‘We didn’t play with the edge it takes’

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Re: ‘We didn’t play with the edge it takes’

Post by Stayingup » Sun Jan 02, 2022 9:19 pm

FCBurnley wrote:
Sun Jan 02, 2022 4:44 pm
I would have more respect for him if he had just said ‘I got it wrong’
What did he get wrong? What would you have done?

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Re: ‘We didn’t play with the edge it takes’

Post by Espia » Sun Jan 02, 2022 9:20 pm

I just don't get it
..if that game was really that important Where's the passion, the gusto, the commitment, the run till you drop. It really is just lip service. Don't think anyone of them will be anguishing over today's result as much as any fan. I followed bfc home and away during the 7 year's languishing in the old division 4...but I at least saw more passion than I did today. Someone should at least have got a red card if today meant anything.

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Re: ‘We didn’t play with the edge it takes’

Post by willsclarets » Sun Jan 02, 2022 9:44 pm

MACCA wrote:
Sun Jan 02, 2022 6:04 pm
There's only ever 15k on, and 12k of them clap the taking of the knee, you've more chance of Dyche going 433.

The rot had set in last season, sadly those partly blind have only just woke up, those with 3 inch glasses on it might take until we are playing Wycombe on a Tuesday night
This sounds mental, but from sn enjoyment perspective I'd get just as much out of that than Premier league games. I don't want to see us fail obviously, but I genuinely feel like that.

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Re: ‘We didn’t play with the edge it takes’

Post by jojomk1 » Sun Jan 02, 2022 9:58 pm

Espia wrote:
Sun Jan 02, 2022 9:20 pm
I just don't get it
..if that game was really that important Where's the passion, the gusto, the commitment, the run till you drop. It really is just lip service. Don't think anyone of them will be anguishing over today's result as much as any fan. I followed bfc home and away during the 7 year's languishing in the old division 4...but I at least saw more passion than I did today. Someone should at least have got a red card if today meant anything.
Did they get a rousing pre match speech from the Messiah

The fact that this was another lifeless display was down to the manager

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Re: ‘We didn’t play with the edge it takes’

Post by Jakubclaret » Sun Jan 02, 2022 10:03 pm

tiger76 wrote:
Sun Jan 02, 2022 7:00 pm
I don't know about The Edge, but Bono could have done a better job in midfield than Cork & Westwood today. :lol:
Maybe he still hasn’t found what he’s looking for.

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Re: ‘We didn’t play with the edge it takes’

Post by bodge » Sun Jan 02, 2022 10:05 pm

"Someone should at least have got a red card if today meant anything".

A very early effort for utter madness post of the year and i am confident that it will take at least 6 months to better it.

Whilst we're in range of getting out you have to have some faith, and Cornet has that star quality to help us win a game but his team mates have to step up to the plate and soon !

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Re: ‘We didn’t play with the edge it takes’

Post by bobinho » Sun Jan 02, 2022 10:16 pm

Every week we seem to be saying the same thing….

We need to be getting results and soon……

Then we don’t again….. because players don’t turn up again….

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Re: ‘We didn’t play with the edge it takes’

Post by arise_sir_charge » Sun Jan 02, 2022 10:26 pm

Wile E Coyote wrote:
Sun Jan 02, 2022 8:57 pm
we'll win a few, get out off the relegation spot, and then there'll be silence from the critics as per usual.
to read some of the comments above is sickening.
It’s this kind of naivety that stopped you catching Road Runner.
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Re: ‘We didn’t play with the edge it takes’

Post by Papabendi » Sun Jan 02, 2022 10:37 pm

Put the edge in yourself dyche, don't bleat after the fact

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Re: ‘We didn’t play with the edge it takes’

Post by MACCA » Sun Jan 02, 2022 10:58 pm

Targetman wrote:
Sun Jan 02, 2022 8:17 pm
We will be able to clap Sam Vokes! 😀
Great point, an absolute legend, if only Wood used his body and could head like Sam, he would be 1 hell of a player!

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Re: ‘We didn’t play with the edge it takes’

Post by MACCA » Sun Jan 02, 2022 11:00 pm

willsclarets wrote:
Sun Jan 02, 2022 9:44 pm
This sounds mental, but from sn enjoyment perspective I'd get just as much out of that than Premier league games. I don't want to see us fail obviously, but I genuinely feel like that.
I'm with you, give me 10 wins from 14 in any league over 1 win in 14 in this !
I go on the footy to enjoy myself and hopefully watch us win, the last 6 months has seen lots of not winning, and very little fun

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Re: ‘We didn’t play with the edge it takes’

Post by CrosspoolClarets » Sun Jan 02, 2022 11:23 pm

I get the negativity. I’ve never been a Dyche fan on many levels and criticise him often, but it seems to be that a panicky switch would most probably lead to a worse outcome. A bit like sacking an Allerdyce if you will. Folly, whoever tries it while in the drop zone.

Positives:

We have played 7 at home. No other side has played fewer than 9. OK, so we have 3 at home in the next 4 all against big sides, but after that we have played all of those twice, then Cornet returns for the more winnable games, and we haven’t lost any yet (bar City away) when he has played more than 45 minutes. ALK made 3 good signings last summer, they may make more. They seem a “speculate to accumulate” type and I’m ready to roll the dice player-wise.

I see us in deep trouble but I’m prepared to keep the faith a while longer and ignore the “noise” about player moves, player discontent or manager ineptitude.

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Re: ‘We didn’t play with the edge it takes’

Post by JohnMac » Sun Jan 02, 2022 11:23 pm

JohnMcGreal wrote:
Sun Jan 02, 2022 8:46 pm
His job is to win football matches.
That is down to those on the pitch under his management. Slagging them off every week isn'f for the media's ears.

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Re: ‘We didn’t play with the edge it takes’

Post by ksrclaret » Sun Jan 02, 2022 11:25 pm

Well having just watched the highlights for the first time on MOTD just now and Shearer's analysis of all our mistakes all I can is wow.

Didn't manage to see it in real time as too far away, but Ben Mee trying to do some tricks and flicks on the half way line was something I never thought I'd see.

There was a hell of a lot more missing than just the "edge" today.

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Re: ‘We didn’t play with the edge it takes’

Post by fidelcastro » Sun Jan 02, 2022 11:47 pm

ksrclaret wrote:
Sun Jan 02, 2022 11:25 pm
Well having just watched the highlights for the first time on MOTD just now and Shearer's analysis of all our mistakes all I can is wow.

Didn't manage to see it in real time as too far away, but Ben Mee trying to do some tricks and flicks on the half way line was something I never thought I'd see.

There was a hell of a lot more missing than just the "edge" today.
I scored Tarkowski and Mee a 5 mark each in the player ratings thread. Having seen that analysis, I think I was being generous in the extreme.

:(

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Re: ‘We didn’t play with the edge it takes’

Post by Elizabeth » Mon Jan 03, 2022 1:04 am

bobinho wrote:
Sun Jan 02, 2022 4:51 pm
That Leeds side were there for the taking, we KNEW where they were weak before a ball was kicked, and yet again we failed to exploit it.


Not only did we fail to exploit a poor Leeds side the biggest disappointment was that we gave the ball away carelessly so many times in the first half.
Make no mistake they were nervous in the early stages of the game and this complacency on the ball gave them a lot of encouragement.

The question that us fans will never find out the answer to is ……… why?

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Re: ‘We didn’t play with the edge it takes’

Post by hoskinsgoalatswansea » Mon Jan 03, 2022 3:13 am

I’d really like the journalists to ask tougher questions to the manager. The club and local rag journos seem to be too scared to ask Dyche a question that might even have a hint of criticism in it. The club video, I think it might be Phil Bird, starts with ‘Gaffer, a difficult one to take, at 1-1 we were on top’ at which point Dyche agrees and spends most of the rest of the interview essentially asking and answering his own questions, usually with platitudes that are getting wafer thin in value and actually starting to irritate. Bird prompts with ‘great goal from Maxwell’ and even offers Dyche excuses of tiredness, which with due credit he doesn’t take. Every post match interview now seems to take this pattern, perhaps if more difficult questions are asked we might get answers that help us understand what’s going on and feel a little less frustrated. Although, thinking about it, probably not.

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Re: ‘We didn’t play with the edge it takes’

Post by RicardoMontalban » Mon Jan 03, 2022 6:58 am

hoskinsgoalatswansea wrote:
Mon Jan 03, 2022 3:13 am
I’d really like the journalists to ask tougher questions to the manager. The club and local rag journos seem to be too scared to ask Dyche a question that might even have a hint of criticism in it. The club video, I think it might be Phil Bird, starts with ‘Gaffer, a difficult one to take, at 1-1 we were on top’ at which point Dyche agrees and spends most of the rest of the interview essentially asking and answering his own questions, usually with platitudes that are getting wafer thin in value and actually starting to irritate. Bird prompts with ‘great goal from Maxwell’ and even offers Dyche excuses of tiredness, which with due credit he doesn’t take. Every post match interview now seems to take this pattern, perhaps if more difficult questions are asked we might get answers that help us understand what’s going on and feel a little less frustrated. Although, thinking about it, probably not.
On what plain of existence is Phil Bird going to give Dyche a grilling?

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Re: ‘We didn’t play with the edge it takes’

Post by beddie » Mon Jan 03, 2022 7:53 am

Perhaps we should ask Piers Morgan to interview Dyche :)

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Re: ‘We didn’t play with the edge it takes’

Post by RicardoMontalban » Mon Jan 03, 2022 9:14 am

You could have Cardinal Ximénez of the Spanish Inquisition asking the questions. If he’s working for BFC TV he’s not even reaching for the comfy cushions.

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Re: ‘We didn’t play with the edge it takes’

Post by Andreshotboots » Mon Jan 03, 2022 9:15 am

CrosspoolClarets wrote:
Sun Jan 02, 2022 11:23 pm
I get the negativity. I’ve never been a Dyche fan on many levels and criticise him often, but it seems to be that a panicky switch would most probably lead to a worse outcome. A bit like sacking an Allerdyce if you will. Folly, whoever tries it while in the drop zone.

Positives:

We have played 7 at home. No other side has played fewer than 9. OK, so we have 3 at home in the next 4 all against big sides, but after that we have played all of those twice, then Cornet returns for the more winnable games, and we haven’t lost any yet (bar City away) when he has played more than 45 minutes. ALK made 3 good signings last summer, they may make more. They seem a “speculate to accumulate” type and I’m ready to roll the dice player-wise.

I see us in deep trouble but I’m prepared to keep the faith a while longer and ignore the “noise” about player moves, player discontent or manager ineptitude.
I don't want to throw in a downer but our home form has been worse than our away form over the last 18 months...

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Re: ‘We didn’t play with the edge it takes’

Post by tiger76 » Mon Jan 03, 2022 11:28 am

CrosspoolClarets wrote:
Sun Jan 02, 2022 11:23 pm
I get the negativity. I’ve never been a Dyche fan on many levels and criticise him often, but it seems to be that a panicky switch would most probably lead to a worse outcome. A bit like sacking an Allerdyce if you will. Folly, whoever tries it while in the drop zone.

Positives:

We have played 7 at home. No other side has played fewer than 9. OK, so we have 3 at home in the next 4 all against big sides, but after that we have played all of those twice, then Cornet returns for the more winnable games, and we haven’t lost any yet (bar City away) when he has played more than 45 minutes. ALK made 3 good signings last summer, they may make more. They seem a “speculate to accumulate” type and I’m ready to roll the dice player-wise.

I see us in deep trouble but I’m prepared to keep the faith a while longer and ignore the “noise” about player moves, player discontent or manager ineptitude.
I admire your never say die attitude CC, however after the next 4 games we could be well adrift, and then we'd need to hit a real purple parch during the run in, plus don't forget we'll have to squeeze the 4 postponed games into our schedule as well.

Just maybe if ALK can pull another couple of Cornet type rabbits our of the hat, then all might not be lost just yet, but if we're to pull off a miracle escape we're leaving ourselves an awful lot of work to do in the last few months.

What's worries me is we seem incapable of even beating the lower sides now, 7 points out of a possible 21 against teams currently in the lower half of the table, and we also played many of those sides when they weren't in form.

And if anything we seem to regressing over the course of the season, as our non performances in crunch games at Leeds and Newcastle aptly illustrates, I can tolerate losing, however what can't be condoned is the distinct lack of effort in both those games, where the opposition simply wanted it more, that's totally unacceptable, and something SD needs to address rapidly.

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