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by jdrobbo » Sat Oct 02, 2021 5:49 pm
Kevin Friend (Leicestershire) v Norwich City
How to Score
A. Decision Making (including use of advantage) - out of 25
B. Consistency - out of 25
C. Fitness and Positioning - of 25
D. Control and Authority - out of 25
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by Woodleyclaret » Sat Oct 02, 2021 5:56 pm
Absolute shite
6 stonewall penalties denied us and a blatant stamp on Josh was a straight red
How the trip on Charlie as he ran past the full back was not a penalty was outrageous and Friend even booked the guy for the foul but it wasn't given as a penalty
Was VAR turned off today there were dozens of bad decisions by Friend worthy of a revue
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by Lowbankclaret » Sat Oct 02, 2021 5:58 pm
I thought he was ok apart from when he made a decision.
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by RVclaret » Sat Oct 02, 2021 5:58 pm
Woodleyclaret wrote: ↑Sat Oct 02, 2021 5:56 pm
Absolute shite
6 stonewall penalties denied us and a blatant stamp on Josh was a straight red
How the trip on Charlie as he ran past the full back was not a penalty was outrageous and Friend even booked the guy for the foul but it wasn't given as a penalty
Was VAR turned off today there were dozens of bad decisions by Friend worthy of a revue
You must be the most biased Burnley fan I’ve ever come across - well played.
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by jdrobbo » Sat Oct 02, 2021 5:59 pm
I’m going to try and do this as rationally as possible…
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by Buxtonclaret » Sat Oct 02, 2021 6:03 pm
Never do the ratings on here partly because of thinking that refs have a thankless task.
Friend really is a poor ref though.
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by Rowls » Sat Oct 02, 2021 6:05 pm
He was about as bad as it is possible to be in the first half.
We really should have had 2 or 3 penalties in the first half.
The first (the punch) doesn't need discussing except for whether it warrants a red card or a very lenient yellow.
The trip got missed by the referee AND the linesman? How? Why? Some might claim say it is outside the box but he is clipped at least twice and the second is on the line or in the box which means this is another stonewall penalty.
As for the third (not sure I've got them in the correct order) when Hanley bundles over Vydra it's clear what has happened here. These are the kind of clear free kicks that cowardly official do not hesitate to give in the middle of the pitch. That the referee missed the easy-to-award corner (if he thought it wasn't a penalty) shows how muddled he was here. He's got into a flap because he knows it should be a penalty but he doesn't have the courage to give the correct decision and we don't even end up with getting the corner.
Don't think the one where Charlie Taylor flops to the floor is a penalty but I think the three penalties against Vydra in 1st half are all easy decisions.
How a player can be literally punched in the head and for it to go unpenalized is a disgrace. Truly, a disgrace.
Can't wait until VAR gets turned on to cut out blatant errors like this.
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by bfcjg » Sat Oct 02, 2021 6:07 pm
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A disgrace.
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by Lowbankclaret » Sat Oct 02, 2021 6:14 pm
I thought my scores were low?
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by Rileybobs » Sat Oct 02, 2021 6:16 pm
That was quite frankly appalling officiating.
Can I forgive Friend for not seeing Vydra get punched in the face whilst 6 feet in the air? If that was his only error then maybe I could. But how in this world can somebody reviewing it on a TV monitor look at that and not award a penalty, not to mention a red card.
The trip on Vydra was about as clear as it gets, yet again this was inexcusably waved away. I was actually very confident in both cases that the VAR would give the decision, but it’s impossible for me to have any faith at all in the system when such clear and obvious refereeing errors are not overturned.
I think Taylor dived in the second half, although was tripped outside the box, so that was the correct decision as was the challenge on Vydra by Hanley.
He totally lost the plot in the first half and that is one of the reasons for the ridiculous number of yellow cards that were shown in what was a relatively mild mannered game.
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by Bosscat » Sat Oct 02, 2021 6:17 pm
Zero's in every category
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by Rowls » Sat Oct 02, 2021 6:18 pm
Rileybobs wrote: ↑Sat Oct 02, 2021 6:16 pm
That was quite frankly appalling officiating.
Can I forgive Friend for not seeing Vydra get punched in the face whilst 6 feet in the air? If that was his only error then maybe I could. But how in this world can somebody reviewing it on a TV monitor look at that and not award a penalty, not to mention a red card.
The trip on Vydra was about as clear as it gets, yet again this was inexcusably waved away. I was actually very confident in both cases that the VAR would give the decision, but it’s impossible for me to have any faith at all in the system when such clear and obvious refereeing errors are not overturned?
I think Taylor dived in the second half, although was tripped outside the box, so that was the correct decision as was the challenge on Vydra by Hanley.
He totally lost the plot in the first half and that is one of the reasons for the ridiculous number of yellow cards that were shown in what was a relatively mild mannered game.
100% agreement.
Wasn't at the match today. It's not like the camera angles didn't capture these fouls with crystal clear footage. To have somebody rubber stamping these errors is beyond words right now for me.
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by MACCA » Sat Oct 02, 2021 6:19 pm
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by Bordeauxclaret » Sat Oct 02, 2021 6:20 pm
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As bad as it gets and I still remember the Jones/Oliver farce.
Someone talk me through the 2 mins added time at the end?
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by Beagle » Sat Oct 02, 2021 6:25 pm
Bordeauxclaret wrote: ↑Sat Oct 02, 2021 6:20 pm
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As bad as it gets and I still remember the Jones/Oliver farce.
Someone talk me through the 2 mins added time at the end?
Utterly ridiculous. All that time wasting, not to mention five subs in the second half, and it comes to just two minutes stoppage time. I’m sure he just wanted to get it over with, his body language suggested as much throughout the last 10 minutes. Probably because of all the totally justified stick he was getting for his atrocious refereeing.
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by Rileybobs » Sat Oct 02, 2021 6:26 pm
Rowls wrote: ↑Sat Oct 02, 2021 6:18 pm
100% agreement.
Wasn't at the match today. It's not like the camera angles didn't capture these fouls with crystal clear footage. To have somebody rubber stamping these errors is beyond words right now for me.
I’ve just watched the highlights and it appears that the Vydra trip was outside the box - so I may have to retract my opinion on that one. Although it was still criminal to not award the FK.
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by Rileybobs » Sat Oct 02, 2021 6:27 pm
The punch looks worse the more times you see it.
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by ClaretTony » Sat Oct 02, 2021 6:28 pm
Woodleyclaret wrote: ↑Sat Oct 02, 2021 5:56 pm
Absolute shite
6 stonewall penalties denied us and a blatant stamp on Josh was a straight red
How the trip on Charlie as he ran past the full back was not a penalty was outrageous and Friend even booked the guy for the foul but it wasn't given as a penalty
Was VAR turned off today there were dozens of bad decisions by Friend worthy of a revue
For what it's worth I didn't think that was a pen and he booked the Norwich player for remonstrating over Taylor diving.
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by Leyland Claret » Sat Oct 02, 2021 6:29 pm
He had a terrible game but the worst of all his bad decisions was only playing 2 mins extra at the end. That just rubbed salt in the already open wounds
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by Lowbankclaret » Sat Oct 02, 2021 6:30 pm
Bordeauxclaret wrote: ↑Sat Oct 02, 2021 6:20 pm
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As bad as it gets and I still remember the Jones/Oliver farce.
Someone talk me through the 2 mins added time at the end?
There were 5 substitutes at 30 seconds each and then several injuries. Think he support Norwich
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by Rowls » Sat Oct 02, 2021 6:30 pm
Rileybobs wrote: ↑Sat Oct 02, 2021 6:26 pm
I’ve just watched the highlights and it appears that the Vydra trip was outside the box - so I may have to retract my opinion on that one. Although it was still criminal to not award the FK.
It's not a 'clean' trip: It continues into the box or at very least on the line so I do not see why it shouldn't be given as a penalty.
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by ClaretTony » Sat Oct 02, 2021 6:31 pm
That's the worst performance I've seen this season
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by Rowls » Sat Oct 02, 2021 6:31 pm
ClaretTony wrote: ↑Sat Oct 02, 2021 6:28 pm
For what it's worth I didn't think that was a pen and he booked the Norwich player for remonstrating over Taylor diving.
Not so much remonstrating as waving an imaginary card which is an automatic booking. One of the very few things he got right today.
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by Sproggy » Sat Oct 02, 2021 6:32 pm
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by RVclaret » Sat Oct 02, 2021 6:33 pm
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by Rileybobs » Sat Oct 02, 2021 6:34 pm
How can he possibly score more than a 0 for control and authority when he allowed Tim Krul to dictate the length of the game.
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by Vintage Claret » Sat Oct 02, 2021 6:35 pm
Thought he was excellent until he blew the whistle to start the game then he was his usual self.
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by Boss Hogg » Sat Oct 02, 2021 6:36 pm
Dreadful performance from a dreadful referee. Ruined the first half for me.
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by gawthorpe_view » Sat Oct 02, 2021 6:51 pm
With friends like that, who needs enemies?
ICBA marking his performance.
Probably the worst refereeing performance I've seen in the Premier League.
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by beddie » Sat Oct 02, 2021 7:06 pm
He likes himself though doesn’t he. Look at me, Look at me. He needs to sit down and watch Mike Dean referee a game, he might learn something.
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by jmu1 » Sat Oct 02, 2021 7:08 pm
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by MT03ALG » Sat Oct 02, 2021 7:10 pm
I am in a generous mood so:
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This was the worst refereeing performance i have seen in 64 years of watching Burnley games and thousands of other games. A referee who cannot even time a game is no good. The record of 3 fouls given against Norwich in 96 minutes is totally laughable and incomprehensible. Seriously, was this referee bribed/leant on and if so by whom ?
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by Grumps » Sat Oct 02, 2021 7:14 pm
Looking forward to Ashington coming and defending that performance..... Book the goalie for time wasting after you've told him 3 times... He won't do it again.... Misses a definite pen, but what are VAR doing?.... When was the last time there was only 2 mins extra time in the 2nd half of any Premier league game?
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by IanMcL » Sat Oct 02, 2021 7:29 pm
B'tard through and through.
The loudest, "You're not fit to referee" I have heard.
I would happily have thumped him.
Cheating b'tard.
No mark gets no marks.
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by MDWat » Sat Oct 02, 2021 8:01 pm
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by Noblelight » Sat Oct 02, 2021 8:26 pm
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by Noblelight » Sat Oct 02, 2021 8:28 pm
I think this is the first time I have rated the ref. I don’t like to moan about them as it’s a hard job, but I thought he was absolutely useless
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by ClaretTony » Sat Oct 02, 2021 8:29 pm
Grumps wrote: ↑Sat Oct 02, 2021 7:14 pm
When was the last time there was only 2 mins extra time in the 2nd half of any Premier league game?
That's a good question - it's nearly always 4 or 5 when nothing much has happened.
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by Grumps » Sat Oct 02, 2021 8:35 pm
ClaretTony wrote: ↑Sat Oct 02, 2021 8:29 pm
That's a good question - it's nearly always 4 or 5 when nothing much has happened.
Glad to see you back reading my posts
I cannot bring one to mind... 5 subs takes it over 2 to start with.
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by RMutt » Sat Oct 02, 2021 8:36 pm
Is it still thirty seconds for a substitution?
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by Vino blanco » Sat Oct 02, 2021 8:40 pm
All the Benalmádena Clarets before the game said he would give us nothing at all. He seemed to get worse as the game went on, awful. However, I can’t blame him for our poor performance against a very poor team.
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by Rileybobs » Sat Oct 02, 2021 8:40 pm
Grumps wrote: ↑Sat Oct 02, 2021 8:35 pm
Glad to see you back reading my posts
I cannot bring one to mind... 5 subs takes it over 2 to start with.
Not quite true as we made a sub at the same time as Norwich, and did they also make a double sub? Either way, 2 minutes was a joke considering the constant time wasting which Friend acknowledged.
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by Aclaret » Sat Oct 02, 2021 8:47 pm
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Time to hang your whistle up Mr Friend