Go now Dyche

[davetheclaret]

There aren’t many managers who have been in charge as long as Dyche had, so the sample size is tiny. However, there’s a distinct feeling of staleness about all we do.

I don’t actively want him gone, but if it was announced tomorrow that he was leaving in the summer, I wouldn’t be concerned.

Stale is very much the word i would use agreenwood,they had 2 big lads in Hanley and Gibson and we keep hoofing balls into their box and some say we don't play hoofball, its all Westwoods done for ages hit hope balls.

[bf2k]

Stale is very much the word i would use agreenwood,they had 2 big lads in Hanley and Gibson and we keep hoofing balls into their box and some say we don't play hoofball, its all Westwoods done for ages hit hope balls.

And that style of football hasn't worked for ages either. We've always played direct football under Dyche but we used to hit the right balls forward for the right players. Now its up high regardless of whether it's a 6'6" forward or a 5'6" forward up top.

Dyche's interview after the Everton game puzzled me. He made reference to the type of balls forward not always being the right ones which tells me the players were the ones playing their own style of play, not a style to his instructions.

[warksclaret]

We played our best football under Dyche when he had Defour at his disposal. Why didn't he build on that? It's because he's a negative manager who can't help what he is.

Thats very true-hard to beat and an element of creativity and class. The fact we have had about 5 years to find another "Steven Defour" says everything about our club. Lacking in vision and planning. Instead we now have two ageing CM's in Westwood and Cork, and Brownhill who at best is combative but posseses little creativity. We have gone backwards in CM from a period when we had Defour,a young and energetic Hendrick and a Cork (the latter at the top of his game and rewarded with an England cap)

[IanMcL]

We saw in our championship season, that our manager is very capable of playing, winning, expansive, football.

Being in anyone else and you lose half a season, while they fanny about. We only have one go at a return, most probably.

Dyche is a very claddy manager, with footballers all praising his management.

As for not replacing Defour, see previous chairman thread.

[davetheclaret]

If we play the same balls into the box against West Ham Dawson and Zoumar will lap it up. Now i may get shot down for what im about to say next but for me replacing Westwood with McNeil could well be a start to stopping the aimless balls, weather he would just play square or backwards balls to Taylor or Lawton for them to hoof forward i don't know but he would bring some energy into midfield and he can find a pass, i think he'd get forward more as well. Many will say it isn't the right time to make such a change things, and tha'ts a fair point, but if we don't change things we'll continue to have the same outcome.

[randomclaret2]

If we play the same balls into the box against West Ham Dawson and Zoumar will lap it up. Now i may get shot down for what im about to say next but for me replacing Westwood with McNeil could well be a start to stopping the aimless balls, weather he would just play square or backwards balls to Taylor or Lawton for them to hoof forward i don't know but he would bring some energy into midfield and he can find a pass, i think he'd get forward more as well. Many will say it isn't the right time to make such a change things, and tha'ts a fair point, but if we don't change things we'll continue to have the same outcome.

Nothing to lose...we're going down with a whimper as things stand

[Lowbankclaret]

Can you blame people for wanting a change from watching league Two standard football with 14 wins from the past 68 games?

Times change, there was more a feel good factor around the club the last few times, without mentioning it was over 6 seasons ago.

I humbly suggest we blame Garlick for our midfield that’s not up to the challenge, not SD.

[boatshed bill]

I humbly suggest we blame Garlick for our midfield that’s not up to the challenge, not SD.

Yes, in the last 18 months he has been conspicuous in his absence

[RVclaret]

I humbly suggest we blame Garlick for our midfield that’s not up to the challenge, not SD.

I think that’s pretty harsh. What if Garlick was willing to spend but Dyche reluctant to pull the trigger on certain players? What if player X and Y, who Garlick was prepared to sign, didn’t want to join Burnley because of our style of play? What if the said players didn’t want to join Burnley as they know they have to wait 10 games or an injury / suspension to get a game?

And why not blame Pace and co? They spent close to 40m this season but not a single penny on a midfielder. Why? Or Is it Dyche who doesn’t see that position as a priority? Was he happy to go with Westy, Browny and Corky?

[Elizabeth]

Was he happy to go with Westy, Browny and Corky?

Were you just miffed he didn't start with McNeill yesterday? A player who has done the square root of nothing this season
You told us all on the match thread yesterday what a genius you are when McNeill put his one good ball in this season . You have too high an opinion of what you think you know I would offer

[RVclaret]

Were you just miffed he didn't start with McNeill yesterday? A player who has done the square root of nothing this season
You told us all on the match thread yesterday what a genius you are when McNeill put his one good ball in this season . You have too high an opinion of what you think you know I would offer

Definitely should have started our most creative player / only player capable of delivering quality against a side who were looking to sit deep, that’s for sure. Another poor move from Dyche who is quite inflexible when it comes to adapting to opposition.

[Lowbankclaret]

I think that’s pretty harsh. What if Garlick was willing to spend but Dyche reluctant to pull the trigger on certain players? What if player X and Y, who Garlick was prepared to sign, didn’t want to join Burnley because of our style of play? What if the said players didn’t want to join Burnley as they know they have to wait 10 games or an injury / suspension to get a game?

And why not blame Pace and co? They spent close to 40m this season but not a single penny on a midfielder. Why? Or Is it Dyche who doesn’t see that position as a priority? Was he happy to go with Westy, Browny and Corky?

Mr Garlick saved 50 million in Burnley’s bank, which went straight into his bank account on the sale of the club. I am sure that would have bought a good midfielder..

[RVclaret]

Mr Garlick saved 50 million in Burnley’s bank, which went straight into his bank account on the sale of the club. I am sure that would have bought a good midfielder..

That’s a completely inaccurate statement and if you’d been following any of the finance related threads you might know why

[Lowbankclaret]

That’s a completely inaccurate statement and if you’d been following any of the finance related threads you might know why

Perhaps you can link the relevant part. It was kind of how I understood it. Feel free to re-educate me.