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Post by Andreshotboots » Sun Jan 09, 2022 12:22 pm

Don't get this "I'll drive him there stuff". Woods 10 plus goals have helped keep us up every year and his stuff in our own box certainly helps us, yesterday's winner as an example. He probably gets his head to that to clear it.

He is no doubt in poor form at the minute, but he's a streaky player and if he bags a couple he may go on a run. If we solely rely on Vydra, J Rod plus a replacement for Wood to keep us up we're gone..
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Post by alboclaret » Sun Jan 09, 2022 12:26 pm

He'd get some decent balls from tripp

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Post by Papabendi » Sun Jan 09, 2022 12:26 pm

not sure selling your most prolific striker to a rival in a relegation battle is the smartest move - unless there is something pretty bloody good in the background being lined up first
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Post by Iloveyoubrady » Sun Jan 09, 2022 12:33 pm

I reckon he could end up being really good for them if they got him, but I wouldn’t be bothered if we cashed in because he’s been ******** this season due to our lack of service and overall lack of a plan other than give it to MC and hope for a few games when he’s been fit.

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Post by Rumpelstiltskin » Sun Jan 09, 2022 12:35 pm

I can see this happening as long as we get top dollar and have replacements lined up.I think the player will fancy it.Big wage increase and his body language screams he’s not happy.His worst season for us since signing.

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Post by RVclaret » Sun Jan 09, 2022 12:36 pm

How much would you take for him? We paid 15m I think, 50 Prem goals since, surely be looking at 20-25m?

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Post by alwaysaclaret » Sun Jan 09, 2022 12:38 pm

Fee needs to be £20m+ to really be of any benefit to us.

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Post by Flying Without Ings » Sun Jan 09, 2022 12:39 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Sun Jan 09, 2022 12:36 pm
How much would you take for him? We paid 15m I think, 50 Prem goals since, surely be looking at 20-25m?
Think anything less than 30 is not worth it for us. He’s been poor this season but a striker who reliably gets you 10+ goals in a bottom half table side is worth their weight in gold.
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Post by Conroy92 » Sun Jan 09, 2022 12:40 pm

To be honest I'd be happy to cash in on wood.
Imagine, Wood out 20m.
Origi and Phillips in 10m a piece.
Tarks out 15m, new cm in 15m.

Be happy with that.

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Post by RVclaret » Sun Jan 09, 2022 12:42 pm

Flying Without Ings wrote:
Sun Jan 09, 2022 12:39 pm
Think anything less than 30 is not worth it for us. He’s been poor this season but a striker who reliably gets you 10+ goals in a bottom half table side is worth their weight in gold.
Yeah I’d be looking for 25m+ for the reasons you state + its ‘Newcastle tax’ for their new found richness + relegation rival.
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Post by tiger76 » Sun Jan 09, 2022 12:42 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Sun Jan 09, 2022 12:36 pm
How much would you take for him? We paid 15m I think, 50 Prem goals since, surely be looking at 20-25m?
£20m minimum for me. His scoring rate is good for a generally lower half PL team, and if we get rid of him then we will need to invest in a creative midfielder and a striker, be that on loan or perm, and being greedy a right winger.

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Post by Norman » Sun Jan 09, 2022 12:49 pm

Why the hell would people sell Chris Wood?

To replace him would cost a fortune. He's scored 10+ goals every season he's been with us up to now. His goals have kept us up. If we go down he'd be a machine in the Championship.
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Post by Quicknick » Sun Jan 09, 2022 12:51 pm

Norman wrote:
Sun Jan 09, 2022 12:49 pm
Why the hell would people sell Chris Wood?

To replace him would cost a fortune. He's scored 10+ goals every season he's been with us up to now. His goals have kept us up. If we go down he'd be a machine in the Championship.
Maybe he wants to leave, and we don't know this.

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Post by RVclaret » Sun Jan 09, 2022 12:55 pm

Norman wrote:
Sun Jan 09, 2022 12:49 pm
Why the hell would people sell Chris Wood?

To replace him would cost a fortune. He's scored 10+ goals every season he's been with us up to now. His goals have kept us up. If we go down he'd be a machine in the Championship.
Perhaps something we haven’t done well in the past is sell our assets when big offers have come in (Im mainly thinking of Tarkowski at that £30-35m rumoured price, and now he’s going on a free).

Of course we can find reasons to keep them but for clubs like us to survive, in particular the model we run on without rich owners, is signing players hopefully on the relative low, developing them, selling them for good money.
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Post by Blatherwickstattoo » Sun Jan 09, 2022 12:56 pm

Get a replacement in and get him gone. Ever since gobbing off at Dyche away at wolves his body language is awful.
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Post by Norman » Sun Jan 09, 2022 12:57 pm

Quicknick wrote:
Sun Jan 09, 2022 12:51 pm
Maybe he wants to leave, and we don't know this.
But how does that explain why people want to sell him, if they don't know whether he wants to stay or go?

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Post by Norman » Sun Jan 09, 2022 12:58 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Sun Jan 09, 2022 12:55 pm
Perhaps something we haven’t done well in the past is sell our assets when big offers have come in (Im mainly thinking of Tarkowski at that £30-35m rumoured price, and now he’s going on a free).

Of course we can find reasons to keep them but for clubs like us to survive, in particular the model we run on without rich owners, is signing players hopefully on the relative low, developing them, selling them for good money.
Every player is for sale - but this still doesn't explain why some fans are saying, "I'll drive him there myself" - yet have no idea of who would replace him.

And you must plan for what looks a 50-50 of us going down. How are some people not thinking of that scenario?

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Post by RVclaret » Sun Jan 09, 2022 1:00 pm

Norman wrote:
Sun Jan 09, 2022 12:58 pm
Every player is for sale - but this still doesn't explain why some fans are saying, "I'll drive him there myself" - yet have no idea of who would replace him.

And you must plan for what looks a 50-50 of us going down. How are some people not thinking of that scenario?
Yeah don’t disagree there, it would be quite a big loss to us and you are right, he’d probably bag for fun in the Champ.

Guess it depends who we have lined up as a replacement.
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Post by CombatClaret » Sun Jan 09, 2022 1:03 pm

Makes sense from Newcastle's perspective, they need quick fixes to stay up before they can look to the long-term project.
Callum Wilson out for 8 weeks is a huge blow for them.

Wood has a proven track record of being able to score 10-15 goals per season. Puts him just under than Defoe/Benteke 15+ level and combined with his age that has kept bigger clubs for coming in.
Wood on the end of Trippier crosses adds another attacking option. I've not doubt Wood would improve with better service, give him more chances he's bound to stick a few more away.

Unsettling us is just a positive side effect.
This team needs a reset and we will need funds so I could see the owners doing a Vokes style cash in while there is still time on the contract & money on the table.

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Post by Norman » Sun Jan 09, 2022 1:07 pm

CombatClaret wrote:
Sun Jan 09, 2022 1:03 pm
Makes sense from Newcastle's perspective, they need quick fixes to stay up before they can look to the long-term project.
Callum Wilson out for 8 weeks is a huge blow for them.

Wood has a proven track record of being able to score 10-15 goals per season. Puts him just under than Defoe/Benteke 15+ level and combined with his age that has kept bigger clubs for coming in.
Wood on the end of Trippier crosses adds another attacking option. I've not doubt Wood would improve with better service, give him more chances he's bound to stick a few more away.

Unsettling us is just a positive side effect.
This team needs a reset and we will need funds so I could see the owners doing a Vokes style cash in while there is still time on the contract & money on the table.
I can only see us selling if he's extremely unhappy and wants out. But even then I'd make him stay until the summer.

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Post by Blatherwickstattoo » Sun Jan 09, 2022 1:12 pm

He’s always divided fans. For me he’s a decent player but he’s feeding off scraps currently. We’d be better off with an Andre grey type who’s going to play on the shoulder and chase lost causes.

I can see there being more to this move. I really think he’ll be off

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Post by taio » Sun Jan 09, 2022 1:14 pm

Surely if Wood was to be sold it would be on the basis that there is acceptance that we are definitely going down.

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Post by kentonclaret » Sun Jan 09, 2022 1:15 pm

As I posted on another thread our expected Goals Factor (xGF) is currently the second lowest in the Premier League and we are simply not creating enough chances for Wood to score. Cornet has scored goals from individual pieces of skill and with some wonder strikes not from tap ins following a flowing Burnley move. Wood will soon be off on NZ World Cup qualification duty and if he wants to leave and the price is right I would let him go with the proviso that suitable reinforcements are lined up (for the midfield and in the striker department). With Vydra carrying an injury (reportedly) we do not want to be relying on Barnes and Rodriguez (no PL goal this season thus far).

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Post by Norman » Sun Jan 09, 2022 1:15 pm

taio wrote:
Sun Jan 09, 2022 1:14 pm
Surely if Wood was to be sold it would be on the basis that there is acceptance that we are definitely going down.
Which would make more sense to keep him (unless he's unhappy).

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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Sun Jan 09, 2022 1:17 pm

taio wrote:
Sun Jan 09, 2022 1:14 pm
Surely if Wood was to be sold it would be on the basis that there is acceptance that we are definitely going down.
You are probably right but at the same time it would open up some funds. We have a massive rebuild regardless of the league we are in next season.

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Post by Norman » Sun Jan 09, 2022 1:17 pm

kentonclaret wrote:
Sun Jan 09, 2022 1:15 pm
As I posted on another thread our expected Goals Factor (xGF) is currently the second lowest in the Premier League and we are simply not creating enough chances for Wood to score. Cornet has scored goals from individual pieces of skill and with some wonder strikes not from tap ins following a flowing Burnley move. Wood will soon be off on NZ World Cup qualification duty and if he wants to leave and the price is right I would let him go with the proviso that suitable reinforcements are lined up (for the midfield and in the striker department). With Vydra carrying an injury (reportedly) we do not want to be relying on Barnes and Rodriguez (no PL goal this season thus far).
He's not off until March so not soon.
This is the thing - if he wants to leave. I've not heard anything from a trustworthy source to suggest he wants out.

You make a good point regarding chances though - it's a central midfielder we need, not a replacement for Wood.

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Post by Conroy92 » Sun Jan 09, 2022 1:18 pm

Norman wrote:
Sun Jan 09, 2022 12:49 pm
Why the hell would people sell Chris Wood?

To replace him would cost a fortune. He's scored 10+ goals every season he's been with us up to now. His goals have kept us up. If we go down he'd be a machine in the Championship.
Certainly looked a machine yesterday Vs Huddersfield. A washing machine.

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Post by taio » Sun Jan 09, 2022 1:19 pm

Norman wrote:
Sun Jan 09, 2022 1:15 pm
Which would make more sense to keep him (unless he's unhappy).
We shouldn't get shut but if it happened I'd regard it as the Board believing we are already down.

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Post by Norman » Sun Jan 09, 2022 1:20 pm

Conroy92 wrote:
Sun Jan 09, 2022 1:18 pm
Certainly looked a machine yesterday Vs Huddersfield. A washing machine.
Who comes in to replace him.

The player needs to have scored 10+ goals every season in the Prem and be under £15 million.

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Post by taio » Sun Jan 09, 2022 1:21 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Sun Jan 09, 2022 1:17 pm
You are probably right but at the same time it would open up some funds. We have a massive rebuild regardless of the league we are in next season.
Selling him to Newcastle in January would be bizarre

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Post by Blatherwickstattoo » Sun Jan 09, 2022 1:21 pm

Does anyone think there’s been some fallouts this season?? There’s something not quiet right apart from us being sh*te, we don’t look like ‘team’ anymore
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Post by Mala591 » Sun Jan 09, 2022 1:24 pm

taio wrote:
Sun Jan 09, 2022 1:14 pm
Surely if Wood was to be sold it would be on the basis that there is acceptance that we are definitely going down.
Pace and Dyche will never ‘just accept’ that we are going down. Expect frenetic activity this month to sign two top quality loan players.
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Post by Pearcey » Sun Jan 09, 2022 1:25 pm

Selling Wood would be crazy! I do however think he needs a spell on the bench. I’d like to see us sign another striker, couple of centre mids and a centre half.
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Post by Conroy92 » Sun Jan 09, 2022 1:27 pm

Norman wrote:
Sun Jan 09, 2022 1:20 pm
Who comes in to replace him.

The player needs to have scored 10+ goals every season in the Prem and be under £15 million.
They don't though do they :D
They have to be able or have the potential to score 10+ a season. Just because a younger player hasn't done it before doesn't mean they won't in the future.
Then theres the foreign market with players never playing in the premier league.
You could be part of out recruitment team with the tactical nous of just looking at strikers that have scored 10+ in the premier league!
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Post by taio » Sun Jan 09, 2022 1:27 pm

Mala591 wrote:
Sun Jan 09, 2022 1:24 pm
Pace and Dyche will never ‘just accept’ that we are going down. Expect frenetic activity this month to sign two top quality loan players.
I don't think they would which is why I can't see that we'd contemplate selling Wood to Newcastle, unless Pace believes we are definitely going down.

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Post by Norman » Sun Jan 09, 2022 1:29 pm

Conroy92 wrote:
Sun Jan 09, 2022 1:27 pm
They don't though do they :D
They have to be able or have the potential to score 10+ a season. Just because a younger player hasn't done it before doesn't mean they won't in the future.
Then theres the foreign market with players never playing in the premier league.
You could be part of out recruitment team with the tactical nous of just looking at strikers that have scored 10+ in the premier league!
You've completely missed my point, so we'll leave it.

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Post by Norman » Sun Jan 09, 2022 1:30 pm

taio wrote:
Sun Jan 09, 2022 1:27 pm
I don't think they would which is why I can't see that we'd contemplate selling Wood to Newcastle, unless Pace believes we are definitely going down.
If he definitely believes we are going down, he keeps him.

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Post by burnleymik » Sun Jan 09, 2022 1:32 pm

Letting our main striker leave in January, whilst our other main striker is away at AFCON and then to a relegation rival, would be completely unacceptable, unless the money was exceptional.

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Post by taio » Sun Jan 09, 2022 1:33 pm

Norman wrote:
Sun Jan 09, 2022 1:30 pm
If he definitely believes we are going down, he keeps him.
Disagree. It'd be the only reason we'd sell him to Newcastle in Jan.

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Post by warksclaret » Sun Jan 09, 2022 1:33 pm

Needs resting but not selling. He is always likely to return to his old form. The worry we hear is that Vydra has a small hernia, Barnes is finished.Jay has lost his sparkle but been better since coming on v Wolves, but been injury/niggle prone. We are desperately short of strikers and selling him to a rival makes no sense, unless of course its mega money. Like Hendrick though he would find himself on the bench a lot at Newcastle.

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Post by beddie » Sun Jan 09, 2022 1:34 pm

Blatherwickstattoo wrote:
Sun Jan 09, 2022 1:21 pm
Does anyone think there’s been some fallouts this season?? There’s something not quiet right apart from us being sh*te, we don’t look like ‘team’ anymore
I think CT alluded to it yesterday, probably because a good number of our players are out if contract soon and have concerns about their future.

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Post by Pearcey » Sun Jan 09, 2022 1:35 pm

warksclaret wrote:
Sun Jan 09, 2022 1:33 pm
Needs resting but not selling. He is always likely to return to his old form. The worry we hear is that Vydra has a small hernia, Barnes is finished.Jay has lost his sparkle but been better since coming on v Wolves, but been injury/niggle prone. We are desperately short of strikers and selling him to a rival makes no sense, unless of course its mega money. Like Hendrick though he would find himself on the bench a lot at Newcastle.
Not sure he’d be on their bench to be honest. Wilson is out and Joelinton is playing deeper. He’d be a guaranteed starter in that side.

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Post by kentonclaret » Sun Jan 09, 2022 1:36 pm

You can be certain that Newcastle will be in the market for 3 or 4 strikers they won't be relying on Chris Wood solely for goals even if they do sign him.

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Post by burnleymik » Sun Jan 09, 2022 1:36 pm

Depressing. I came to see all the exciting players we are linked with brining in to fight our way out of the relegation zone and instead see we are being approached for our main striker and no real news of incomings!

Come on Mr Pace and team, work some magic here, we need some hope.

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Post by Norman » Sun Jan 09, 2022 1:37 pm

taio wrote:
Sun Jan 09, 2022 1:33 pm
Disagree. It'd be the only reason we'd sell him to Newcastle in Jan.
Apparently, this is all false anyway - no interest from Newcastle, so all very hypothetical.
Add to that, I don't believe Burnley would sell him. People knock us, but we rarely get shafted when it comes to selling players.

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Post by kentonclaret » Sun Jan 09, 2022 1:38 pm

beddie wrote:
Sun Jan 09, 2022 1:34 pm
I think CT alluded to it yesterday, probably because a good number of our players are out if contract soon and have concerns about their future.
Surely, Crystal Palace found themselves in a similar position last season but the players didn't all perform like drains leaving the club in the relegation places. :x

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Post by Conroy92 » Sun Jan 09, 2022 1:42 pm

Norman wrote:
Sun Jan 09, 2022 1:29 pm
You've completely missed my point, so we'll leave it.
I don't think I have missed your point, it's clear you wouldn't sell Wood and think only by signing a player who has scored 10+ goals in the prem, every season they have played in it, for under 15m would it then be considerable.
I disagree, I think we could find a Striker who can get 10+ from a different league other than the prem for under 15m and offer you more all around game than Wood. Do you know how I know? We've already done it with Cornet :D

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Post by tiger76 » Sun Jan 09, 2022 1:42 pm

beddie wrote:
Sun Jan 09, 2022 1:34 pm
I think CT alluded to it yesterday, probably because a good number of our players are out if contract soon and have concerns about their future.
Yep! something definitely doesn't feel right within our squad, and you do wonder just how focussed on BFC the OOC players genuinely are, I sense heads have been turned notably Tarkowski who's nothing like the reliable pro we've seen throughout his Burnley career, but he's by no means the only one who's letting the side down.
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Re: January 2022 Burnley Transfer Window Rumours - Links - Discussion

Post by Blatherwickstattoo » Sun Jan 09, 2022 1:44 pm

beddie wrote:
Sun Jan 09, 2022 1:34 pm
I think CT alluded to it yesterday, probably because a good number of our players are out if contract soon and have concerns about their future.
Yeah the contract situation shouldn’t be happening. We have 10 players all uncertain on where they are going to be next season. I’m sure the new owners aren’t going to be giving out 2 year contracts for anyone over 30. Fee are sulking clearly as it’s showing in the performances. Half arsed

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Re: January 2022 Burnley Transfer Window Rumours - Links - Discussion

Post by Dy1geo » Sun Jan 09, 2022 1:48 pm

Given the age of Chris Wood and the remaining length of his contract I would sell him like we should have done with Tarks, letting him run his contract down an potentially leave for nothing should not be allowed to happen.

We have to shift our emphasis to younger players with sell on rather than players at their peak but when contracts expire minimal residual value.
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