Yorkshire Ccc

[LordBob]

Forgive the spelling but the Sharma Kameez is a religious garment the way you might see a Priest wear a cassock and stole in church, in a church not on the street every day THIS IS WHAT I AM , this is unusual to have these discussions these days generally anyone that isn't under control is taken down.

[fidelcastro]

Forgive the spelling but the Sharma Kameez is a religious garment the way you might see a Priest wear a cassock and stole in church, in a church not on the street every day THIS IS WHAT I AM , this is unusual to have these discussions these days generally anyone that isn't under control is taken down.

Yeah, sounds really extreme does that.

[TheFamilyCat]

I was about to turn in but I'm having second thoughts now.

[fidelcastro]

I was about to turn in but I'm having second thoughts now.

May as well have some fun before the thread is pulled.

[Andreshotboots]

A pal of mine played County cricket for Yorkshire the same time as I played a bit of County stuff and he was absolutely bullied by the "capped players" in the early 90's. So much so that he ended up leaving for another County and it basically ruined his career.

He was an exceptionally talented quick bowler too. Yorkshire, and the old "set in their ways" attitude were renowned for it on the scene even 30 plus years ago..

[LordBob]

I was about to turn in but I'm having second thoughts now.

I'd go to bed and dream about the 7, the real issues won't be faced until it's too late. 400 today 530 yesyerday.

[fidelcastro]

I'd go to bed and dream about the 7, the real issues won't be faced until it's too late. 400 today 530 yesyerday.

Are these the covid daily death figures?

[LordBob]

May as well have some fun before the thread is pulled.

ha ha sleep well Cuba King!

[TheFamilyCat]

I'd go to bed and dream about the 7, the real issues won't be faced until it's too late. 400 today 530 yesyerday.

That's Numberwang!

[Elizabeth]

May as well have some fun before the thread is pulled.

False superiority

[LordBob]

A pal of mine played County cricket for Yorkshire the same time as I played a bit of County stuff and he was absolutely bullied by the "capped players" in the early 90's. So much so that he ended up leaving for another County and it basically ruined his career.

He was an exceptionally talented quick bowler too. Yorkshire, and the old "set in their ways" attitude were renowned for it on the scene even 30 plus years ago..

I understand that, the pro's teaching the kids like the walk of initiation and I believe Yorkshire CC would be more ' do as eh sey lad' than most, My brother was a carpentry apprentice and he was in the same class as Eddie Cliff, Burnley FC apprentice Eddie reckoned Brian O'Neil was the worst Eddie was held down while his 'too long' hair was cut off. I think it was as it was, no malice, it didn't harm Eddie.

[Untinted Glasses]

I'm just fed up of hearing about these race rows throughout the world. Ah poor you. Imagine being the victim of it!

Most people I know if not all are sick to death of the BLM take a knee, there not racists at all. Well done on the survey. I could have guessed your indepth survey outcome purely by the way you spelt "they are"

It's absolutely crazy what is happening and people just seem blind/ignorant to it. This nails it. Get a dictionary. Look up irony. Then look up ignorant.

I actually have been a victim of it. During my time at Burnley college we were regularly set upon by groups of asians. On one occasion more Asians were called from outside and lads in our class were dragged out of the classrooms and beat up by around 40 Asians whilst being called White bastards. On one occasion right outside the staff door, who incidently chose to lock their door.
Many times walking the corridors a white lass was spat on and called a white bitch.

So yes poor me has been a part of it, sadly on the side that no one wants to hear about. Its almost taboo to mention it

[claretonthecoast1882]

Briefly I thought that Yorkshire CC would possibly be regretting their actions as sponsor after sponsor withdraws from sullying their name with the club, but I actually don't think they are arsed.

[Andreshotboots]

Briefly I thought that Yorkshire CC would possibly be regretting their actions as sponsor after sponsor withdraws from sullying their name with the club, but I actually don't think they are arsed.

They’re based is in Leeds, what do you expect. They’re just morons with cricket shirts on instead of football ones..

[JohnDearyMe]

Hats off to Azeem Rafiq for his brave and tenacious stand.

Will be interesting to see how individuals and the club itself are punished.

[TheFamilyCat]

Hats off to Azeem Rafiq for his brave and tenacious stand.

Will be interesting to see how individuals and the club itself are punished.

Yes, I've read a lot of comments about points deductions etc and comparisons to punishments other counties have had for various offences. I guess there isn't an "off-the-shelf" punishment for this so what is deemed appropriate (financial, points deductions or other sanctions) will certainly be interesting.

[Andreshotboots]

3 points or a race awareness course..

[claretonthecoast1882]

Ballance fined and banned

The board resign from the positions

The club stripped of test status for a period

This seems a good starting point

[Andreshotboots]

Ballance fined and banned

The board resign from the positions

The club stripped of test status for a period

This seems a good starting point

Agree with those apart from the Test status. It's not a supporters issue so it seems harsh to not to allow then the chance of watching Test cricket due to racist idiots at the club. Personally, I have travelled to Leeds on several occasions when there's not been a test at OT.

Maybe allow tests to continue as scheduled, but make them donate 75% of tickets sales to the cricket equivalent of "kick it out", or something along those lines.

[Lancasterclaret]

Great thread

I just love those who think they haven't got an issue being so completely unaware that they have

[JohnDearyMe]

Ballance fined and banned

The board resign from the positions

The club stripped of test status for a period

This seems a good starting point

Wonder whether Ballance will end up having his contract terminated?

[claretonthecoast1882]

Wonder whether Ballance will end up having his contract terminated?

Some of the clubs recent conduct would have you wondering if they might extend his contract

[fidelcastro]

I actually have been a victim of it. During my time at Burnley college we were regularly set upon by groups of asians. On one occasion more Asians were called from outside and lads in our class were dragged out of the classrooms and beat up by around 40 Asians whilst being called White bastards. On one occasion right outside the staff door, who incidently chose to lock their door.
Many times walking the corridors a white lass was spat on and called a white bitch.

So yes poor me has been a part of it, sadly on the side that no one wants to hear about. Its almost taboo to mention it

Presumably you reported these dreadful incidents to the police, so the perpetrators could be arrested and charged, right?

[TheFamilyCat]

Agree with those apart from the Test status. It's not a supporters issue so it seems harsh to not to allow then the chance of watching Test cricket due to racist idiots at the club. Personally, I have travelled to Leeds on several occasions when there's not been a test at OT.

Maybe allow tests to continue as scheduled, but make them donate 75% of tickets sales to the cricket equivalent of "kick it out", or something along those lines.

I've seen a few people suggesting they should be stripped of international matched with the counter argument being that local fans would suffer through no fault of their own. Making them donate from the income would seem to be a good solution.

[Stayingup]

Is being called a pommie b@st@rd racist then in todays sanitized 'I want to be offended world' ?

[jackmiggins]

I’d say that I’m devastated that YCC have acted in this way as I am a true Yorkie. However, my experience of them is that they are pompous, privileged ****holes. About time that they became a sporting academy - open to all.

[Colburn_Claret]

The stats on how many Asians play minor league cricket, across the country, compared to how many make it as professionals is amazing, if true.
They quoted yesterday something like 90% of grass roots cricketers are Asians compared to 2% of professionals.

[RicardoMontalban]

Is being called a pommie b@st@rd racist then in todays sanitized 'I want to be offended world' ?

On a basic level no. While certainly unpleasant, racist it isn’t as it’s not referring to one’s race. Then there’s an issue of context of the situation which you’ve not offered any illumination on.

But enough of the whataboutary. The issue here is that the report has concluded that Azeem Rafiq was racially abused. YCCC then doubled down as saying “but it was all bants”. But it wasn’t and I think most clear headed people can spot that.

[Claretincraven]

Is calling a Zimbabwean Zimbo racist?
Just wondering.

[AlargeClaret]

Of all sports I always feel cricket has always been the most “ racist free”’ as big cricket nations from India /Windies /Paks etc were naturally made up of their own nationals . I can’t think of another sport where “ whites” compete directly against “ black brown “ without even an iota of ill feeling . I remember Clive Lloyd living in Heald Green with his big purple door and being lionised by the young kids . Yorkshire CCC deserve all the grief they get if if they’ve brushed this under the carpet

[Devils_Advocate]

Is calling a Zimbabwean Zimbo racist?
Just wondering.

If you dont understand the difference between calling someone a Paki and calling someone a Zimbo then you are either very ignorant or you are deliberately feigning ignorance to try and defend racism. I hope its the former because ignorance isnt completely your own fault.

Just for context the term Paki first came into use in 60's in the Uk and from the offset was commonly used as a slur against Pakistani and other east Asian people and by 70's and 80's the term became even more synonymous with racist and violent groups. Second and third generation Pakistani people have seen their parents and themselves abused, attacked and treated horribly simply because of their race and the use of the term Paki as a racial slur has gone hand in hand with this behaviour

If people dont understand why context is important think how you would react to people calling a disabled person a spaz as in short for spastic and would you think shortening that word is no different to calling someone a Zimbo

[Bigbopper]

Rafiq may have been better keeping his mouth shut in the interest of diversity. Does that sound familiar

[brexit]

another non-footballing thread with political views and overt racism and yet on other threads you can be banned for pointing out Dyche is ginger- inconsistent mods

[jackmiggins]

Difficult to assess insults. I’ve had them as I’m half Greek, but they haven’t affected me as they’ve only been given due to jealousy (as I perceive it). Really think this is a very deep question, which relates to perceptions and people’s upbringing.

[RingoMcCartney]

Rafiq may have been better keeping his mouth shut in the interest of diversity. Does that sound familiar

You may have a point. "Cultural sensitivities" and "community cohesion" don't appear to have been at the forefront of his mind.....

[onewillieirvine]

Nike have now withdrawn as their kit supplier. I would imagine a few may have to fall on their sword here.

[Bordeauxclaret]

Just terrible.

The original treatment plus the awful way it’s been handled by Yorkshire since.
You wouldn’t want them running a bath.

[Lancasterclaret]

Just terrible.

The original treatment plus the awful way it’s been handled by Yorkshire since.
You wouldn’t want them running a bath.

Unless its a bath being driven down a hill by three old blokes

[Lowbankclaret]

Is being called a pommie b@st@rd racist then in todays sanitized 'I want to be offended world' ?

Yes it is!

[ClaretTony]

Yorkshire have been suspended from hosting international or major cricket matches. Nothing said how long that suspension is.

[Lowbankclaret]

If you dont understand the difference between calling someone a Paki and calling someone a Zimbo then you are either very ignorant or you are deliberately feigning ignorance to try and defend racism. I hope its the former because ignorance isnt completely your own fault.

Just for context the term Paki first came into use in 60's in the Uk and from the offset was commonly used as a slur against Pakistani and other east Asian people and by 70's and 80's the term became even more synonymous with racist and violent groups. Second and third generation Pakistani people have seen their parents and themselves abused, attacked and treated horribly simply because of their race and the use of the term Paki as a racial slur has gone hand in hand with this behaviour

If people dont understand why context is important think how you would react to people calling a disabled person a spaz as in short for spastic and would you think shortening that word is no different to calling someone a Zimbo

It an interesting subject, people probably know who I worked for and banter was just about banned about 15 years ago. My mother a Head teacher of a Manchester school kept telling me we were 10 years behind schools.
But most of us cannot keep up with it all. Two years ago I took my mum who is now 78 but still working with two Manchester schools for a hospital appointment.
There was an Asian lady sat in the waiting room and me and mum were having a conversation , cannot remember what about . But I said the word Pakistani and the Asian lady moved seats farther away. My mum immediately said that word is now racist and must not be used. I must use of Asian origin in future.
When she went in for her appointment I apologised to the lady and we had a bit of chat before her appointment.

I struggle to keep up on what I can use and what I cannot but it appears even Pakistani is no longer allowed.

[Rileybobs]

It an interesting subject, people probably know who I worked for and banter was just about banned about 15 years ago. My mother a Head teacher of a Manchester school kept telling me we were 10 years behind schools.
But most of us cannot keep up with it all. Two years ago I took my mum who is now 78 but still working with two Manchester schools for a hospital appointment.
There was an Asian lady sat in the waiting room and me and mum were having a conversation , cannot remember what about . But I said the word Pakistani and the Asian lady moved seats farther away. My mum immediately said that word is now racist and must not be used. I must use of Asian origin in future.
When she went in for her appointment I apologised to the lady and we had a bit of chat before her appointment.

I struggle to keep up on what I can use and what I cannot but it appears even Pakistani is no longer allowed.

Of course the word Pakistani is allowed - if of course you’re speaking about a Pakistani. If you’re talking about someone else of ‘Asian origin’, and that includes British people with Pakistani heritage then nobody is stopping you from using it, but you’d be incorrect.

[Devils_Advocate]

It an interesting subject, people probably know who I worked for and banter was just about banned about 15 years ago. My mother a Head teacher of a Manchester school kept telling me we were 10 years behind schools.
But most of us cannot keep up with it all. Two years ago I took my mum who is now 78 but still working with two Manchester schools for a hospital appointment.
There was an Asian lady sat in the waiting room and me and mum were having a conversation , cannot remember what about . But I said the word Pakistani and the Asian lady moved seats farther away. My mum immediately said that word is now racist and must not be used. I must use of Asian origin in future.
When she went in for her appointment I apologised to the lady and we had a bit of chat before her appointment.

I struggle to keep up on what I can use and what I cannot but it appears even Pakistani is no longer allowed.

Apart from your anecdotal story (they often get shown up to be you making stuff up) is there any evidence that you are not allowed to use the word Pakistani?

Please tell me you are such an ignoramus that you don't understand why the term Paki is considered an offensive racial slur?

[TheFamilyCat]

Yorkshire have been suspended from hosting international or major cricket matches. Nothing said how long that suspension is.

Until they can prove they meet the standards required, apparently. With around six months until they are due to host one, I suspect the ban will have been served.

Unless they actually reallocate the games to other grounds and transfer tickets it feels like a bit of an empty gesture.

[Bordeauxclaret]

Until they can prove they meet the standards required, apparently. With around six months until they are due to host one, I suspect the ban will have been served.

Unless they actually reallocate the games to other grounds and transfer tickets it feels like a bit of an empty gesture.

I can’t see them holding games this summer.
They’ll have to get them rearranged now I would guess.

[Lowbankclaret]

Apart from your anecdotal story (they often get shown up to be you making stuff up) is there any evidence that you are not allowed to use the word Pakistani?

Please tell me you are such an ignoramus that you don't understand why the term Paki is considered an offensive racial slur?

I havnt used the abbreviation for years as it’s obviously racist and I am not even going to type it, However I am told it’s now racist to use the full term and only use “of Asian origin”
Just saying, people might be surprised if they get pulled up for saying it.

[Lowbankclaret]

Of course the word Pakistani is allowed - if of course you’re speaking about a Pakistani. If you’re talking about someone else of ‘Asian origin’, and that includes British people with Pakistani heritage then nobody is stopping you from using it, but you’d be incorrect.

I humbly suggest your not right up with the times, it should not be used.

[fidelcastro]

I havnt used the abbreviation for years as it’s obviously racist and I am not even going to type it, However I am told it’s now racist to use the full term and only use “of Asian origin”
Just saying, people might be surprised if they get pulled up for saying it.

I wouldn't be surprised if I was pulled up because the person pulling me up wasn't Pakistani.

[TheFamilyCat]

I havnt used the abbreviation for years as it’s obviously racist and I am not even going to type it, However I am told it’s now racist to use the full term and only use “of Asian origin”
Just saying, people might be surprised if they get pulled up for saying it.

Maybe when their actual nationality is unknown. I'm no expert on the history of the region but I think calling an Indian a Pakistani and vice versa can cause offence.

[TheFamilyCat]

Gary Ballance suspended from England selection. Although he'd already seen to that by being shite.