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Re: Russia Invades

Post by Elbarad » Wed Mar 09, 2022 7:22 pm

elwaclaret wrote:
Wed Mar 09, 2022 7:07 pm
It is mentioned I think on this thread (in fact I know it is, I posted it). It was announced after the fuel Trucker protest, but agreed before… one commentator dryly commented words to the effect that was just enough to mitigate the protest.

I WILL ALSO APOLOGISE AGAIN FOR ANY TYPOES, besides trying to keep the thread up to date, I am also decorating and talking to clients regarding work and sifting University prospectus’s with a view to doing my masters/doctorate… so I may not be as on the ball re-reading my own posts as I normally am.
OK! I found the link in your previous post. Again, I was sincere, I wasn't trying to give you a hard time about typos or anything. Thanks for the direction.

So you linked a report that shows Exxon will be given 2.7 million barrels from the Strategic Petroleum Reserve. OK, thanks for helping me find it.
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Re: Russia Invades

Post by elwaclaret » Wed Mar 09, 2022 7:26 pm

Reuters: Blinken reveals Putin has rejected every ‘off ramp’ the US has been prepared to offer.

https://twitter.com/reuters/status/1501 ... 59303?s=21

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by Boss Hogg » Wed Mar 09, 2022 7:32 pm

Willieonthewing wrote:
Wed Mar 09, 2022 5:09 pm
Happens in all wars unfortunately, ask the citizens of Dresden etc
And London and Coventry etc. Like us then Ukraine didn’t want or start this war. Sometimes it takes strong and tough decisions to destroy an evil regime.

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by grapidianclaret » Wed Mar 09, 2022 7:36 pm

Elbarad wrote:
Wed Mar 09, 2022 5:52 pm
Talk from Biden about domestic production is cheap. I'll believe it when I see it. His policy the entire time he ran for office and since his inauguration has been to hamper domestic production. Yesterday his press secretary tried to blame producers for not drilling on 9000 approved leases. Which have been explored and don't have cost effective, drillable oil. But I hope to be proven wrong.

The one step I've seen him take that I believe is making friends with Venezuela to get some oil from there. That's also hard to believe considering who their government is, but beggar's can't be choosers I guess.
Venezuelas oil production will take time to get back on line,due to a massive lack of investment from before and after sanctions.

Biden ran on moving the USA towards green energy, not on expanding drilling. The USA has plenty of oil,the issue in this case is Europes dependancy on Russian energy,which only increased after the invasion of Crimea and the seperatist regions of Ukraine.

Hindsight is 20/20 but a blind goldfish could see that Europes ever growing reliance on Russian oil and gas was not going to end well.
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Re: Russia Invades

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by Elbarad » Wed Mar 09, 2022 7:44 pm

grapidianclaret wrote:
Wed Mar 09, 2022 7:36 pm
Venezuelas oil production will take time to get back on line,due to a massive lack of investment from before and after sanctions.

Biden ran on moving the USA towards green energy, not on expanding drilling. The USA has plenty of oil,the issue in this case is Europes dependancy on Russian energy,which only increased after the invasion of Crimea and the seperatist regions of Ukraine.

Hindsight is 20/20 but a blind goldfish could see that Europes ever growing reliance on Russian oil and gas was not going to end well.
Yes, I agree with you on all points. Biden has been trying to move the USA from oil and move to green energy which is admirable, but risky as is proving out now. I don't think he's going to take meaningful action towards expanding domestic production and even if there is it would take years to come to the pumps. But I would be happy if he's had a change of heart to at least moderate his position. But there's almost nothing he can do that will be a big change in the short term. Just my opinion.

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by elwaclaret » Wed Mar 09, 2022 7:45 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote:
Wed Mar 09, 2022 7:37 pm
https://twitter.com/olliecarroll/status ... 5625687042

Pro Ukrainian protests in Kherson
Not sure if its an edited version of the one I posted… they were refusing to let a convoy of troops go through town. At the front of that lot are Russian soldiers trying to convince them to move.

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by Willieonthewing » Wed Mar 09, 2022 7:48 pm

Boss Hogg wrote:
Wed Mar 09, 2022 7:32 pm
And London and Coventry etc. Like us then Ukraine didn’t want or start this war. Sometimes it takes strong and tough decisions to destroy an evil regime.
Yep... Every war innocent civilians are killed by all sides, not unique to the current one

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by Vegas Claret » Wed Mar 09, 2022 7:50 pm

interesting to see if we hear more of this
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Re: Russia Invades

Post by KateR » Wed Mar 09, 2022 7:53 pm

An alternative view from Paul H. Tice for some to consider
Energy & Infrastructure, Investor/Adjunct Professor

The main energy takeaway from the Russia-Ukraine war is not that the U.S. or the world needs to accelerate the shift to renewable power and fuel sources. Rather, the conflict is a warning shot that countries need to develop their own in-house natural hydrocarbon resources and fortify their sovereign oil and gas supply lines. National economies (like many in Western Europe) based on intermittent power sources such as wind and solar cannot project political or military power, as we are now seeing with the European/NATO response to the Russian invasion of Ukraine. And military forces cannot run on SAF, biodiesel or solar panels. Note that the current war in Ukraine is taking place during the winter and mostly at night, which is exactly when “the wind don’t blow and the sun don’t shine.” Lastly, petroleum helped turned the tide in both world wars when the good guys (not the dictators) won.

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by elwaclaret » Wed Mar 09, 2022 7:55 pm

Eighteen year old whose only battle experience is playing consoles has gone to Ukraine to fight. I’ve just seen on a snippet of Granada Reports. - I find it hard not to believe he has any idea that it will be nothing like his Call of Duty :(

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by elwaclaret » Wed Mar 09, 2022 8:00 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:
Wed Mar 09, 2022 7:50 pm
interesting to see if we hear more of this
That is the racing driver that has a whistleblowing friend inside the Kremlin, and has been retweeted by several experts on the subject… so its a good source.

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by KateR » Wed Mar 09, 2022 8:03 pm

Elbarad wrote:
Wed Mar 09, 2022 6:49 pm
That sounds promising, but I don't know what a fist deal is. I've tried looking it up since your post and can't find anything, but I'm sure that's my error. Can you elaborate a bit or be kind enough to provide a link.

Sorry, I know a lot of times that's a bit of a passive aggressive move, but I am sincere. I have looked without any luck. All I see is where Exxon pulled out of Sakhalin Island on March 1st.

Thanks.

It's not just Exxon, I spoke yesterday (on WhatsApp) with the head on the US Contracting company that has been working on Sakhalin 1 for over a decade, he had been quiet for a while since the start of the war. Yesterday he and his team moved from Dubai, where they got to from Sakhalin, into the Philippines, where the company have a very large office, so major US contractors definitely pulling out. Sakhalin probably being as far away from the conflict as you could get within Russia.

It is also stated that not much is being said and that it's not clear as to whether they will go back or not if the conflict is resolved to satisfaction of the west/US in this case.

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by grapidianclaret » Wed Mar 09, 2022 8:04 pm

Elbarad wrote:
Wed Mar 09, 2022 7:44 pm
Yes, I agree with you on all points. Biden has been trying to move the USA from oil and move to green energy which is admirable, but risky as is proving out now. I don't think he's going to take meaningful action towards expanding domestic production and even if there is it would take years to come to the pumps. But I would be happy if he's had a change of heart to at least moderate his position. But there's almost nothing he can do that will be a big change in the short term. Just my opinion.
He will undoubtedly have to moderate his position. We all will in the short term,hopefully not long term.

The XL pipeline may even get resurrected.
Someone said earlier in the thread,climate change will suffer as a result of ,,Putins actions,but hopefully it will speed the world away from fossil fuels faster in the long term.

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by Willieonthewing » Wed Mar 09, 2022 8:14 pm

Gas and oil prices fall massively today

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by Taffy on the wing » Wed Mar 09, 2022 8:20 pm

Lowbankclaret wrote:
Wed Mar 09, 2022 5:18 pm
Wonder if think like I do Saudi has scored a long term own goal here, it has refused to increase production. The west has suddenly woken up to the fact that supplies cannot be relied on.

This conflict which is horrible, might just have done more for renewables than 26 COP’s.
Let's hope so!........the sooner that horrible regime is gone the better.

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by elwaclaret » Wed Mar 09, 2022 8:23 pm

Footage of the Russian patrol boat ‘Ivan Bykov’ first reported the other day in the Black Sea

https://twitter.com/militaryhistori/sta ... 70374?s=21

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by Taffy on the wing » Wed Mar 09, 2022 8:24 pm

KateR wrote:
Wed Mar 09, 2022 7:53 pm
An alternative view from Paul H. Tice for some to consider
Energy & Infrastructure, Investor/Adjunct Professor

The main energy takeaway from the Russia-Ukraine war is not that the U.S. or the world needs to accelerate the shift to renewable power and fuel sources. Rather, the conflict is a warning shot that countries need to develop their own in-house natural hydrocarbon resources and fortify their sovereign oil and gas supply lines. National economies (like many in Western Europe) based on intermittent power sources such as wind and solar cannot project political or military power, as we are now seeing with the European/NATO response to the Russian invasion of Ukraine. And military forces cannot run on SAF, biodiesel or solar panels. Note that the current war in Ukraine is taking place during the winter and mostly at night, which is exactly when “the wind don’t blow and the sun don’t shine.” Lastly, petroleum helped turned the tide in both world wars when the good guys (not the dictators) won.
......and he's wrong!..IMO

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by JarrowClaret » Wed Mar 09, 2022 8:25 pm

elwaclaret wrote:
Wed Mar 09, 2022 8:23 pm
Footage of the Russian patrol boat ‘Ivan Bykov’ first reported the other day in the Black Sea

https://twitter.com/militaryhistori/sta ... 70374?s=21
I saw the ship being discussed being hit by grad MLRS and people were saying how could that happen it seems they lured it into a pre arranged kill box and engaged when it was there smart if true.

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by elwaclaret » Wed Mar 09, 2022 8:37 pm

US suspect Russia of employing ‘Dumb Bombs’ Reuters report

https://twitter.com/reuters/status/1501 ... 54244?s=21

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by KateR » Wed Mar 09, 2022 8:39 pm

Taffy on the wing wrote:
Wed Mar 09, 2022 8:24 pm
......and he's wrong!..IMO
Personally I don't think he's entirely wrong, as long as there are regimes like Russia/China, etc. they have complete forces, all of which today need fossil fuel to be able to work, even if poorly, as in Russia's case since the start of this war. Therefore, the US, EU and the west including all NATO will need the same. Powering navies/air forces can not be done with renewables, tanks can't either plus large trucks for supplies, so unfortunately the opposite forces are going to need to match each other in terms of readiness for exactly this sort of thing in the future, long in to the future.

Hydrogen can be an alternative for some vehicles but the infrastructure for this is none existent, work is ongoing for powering large vessels and aircraft with hydrogen and green ammonia, of course many of the larger vessels have nuclear power plants, which can be considered good or bad.

It is much more static requirements such as power grids that need to be the focus of the renewables, including green hydrogen and hopefully this will accelerate, but the use of fossil fuels for the remainder of this century is absolutely going to be needed, so it will be a slow weeding of the low hanging fruit from fossil fuels.

The need for energy security including a mix of fossil fuels is definitely needed I believe, in the US the government has been stock piling reserves since the 70's and are very loath to use them, much preferring to use/buy outside sources as part of a mix and add to the strategic reserves. Hence the softening and intent to allow Venezuela to open the taps and sell, but the US will control who they can sell to, I'm sure of that.

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by elwaclaret » Wed Mar 09, 2022 8:39 pm

Putin will be held to account , PM reiterates after condemning the targeting of the vulnerable NEXTA report

https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/150 ... 72001?s=21

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by Vegas Claret » Wed Mar 09, 2022 8:42 pm

elwaclaret wrote:
Wed Mar 09, 2022 8:00 pm
That is the racing driver that has a whistleblowing friend inside the Kremlin, and has been retweeted by several experts on the subject… so its a good source.
yeah I think I cottoned on to him from one of your earlier posts

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by elwaclaret » Wed Mar 09, 2022 8:42 pm

JarrowClaret wrote:
Wed Mar 09, 2022 8:25 pm
I saw the ship being discussed being hit by grad MLRS and people were saying how could that happen it seems they lured it into a pre arranged kill box and engaged when it was there smart if true.
As I suspect you know better than me, we’ve been working with the Ukrainians for a few years since they performed poorly in Crimea. They are doing an exceptionally good job and their people are just rocks.

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by elwaclaret » Wed Mar 09, 2022 8:53 pm

BBC Question time on Ukraine just started BBC1

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by elwaclaret » Wed Mar 09, 2022 9:02 pm

WarnerMedia (Warner Bros and HBO) suspends all films, programmes and games licenses for Russia

https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/150 ... 54342?s=21

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Re: Russia Invades

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by Vegas Claret » Wed Mar 09, 2022 9:09 pm

sadly I feel this will be incredibly accurate
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Re: Russia Invades

Post by elwaclaret » Wed Mar 09, 2022 9:10 pm

Oil price plunges on US stock exchange, Tech up.

https://twitter.com/reuters/status/1501 ... 35328?s=21

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by Willieonthewing » Wed Mar 09, 2022 9:17 pm

elwaclaret wrote:
Wed Mar 09, 2022 9:10 pm
Oil price plunges on US stock exchange, Tech up.

https://twitter.com/reuters/status/1501 ... 35328?s=21
Pointed this out an hour ago.. Gas has done the same. UEA and Iraq upping production
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Re: Russia Invades

Post by elwaclaret » Wed Mar 09, 2022 9:22 pm

Peter Caddick- Adams (2nd) Critic Magazine article on ‘The War So Far’

https://twitter.com/militaryhistori/sta ... 63719?s=21

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by elwaclaret » Wed Mar 09, 2022 9:26 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:
Wed Mar 09, 2022 9:09 pm
sadly I feel this will be incredibly accurate
QT on in UK Now: We are sending tank busters and ‘very accurate’ anti aircraft weaponry. Earlier Ukrainian pilots can only fly MIG’s of NATO planes. Ukraine airforce still pretty strong and doing well.
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Re: Russia Invades

Post by ecc » Wed Mar 09, 2022 9:35 pm

I have reached saturation point today. And I am ashamed of myself. I've been watching too many videos on YT, too many things on FB, reading too many articles. I have watched too many heart-wrenching scenes. And that is a shameful admission.

My son's school is organising a collection for Ukraine and I am proud my son is going to such a school. I will be trying to act by helping and stop thinking.

PLEASE continue to update this thread. You must do. I admire you all, believe me. I will come back and read when I'm ready.

By keeping this thread going each contributor is helping Ukraine and seeking to tell the truth. I have nothing against the Russian people. On the contrary, I want their sons, brothers, loved ones out of there.

We must believe that right will prevail.
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Re: Russia Invades

Post by Jellybean » Wed Mar 09, 2022 9:46 pm

Just to echo the post above, this thread is unbelievably helpful. Thank you to all the contributors for the links and insight, the updates are great for those of us who don't use Twitter normally; even this has helped me understand how powerful social media is when it is being used for the greater good and to spread messages and videos, this is evidence from the source that simply cannot be ignored.

My hopes are fading that this will be resolved anytime soon but the Ukraine are doing Western civilisation proud and I hope they will prevail in the most desperate circumstances.
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Re: Russia Invades

Post by Sottpark1 ! » Wed Mar 09, 2022 9:55 pm

Have to agree ecc , hard to see so much suffering hospitals attacked, old people driving along butchered , Putin offering to house Ukranian orphans he’s created with separatists in Donetsk and Luhansk , seeing so many people forced from their homes , the damage to people and the economies, the cynical use of countries jostling for their own advantage Saudi Arabia, UAE , Pakistan, India, China , it fills you with despair and yet so many good stories the people of Berlin waiting to take refugees into their homes etc We will be better and hopefully we know now who are friends are and don’t pretend that we can change countries by trade , and treat hem accordingly!

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by KRBFC » Wed Mar 09, 2022 10:11 pm

Trump calls the Ukraine invasion a ''disgraceful situation'', this interview shits on everyone who claims he supports Putin's decision.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRbRoQc ... ENDPODCAST

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by Lancasterclaret » Wed Mar 09, 2022 10:25 pm

ecc wrote:
Wed Mar 09, 2022 9:35 pm
I have reached saturation point today. And I am ashamed of myself. I've been watching too many videos on YT, too many things on FB, reading too many articles. I have watched too many heart-wrenching scenes. And that is a shameful admission.

My son's school is organising a collection for Ukraine and I am proud my son is going to such a school. I will be trying to act by helping and stop thinking.

PLEASE continue to update this thread. You must do. I admire you all, believe me. I will come back and read when I'm ready.

By keeping this thread going each contributor is helping Ukraine and seeking to tell the truth. I have nothing against the Russian people. On the contrary, I want their sons, brothers, loved ones out of there.

We must believe that right will prevail.
Well said ecc

Said this to Damo on twitter, but this helps me keep sane posting about it, rather than just staring at the unfolding horror and being able to do nothing about it

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by TsarBomba » Wed Mar 09, 2022 10:25 pm

Trying to keep abreast of where Russia has been attacking/advancing today, but increasingly difficult to get an accurate picture.

-Heavy shelling in Kharkiv, although reports that Ukraine have pushed some elements of the Russian Army out of areas.
-Mariupol still horrendously besieged.
-Russia tightening their grip on Kherson and allegedly arresting hundreds of Ukrainians out on the streets.
-Fighting heavy in Mykolaiv but still not taken

Whilst there is no significant advances around Kyiv, you can’t help but feel the Russian grip in the south is slowly but surely tightening, although the strategic prize of Odessa still aludes them.

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by elwaclaret » Wed Mar 09, 2022 10:35 pm

Liz Truss is pushing for a full exclusion from SWIFT amid a new set of sanctions against Russia

https://twitter.com/reutersuk/status/15 ... 61798?s=21

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by elwaclaret » Wed Mar 09, 2022 10:37 pm

NEXTA with more photos of the evacuations from the maternity hospital

https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/150 ... 07591?s=21

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by Cubanforever » Wed Mar 09, 2022 10:40 pm

How many more sanctions have we got left to play?

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Post by elwaclaret » Wed Mar 09, 2022 10:40 pm

Reuters Ukraine looking at options for relocating their communications systems out of Ukraine

https://twitter.com/reuters/status/1501 ... 20194?s=21

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by elwaclaret » Wed Mar 09, 2022 10:52 pm

Cubanforever wrote:
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How many more sanctions have we got left to play?
Exclusion zones are among the final. They were used on Cuba (the first time), its slightly different to a ‘Blockade’ which is equivalent to bombing insomuch it is an act of war in itself. You’d need a lot of nations to agree, though. There are products so far not affected, food and medicines, nickel and (despite the war) Uranium is still being bought from Russia, by the US so presumably by us too. There is still a lot of tightening up the could do also on ‘seizures’ of assets etc. so, still a way to go.

It’s like a Tap, the more we squeeze the greater the suffering - but the ordinary Russians pay the highest price - if we wacked it on fully Russia would be plunged into famine by June (an insider at the Kremlin leaked) maybe even as things stand.
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Re: Russia Invades

Post by Wile E Coyote » Wed Mar 09, 2022 11:05 pm

Anyone seen the John Pilger assessment of the prelude to all of this?
I can't claim to know much about the political/geographic history in this region, but it does make me wonder where the truth lies sometimes.

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by elwaclaret » Wed Mar 09, 2022 11:09 pm

Wile E Coyote wrote:
Wed Mar 09, 2022 11:05 pm
Anyone seen the John Pilger assessment of the prelude to all of this?
I can't claim to know much about the political/geographic history in this region, but it does make me wonder where the truth lies sometimes.
The truth lies in the One Massive world power attacked a Sovereign nation, and have been committing war crimes ever since - that is all we need to know right now - those people DO NOT WANT TO BE RUSSIAN

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by Cubanforever » Wed Mar 09, 2022 11:15 pm

elwaclaret wrote:
Wed Mar 09, 2022 11:09 pm
The truth lies in the One Massive world power attacked a Sovereign nation, and have been committing war crimes ever since - that is all we need to know right now - those people DO NOT WANT TO BE RUSSIAN
And that's just what's happening now, what he's done in the past makes me wonder how he's got this far...hindsight is a great thing though
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Re: Russia Invades

Post by elwaclaret » Wed Mar 09, 2022 11:22 pm

This is interesting, at first I thought it was Minsk trying to avoid getting up to their necks in sanctions, but it seems to be confirmed by Ukrainian sources, thousands are pouring into Ukraine to help… this lot just the latest from Belrussia.

https://twitter.com/hannaliubakova/stat ... 04456?s=21

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by Cubanforever » Wed Mar 09, 2022 11:34 pm

Does anybody know what munitions Russia produces themselves and how they replace what's used already.....how many will they have in stocks.
Apologies if this is a naive question but you see what I'm getting at

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by elwaclaret » Wed Mar 09, 2022 11:40 pm

OSINTtechnical (a very serious following) Is warning there is an increasing threat of Putin turning to chemical warefare - I think that would be the rubicon for NATO.

https://twitter.com/osinttechnical/stat ... 54376?s=21

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by Cubanforever » Wed Mar 09, 2022 11:45 pm

elwaclaret wrote:
Wed Mar 09, 2022 11:40 pm
OSINTtechnical (a very serious following) Is warning there is an increasing threat of Putin turning to chemical warefare - I think that would be the rubicon for NATO.

https://twitter.com/osinttechnical/stat ... 54376?s=21
Saw it earlier but all the noises are that NATO would still hold off.....which would be shameful in my opinion

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