January 2022 Burnley Transfer Window Rumours - Links - Discussion

ClaretMov · Post by **ClaretMov** » Mon Jan 31, 2022 4:38 pm

Spijed wrote: ↑
Mon Jan 31, 2022 4:29 pm
Are you seriously suggesting Wood is a better striker?

We've lost Wood and Its 99% certain Vydra won't play this season again, Barnes is the same and Jay Rod is, We've lost two forwards okay one sold and one to injury that the club knew about and he needed a hernia operation and we bring in one, I'd say hat makes us weaker than when we started January.

claretonthecoast1882 · Post by **claretonthecoast1882** » Mon Jan 31, 2022 4:39 pm

ervi34 wrote: ↑
Mon Jan 31, 2022 4:37 pm
Would be interesting to see what would comments be like if Garlick were still in charge.

Probably just like the comments that were made under his last few windows

Newcastleclaret93 · Post by **Newcastleclaret93** » Mon Jan 31, 2022 4:39 pm

Taffy on the wing wrote: ↑
Mon Jan 31, 2022 4:36 pm
You're the tosser!.....You clutter up every thread with your negative & repetitive arguments. GROW UP.

As usual posters that don’t like what they hear (even though it’s the truth) result to offensive name calling

Conroy92 · Post by **Conroy92** » Mon Jan 31, 2022 4:39 pm

I'd say the general consensus on here is that Wood out and only WW in, is not enough. Yet there's still this small collection of people calling people melts for "overreacting". Very strange. I'd say most of them are just trying to save face after telling us not to panic after the first 25 days of the window and that there was "plenty of time left".

duncandisorderly · Post by **duncandisorderly** » Mon Jan 31, 2022 4:40 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑
Mon Jan 31, 2022 4:33 pm
Pace could go into your house steal everything you own and you would still support him haha.

If this window was under Garlicks tenureship you wouldn’t even be able to post on this thread because it would be locked.

I would be delighted if Pace came to my house and stole all my light fittings.

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Mon Jan 31, 2022 4:41 pm

Conroy92 wrote: ↑
Mon Jan 31, 2022 4:39 pm
I'd say the general consensus on here is that Wood out and only WW in, is not enough. Yet there's still this small collection of people calling people melts for "overreacting". Very strange. I'd say most of them are just trying to save face after telling us not to panic after the first 25 days of the window and that there was "plenty of time left".

‘Judge on Feb 1st’

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Mon Jan 31, 2022 4:42 pm

This season.

Westwood - 0G 3A
McNeil - 0G 1A
Gudmundsson - 0G 1A
Brownhill - 0G 0A

The weakest part of our team by a mile but not improved on. Poor.

TsarBomba · Post by **TsarBomba** » Mon Jan 31, 2022 4:42 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑
Mon Jan 31, 2022 4:33 pm
Pace could go into your house steal everything you own and you would still support him haha.

If this window was under Garlicks tenureship you wouldn’t even be able to post on this thread because it would be locked.

If it hadn’t been for Orsic/Zagreb pulling the rug from under us at the last minute, then we wouldn’t even be having this conversation, because we would all be pretty chuffed with our business. That’s how fine the margins are.

In fact, I would probably would be having this conversation with you regardless, because Pace can do no right, and you get some sort of perverse pleasure in all of this.

duncandisorderly · Post by **duncandisorderly** » Mon Jan 31, 2022 4:44 pm

RVclaret wrote: ↑
Mon Jan 31, 2022 4:42 pm
This season.

Westwood - 0G 3A
McNeil - 0G 1A
Gudmundsson - 0G 1A
Brownhill - 0G 0A

The weakest part of our team by a mile but not improved on. Poor.

I don't disagree, but a misfiring Wood accounts for some of those figures too.

quoonbeatz · Post by **quoonbeatz** » Mon Jan 31, 2022 4:44 pm

burnley007 wrote: ↑
Mon Jan 31, 2022 4:19 pm
Who's excited for the Watford game now? Imagine the lift the fans will have after yet another disastrous window...ffs

I am. Haven't been to a game since December, we've got Cornet back and a new centre forward. Really looking forward to it.

ClaretMov · Post by **ClaretMov** » Mon Jan 31, 2022 4:46 pm

TsarBomba wrote: ↑
Mon Jan 31, 2022 4:42 pm
If it hadn’t been for Orsic/Zagreb pulling the rug from under us at the last minute, then we wouldn’t even be having this conversation, because we would all be pretty chuffed with our business. That’s how fine the margins are.

In fact, I would probably would be having this conversation with you regardless, because Pace can do no right, and you get some sort of perverse pleasure in all of this.

How do you know the rug was pulled, maybe Burnley wanted him on the cheap or wanted to pay the reported figure of 7m at 2m a year over 3.5 years, no one knows on here why that deal didn't go through

Burnley Ace · Post by **Burnley Ace** » Mon Jan 31, 2022 4:47 pm

AlargeClaret wrote: ↑
Mon Jan 31, 2022 4:24 pm
Do you seriously think any player ( especially non uk ) have the slightest inkling or give a flying f*** that 15/20 yrs ago a few tiny wards briefly elected a few bnp councillors ? And what the hell has Brexit voted got to do with it?? And you wonder why the country elected a clown with views like yours representing the other option.

Perhaps being a tiny prem club in a sh1thole of a town ,stone bottom of the league, very weak squad and not being able to afford insane wages has rather more bearing .

Yes I do, perhaps players aren’t as ignorant as you

Guller Bull · Post by **Guller Bull** » Mon Jan 31, 2022 4:48 pm

Stop being such a set of fannies!

Life goes on, transfer windows come and go. Teams go up and down.

No matter how many points you score on here, you aren't going to change someones opinion by belittling them.
We all support the same club, just agree to disagree.

spt_claret · Post by **spt_claret** » Mon Jan 31, 2022 4:48 pm

claretrobo1 wrote: ↑
Mon Jan 31, 2022 4:37 pm
You don’t get points for trying. Ultimately, the window has been a failure if nobody else is brought in and that’s what is looking likely. Have I been watching the same Burnley that everyone else has? No creativity. Weghorst can be as good as he wants but if we’ve got nobody to create chances then there’s little point.

I 100% think we need a winger and 1 CM as a minimum ideally 2, but just to step back in this mess to repost the stats:

spt_claret wrote: ↑
Mon Jan 31, 2022 4:08 pm
Just took a look at the table Vs Big Chances created stats.
We are joint 15th on big chances created with 21. Southampton who are tied have played 4 more games. Obviously we have played less games than anybody, Brentford have had 2 more chances in 5 more games.
19th on goals with 16.
Only club in the league with fewer goals than Big Chances Created. Even bottom scoring Norwich have 13 goals Vs 12 big chances.
This does actually give me a bit of hope that Weghorst will swing things, but I still firmly believe we need more, because of the amount of ground we have to make up on.

We are actually performing fine in terms of chance creation especially with our fewer games played. We are by far the worst in the league at converting chances even with Cornet topping the whole division for goals per minutes.
Does this mean Weghorst alone is enough? Probably not.
But even though our midfield clearly needs bolstering the actual facts point to a reversal of prior seasons. In the past we barely created but overperformed in taking chances. Now we are creating adequately but underperforming on conversion.

blake's wand · Post by **blake's wand** » Mon Jan 31, 2022 4:48 pm

The window being disappointing does not necessarily equal the board not doing well.

You can only buy what is available on the market. Our scouts are at it fulltime trying to find players and then convince them to come to us.

It's a disappointing end to a window that looked full of promise, but we replaced Wood with an exciting signing and were moments away from Orsic.

kentonclaret · Post by **kentonclaret** » Mon Jan 31, 2022 4:49 pm

When I posted on here recently again pointing out that we simply don't score enough goals, CT replied that one of the main problems was the lack of any creativity in our midfield resulting in a lack of scoring opportunities for our strikers.

Nothing has changed in this window apart from replacing one big target man with another.

It doesn't matter who is wearing the Number 9 shirt if the chances are not being created.

Pearcey · Post by **Pearcey** » Mon Jan 31, 2022 4:50 pm

RVclaret wrote: ↑
Mon Jan 31, 2022 4:42 pm
This season.

Westwood - 0G 3A
McNeil - 0G 1A
Gudmundsson - 0G 1A
Brownhill - 0G 0A

The weakest part of our team by a mile but not improved on. Poor.

This is why I’d like to see Cornet on the right wing. He’d still score goals and he’d be involved in the game more. We have better strikers on the bench than we do wingers. We really need Jay to step up now.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Mon Jan 31, 2022 4:51 pm

quoonbeatz wrote: ↑
Mon Jan 31, 2022 4:44 pm
Haven't been to a game since December

Part timer

And then I realised, I've not been on the Turf since mid-December.

Burnley Ace · Post by **Burnley Ace** » Mon Jan 31, 2022 4:52 pm

AlargeClaret wrote: ↑
Mon Jan 31, 2022 4:24 pm
Do you seriously think any player ( especially non uk ) have the slightest inkling or give a flying f*** that 15/20 yrs ago a few tiny wards briefly elected a few bnp councillors ? And what the hell has Brexit voted got to do with it?? And you wonder why the country elected a clown with views like yours representing the other option.

Perhaps being a tiny prem club in a sh1thole of a town ,stone bottom of the league, very weak squad and not being able to afford insane wages has rather more bearing .

Sorry, as you think. The stain on Burnley’s reputation is undeniable, who wants to play for fans that are perceived by many as insular racist morons?

claretrobo1 · Post by **claretrobo1** » Mon Jan 31, 2022 4:52 pm

spt_claret wrote: ↑
Mon Jan 31, 2022 4:48 pm
I 100% think we need a winger and 1 CM as a minimum ideally 2, but just to step back in this mess to repost the stats:

We are actually performing fine in terms of chance creation especially with our fewer games played. We are by far the worst in the league at converting chances even with Cornet topping the whole division for goals per minutes.
Does this mean Weghorst alone is enough? Probably not.
But even though our midfield clearly needs bolstering the actual facts point to a reversal of prior seasons. In the past we barely created but overperformed in taking chances. Now we are creating adequately but underperforming on conversion.

Interesting stats, it certainly doesn’t feel like it though when you watch us. Games like Newcastle, Leeds, Wolves etc are games you want to go on the front foot but we looked hopeless going forward. The midfielders have no goals between them which is worrying. I wish I had as much optimism as you haha

GodIsADeeJay81 · Post by **GodIsADeeJay81** » Mon Jan 31, 2022 4:52 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑
Mon Jan 31, 2022 4:33 pm
Pace could go into your house steal everything you own and you would still support him haha.

If this window was under Garlicks tenureship you wouldn’t even be able to post on this thread because it would be locked.

We could reach 7th place again and you'd still refuse to give Pace any credit, haha.

Longsider · Post by **Longsider** » Mon Jan 31, 2022 4:52 pm

First opportunity to check in today. So we have signed WW, Ramsey doesn't want to come to Burnley. Are there any other last minute deals know to be being worked on or have the club said that's our lot for this window?

HyperClaret · Post by **HyperClaret** » Mon Jan 31, 2022 4:52 pm

Fulgini's move has collapsed reportedly - chance for us to swoop in?

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Mon Jan 31, 2022 4:54 pm

blake's wand wrote: ↑
Mon Jan 31, 2022 4:48 pm
The window being disappointing does not necessarily equal the board not doing well.

You can only buy what is available on the market. Our scouts are at it fulltime trying to find players and then convince them to come to us.

It's a disappointing end to a window that looked full of promise, but we replaced Wood with an exciting signing and were moments away from Orsic.

agree with this to a point. No way on planet earth we can't find someone more effective than JBG

Boss Hogg · Post by **Boss Hogg** » Mon Jan 31, 2022 4:54 pm

Despite Garlick’s failure to invest in the team the new owners have had 3 windows to strengthen the weakest part of the team. So far they haven’t done it. Central Midfield has needed strengthening for as long as I can remember. If we get relegated ( which is likely) this will be the main reason why. The other reason is putting all their eggs in one basket without a solid plan B ( A bit like the manager). No ifs or butts or excuses about trying. It’s about delivering what’s needed.

GodIsADeeJay81 · Post by **GodIsADeeJay81** » Mon Jan 31, 2022 4:54 pm

Burnley Ace wrote: ↑
Mon Jan 31, 2022 4:52 pm
Sorry, as you think. The stain on Burnley’s reputation is undeniable, who wants to play for fans that are perceived by many as insular racist morons?

https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/soccer ... -1.3929375

This is from 2019, when we had 3 arrests across 4 seasons.

If someone has it stuck in their heads that our fans are more racist than anyone elses, then quite frankly they're an idiot.

ClaretAL · Post by **ClaretAL** » Mon Jan 31, 2022 4:56 pm

For those who have more knowledge around the U23's, is Helm good enough to step up?

BurnleyFC · Post by **BurnleyFC** » Mon Jan 31, 2022 4:56 pm

Joke of a transfer window again. Some things just never change.

Boss Hogg · Post by **Boss Hogg** » Mon Jan 31, 2022 4:57 pm

Burnley Ace wrote: ↑
Mon Jan 31, 2022 4:52 pm
Sorry, as you think. The stain on Burnley’s reputation is undeniable, who wants to play for fans that are perceived by many as insular racist morons?

Absolute nonsense. A few idiots that you get at all clubs. Stop tarring the club and all fans with the same brush.

ClaretMov · Post by **ClaretMov** » Mon Jan 31, 2022 4:58 pm

Apart from Cornet the lack of quality brought in over the last 7 or 8 transfer windows has given us a weak squad sat at the bottom of the league resulting in us not being an attractive club to be at, this board I believe have tried this window but the damage done previously by Garlick etc hasn't helped

gtclaret · Post by **gtclaret** » Mon Jan 31, 2022 4:58 pm

What time does the window close

Pearcey · Post by **Pearcey** » Mon Jan 31, 2022 4:59 pm

gtclaret wrote: ↑
Mon Jan 31, 2022 4:58 pm
What time does the window close

It’s already closed according to some on here.

wilks_bfc · Post by **wilks_bfc** » Mon Jan 31, 2022 5:00 pm

gtclaret wrote: ↑
Mon Jan 31, 2022 4:58 pm
What time does the window close

11pm

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Mon Jan 31, 2022 5:00 pm

Pearcey wrote: ↑
Mon Jan 31, 2022 4:59 pm
It’s already closed according to some on here.

CT said he’s been told that’s likely it and seen as there’s zero links anywhere…

Pearcey · Post by **Pearcey** » Mon Jan 31, 2022 5:03 pm

RVclaret wrote: ↑
Mon Jan 31, 2022 5:00 pm
CT said he’s been told that’s likely it and seen as there’s zero links anywhere…

I get that but there’s still a chance. I’ll wait until the club have officially stood down the Journo’s.

Shaggy · Post by **Shaggy** » Mon Jan 31, 2022 5:04 pm

RVclaret wrote: ↑
Mon Jan 31, 2022 5:00 pm
CT said he’s been told that’s likely it and seen as there’s zero links anywhere…

That’s the thing ain’t nothing going to happen now without someone knowing about it. Travel plans, medical etc etc.

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Mon Jan 31, 2022 5:04 pm

ClaretMov wrote: ↑
Mon Jan 31, 2022 4:46 pm
How do you know the rug was pulled, maybe Burnley wanted him on the cheap or wanted to pay the reported figure of 7m at 2m a year over 3.5 years, no one knows on here why that deal didn't go through

Because its all out there online

Anyway, everyone should have a good moan on this thread (some more deranged that others admittedly) and then turn up on Sat and give our full support to the team

claretandy · Post by **claretandy** » Mon Jan 31, 2022 5:05 pm

Bournemouth sign Nat Phillips, they've absolutely smashed this window.

dsr · Post by **dsr** » Mon Jan 31, 2022 5:06 pm

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote: ↑
Mon Jan 31, 2022 4:54 pm
https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/soccer ... -1.3929375

This is from 2019, when we had 3 arrests across 4 seasons.

If someone has it stuck in their heads that our fans are more racist than anyone elses, then quite frankly they're an idiot.

Certain opposition fans are convinced that Burnley are a team of cloggers and a team of giants. Two provably incorrect opinions. They aren't going to be convinced by arrest statistics.

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Mon Jan 31, 2022 5:06 pm

Newcastle have offered a £3m loan fee + £4m survival bonus to Manchester United for Jesse Lingard.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Mon Jan 31, 2022 5:07 pm

Pearcey wrote: ↑
Mon Jan 31, 2022 5:03 pm
I get that but there’s still a chance. I’ll wait until the club have officially stood down the Journo’s.

There is still a chance but it doesn't appear anything is happening right now.

spt_claret · Post by **spt_claret** » Mon Jan 31, 2022 5:08 pm

claretrobo1 wrote: ↑
Mon Jan 31, 2022 4:52 pm
Interesting stats, it certainly doesn’t feel like it though when you watch us. Games like Newcastle, Leeds, Wolves etc are games you want to go on the front foot but we looked hopeless going forward. The midfielders have no goals between them which is worrying. I wish I had as much optimism as you haha

Far from optimism more a case of how deceptive and overly based on past precedent our perceptions often are.
After all you can equally argue these stats mean creativity is even more important if we arent converting as many. Again team sports mean that if a team is underperforming it's rarely due to one player or position.

As for the trying our best, hard sell etc. Simply doesn't matter and simply excuses in a results business and football is a results business. As a hard nosed Wall Street man Pace should know that better than anyone and I doubt he'd want those excuses or accept them from others.
The town politics argument is laughable, we could play the Internationale for goal music, swap to a rainbow kit and ban anybody who isn't triple vaccinated from the club and we wouldn't improve our transfer prospects one jot. People who care that much about political alignment will never be satisfied and people who separate sport from politics won't be affected either way.

claretandy · Post by **claretandy** » Mon Jan 31, 2022 5:08 pm

Milltown1882 wrote: ↑
Mon Jan 31, 2022 4:31 pm
£40million for Dele Alli. At least Dick Turpin wore a mask.

It's a free transfer, 10m paid after 20 games.

Steve-Harpers-perm · Post by **Steve-Harpers-perm** » Mon Jan 31, 2022 5:08 pm

I’ll wait till 11pm but if we end up bringing in one striker to replace the one outgoing one then it will be nothing short of a disgrace. It can’t be that difficult to identify and sign a midfielder and right winger that would improve the current lot!

SalisburyClaret · Post by **SalisburyClaret** » Mon Jan 31, 2022 5:09 pm

Buying a proven striker in January is probably the most difficult purchase for a club without a wealthy owner. Even more so when you’re weren’t planning on shopping for one. So I think we’ve done pretty well on that score.

Pearcey · Post by **Pearcey** » Mon Jan 31, 2022 5:09 pm

ClaretTony wrote: ↑
Mon Jan 31, 2022 5:07 pm
There is still a chance but it doesn't appear anything is happening right now.

That’s the impression I got from your posts. That’s why I’m hanging on to the thread of hope that something could happen.

JR1882 · Post by **JR1882** » Mon Jan 31, 2022 5:10 pm

Looking like the usual window. Linked with 1 or 2 main targets. Fail to land them, then end up with nothing. “Orsic was down to bad luck etc”, we just need to stop being unlucky at some stage.

In a month where it was clear from the start we needed 2-3 to come in to the squad, it looks like we aren’t adding to our numbers at all.

Bizarre to have such high profile targets then end with no one? Who is 2nd and 3rd on the list for each position as I’m sure they will be better than what we have at the moment.

The white flag is up, shambles of a window yet again, I’ll stand corrected hopefully by midnight.

Sozturf7 · Post by **Sozturf7** » Mon Jan 31, 2022 5:12 pm

Don't be daft.

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Mon Jan 31, 2022 5:12 pm

ClaretTony wrote: ↑
Mon Jan 31, 2022 5:07 pm
There is still a chance but it doesn't appear anything is happening right now.

What happened with the potential signing you had a new article for? Deal just not happening due to his club or decided against coming to us?

GaryClaret · Post by **GaryClaret** » Mon Jan 31, 2022 5:12 pm

If we make a midfield signing ahead of 11 then I’ll hold up my hands, eat humble pie etc - it’s not looking good though is it?

Are people telling me that there wasn’t anyone we could buy/loan to improve that midfield? Like we know a single deal that fell apart fair enough. That deal wasn’t much money, in a premier league context, though was it? When you think we received £25m for Wood and, like many others have said, we would have expected 2/3 signings even without that money being received.

Surely now this adds to the feeling that there are debts to be paid and that is where the money is going. I’m not saying this is confirmed or that I am convinced 100% of that happening (how could I?) but we have not been nearly as active in the market as we surely either expected nor had to be.

My concern has increased and I for one will not be listening to reassurances from the board on the stories saying we were jipped by this deal. We should be believing journalists on this takeover and not think the press are biased against us.