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England v India 5th test

Post by Local cricketer » Fri Sep 10, 2021 7:08 am

Woke up early all excited then remembered it’s tomorrow I’m going.

Game is on after a covid scare and India’s desperation to get out for the ipl. Buttler and Wood likely to play with the Indians resting Bumrah and Jadeja by the sounds of it.

Anyone going today have a belting day

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Re: England v India 5th test

Post by Burnley1989 » Fri Sep 10, 2021 7:11 am

:( Will be a wash out I fear

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Re: England v India 5th test

Post by Steve-Harpers-perm » Fri Sep 10, 2021 7:56 am

Few rumours day 1 to be postponed as Indian team don’t want to play over Covid fears.

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Re: England v India 5th test

Post by Longsidelenny1882 » Fri Sep 10, 2021 8:00 am

Thinking of going Monday can you pay on the day if it last that long upthecolne

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Re: England v India 5th test

Post by ChrisG » Fri Sep 10, 2021 8:04 am

Currently very overcast, and it's been raining all night, but it's reasonably warm here. I'm about 4 miles away from the ground.

Cracking conditions for JM Anderson to have a bowl!
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Re: England v India 5th test

Post by Local cricketer » Fri Sep 10, 2021 8:11 am

Don’t think anyone will be bowling sadly. Ridiculous that a test match could be cancelled to protect the ipl

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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Fri Sep 10, 2021 8:35 am

Surely India have to forfeit the match?

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Re: England v India 5th test

Post by ClaretTony » Fri Sep 10, 2021 8:38 am

Just been called off.

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Re: England v India 5th test

Post by Flixton Claret » Fri Sep 10, 2021 8:38 am

What part of Mancunia is that ChrisG?
I’m there Sunday which looks much drier - as does Saturday!

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Re: England v India 5th test

Post by Spijed » Fri Sep 10, 2021 8:41 am

Steve-Harpers-perm wrote:
Fri Sep 10, 2021 7:56 am
Few rumours day 1 to be postponed as Indian team don’t want to play over Covid fears.
Leading 2-1 in the series might help in that respect.

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Re: England v India 5th test

Post by taio » Fri Sep 10, 2021 9:00 am

Spijed wrote:
Fri Sep 10, 2021 8:41 am
Leading 2-1 in the series might help in that respect.
Why? Suspect it will end up 2-2.

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Re: England v India 5th test

Post by kentonclaret » Fri Sep 10, 2021 9:08 am

Match forfeited so 2-2 although no India players recorded a positive Covid result from the latest round of testing.

Shame, it was turning out to be one of the better Test Series.
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Post by dandeclaret » Fri Sep 10, 2021 9:10 am

An absolute shambles.
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Re: England v India 5th test

Post by Longsidelenny1882 » Fri Sep 10, 2021 9:13 am

Must be serious to cancel the game a lot of money gone down the drain tickets hotels transport food etc upthecolne

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Re: England v India 5th test

Post by nil_desperandum » Fri Sep 10, 2021 9:16 am

Longsidelenny1882 wrote:
Fri Sep 10, 2021 9:13 am
Must be serious to cancel the game a lot of money gone down the drain tickets hotels transport food etc upthecolne
None of the players are positive according to reports.
Hotel facilities on site for players if they really wanted to "isolate" and play.
Anyway - this was England's best chance of saving the series.
Pity for those of us who were going on Monday though.

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Re: England v India 5th test

Post by ChrisG » Fri Sep 10, 2021 9:20 am

Flixton Claret wrote:
Fri Sep 10, 2021 8:38 am
What part of Mancunia is that ChrisG?
I’m there Sunday which looks much drier - as does Saturday!
Timperley, not far from you!

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Re: England v India 5th test

Post by Targetman » Fri Sep 10, 2021 9:36 am

ECB amended their original statement and are now quoting India as saying they can't raise a team.

According to the BBC website some of India's backroom staff have tested positive, it says their players were all clear on the last round of testing.
It all sounds a bit strange?

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Re: England v India 5th test

Post by buzzclarets79 » Fri Sep 10, 2021 9:38 am

Gutted as had tickets for the 1st day for last years test at OT which they moved to this test so technically that’s two tests missed due to COVID.

Was just walking out the door to catch the bus… gutted.

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Re: England v India 5th test

Post by tiger76 » Fri Sep 10, 2021 9:42 am

Aggers seems to think the IPL is the main reason for this call-off, and I don't wish to be cynical, but I'm inclined to agree with him.

BBC cricket correspondent Jonathan Agnew

This is quite bizarre because last night the players all passed their PCR tests. We went to bed thinking the match would go ahead.

I suspect the IPL would have a lot to do with this. It starts in 10 days' time. The players are on huge contacts. The IPL is worth £300m to the Board of Control for Cricket in India (BCCI).

They are desperate to protect their product and the players protect their contracts. This stands to cost the ECB £20m, one assumes there would be some negotiations about that with the BCCI.
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Re: England v India 5th test

Post by Spijed » Fri Sep 10, 2021 9:43 am

Targetman wrote:
Fri Sep 10, 2021 9:36 am
ECB amended their original statement and are now quoting India as saying they can't raise a team.

According to the BBC website some of India's backroom staff have tested positive, it says their players were all clear on the last round of testing.
It all sounds a bit strange?
From the BBC:

The ECB statement initially said that India, who led the series 2-1, had forfeited the final Test and the series was drawn 2-2. The statement has since been amended to say: "India are regrettably unable to field a team."

The final result is unclear.

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Re: England v India 5th test

Post by The Enclosure » Fri Sep 10, 2021 9:46 am

Damn was really looking forward to going on Sunday...Consolation I can go and watch Burnley try and win the league on Sunday instead.
The IPL will have had a big say in this..money talks.

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Re: England v India 5th test

Post by Rileybobs » Fri Sep 10, 2021 10:06 am

Got to hand it to England for rescuing the series when under pressure.
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Re: England v India 5th test

Post by CaptainKirk » Fri Sep 10, 2021 10:36 am

Am I reading this right?
They backed out of the Test because they have a better offer waiting in the IPL?
Should they not be thrown out of International cricket?
Oh no, let's pretend they couldn't raise a team so we don't have to do anything about it.
I may be wrong as I know nothing about cricket, although I can't imagine an England team doing this.

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Re: England v India 5th test

Post by Quickenthetempo » Fri Sep 10, 2021 10:39 am

CaptainKirk wrote:
Fri Sep 10, 2021 10:36 am
Am I reading this right?
They backed out of the Test because they have a better offer waiting in the IPL?
Should they not be thrown out of International cricket?
Oh no, let's pretend they couldn't raise a team so we don't have to do anything about it.
I may be wrong as I know nothing about cricket, although I can't imagine an England team doing this.
Unfortunately Indian cricket is a powerhouse in cricket and their IPL earns them billions. An away Test not so much.

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Re: England v India 5th test

Post by TheFamilyCat » Fri Sep 10, 2021 10:54 am

CaptainKirk wrote:
Fri Sep 10, 2021 10:36 am
Am I reading this right?
They backed out of the Test because they have a better offer waiting in the IPL?
Should they not be thrown out of International cricket?
Oh no, let's pretend they couldn't raise a team so we don't have to do anything about it.
I may be wrong as I know nothing about cricket, although I can't imagine an England team doing this.
You are read that but you should be cautious of treating every opinion you read as fact.

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Re: England v India 5th test

Post by Spijed » Fri Sep 10, 2021 11:02 am

Similar happened in the Rugby League World cup. The Aussies gave the excuse that the UK was unsafe for the players, whereas in reality it was all down to money.

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Re: England v India 5th test

Post by JarrowClaret » Fri Sep 10, 2021 11:07 am

We did the same to South Africa part of the landscape now unfortunately.

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Post by joey13 » Fri Sep 10, 2021 11:09 am

Spijed wrote:
Fri Sep 10, 2021 11:02 am
Similar happened in the Rugby League World cup. The Aussies gave the excuse that the UK was unsafe for the players, whereas in reality it was all down to money.
The UK is unsafe , have you checked the cases lately

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Post by JarrowClaret » Fri Sep 10, 2021 11:29 am

Amount of cases doesn’t make the UK unsafe as such as long as you are vaccinated, if you aren’t vaccinated then I would whole heartedly agree it is probably unsafe.

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Post by Steve-Harpers-perm » Fri Sep 10, 2021 11:36 am

Pubs in Manchester City centre at least getting lots of bonus money. Absolutely pathetic from India.

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Post by Silkyskills1 » Fri Sep 10, 2021 11:54 am

Steve-Harpers-perm wrote:
Fri Sep 10, 2021 11:36 am
Pubs in Manchester City centre at least getting lots of bonus money. Absolutely pathetic from India.
I'm there later. Perhaps might see you there.

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Post by Local cricketer » Fri Sep 10, 2021 12:32 pm

Well at least we will be fresh for the main event down at the boohoo on Sunday

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Post by Quickenthetempo » Fri Sep 10, 2021 12:33 pm

Cask Ale, a pound a pint at the ground until 2pm, I've been told.

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Post by tiger76 » Fri Sep 10, 2021 3:36 pm

Not great news for Lancashire this cancellation either, it'll hit them hard in the pocket as well as the ECB.

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Post by CleggHall » Fri Sep 10, 2021 4:20 pm

A shabby decision and outcome however you slice it.
Better to play Test cricket in summer not mid-Sept but the Hundred was too important to allow this.

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Post by BigF » Fri Sep 10, 2021 4:36 pm

joey13 wrote:
Fri Sep 10, 2021 11:09 am
The UK is unsafe , have you checked the cases lately
But is India any safer? Bet the players will be happy to play there in the IPL

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Post by bfcbri » Fri Sep 10, 2021 4:39 pm

It isn't being played in India because of Covid it has moved to the UAE

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Re: England v India 5th test

Post by Buxtonclaret » Fri Sep 10, 2021 4:45 pm

Something really stinks here.
Proper Test crickets getting increasingly marginalised.
Like footy has become, it's all about money. India &"the IPL have it all and, any way they want.
Had been really looking forward to the next couple of days.
I'd even bought a new waterproof....
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Re: England v India 5th test

Post by tiger76 » Fri Sep 10, 2021 8:02 pm

CleggHall wrote:
Fri Sep 10, 2021 4:20 pm
A shabby decision and outcome however you slice it.
Better to play Test cricket in summer not mid-Sept but the Hundred was too important to allow this.
Yes I do wonder if this farce will mark the beginning of the end for test cricket, already it's seen by some as a nuisance, and many clubs and now seemingly countries value the white ball formats way higher than the traditional form of the game, as someone who relishes the ebb and flow of a 5 day match, as we've seen a couple of times in this series, it'll be a sad day when and if that comes to pass, but TBH I'll be surprised if test cricket is still going in 10 years, all the investment and media interest is focussed on the shorter forms, whether that be 50 overs, T20, or now The Hundred, and for a lot of the younger generation the 5 day game is now seen as the poor relation I'm afraid.

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Post by JohnDearyMe » Fri Sep 10, 2021 8:04 pm

tiger76 wrote:
Fri Sep 10, 2021 8:02 pm
Yes I do wonder if this farce will mark the beginning of the end for test cricket, already it's seen by some as a nuisance, and many clubs and now seemingly countries value the white ball formats way higher than the traditional form of the game, as someone who relishes the ebb and flow of a 5 day match, as we've seen a couple of times in this series, it'll be a sad day when and if that comes to pass, but TBH I'll be surprised if test cricket is still going in 10 years, all the investment and media interest is focussed on the shorter forms, whether that be 50 overs, T20, or now The Hundred, and for a lot of the younger generation the 5 day game is now seen as the poor relation I'm afraid.
Such a shame as it has been an exciting series too

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Post by Burnley1989 » Fri Sep 10, 2021 8:18 pm

tiger76 wrote:
Fri Sep 10, 2021 8:02 pm
Yes I do wonder if this farce will mark the beginning of the end for test cricket, already it's seen by some as a nuisance, and many clubs and now seemingly countries value the white ball formats way higher than the traditional form of the game, as someone who relishes the ebb and flow of a 5 day match, as we've seen a couple of times in this series, it'll be a sad day when and if that comes to pass, but TBH I'll be surprised if test cricket is still going in 10 years, all the investment and media interest is focussed on the shorter forms, whether that be 50 overs, T20, or now The Hundred, and for a lot of the younger generation the 5 day game is now seen as the poor relation I'm afraid.
I agree, it’s the mentality of folk these days, they want instant results and success… no such thing as grinding out a win over 5 days or having a career plan, it’s all about instant results.

I love all formats, T20 the least and I’m 32… I do really enjoy a good one dayer, but test cricket all day long for me

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Re: England v India 5th test

Post by tiger76 » Fri Sep 10, 2021 8:41 pm

Burnley1989 wrote:
Fri Sep 10, 2021 8:18 pm
I agree, it’s the mentality of folk these days, they want instant results and success… no such thing as grinding out a win over 5 days or having a career plan, it’s all about instant results.

I love all formats, T20 the least and I’m 32… I do really enjoy a good one dayer, but test cricket all day long for me
Yes maybe it's a generational thing, but I was brought up at the time when every home England test was broadcast on the BBC, and a 5 or even 6 match test series against the touring teams was the real highlight of your summer, and in these days you'd have say Australia or the West Indies arriving in late April/early May, and playing several matches against various counties, usually the reigning county champions, but also a few other games between tests, so even if you couldn't get to a test match, then you could still enjoy the likes of Viv Richards showcasing his talents at the smaller venues, and this also allowed the visiting side to properly acclimatise to the conditions, whereas now most test sides fly in, play at most one warm-up match, normally against fairly moderate opposition, and they are then expected to face Jimmy at Edgbaston, or Cummins at Sydney, and this probably explains why there's very few away sides that win a test series these days.

What excites me about the 1st morning of a test is the unpredictability, who would have imagined India would be rolled over for 78 at Headingly when they choose to bat, or Ireland skittling England for 85 at Lords a couple of years ago, and yet England comfortably winning the game in the end.

The one day stuff is fine to an extent, but it's relatively straightforward to analyse, and you know prior to the 1st ball that a given side will bat for a set period, before their opponents do the same, and you generally get a fair idea of how it'll finish quite early in the match, with a test match there's always that element of doubt for the whole 5 days, and generally no 2 days are the same, one day could see a clatter of wickets, or huge runs scored, the following day can easily see fortunes reversed, and that for me is what makes the 5 day game intriguing to follow.
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Re: England v India 5th test

Post by Longsidelenny1882 » Fri Sep 10, 2021 8:59 pm

Very good post tiger upthecolne

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Post by Local cricketer » Fri Sep 10, 2021 10:23 pm

And now the mental health card is been played. The ECB have rolled over and let the BCCi tickle their bellies

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Re: England v India 5th test

Post by tiger76 » Sat Sep 11, 2021 4:00 pm

Interesting development Biarstow, Malan & Woakes have withdrawn from the IPLhttps://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/58529148

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