The management

Murger · Post by **Murger** » Sat Jan 08, 2022 2:32 pm

They have to go I'm afraid. I couldn't give a monkeys toss if nobody else could get anything from this shower of shite. This is unbearable.

Devils_Advocate · Post by **Devils_Advocate** » Sat Jan 08, 2022 2:34 pm

bf2k · Post by **bf2k** » Sat Jan 08, 2022 2:35 pm

Murger wrote: ↑
Sat Jan 08, 2022 2:32 pm
They have to go I'm afraid. I couldn't give a monkeys toss if nobody else could get anything from this shower of shite. This is unbearable.

It is getting more and more difficult to argue otherwise but this isn’t solely down to them. That squad deity is pathetic and I’m afraid that’s down to other individual.

BabylonClaret · Post by **BabylonClaret** » Sat Jan 08, 2022 2:35 pm

To be fair they had nothing to work with today. But yeah that second half was awful. Worst we've played all season

alf_resco · Post by **alf_resco** » Sat Jan 08, 2022 2:36 pm

When a manager is allowed to think he is unsackable/untouchable, you have a massive problem.

warksclaret · Post by **warksclaret** » Sat Jan 08, 2022 2:36 pm

How often are we hearing "thats the worst we have played all season"

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Sat Jan 08, 2022 2:37 pm

pictures from training

TsarBomba · Post by **TsarBomba** » Sat Jan 08, 2022 2:37 pm

Firstly, I’m a huge admirer of Dyche, and what he has achieved.

There are a number of reasons we are where we are, and Dyche has to take his fair share of the blame.

Our entire game plan, lack of creativity, rigidness and lack of Plan B is on him.

We can throw as much money at it as we like, but if the game plan is the same, and there is a stubborn refusal to change it, then it’s pointless.

BabylonClaret · Post by **BabylonClaret** » Sat Jan 08, 2022 2:37 pm

warksclaret wrote: ↑
Sat Jan 08, 2022 2:36 pm
How often are we hearing "thats the worst we have played all season"

That's the worrying thing isn't it?

Norwich poor
Then Newcastle
Then Leeds
Then today.

burnleymik · Post by **burnleymik** » Sat Jan 08, 2022 2:38 pm

Something has to change and fast.

I thought Newcastle was bad. Leeds really put the boot in and this surely has to be the final straw. How much more do we have to endure now?

Burnley1989 · Post by **Burnley1989** » Sat Jan 08, 2022 2:38 pm

BabylonClaret wrote: ↑
Sat Jan 08, 2022 2:35 pm
To be fair they had nothing to work with today. But yeah that second half was awful. Worst we've played all season

True, you do however have players that earn twice as much as the opposition and on paper are supposed to be better players. Take Cornet, gudmundsson & McNeil out of the side and we have zero attacking threat

taio · Post by **taio** » Sat Jan 08, 2022 2:38 pm

Absolutely shambolic. Second half particularly rotten. Sickening passing of the ball.

Elizabeth · Post by **Elizabeth** » Sat Jan 08, 2022 2:38 pm

A typical cup performance since Dyche has been here but in the past we always knew he would have the answer to survival in the league.
Not so sure this time but strangely looking forward to what he does with the likes of Tarkowski now

bf2k · Post by **bf2k** » Sat Jan 08, 2022 2:39 pm

I said this last week but were we are now snacks of the end of Stan Ternent’s reign.

jrgbfc · Post by **jrgbfc** » Sat Jan 08, 2022 2:39 pm

The new 4 year contract is looking like a masterstroke.

clarethomer · Post by **clarethomer** » Sat Jan 08, 2022 2:40 pm

TsarBomba wrote: ↑
Sat Jan 08, 2022 2:37 pm
Firstly, I’m a huge admirer of Dyche, and what he has achieved.

There are a number of reasons we are where we are, and Dyche has to take his fair share of the blame.

Our entire game plan, lack of creativity, rigidness and lack of Plan B is on him.

We can throw as much money at it as we like, but if the game plan is the same, and there is a stubborn refusal to change it, then it’s pointless.

Some on here will try and tell you with better players that we would play more like Man City.

Lack of recruitment, lack of self belief in managing different type of players, lack of reinvestment in the squad - lack of performances and lack of accountability too.

MACCA · Post by **MACCA** » Sat Jan 08, 2022 2:40 pm

A pro active coach makes a change of personnel and tactics, we fail to adapt and hey presto, game turns on its head

Seen it go against us too many times in the last 12 months for it not to be a coincidence.

Very dull.
Much rather they threw on a young CM and winger, let's see their hunger

If the kids aren't getting on when we have 12 senior players , playing at home in the FA Cup to lower league opposition, than they never wil
We were 1 nil up for goodnesssake, the perfect time to bring on some page, energy and enthusiasm.

BurnleyFC · Post by **BurnleyFC** » Sat Jan 08, 2022 2:40 pm

It’s admirable that we manage to chuck worse performances in week after week.

It must take some doing.

alf_resco · Post by **alf_resco** » Sat Jan 08, 2022 2:41 pm

jrgbfc wrote: ↑
Sat Jan 08, 2022 2:39 pm
The new 4 year contract is looking like a masterstroke.

Said it several times.
Dyche played a blinder on his contract.

BurnleyFC · Post by **BurnleyFC** » Sat Jan 08, 2022 2:42 pm

alf_resco wrote: ↑
Sat Jan 08, 2022 2:41 pm
Said it several times.
Dyche played a blinder on his contract.

He most certainly did.

There’s no way on earth he’ll be here for the next 4 years, though. More likely to be 4 months.

Tribesmen · Post by **Tribesmen** » Sat Jan 08, 2022 2:42 pm

Still has my backing i have to say

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Sat Jan 08, 2022 2:44 pm

MACCA wrote: ↑
Sat Jan 08, 2022 2:40 pm
A pro active coach makes a change of personnel and tactics, we fail to adapt and hey presto, game turns on its head

Seen it go against us too many times in the last 12 months for it not to be a coincidence.

Very dull.
Much rather they threw on a young CM and winger, let's see their hunger

If the kids aren't getting on when we have 12 senior players , playing at home in the FA Cup to lower league opposition, than they never wil
We were 1 nil up for goodnesssake, the perfect time to bring on some page, energy and enthusiasm.

it does make you wonder what on earth is going on at Barnfield. An amazing facility that is being wasted

warksclaret · Post by **warksclaret** » Sat Jan 08, 2022 2:45 pm

BurnleyFC wrote: ↑
Sat Jan 08, 2022 2:40 pm
It’s admirable that we manage to chuck worse performances in week after week.

It must take some doing.

Belief is vanishing. Seriously think that SD has lost the legendary "dressing room"

Granny WeatherWax · Post by **Granny WeatherWax** » Sat Jan 08, 2022 2:45 pm

Can’t go on much longer like this. Our lack of attacking intent is disgraceful.

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Sat Jan 08, 2022 2:45 pm

MACCA wrote: ↑
Sat Jan 08, 2022 2:40 pm
A pro active coach makes a change of personnel and tactics, we fail to adapt and hey presto, game turns on its head

Seen it go against us too many times in the last 12 months for it not to be a coincidence.

Very dull.
Much rather they threw on a young CM and winger, let's see their hunger

If the kids aren't getting on when we have 12 senior players , playing at home in the FA Cup to lower league opposition, than they never wil
We were 1 nil up for goodnesssake, the perfect time to bring on some page, energy and enthusiasm.

Absolutely this

Les Lawrence · Post by **Les Lawrence** » Sat Jan 08, 2022 2:45 pm

Time to go.Like watching the over 30s in the Sunday league.Management change, different ideas,a few new signings,and we might have a slim chance to stay up Otherwise goofball for a another season

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Sat Jan 08, 2022 2:46 pm

Granny WeatherWax wrote: ↑
Sat Jan 08, 2022 2:45 pm
Can’t go on much longer like this. Our lack of attacking intent is disgraceful.

It’s not even the intent, it’s knowing how to even attack and what to do.

Claret3495 · Post by **Claret3495** » Sat Jan 08, 2022 2:47 pm

It's a bit of a non starter as the club won't pay all that money to sack him. Easy in hindsight but the 4 year extension is looking crazy right now.

Johma · Post by **Johma** » Sat Jan 08, 2022 2:48 pm

Lack of intent
Lack of quality in subs to bring on
Lack of investment
Manager past it
Ageing squad
No wins at home in forever

Lost interest

summitclaret · Post by **summitclaret** » Sat Jan 08, 2022 2:50 pm

No way we will or should sack Sean atm. We can't afford to.

We are most likely going down this season, due to allowing cm to become so poor and not replacing Defour. He can take his pay cut like everyone else. If we are not tons better by Dec 2022, then he has to go. I'd rather spend whatever funds are available on a new cm.

Walkerpool · Post by **Walkerpool** » Sat Jan 08, 2022 2:51 pm

We have been really poor for sometime now and before the season started I said we needed a change in management and I was slated.

Quickenthetempo · Post by **Quickenthetempo** » Sat Jan 08, 2022 2:51 pm

We have a squad of players who can't pass or receive the ball.

That is down to Dyche and his coaching staff.

He might be able to pluck a few results but the performance and capabilities of the players are shocking.

DCWat · Post by **DCWat** » Sat Jan 08, 2022 2:51 pm

He’s not had it easy with the lack of transfer funds but keeping the squad fresh and developing the next squad is where the best managers earn their corn. We’ve had the same squad pretty much for years and turned it over too regularly with ageing pros.

We could all see this coming but hell, it’s hit home this season.

BurnleyFC · Post by **BurnleyFC** » Sat Jan 08, 2022 2:52 pm

summitclaret wrote: ↑
Sat Jan 08, 2022 2:50 pm
No way we will or should sack Sean atm. We can't afford to.

We are most likely going down this season, due to allowing cm to become so poor and not replacing Defour. He can take his pay cut like everyone else. If we are not tons better by Dec 2022, then he has to go. I'd rather spend whatever funds are available on a new cm.

I don’t think Dyche will fancy the Championship at all next season, so by that token alone, he probably has to go sooner rather than later.

Andreshotboots · Post by **Andreshotboots** » Sat Jan 08, 2022 2:53 pm

BabylonClaret wrote: ↑
Sat Jan 08, 2022 2:35 pm
To be fair they had nothing to work with today. But yeah that second half was awful. Worst we've played all season

We started with 2 full England internationals and hundreds of Premier League starts between the other 9 players. The managers catchphrases,The legs, hearts, minds, eye of the tiger has completely gone from this side.

Let's be honest it had pretty much gone from midway through last year. Without some dramatic changes my fear is for our Championship status after next season. Too many people at that club who feel untouchable, and the manager is one of them..

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Sat Jan 08, 2022 2:54 pm

Mr Garlick stopped this squad developing in a normal way. No one else.
Self funding exercise. Despicable.

texasbrit · Post by **texasbrit** » Sat Jan 08, 2022 2:55 pm

time for Dyche and Co to go
I would take a punt at Mark Bonner working his magic at Cambridge United he has to be better than the current dinasour at the helm and give an up and coming manager a chance

thelaughingclaret · Post by **thelaughingclaret** » Sat Jan 08, 2022 2:55 pm

Claret3495 wrote: ↑
Sat Jan 08, 2022 2:47 pm
It's a bit of a non starter as the club won't pay all that money to sack him. Easy in hindsight but the 4 year extension is looking crazy right now.

And thats the problem. Dyche knows he has the most secure job in all of football.

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Sat Jan 08, 2022 2:56 pm

Tribesmen wrote: ↑
Sat Jan 08, 2022 2:42 pm
Still has my backing i have to say

A month ago I'd have agreed with you, maybe even a week ago, but the whole club is on a massive downward spiral right now, and I honestly can't see us turning it around.

Now whether another manager could do better with this motley crew I have my doubts, but as we're almost certainly heading for the Championship, it seems an ideal time to have a total reset and move the older OOC players on, as Palace have done under PV, and get some youth injected into our set-up.

Unfortunately it'll probably take until the end of the season before we can do this overhaul, but based on that display against a decent Championship side in Huddersfield we won't be making an immediate return to the PL next season anyway, even if SD remains at the helm. so for me a change is needed come May.

alf_resco · Post by **alf_resco** » Sat Jan 08, 2022 2:56 pm

IanMcL wrote: ↑
Sat Jan 08, 2022 2:54 pm
Mr Garlick stopped this squad developing in a normal way. No one else.
Self funding exercise. Despicable.

Ah, so Dyche and his team bear no fault then.
Thanks for that insight.

Sheedyclaret · Post by **Sheedyclaret** » Sat Jan 08, 2022 2:58 pm

Its stale needs change

MACCA · Post by **MACCA** » Sat Jan 08, 2022 2:58 pm

Vegas Claret wrote: ↑
Sat Jan 08, 2022 2:44 pm
it does make you wonder what on earth is going on at Barnfield. An amazing facility that is being wasted

The kids just aren't fancied nor wanted to play in this squad.

The first team look incapable of playing any sort of football, you've got to question what the he'll goes on midweek training session wise, the whole squad looks to have gone backwards in terms of ability.

The only bright spark is Cornet, but I think that's only because he's playing his natural game and hasn't has it coached out of him just yet.... sorry "frameworked"

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Sat Jan 08, 2022 2:59 pm

alf_resco wrote: ↑
Sat Jan 08, 2022 2:56 pm
Ah, so Dyche and his team bear no fault then.
Thanks for that insight.

Not for about 3 seasons. They have performed miracles and you know it.

Blatherwickstattoo · Post by **Blatherwickstattoo** » Sat Jan 08, 2022 2:59 pm

Dyche hasn’t evolved one bit. It’s the same rigid, one dimensional, long ball, boring, slow, predictable nonsense. It’s been going on for a couple of seasons now. We are beyond bad. I really can’t see us getting out of this one…..but it’s just like us to beat Leicester next week.

Murger · Post by **Murger** » Sat Jan 08, 2022 3:01 pm

summitclaret wrote: ↑
Sat Jan 08, 2022 2:50 pm
No way we will or should sack Sean atm. We can't afford to.

We are most likely going down this season, due to allowing cm to become so poor and not replacing Defour. He can take his pay cut like everyone else. If we are not tons better by Dec 2022, then he has to go. I'd rather spend whatever funds are available on a new cm.

We can't let this go on for another 12 months.

Tribesmen · Post by **Tribesmen** » Sat Jan 08, 2022 3:01 pm

World record ....................... as 1032 on line on UTC at 2.32 pm .

Just go's to show people love bad news

Ipreferaflan · Post by **Ipreferaflan** » Sat Jan 08, 2022 3:03 pm

IanMcL wrote: ↑
Sat Jan 08, 2022 2:54 pm
Mr Garlick stopped this squad developing in a normal way. No one else.
Self funding exercise. Despicable.

Not having that - we've been led to believe that Dyche has always had a big say in who we sign. Garlick may not have made much money available, but the signings (bar Cornet and Collins) have been awful for three years now.

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Sat Jan 08, 2022 3:05 pm

Ipreferaflan wrote: ↑
Sat Jan 08, 2022 3:03 pm
Not having that - we've been led to believe that Dyche has always had a big say in who we sign. Garlick may not have made much money available, but the signings (bar Cornet and Collins) have been awful for three years now.

Whether you have it or not, it remains the case.

Wile E Coyote · Post by **Wile E Coyote** » Sat Jan 08, 2022 3:05 pm

Burnley aren't interested in the FA cup, and the majority of fans arent either.

Cubanforever · Post by **Cubanforever** » Sat Jan 08, 2022 3:07 pm

I know it's as bad as it's been under Sean at the moment but after all he's done for us I can't bring myself to turn on him