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by Venkys4eva » Thu Dec 30, 2021 7:55 pm
BurnleyFC wrote: ↑Thu Dec 30, 2021 7:54 pm
That starting line up is pretty frightening.
Definitely! Man u will be s******g themselves

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by Espia » Thu Dec 30, 2021 7:56 pm
Lennon! Oh my God...hope his legs have good muscle memory. No worries, we can bring Stephens on for him in the 2nd half. That'll have them quaking in their boots.
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by Norman » Thu Dec 30, 2021 7:56 pm
BurnleyFC wrote: ↑Thu Dec 30, 2021 7:54 pm
That starting line up is pretty frightening.
Which part?
1. Hennessey has done brilliant for us
2. First 11 starting defence
3. Arguably, first 11 starting midfield.
4. Which leaves Lennon instead of Cornet.
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by fidelcastro » Thu Dec 30, 2021 7:56 pm
BurnleyFC wrote: ↑Thu Dec 30, 2021 7:54 pm
That starting line up is pretty frightening.
No it isn't. I would say that nine of those would get in most people's best eleven.
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by boatshed bill » Thu Dec 30, 2021 7:57 pm
I have a prior engagement tonight so will miss the game.
Hope you all get some enjoyment from it.
C O Y C
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by Spijed » Thu Dec 30, 2021 7:58 pm
Lennon is a youngster compared to Ronaldo!

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by Newcastleclaret93 » Thu Dec 30, 2021 7:58 pm
Norman wrote: ↑Thu Dec 30, 2021 7:56 pm
Which part?
1. Hennessey has done brilliant for us
2. First 11 starting defence
3. Arguably, first 11 starting midfield.
4. Which leaves Lennon instead of Cornet.
Because of all the points you just said haha.
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by Norman » Thu Dec 30, 2021 7:58 pm
fidelcastro wrote: ↑Thu Dec 30, 2021 7:56 pm
No it isn't. I would say that nine of those would get in most people's best eleven.
My point further up. Cornet comes in for Lennon, Pope comes in. The other is simply whether Brownhill comes in.
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by Norman » Thu Dec 30, 2021 7:59 pm
Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 30, 2021 7:58 pm
Because of all the points you just said haha.
Eh? 2 of those points is that we have our strongest defence and midfield.
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by BurnleyFC » Thu Dec 30, 2021 7:59 pm
Norman wrote: ↑Thu Dec 30, 2021 7:56 pm
Which part?
1. Hennessey has done brilliant for us
2. First 11 starting defence
3. Arguably, first 11 starting midfield.
4. Which leaves Lennon instead of Cornet.
Formation as well as personnel.
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by RVclaret » Thu Dec 30, 2021 7:59 pm
Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 30, 2021 7:49 pm
On the plus side. Burnley to win and Lennon to score at 50-1
Could be worth a cheeky tenner
What’s odds on Lennon crossing the half way line?
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by Conroy92 » Thu Dec 30, 2021 7:59 pm
Big performances needed from Cork and Westwood today. Can't help but feel United's formation leave them weak defensively. Good press on Matic and McTominay could see us reap rewards. 4-5-1 could be the change up needed. Feeling positive. COYC.
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by wilks_bfc » Thu Dec 30, 2021 7:59 pm
ksrclaret wrote: ↑Thu Dec 30, 2021 7:54 pm
Please no
FFS Dyche
Said it’s a role he’s played before
I wouldn’t be surprised to see him & Dwight switch around though
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by Norman » Thu Dec 30, 2021 8:00 pm
BurnleyFC wrote: ↑Thu Dec 30, 2021 7:59 pm
Formation as well as personnel.
Formation seems to be 4-4-2... which we pretty much always play.
And if it's 4-5-1... even better. Away to Man United makes sense.
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by Newcastleclaret93 » Thu Dec 30, 2021 8:00 pm
Norman wrote: ↑Thu Dec 30, 2021 7:59 pm
Eh? 2 of those points is that we have our strongest defence and midfield.
Exactly an already weak team, weakened considerably with two further players
If anything we needed to be at full strength with a strong bench. We now have neither
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by Buxtonclaret » Thu Dec 30, 2021 8:00 pm
Evening All.
Another raid on Mold Trafford. Three points to end the year.
COME ON UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU CLARETS!!
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by Norman » Thu Dec 30, 2021 8:01 pm
Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 30, 2021 8:00 pm
Exactly an already weak team, weakened considerably with two further players
If anything we needed to be at full strength with a strong bench. We now have neither
What do you mean exactly? You said 2 of my points (selecting our best defence and midfield) were a reason why the starting 11 was so weak - didn't make any sense.
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by alboclaret » Thu Dec 30, 2021 8:02 pm
jedi_master wrote: ↑Thu Dec 30, 2021 7:51 pm
It’s not about the PL, nor a conspiracy theory.
It’s about clubs bending the rules to suit them when key players have gotten knocks, and is not doing.
You’re quite right - if I am correct in my assessment, I am as mad at Dyche as I am at Howe and Benitez, but for the opposite. The old adage ‘if you can’t beat them, join them’ has never been more true than right now. We are on an absolute precipice (potentially of financial ruin after relegation, we will see) and I would have hoped our manager would ‘play the game’ like our rivals are clearly willing to do.
Dyche is a stubborn guy, playing this game tonight for him is something I think he will see as a badge of honour (I.e, “See, my squad is tiny - but we were never asking for this off like some would” etc). Unfortunately, IF we get tubbed, that ‘honourable’ intention will look laughable.
Just my thoughts.
Or he thinks utd are in a bad place rightnow and it's best time to play them instead of towards the end of the season where we might already be down.
Utd were very poor at Newcastle. Any sort of performance like that tonight gives us a chance with only 2 of our strongest 11 missing.
Also he might think the lads need a game before a big one on Sunday...
They are my thoughts
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by warksclaret » Thu Dec 30, 2021 8:02 pm
SD saying Lennon to play the No 10 role. Imagine Vydra's confidence right now
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by Espia » Thu Dec 30, 2021 8:03 pm
Don't forget, SD is pretty happy with this current group of squad players, which given that we're drawing on the services of a 'has been '; and a player in Stephens that never was; and then Thomas and Norris on the bench, I find that astonishing.
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by Kazoo » Thu Dec 30, 2021 8:03 pm
bfcjg wrote: ↑Thu Dec 30, 2021 7:54 pm
If we get something from this game with that team we will stay up.
Agreed, we can win this. Also looking ahead to Leeds which can also win. Not worried at all at the moment, plus Newcastle are crap. #COYC
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by Newcastleclaret93 » Thu Dec 30, 2021 8:03 pm
Norman wrote: ↑Thu Dec 30, 2021 8:01 pm
What do you mean exactly? You said 2 of my points (selecting our best defence and midfield) were a reason why the starting 11 was so weak - didn't make any sense.
I am highlighting that two players taken out of an already poor team makes this starting eleven incredibly weak.
However I think United are in such a bad spot mentally, we might be able to get something here
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by warksclaret » Thu Dec 30, 2021 8:04 pm
alboclaret wrote: ↑Thu Dec 30, 2021 8:02 pm
Or he thinks utd are in a bad place rightnow and it's best time to play them instead of towards the end of the season where we might already be down.
Utd were very poor at Newcastle. Any sort of performance like that tonight gives us a chance with only 2 of our strongest 11 missing.
Also he might think the lads need a game before a big one on Sunday...
They are my thoughts
I am with Jedi on this one-we are seeing the stubborness of SD, probably making a point about squad weakness
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by PadihamThickNeck » Thu Dec 30, 2021 8:04 pm
I’ll be happy if we can keep it under 4.
Manchester United 6 Burnley 0
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by derryclaret » Thu Dec 30, 2021 8:05 pm
Evening all, hard to see us getting anything tonight but we live in hope.UTC
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by 1968claret » Thu Dec 30, 2021 8:06 pm
Come on Burnley. Going to need a real Backs to the Wall effort from the boys tonight!
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by jedi_master » Thu Dec 30, 2021 8:06 pm
alboclaret wrote: ↑Thu Dec 30, 2021 8:02 pm
Or he thinks utd are in a bad place rightnow and it's best time to play them instead of towards the end of the season where we might already be down.
Utd were very poor at Newcastle. Any sort of performance like that tonight gives us a chance with only 2 of our strongest 11 missing.
Also he might think the lads need a game before a big one on Sunday...
They are my thoughts
All fair points!
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by SalisburyClaret » Thu Dec 30, 2021 8:06 pm
warksclaret wrote: ↑Thu Dec 30, 2021 8:02 pm
SD saying Lennon to play the No 10 role. Imagine Vydra's confidence right now
Got to have a forward to bring on - there’s no one else
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by Newcastleclaret93 » Thu Dec 30, 2021 8:06 pm
Has Dyche said anything about Cornet? Was sure he would be at least on the bench
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by Safron » Thu Dec 30, 2021 8:07 pm
If we are going to play with a no 10 the best player for that position is surely Dwight?
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by fidelcastro » Thu Dec 30, 2021 8:07 pm
Norman wrote: ↑Thu Dec 30, 2021 7:59 pm
Eh? 2 of those points is that we have our strongest defence and midfield.
Yes Frank.
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by jedi_master » Thu Dec 30, 2021 8:08 pm
Norwich v Leicester on NYD just called off.
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by Norman » Thu Dec 30, 2021 8:08 pm
Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 30, 2021 8:06 pm
Has Dyche said anything about Cornet? Was sure he would be at least on the bench
I was expecting the same. He's had and recovered from Covid, but as he wasn't in the training photos you could probably put 2 and 2 together and suggest he's not trained enough to be risked.
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by Goddy » Thu Dec 30, 2021 8:09 pm
SalisburyClaret wrote: ↑Thu Dec 30, 2021 8:06 pm
Got to have a forward to bring on - there’s no one else
Maybe Lennon there to try and keep it tight fir 70 mins then let Vyds loose on a tiring defence....wishful, foolhardy thinking, maybe.....?
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by jedi_master » Thu Dec 30, 2021 8:09 pm
Norman wrote: ↑Thu Dec 30, 2021 8:08 pm
I was expecting the same. He's had and recovered from Covid, but as he wasn't in the training photos you could probably put 2 and 2 together and suggest he's not trained enough to be risked.
If he has even the slightest chance of Leeds I’m happy to see him not out there tonight to be honest.
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by SalisburyClaret » Thu Dec 30, 2021 8:09 pm
Goddy wrote: ↑Thu Dec 30, 2021 8:09 pm
Maybe Lennon there to try and keep it tight fir 70 mins then let Vyds loose on a tiring defence....wishful, foolhardy thinking, maybe.....?
It’s all we have!
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by Spijed » Thu Dec 30, 2021 8:10 pm
Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 30, 2021 8:06 pm
Has Dyche said anything about Cornet? Was sure he would be at least on the bench
What will be frustrating is if Cornet isn't even on the bench against Leeds but plays for the Ivory Coast without any problems.
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by The Enclosure » Thu Dec 30, 2021 8:10 pm
Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 30, 2021 8:06 pm
Has Dyche said anything about Cornet? Was sure he would be at least on the bench
He is on the grass, not quite there.
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by Newcastleclaret93 » Thu Dec 30, 2021 8:10 pm
Norman wrote: ↑Thu Dec 30, 2021 8:08 pm
I was expecting the same. He's had and recovered from Covid, but as he wasn't in the training photos you could probably put 2 and 2 together and suggest he's not trained enough to be risked.
I am just surprised we have held him back the extra days if that’s the case
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by warksclaret » Thu Dec 30, 2021 8:11 pm
Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 30, 2021 8:06 pm
Has Dyche said anything about Cornet? Was sure he would be at least on the bench
This is what winds me up about some of our players who go on international duty. Can see him not being available for the Leeds game (after a lengthy lay off), then he gets on the plane within 24 hours to fly to the ANC, and no doubt play every game for the Ivory Coast. It happened regularly with Brady, more recently for Roberts and to some degree JBG
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by Newcastleclaret93 » Thu Dec 30, 2021 8:11 pm
the youths on Twitter are amazed Wood is starting since he was on with Pieface at 4am this morning
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by Norman » Thu Dec 30, 2021 8:11 pm
Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 30, 2021 8:10 pm
I am just surprised we have held him back the extra days if that’s the case
I agree with that one. The best we can hope for is he makes the bench vs Leeds, as he ain't going to start a game with so little recent match time.
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by clarethomer » Thu Dec 30, 2021 8:11 pm
Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 30, 2021 8:06 pm
Has Dyche said anything about Cornet? Was sure he would be at least on the bench
Yes, he said that he is closer to returning but he’s still getting used to the premier league and he’s been unlucky by getting knocks. Needs time and to be managed carefully- or something along those lines.
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by jos » Thu Dec 30, 2021 8:12 pm
Ok, So I reckon our lads will be well up for this.
Come on you Clarets.
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by FCBurnley » Thu Dec 30, 2021 8:14 pm
Wow Woody looks NOT happy. Hope he’s just focused
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by alboclaret » Thu Dec 30, 2021 8:14 pm
I've a feeling we might have someone sent off tonight.

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by clarethomer » Thu Dec 30, 2021 8:15 pm
That’s it- unsettle them by swapping ends ha ha.
Come on you clarets!
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by wilks_bfc » Thu Dec 30, 2021 8:15 pm
Burnley players wearing black armbands
I’m assuming that’s for Jimmy Robson?
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by clarethomer » Thu Dec 30, 2021 8:15 pm
alboclaret wrote: ↑Thu Dec 30, 2021 8:14 pm
I've a feeling we might have someone sent off tonight.
Sound like the guy who sits nr me. He’s gonna be right one day
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by RVclaret » Thu Dec 30, 2021 8:17 pm
Sorry, I just don’t get the logic behind Lennon starting ahead of Vydra. Vydra must be ill or have a knock