Victor Moses

Jmw · Post by **Jmw** » Sat Mar 26, 2022 12:28 pm

Short term deal blocked by premier league according to Mail

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Sat Mar 26, 2022 12:31 pm

Jmw wrote: ↑
Sat Mar 26, 2022 12:28 pm
Short term deal blocked by premier league according to Mail

No surprise really. As I read it, he's not a free agent but just playing for a club who have been suspended.

bodge · Post by **bodge** » Sat Mar 26, 2022 12:31 pm

Being reported on SSN now.

BFC123 · Post by **BFC123** » Sat Mar 26, 2022 12:40 pm

Blocked due to “sporting integrity”. Ridiculous really, they wouldn’t block us signing a free agent and this deal is allowed under current FIFA/UEFA rules.

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Sat Mar 26, 2022 12:44 pm

PL already facing backlash from fans across social media for this. Wonder if they’ll find a way to let it happen to save face.

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Sat Mar 26, 2022 12:47 pm

Do we know which club?

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Sat Mar 26, 2022 12:49 pm

KRBFC wrote: ↑
Sat Mar 26, 2022 12:47 pm
Do we know which club?

Us

distortiondave · Post by **distortiondave** » Sat Mar 26, 2022 12:49 pm

KRBFC wrote: ↑
Sat Mar 26, 2022 12:47 pm
Do we know which club?

Us, you silly billy.

longside72 · Post by **longside72** » Sat Mar 26, 2022 12:49 pm

Do we know which club?

Us

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Sat Mar 26, 2022 12:49 pm

RVclaret wrote: ↑
Sat Mar 26, 2022 12:49 pm
Us

Just seen it now, be a decent signing until end of season for right midfield.

daveisaclaret · Post by **daveisaclaret** » Sat Mar 26, 2022 12:51 pm

Would be an absolutely brilliant signing. And would get the poor lad out of Moscow.

Seems like a shambolic decision to me.

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Sat Mar 26, 2022 12:52 pm

distortiondave wrote: ↑
Sat Mar 26, 2022 12:49 pm
Us, you silly billy.

silly? which part of that is silly? nobody on here said it was us, just the PL were blocking Moses a move.

DCWat · Post by **DCWat** » Sat Mar 26, 2022 1:02 pm

What’s silly is it’s all a lot too late.

Although I can see the logic for allowing it, I fully get the integrity angle, which I actually agree with.

If and it’s a huge if, he were to come in and keep us up, I’d be mightily ****** off if I were a fan of the club that lost out on survival.

Jakubclaret · Post by **Jakubclaret** » Sat Mar 26, 2022 1:23 pm

DCWat wrote: ↑
Sat Mar 26, 2022 1:02 pm
What’s silly is it’s all a lot too late.

Although I can see the logic for allowing it, I fully get the integrity angle, which I actually agree with.

If and it’s a huge if, he were to come in and keep us up, I’d be mightily ****** off if I were a fan of the club that lost out on survival.

You shouldn’t be if it was possible any club that would have signed him would have demonstrated more resourcefulness & ingenuity than the rest that did nothing, there’s nothing stopping anybody signing free agents in normal circumstances albeit with the russian angle it’s not possible, eg if Norwich were to sign a free agent who happened to be instrumental in overturning their fortunes it’d be fair play & the only anger/annoyance would be directed towards our recruitment for not getting in there sooner.

ceborame · Post by **ceborame** » Sat Mar 26, 2022 1:36 pm

Yet the PL allow a war mongering, head chopping off, dictatorship to bankroll one of our rivals for relegation, that are now steaming away from relegation.

NewClaret · Post by **NewClaret** » Sat Mar 26, 2022 1:43 pm

Didn’t FIFA introduce a window for players of Russian and Ukrainian teams to move? If so, why didn’t the PL just state they wouldn’t be participating?

claretandy · Post by **claretandy** » Sat Mar 26, 2022 1:47 pm

Sheff utd were allowed to sign one.

TheFamilyCat · Post by **TheFamilyCat** » Sat Mar 26, 2022 1:48 pm

Mystic Cat time....

The PL will change their stance on this, by which time another club (probably Everton) will have offered him a better deal and he'll end up there.

TheFamilyCat · Post by **TheFamilyCat** » Sat Mar 26, 2022 1:49 pm

claretandy wrote: ↑
Sat Mar 26, 2022 1:47 pm
Sheff utd were allowed to sign one.

They aren't in the Premier League.

pureclaret · Post by **pureclaret** » Sat Mar 26, 2022 1:49 pm

Chelsea allowed to have him as are Arsenel just terms to be worked out. Oh sorry this is fake news or is it (maybe Im just sceptical that if it was one of the big clubs he would be back and playing and the club given plaudits for rescuing a player and humanatirian award given to them)

GodIsADeeJay81 · Post by **GodIsADeeJay81** » Sat Mar 26, 2022 2:06 pm

TheFamilyCat wrote: ↑
Sat Mar 26, 2022 1:49 pm
They aren't in the Premier League.

They shouldn't be allowed to have different rules for this when they're in the same country

Wokingclaret · Post by **Wokingclaret** » Sat Mar 26, 2022 2:07 pm

Well we can't complain, as Pep says, the rest of Europe ca use more subs

ElectroClaret · Post by **ElectroClaret** » Sat Mar 26, 2022 2:11 pm

I know we need a miracle, but it's going to take more than Moses and Pope...

Conroysleftfoot · Post by **Conroysleftfoot** » Sat Mar 26, 2022 2:14 pm

ElectroClaret wrote: ↑
Sat Mar 26, 2022 2:11 pm
I know we need a miracle, but it's going to take more than Moses and Pope...

Pity we didn't sign Jesus from City in January.

Spiral · Post by **Spiral** » Sat Mar 26, 2022 2:29 pm

Well we've already had a Judas.

Tricky Trevor · Post by **Tricky Trevor** » Sat Mar 26, 2022 2:35 pm

This story is of biblical proportions. Maybe he’s sponsored by Sandals.

gawthorpe_view · Post by **gawthorpe_view** » Sat Mar 26, 2022 3:17 pm

Spiral wrote: ↑
Sat Mar 26, 2022 2:29 pm
Well we've already had a Judas.

Who described himself as Moses!

beddie · Post by **beddie** » Sat Mar 26, 2022 4:33 pm

BFC need to use their “Legal Eagle” to wear the PL down.

thelaughingclaret · Post by **thelaughingclaret** » Sat Mar 26, 2022 4:34 pm

When the premier league talk about “sporting integrity” what they really mean is they don’t want us to take points if Man city, west ham, spurs and now the biggest club of them all Newcastle.
As others have said if a big 7 club came in for him the premier league would be applauding them for “saving” Moses.
Uefa and fifa allow it, as do the football league if sheffield united have done similar so there is no reason whatsoever for the premier league to block this.

Rowls · Post by **Rowls** » Sat Mar 26, 2022 4:35 pm

It's maybe just paranoia but I can't help but feel other clubs would have been allowed to sign a player in the same circumstances.

Stayingup · Post by **Stayingup** » Sat Mar 26, 2022 4:42 pm

ElectroClaret wrote: ↑
Sat Mar 26, 2022 2:11 pm
I know we need a miracle, but it's going to take more than Moses and Pope...

He might yet be told to come forth.

Commy · Post by **Commy** » Sat Mar 26, 2022 5:09 pm

Couldn't they cancel his contract, or, if he really wants to play, he could buy his contract out and he would then be a freeby.

Marty Dobson · Post by **Marty Dobson** » Sat Mar 26, 2022 6:08 pm

Stayingup wrote: ↑
Sat Mar 26, 2022 4:42 pm
He might yet be told to come forth.

Like Lazarus you mean? Mark's a bit too old at this stage.

Conroy92 · Post by **Conroy92** » Sat Mar 26, 2022 7:02 pm

Commy wrote: ↑
Sat Mar 26, 2022 5:09 pm
Couldn't they cancel his contract, or, if he really wants to play, he could buy his contract out and he would then be a freeby.

Hopefully we are exploring the loop holes!

pushpinpussy · Post by **pushpinpussy** » Sat Mar 26, 2022 7:35 pm

thank god the prem league have come to their senses. well done

agreenwood · Post by **agreenwood** » Sat Mar 26, 2022 7:46 pm

Statement from the Premier League:

“An application from Burnley Football Club to register Victor Moses has been rejected on the grounds of sporting integrity. In making the decision we noted Burnley’s predilection for signing tricenarians and we’re concerned that they will all soon retire within a short window, leaving the club unable to fulfil its fixtures”.

Sozturf7 · Post by **Sozturf7** » Sat Mar 26, 2022 7:56 pm

Would someone please translate the Premier league statement into plain English for me.

Darnhill Claret · Post by **Darnhill Claret** » Sat Mar 26, 2022 7:59 pm

You mean the agreenwood statement?

bf2k · Post by **bf2k** » Sat Mar 26, 2022 8:10 pm

agreenwood wrote: ↑
Sat Mar 26, 2022 7:46 pm
Statement from the Premier League:

“An application from Burnley Football Club to register Victor Moses has been rejected on the grounds of sporting integrity. In making the decision we noted Burnley’s predilection for signing tricenarians and we’re concerned that they will all soon retire within a short window, leaving the club unable to fulfil its fixtures”.

Eh???

beddie · Post by **beddie** » Sat Mar 26, 2022 8:13 pm

agreenwood wrote: ↑
Sat Mar 26, 2022 7:46 pm
Statement from the Premier League:

“An application from Burnley Football Club to register Victor Moses has been rejected on the grounds of sporting integrity. In making the decision we noted Burnley’s predilection for signing tricenarians and we’re concerned that they will all soon retire within a short window, leaving the club unable to fulfil its fixtures”.

Is this for real?

agreenwood · Post by **agreenwood** » Sat Mar 26, 2022 8:15 pm

beddie wrote: ↑
Sat Mar 26, 2022 8:13 pm
Is this for real?

No.

Bigvince · Post by **Bigvince** » Sat Mar 26, 2022 8:16 pm

WHOOOSH!!!

Sozturf7 · Post by **Sozturf7** » Sat Mar 26, 2022 8:17 pm

Not the first of April yet!

Rowls · Post by **Rowls** » Sat Mar 26, 2022 8:18 pm

pushpinpussy wrote: ↑
Sat Mar 26, 2022 7:35 pm
thank god the prem league have come to their senses. well done

Is this satire or is there an update whereby we're allowed to sign him?

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Sat Mar 26, 2022 8:36 pm

Prem out of order. The player is a free agent, technically and like free agents, entitled to work in his home country.

Employment law should overrule prem ad hoc decision making.

If any of the top teams, there would be a different reaction, as we all know.

Newcastleclaret93 · Post by **Newcastleclaret93** » Sat Mar 26, 2022 8:41 pm

IanMcL wrote: ↑
Sat Mar 26, 2022 8:36 pm
Prem out of order. The player is a free agent, technically and like free agents, entitled to work in his home country.

Employment law should overrule prem ad hoc decision making.

If any of the top teams, there would be a different reaction, as we all know.

Is he technically a free agent though? I thought UEFA had just opened up an emergency transfer window to allow players to leave.

Bosscat · Post by **Bosscat** » Sat Mar 26, 2022 8:44 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑
Sat Mar 26, 2022 8:41 pm
Is he technically a free agent though? I thought UEFA had just opened up an emergency transfer window to allow players to leave.

Agreed Nc I thought they had made exceptions

daveisaclaret · Post by **daveisaclaret** » Sat Mar 26, 2022 8:46 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑
Sat Mar 26, 2022 8:41 pm
Is he technically a free agent though? I thought UEFA had just opened up an emergency transfer window to allow players to leave.

Yes, they're considered free agents by FIFA until the end of June.

Newcastleclaret93 · Post by **Newcastleclaret93** » Sat Mar 26, 2022 8:52 pm

daveisaclaret wrote: ↑
Sat Mar 26, 2022 8:46 pm
Yes, they're considered free agents by FIFA until the end of June.

That’s not correct Dave. I’ve just checked the players will still be under contract at there parent Russian football club, there contract will be suspended to allow them to temporarily play for another club.

It’s not as simple as they are just an out of contract player

daveisaclaret · Post by **daveisaclaret** » Sat Mar 26, 2022 8:54 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑
Sat Mar 26, 2022 8:52 pm
That’s not correct Dave. I’ve just checked the players will still be under contract at there parent Russian football club, there contract will be suspended to allow them to temporarily play for another club.

It’s not as simple as they are just an out of contract player

https://www.fifa.com/about-fifa/organis ... ss-several

"The suspension of a contract as per the paragraphs above will mean that players and coaches will be considered “out of contract” until 30 June 2022 and will therefore be at liberty to sign a contract with another club without facing consequences of any kind."