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Re: Brentford v Arsenal

Post by AshevilleNCClaret » Fri Aug 13, 2021 9:55 pm

Steve1956 wrote:
Fri Aug 13, 2021 9:43 pm
So good something going against Arsenal though after all the shlt they have got away with against us over the years
I looked at the replay... Brentford just kinda stood in his way, the keeper either needs to push the player out of the way or flap their arms and fall on the ground to get the call.

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Re: Brentford v Arsenal

Post by Colburn_Claret » Fri Aug 13, 2021 9:58 pm

Funkydrummer wrote:
Fri Aug 13, 2021 9:49 pm
It's a real Brentford love -in on my stream.
If it stops the media love in with Leeds I can live with it :D

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Re: Brentford v Arsenal

Post by KRBFC » Fri Aug 13, 2021 9:58 pm

No idea how Arteta has lasted 2 years, 8th in both seasons and they won 5 games on the bounce to squeak 8th last time.

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Re: Brentford v Arsenal

Post by Claretlad » Fri Aug 13, 2021 9:59 pm

Thats how to do it...

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Re: Brentford v Arsenal

Post by Local cricketer » Fri Aug 13, 2021 10:00 pm

I can see Thomas Frank joining the prick list pretty quickly
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Re: Brentford v Arsenal

Post by RVclaret » Fri Aug 13, 2021 10:01 pm

Arteta definitely the biggest fraud manager around right now.

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Re: Brentford v Arsenal

Post by FCBurnley » Fri Aug 13, 2021 10:02 pm

Bet Rovers are happy they binned Raya

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Re: Brentford v Arsenal

Post by minnieclaret » Fri Aug 13, 2021 10:02 pm

Enjoyed that. Game flowed much better. Not a dirty game but there would have been more cards in the past. At season end we’ll find it is to the benefit of the top6.
Arteta struggling.

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Re: Brentford v Arsenal

Post by Colburn_Claret » Fri Aug 13, 2021 10:04 pm

As a neutral I enjoyed that.
Brentford look like they have enough to stay up, but Arsenal are embarrassing considering the riches they've had over the years. Those who say SD couldn't manage a top side are mad if they think he isn't better than Arteta. It's surely only the anti English bias of foreign owners that would stop him.

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Re: Brentford v Arsenal

Post by Stayingup » Fri Aug 13, 2021 10:05 pm

Bigvince wrote:
Fri Aug 13, 2021 9:24 pm
Neither am I, but if them beating teams that are likely to be around the bottom of the league, enables us to do what your user name indicates, then I’ll not begrudge an arsenal win!
But Arsenal might be bottom of the league. They are not very good.

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Re: Brentford v Arsenal

Post by diamondpocket » Fri Aug 13, 2021 10:11 pm

Typical Arsenal, weak, no back bone and think they can just pass the ball in. It's the Arsenal way that they all love that Wenger, the most over-rated manager in the history of the Prem, has instilled in the club and that they think must continue! The last time they won The Prem was when? The Invincible years, many moons ago. I wish we would stop thinking of them as a big club anymore. They pay over the rate for average players and everyone automatically thinks they are therefore good players. A superficial, weak club who'll do nothing this season.
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Re: Brentford v Arsenal

Post by boatshed bill » Fri Aug 13, 2021 10:11 pm

This is what gets to me:
We are one game into a PL season (is it 380 games in total), and already talking about our relegation rivals.
How do you pessimists get by? Enjoy what you watch.

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Re: Brentford v Arsenal

Post by NewClaret » Fri Aug 13, 2021 10:14 pm

AshevilleNCClaret wrote:
Fri Aug 13, 2021 9:55 pm
I looked at the replay... Brentford just kinda stood in his way, the keeper either needs to push the player out of the way or flap their arms and fall on the ground to get the call.
Can’t say I noticed it, but I generally think the protection afforded to GK’s is ridiculous. Won’t be disappointed if that changes this season too.

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Re: Brentford v Arsenal

Post by Spijed » Fri Aug 13, 2021 10:15 pm

Bigvince wrote:
Fri Aug 13, 2021 9:24 pm
Neither am I, but if them beating teams that are likely to be around the bottom of the league, enables us to do what your user name indicates, then I’ll not begrudge an arsenal win!
And as we need 36 points to guarantee safety it helps if we play more teams that are low in confidence.

Last Season was a bit different for us in that we dropped more points than normal against the bottom sides. Beating them allows us more wriggle room.

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Re: Brentford v Arsenal

Post by Billy Balfour » Fri Aug 13, 2021 10:19 pm

Anyway, it doesn't matter what we say on here. It's not like wanting Brentford to beat Arsenal somehow made the result come about.

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Re: Brentford v Arsenal

Post by TheFamilyCat » Fri Aug 13, 2021 10:20 pm

Colburn_Claret wrote:
Fri Aug 13, 2021 10:04 pm
As a neutral I enjoyed that.
Brentford look like they have enough to stay up, but Arsenal are embarrassing considering the riches they've had over the years. Those who say SD couldn't manage a top side are mad if they think he isn't better than Arteta. It's surely only the anti English bias of foreign owners that would stop him.
People probably said that about us when we beat United in 2009. It's a long season.

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Re: Brentford v Arsenal

Post by ksrclaret » Fri Aug 13, 2021 10:24 pm

Brentford with a very impressive showing on their PL debut. I think they've got the strongest chance of the newly promoted sides of staying up and I can see them achieving it.

As for Arsenal - bloody hell.

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Re: Brentford v Arsenal

Post by Jamesy » Fri Aug 13, 2021 10:25 pm

I cannot believe how bad Arsenal were. It looked like they had only met each other for the first time this afternoon.

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Re: Brentford v Arsenal

Post by COBBLE » Fri Aug 13, 2021 10:26 pm

How bad are Arsenal. I can't believe how bad they are and how far they are from where they think they are. Brentford showed nothing more than Championship endeavour. Arteta looks like he has lost before kick-off.

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Re: Brentford v Arsenal

Post by Stayingup » Fri Aug 13, 2021 10:28 pm

What a performance by one of the EPL recognized top six teams. Haha

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Re: Brentford v Arsenal

Post by bobinho » Fri Aug 13, 2021 10:33 pm

Turn up, have a go at em and see what happens.

Saw it last season from the few teams that had a go at city. Big clubs and big teams are used to smaller clubs and teams turning up purely to limit damage and as a result of that they have honed their skills to counter it easily. Have a go at em and they are like rabbits in the headlights….

Wonder what we will do?

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Re: Brentford v Arsenal

Post by Jamesy » Fri Aug 13, 2021 10:34 pm

bobinho wrote:
Fri Aug 13, 2021 10:33 pm
Turn up, have a go at em and see what happens.

Saw it last season from the few teams that had a go at city. Big clubs and big teams are used to smaller clubs and teams turning up purely to limit damage and as a result of that they have honed their skills to counter it easily. Have a go at em and they are like rabbits in the headlights….

Wonder what we will do?
Same as we usually do, get our bellies tickled.

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Re: Brentford v Arsenal

Post by Spijed » Fri Aug 13, 2021 10:40 pm

bobinho wrote:
Fri Aug 13, 2021 10:33 pm
Turn up, have a go at em and see what happens.

Saw it last season from the few teams that had a go at city. Big clubs and big teams are used to smaller clubs and teams turning up purely to limit damage and as a result of that they have honed their skills to counter it easily. Have a go at em and they are like rabbits in the headlights….

Wonder what we will do?
So you'd rather play like Norwich and beat Man City 3-2 and get relegated?

Or you'd rather play like Watford and beat Liverpool 3-0 and guess what?

Get relegated.

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Re: Brentford v Arsenal

Post by HahaYeah » Fri Aug 13, 2021 10:47 pm

Not a good result for us but I must say it was great to see proper fans celebrating and not a bunch of hooray Henrys and Henriettas.

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Re: Brentford v Arsenal

Post by Jamesy » Fri Aug 13, 2021 11:20 pm

HahaYeah wrote:
Fri Aug 13, 2021 10:47 pm
Not a good result for us but I must say it was great to see proper fans celebrating and not a bunch of hooray Henrys and Henriettas.
Even though I am probably not the most optimistic supporter right now I think we would beat Brentford comfortably.

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Re: Brentford v Arsenal

Post by Vegas Claret » Fri Aug 13, 2021 11:28 pm

Wenger out

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Re: Brentford v Arsenal

Post by ElectroClaret » Fri Aug 13, 2021 11:31 pm

HahaYeah wrote:
Fri Aug 13, 2021 10:47 pm
Not a good result for us...
Jesus fckuing Christ. First game of the season and its "not a good result for us".

I give up, I really do. :(

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Re: Brentford v Arsenal

Post by aggi » Sat Aug 14, 2021 2:44 am

bobinho wrote:
Fri Aug 13, 2021 10:33 pm
Turn up, have a go at em and see what happens.

Saw it last season from the few teams that had a go at city. Big clubs and big teams are used to smaller clubs and teams turning up purely to limit damage and as a result of that they have honed their skills to counter it easily. Have a go at em and they are like rabbits in the headlights….

Wonder what we will do?
Isn't that what we did against arsenal last season? Put them under lots of pressure so they made mistakes.

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Re: Brentford v Arsenal

Post by aggi » Sat Aug 14, 2021 2:47 am

I wonder who's in charge of transfers at Arsenal. They really don't have a good team for the amount of money they spend. I don't think Arteta is a good manager but having the team they do doesn't help.

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Re: Brentford v Arsenal

Post by djemba-djemba » Sat Aug 14, 2021 5:17 am

diamondpocket wrote:
Fri Aug 13, 2021 10:11 pm
Wenger, the most over-rated manager in the history of the Prem
What a moronic comment. He was superb.

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Re: Brentford v Arsenal

Post by bobinho » Sat Aug 14, 2021 7:40 am

Spijed wrote:
Fri Aug 13, 2021 10:40 pm
So you'd rather play like Norwich and beat Man City 3-2 and get relegated?

Or you'd rather play like Watford and beat Liverpool 3-0 and guess what?

Get relegated.
No. I wouldn’t rather do either of those two things. But they aren’t the only two options available are they? If you get one you don’t necessarily get the other, but I suspect you know that….

I’d rather turn up and have a real go at city and Liverpool because if we do and get the extra points, and all the other games remain the same, we finish two or three places higher in the league. At the moment, we turn up against city hoping it’s going to be less than the usual 5.

We normally get a spanking…. For this one fixture, this one game, I’d like to see us try a different approach, because tipping up like we have been doing gets us absolutely nothing.

We won’t be relegated because city spank us, it’s not a season defining result. I’d just like to see us have a go for a change.

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Re: Brentford v Arsenal

Post by claret2018 » Sat Aug 14, 2021 7:45 am

What are you all on about? I think it’s great that one of our relegation rivals lost last night.
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Re: Brentford v Arsenal

Post by bobinho » Sat Aug 14, 2021 7:48 am

aggi wrote:
Sat Aug 14, 2021 2:44 am
Isn't that what we did against arsenal last season? Put them under lots of pressure so they made mistakes.
Yep. Wouldnt it be good if we cajoled and harassed city in the same way.

City love having a lot of the ball.

We are happy for them to have it.

Trouble is, they are excellent in possession, they make better decisions and therefore better passes when they have it and very quickly out teams like us to the sword. I’d like us to press quicker and higher and actually try to get the ball off them.

Yeah, I know it sounds crazy, but I’m not so crackers as to think we can out football them, id like us to not allow them to work the ball around so easily and freely. Get in their faces, get amongst em and make them think. That, I’m absolutely sure, we can do, because I have seen us do it with other teams.

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Re: Brentford v Arsenal

Post by XDS » Sat Aug 14, 2021 9:48 am

Slightly off topic but how good was it to see the young down syndrome lad's face as he celebrated with the players and Thomas Frank, fantastic to have the crowds back

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Re: Brentford v Arsenal

Post by tiger76 » Sat Aug 14, 2021 1:10 pm

diamondpocket wrote:
Fri Aug 13, 2021 10:11 pm
Typical Arsenal, weak, no back bone and think they can just pass the ball in. It's the Arsenal way that they all love that Wenger, the most over-rated manager in the history of the Prem, has instilled in the club and that they think must continue! The last time they won The Prem was when? The Invincible years, many moons ago. I wish we would stop thinking of them as a big club anymore. They pay over the rate for average players and everyone automatically thinks they are therefore good players. A superficial, weak club who'll do nothing this season.
I agree with most of that, however to state Wenger is the most over-rated manager in PL history is quite frankly bonkers.

And just look at how far they've dipped since they gave AW the boot, yes his last few years weren't great, but compared to the dross being served up now they were a major force who always made the top 4.

Spot on that Arsenal will do nothing this season though.
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Re: Brentford v Arsenal

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Sat Aug 14, 2021 1:14 pm

diamondpocket wrote:
Fri Aug 13, 2021 10:11 pm
Typical Arsenal, weak, no back bone and think they can just pass the ball in. It's the Arsenal way that they all love that Wenger, the most over-rated manager in the history of the Prem, has instilled in the club and that they think must continue! The last time they won The Prem was when? The Invincible years, many moons ago. I wish we would stop thinking of them as a big club anymore. They pay over the rate for average players and everyone automatically thinks they are therefore good players. A superficial, weak club who'll do nothing this season.
Wenger who changed English football and not once failed to finish top 4 during his time at Arsenal and won everything, I think, in English football and had teams playing some absolutely fantastic football, including an unbeaten League season?

I wish Dyche was that over rated.
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Re: Brentford v Arsenal

Post by BurnleyFC » Sat Aug 14, 2021 1:21 pm

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
Sat Aug 14, 2021 1:14 pm
Wenger who changed English football and not once failed to finish top 4 during his time at Arsenal and won everything, I think, in English football and had teams playing some absolutely fantastic football, including an unbeaten League season?

I wish Dyche was that over rated.
Wenger did finish outside of the top 4 on at least one occasion.

That’s why they wanted rid of him, when they lost their Champions League spot.

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Re: Brentford v Arsenal

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Sat Aug 14, 2021 1:26 pm

BurnleyFC wrote:
Sat Aug 14, 2021 1:21 pm
Wenger did finish outside of the top 4 on at least one occasion.

That’s why they wanted rid of him, when they lost their Champions League spot.
Still not a bad record to have though

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Re: Brentford v Arsenal

Post by BurnleyFC » Sat Aug 14, 2021 1:28 pm

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
Sat Aug 14, 2021 1:26 pm
Still not a bad record to have though
I bet they wish they still had him at the club.

They only have themselves to blame. Emery has proven repeatedly that he’s a good coach also.

Arteta is a million miles away, though.
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Re: Brentford v Arsenal

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Sat Aug 14, 2021 1:31 pm

BurnleyFC wrote:
Sat Aug 14, 2021 1:28 pm
I bet they wish they still had him at the club.

They only have themselves to blame. Emery has proven repeatedly that he’s a good coach also.

Arteta is a million miles away, though.
Honestly I think he'd reached the natural end of his time at Arsenal and they needed a refresh.
They just went about it wrongly, but so did Utd at first and even now OGS really needs to start winning stuff after the money spent.

It has been amusing to watch Arsenal flounder though after their Wenger out stuff.

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Re: Brentford v Arsenal

Post by box_of_frogs » Sat Aug 14, 2021 7:42 pm

ElectroClaret wrote:
Fri Aug 13, 2021 11:31 pm
Jesus fckuing Christ. First game of the season and its "not a good result for us".

I give up, I really do. :(
Any change of mind yet? Just wondering……

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Re: Brentford v Arsenal

Post by HahaYeah » Sat Aug 14, 2021 8:49 pm

ElectroClaret wrote:
Fri Aug 13, 2021 11:31 pm
Jesus fckuing Christ. First game of the season and its "not a good result for us".

I give up, I really do. :(
Could be an important 3 points at the end of the season.

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