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Charlie Taylor

Post by ClaretMov » Sat Feb 26, 2022 8:17 am

Does he go straight back into the starting eleven when fit, personally I don't think he should, Petiers has been superb in these last few game's he's played.

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Re: Charlie Taylor

Post by MACCA » Sat Feb 26, 2022 8:41 am

Nope, 4 clean sheets in the last 6, with only 2 goals conceeded is a fantastic record for any team in the league, never ming one that was rock bottom, even more so when you look at the teams we have played.

Erik has had some world class players up against him and has performed extremely well.

To coin a Dyche phrase, it's now his shirt to lose for me.
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Re: Charlie Taylor

Post by Roosterbooster » Sat Feb 26, 2022 8:49 am

Agree. Been superb. Puts Charlie under pressure to perform
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Re: Charlie Taylor

Post by BurnleyFC » Sat Feb 26, 2022 8:54 am

I think Charlie Taylor has been one of our better performers this season but you don’t change a winning side and Pieters has been playing well.

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Re: Charlie Taylor

Post by jackmiggins » Sat Feb 26, 2022 8:59 am

Charlie has a big year ahead - Pieters can’t be dropped at the moment, but injuries etc may change things - he’s also got the ‘spectre’ of his upcoming wedding 😳

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Re: Charlie Taylor

Post by ElectroClaret » Sat Feb 26, 2022 9:07 am

Charlie will probably get his chance, but I hope he doesn't because that'll
mean Pieters will still be doing the business.

Deffo keep EP in for the foreseeable.

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Re: Charlie Taylor

Post by NewClaret » Sat Feb 26, 2022 9:20 am

Taylor was my player of the season up to his injury, but no way you can drop Eric now. 2 in 6 is phenomenal and whilst that form continues, and he’s playing well, he stays in the team.

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Re: Charlie Taylor

Post by RVclaret » Sat Feb 26, 2022 9:23 am

Taylor is the better player but Pieters gives 100% every time and no, you can’t change a winning team. That said, I must say I’m looking forward to Taylor getting back in and having his and Roberts’ energy down both flanks.

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Re: Charlie Taylor

Post by littlemissclaret » Sat Feb 26, 2022 9:49 am

Charlie seems to take a couple of games to get up to full speed, so it's now or never...

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Re: Charlie Taylor

Post by Buxtonclaret » Sat Feb 26, 2022 10:04 am

Eric has been a superb signing. Can't recall exactly how much he cost, but it wasn't much in today's daft fees.
As mentioned up the thread, how can you drop someone who's recently played so well against such world class players.
And as much as he wants to play, I reckon Charlie realises he'll likely have to wait a bit.

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Re: Charlie Taylor

Post by claretblue » Sat Feb 26, 2022 10:08 am

ElectroClaret wrote:
Sat Feb 26, 2022 9:07 am
Deffo keep EP in for the foreseeable
EP = 'Extended Player'

;)

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Re: Charlie Taylor

Post by RingoMcCartney » Sat Feb 26, 2022 10:09 am

It's a great "problem" for SD to have.
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Re: Charlie Taylor

Post by jdrobbo » Sat Feb 26, 2022 10:25 am

Charlie is my favourite player but I think he would even admit, Pieters deserves the shirt. You simply should not change the back four at present.

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Re: Charlie Taylor

Post by AlargeClaret » Sat Feb 26, 2022 10:32 am

Perhaps give Charlie 25 mins 2nd half , though EP been fantastic

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Re: Charlie Taylor

Post by ksrclaret » Sat Feb 26, 2022 10:35 am

A tough one for me because I regard Charlie Taylor as one of our best players, particularly in the first half of this season where he was often the only player who looked to be leaving everything on the field. He's just as good defensively as Pieters, but far superior going forward.

Pieters has been very good though, especially against Salah who couldn't get a proper kick all game, and it'd be dangerous to change the team after such an impressive few performances and results.

I guess it comes down to whether Dyche rates Taylor alongside Tarkowski who was straight back in.

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Re: Charlie Taylor

Post by jojomk1 » Sat Feb 26, 2022 11:26 am

Some people were asking the same question about Tarks getting straight back in to replace Collins and then JT had his best game of the season

This one a bit more difficult and as much as I rate Charlie, Eric would have to get the shirt

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Re: Charlie Taylor

Post by jdrobbo » Sat Feb 26, 2022 11:35 am

ksrclaret wrote:
Sat Feb 26, 2022 10:35 am
A tough one for me because I regard Charlie Taylor as one of our best players, particularly in the first half of this season where he was often the only player who looked to be leaving everything on the field. He's just as good defensively as Pieters, but far superior going forward.

Pieters has been very good though, especially against Salah who couldn't get a proper kick all game, and it'd be dangerous to change the team after such an impressive few performances and results.

I guess it comes down to whether Dyche rates Taylor alongside Tarkowski who was straight back in.

I think the difference here is that Erik has not just played a single game… he has now had a good run in the side and there is no doubt, our performances have improved significantly at the back during his time in the XI.

Do I think Taylor is a better player? I absolutely do, but Pieters is one of the biggest wage earners at our club and he himself believes that he should be first choice left back. It’s brilliant competition and when he has earned the shirt in the way he has, then he should keep it for the time being.

It was exactly the same a few years ago, when Bardsley got in the side, following a poor in a form from Lowton. As a result, things improved and we went on a decent run.

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Re: Charlie Taylor

Post by ClaretTony » Sat Feb 26, 2022 11:41 am

Pieters has done really well over these last six games and I thought he had his best game yet against Spurs. I'd be surprised if he's left out the minute Taylor is back fit.

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Re: Charlie Taylor

Post by JohnDearyMe » Sat Feb 26, 2022 11:43 am

jdrobbo wrote:
Sat Feb 26, 2022 11:35 am
I think the difference here is that Erik has not just played a single game… he has now had a good run in the side and there is no doubt, our performances have improved significantly at the back during his time in the XI.

Do I think Taylor is a better player? I absolutely do, but Pieters is one of the biggest wage earners at our club and he himself believes that he should be first choice left back. It’s brilliant competition and when he has earned the shirt in the way he has, then he should keep it for the time being.

It was exactly the same a few years ago, when Bardsley got in the side, following a poor in a form from Lowton. As a result, things improved and we went on a decent run.
Didn't realise Pieters is one of our top wage earners, interesting. Agree that he should keep his place

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Re: Charlie Taylor

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Sat Feb 26, 2022 11:44 am

Pieters is our best lb, so composed on the ball and adds another dimension that we have been missing.

If only he was a few years younger

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Re: Charlie Taylor

Post by Guitargeorge » Sat Feb 26, 2022 11:56 am

I would keep CT back and use him later in the game as a defensive midfielder if the score warrants it,

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Re: Charlie Taylor

Post by tiger76 » Sat Feb 26, 2022 12:00 pm

Can't change the defence right now unless injuries permit, so therefore Charlie will have to bide his time for me.

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Re: Charlie Taylor

Post by Tricky Trevor » Sat Feb 26, 2022 12:16 pm

CT & Westy available today, according to Sky.
Less than 2 hours and we’ll all know SDs thinking.

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Re: Charlie Taylor

Post by RVclaret » Sat Feb 26, 2022 12:23 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Sat Feb 26, 2022 11:44 am
Pieters is our best lb, so composed on the ball and adds another dimension that we have been missing.

If only he was a few years younger
Done a fine job when called upon but Taylor is clear and arguably was our player of the season before this upturn in form.

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Re: Charlie Taylor

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Sat Feb 26, 2022 12:27 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Sat Feb 26, 2022 12:23 pm
Done a fine job when called upon but Taylor is clear and arguably was our player of the season before this upturn in form.
I would argue Pieters has arguably been our best player since he started playing. Immense in nearly every game

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Re: Charlie Taylor

Post by jrgbfc » Sat Feb 26, 2022 12:31 pm

jdrobbo wrote:
Sat Feb 26, 2022 11:35 am
I think the difference here is that Erik has not just played a single game… he has now had a good run in the side and there is no doubt, our performances have improved significantly at the back during his time in the XI.

Do I think Taylor is a better player? I absolutely do, but Pieters is one of the biggest wage earners at our club and he himself believes that he should be first choice left back. It’s brilliant competition and when he has earned the shirt in the way he has, then he should keep it for the time being.

It was exactly the same a few years ago, when Bardsley got in the side, following a poor in a form from Lowton. As a result, things improved and we went on a decent run.
I'd be amazed if Pieters is one of our top earners, he's a backup full back.

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Re: Charlie Taylor

Post by RVclaret » Sat Feb 26, 2022 12:32 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Sat Feb 26, 2022 12:27 pm
I would argue Pieters has arguably been our best player since he started playing. Immense in nearly every game
Nah Brownhill easily been the best (as reflected in man of the match votes on here), while Taylor was up near the top in the same votes prior to injury. Like I said, Pieters does a great job and is defensively very strong but Taylor offers a lot more going forward (actually he had the most touches out of any of our players this season, which shows how good an outlet he is).

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Re: Charlie Taylor

Post by Helmshore Claret » Sat Feb 26, 2022 12:32 pm

Bit of a head scratcher this one?

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Re: Charlie Taylor

Post by Stayingup » Sat Feb 26, 2022 1:10 pm

Charlie back for me. He's been one of our better erformers during the bad times and liks very well with McNeil

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Re: Charlie Taylor

Post by IanMcL » Sat Feb 26, 2022 1:11 pm

Great to have on the bench, as back up to Erik the Colossus.

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Re: Charlie Taylor

Post by wilks_bfc » Sat Feb 26, 2022 1:17 pm

Stayingup wrote:
Sat Feb 26, 2022 1:10 pm
Charlie back for me. He's been one of our better erformers during the bad times and liks very well with McNeil
I agree Charlie was performing well during our “bad times”, but Eric has been performing well during the better times.

I like Taylor, and he would usually be straight back in for me, but we stick with Pieters imo

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Re: Charlie Taylor

Post by Bosscat » Sat Feb 26, 2022 1:20 pm

wilks_bfc wrote:
Sat Feb 26, 2022 1:17 pm
I agree Charlie was performing well during our “bad times”, but Eric has been performing well during the better times.*

I like Taylor, and he would usually be straight back in for me, but we stick with Pieters imo
I found myself reading this and humming along to ChumbaWumba & "Tubthumping" *
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Re: Charlie Taylor

Post by Quicknick » Sat Feb 26, 2022 1:21 pm

Pieters has been a superb signing.

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Re: Charlie Taylor

Post by claretandy » Sat Feb 26, 2022 1:28 pm

I'm a big Charlie Taylor fan, but Pieters has been superb.
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Re: Charlie Taylor

Post by Stayingup » Sat Feb 26, 2022 1:30 pm

Bosscat wrote:
Sat Feb 26, 2022 1:20 pm
I found myself reading this and humming along to ChumbaWumba & "Tubthumping" *
Maybe that should be our intro music instead of the Death March they're subjecting us to now.

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Re: Charlie Taylor

Post by Bosscat » Sat Feb 26, 2022 1:42 pm

Stayingup wrote:
Sat Feb 26, 2022 1:30 pm
Maybe that should be our intro music instead of the Death March they're subjecting us to now.
We did walk on to "Tubthumping" a few years ago 🙂

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Re: Charlie Taylor

Post by Buxtonclaret » Sat Feb 26, 2022 1:47 pm

Ouch.
Bet he feels that.
Nearly another though, for Spurs

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Re: Charlie Taylor

Post by Buxtonclaret » Sat Feb 26, 2022 1:48 pm

Heck.
Really should have scored then!
Come on, Spurs,

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Re: Charlie Taylor

Post by Buxtonclaret » Sat Feb 26, 2022 2:21 pm

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
^^^
Wrong thread.

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Re: Charlie Taylor

Post by jdrobbo » Sat Feb 26, 2022 5:21 pm

jrgbfc wrote:
Sat Feb 26, 2022 12:31 pm
I'd be amazed if Pieters is one of our top earners, he's a backup full back.
Be amazed them 😀

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Re: Charlie Taylor

Post by Boss Hogg » Sat Feb 26, 2022 5:23 pm

‘Back up’ he’s first choice currently on merit.

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Re: Charlie Taylor

Post by ElectroClaret » Sat Feb 26, 2022 5:28 pm

Pieters off injured today, so it'll probably be Charlie starting against Leicester.

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Re: Charlie Taylor

Post by RVclaret » Sat Feb 26, 2022 5:35 pm

Good to get some minutes today, freshness required for Tuesday.

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Re: Charlie Taylor

Post by bobinho » Sat Feb 26, 2022 5:39 pm

Pieters won’t start the next game after today’s showing against that young lad out wide. Dyches record of returning certain players back into the starting line up is there for all to see and I reckon Taylor is one of those. I’m also ok with that.

There will be changes in the midfield too. Westy will be back for Cork probably. Not getting all three points today will guarantee those changes happen.
It will of course be put down to another reason, and it will be ‘sound’ reasoning like Cork is tired and Taylor will be better against Leicesters wide player.

Taylor hasn’t ‘come on’ as much as I thought he would…. After the first 12 months I was convinced he’d be knocking on England’s door but it just hasn’t happened for him yet. I mean I think he has more potential than we have yet seen, and I also believe he is probably our best option at left back despite pieters playing well and putting a shift in every time he turns out.

Taylor is and should be first choice… and pieters is good back up, but back up non the less.

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Re: Charlie Taylor

Post by ElectroClaret » Sat Feb 26, 2022 5:44 pm

I reckon Cornet has a good chance of starting, too.

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Re: Charlie Taylor

Post by ksrclaret » Sat Feb 26, 2022 5:46 pm

I think we'll need things freshening up for Leicester and Taylor coming back in for Pieters who has taken a knock will contribute to that.

He did really struggle with Olise this afternoon but to be fair Palace keep their wingers right up against the touchline, and our defensive structure doesn't lend itself to dealing with that very easily.
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Re: Charlie Taylor

Post by IanMcL » Sun Feb 27, 2022 2:33 am

The changes will be made for Tuesday, however, I thought Taylor looked short of match fitness, today. Let's hope that match did the trick!

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Re: Charlie Taylor

Post by tiger76 » Sun Feb 27, 2022 10:32 am

Charlie will definitely return to the fold on Tuesday now, but he probably would have got the nod anyway due to the short window between games, so that 30 minutes can't do him any harm.

Pieters has been pretty solid, but he struggled with Olise yesterday, and it was no surprise their goal came down that side.

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Re: Charlie Taylor

Post by Top Claret » Sun Feb 27, 2022 11:03 am

There must be some tired legs out there. I would rest Pieters, Cork and Rodriguez/Lennon and replace them with Taylor, Westwood and Cornet

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Re: Charlie Taylor

Post by The Enclosure » Sun Feb 27, 2022 11:12 am

ElectroClaret wrote:
Sat Feb 26, 2022 5:44 pm
I reckon Cornet has a good chance of starting, too.
Thats if he finds a shirt to wear 😃

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