named Arthur by his forward thinking parents knowing that some day he would have to be tough enough for a January evening at Turf Moor. The ridicule he got at school will be worth it.

Named after Arthur Bellamy, I’ve heard. A great Claret.

[Mattster]

They'd want to allow him as much time as poss to get settled however if JBG broke down, for example, if this lad is here he will get used.
I'm being consistent.

£2.5 million isn't a lot of money for us.

Now you're picking at the story being fake or the fee being less.

Like I said, they can't win with people like you, whinge if they pay, thinks it's a fake story etc.
You're probably one of those who's claimed the club makes bids just for show to appease the fans

Read my first post back. I didn't say I was against him signing (I haven't said that once), I said I didn't buy it as the fee didn't make sense for a player we could sign for nothing. Then you're just making things up about me (accusing the club of making bids for show) off the back of you not being able to read properly

And think this through, how would the board not be able to win with me if I think they're too smart to pay such a fee when they don't have to? Surely that's me giving them credit?

Try again, mate, you're having a shocker.

[Vegas Claret]

little bit more info

[GodIsADeeJay81]

Read my first post back. I didn't say I was against him signing (I haven't said that once), I said I didn't buy it as the fee didn't make sense for a player we could sign for nothing. Then you're just making things up about me (accusing the club of making bids for show) off the back of you not being able to read properly

And think this through, how would the board not be able to win with me if I think they're too smart to pay such a fee when they don't have to? Surely that's me giving them credit?

Try again, mate, you're having a shocker.

No shocker here, you're the one having a bitch fit about the club trying to buy a player because it doesn't suit how you think they should do it.

Have fun crying though, it's hilarious.

[claretblue]

Named after Arthur Bellamy, I’ve heard. A great Claret.

similar to a Boy named Sue!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Gbtm-93oqE

[claretblue]

He was named Arthur by his forward thinking parents knowing that some day he would have to be tough enough for a January evening at Turf Moor. The ridicule he got at school will be worth it.

similar to a Boy named Sue!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Gbtm-93oqE

[Im_not_Robbie_Blake]

Arthur Bellamy - Arthur Gnohere - Arthur Gomez

Legends all?

[Elbarad]

Maybe if we waited until he was on a free he would have different options available to him. If we pay a fee at least we limit our competition to other teams also willing to pay a fee, then it's just a matter of coming to personal terms and selling him on his role in the team.

I'm all for stepping outside our normal model of rejects from the big squad's under 23s, League One stars, and good players past their prime.