Big news coming soon from the Turf (Sean Dyche sacked)

[fidelcastro]

interesting that Simon Jordan said he knows Dyche would have walked to Palace but they never came in for him

Hope you're well Viva!

Who is your choice to replace Dyche on this sad day?

[hoskinsgoalatswansea]

There’s not much about all of this that isn’t baffling, but the oddest part for me is the removal of Billy Mercer. As far as I know he’s not involved with tactics or any significant part of the match day set up. All he seems to be responsible for is developing keepers, and with a track record that speaks for itself. I’d really like to know Pace’s reasoning for including his removal as a solution for trying to turn results around.

[superdimitri]

There’s not much about all of this that isn’t baffling, but the oddest part for me is the removal of Billy Mercer. As far as I know he’s not involved with tactics or any significant part of the match day set up. All he seems to be responsible for is developing keepers, and with a track record that speaks for itself. I’d really like to know Pace’s reasoning for including his removal as a solution for trying to turn results around.

I don't think it really works like that. Mercer will have left because of Dyche leaving, not because he was pushed specifically himself.

[ClaretAndJew]

Wasn't Mercer here even longer than Dyche though? A complete backroom staff removal is some serious business and I only hope there's a plan.

[hoskinsgoalatswansea]

I don't think it really works like that. Mercer will have left because of Dyche leaving, not because he was pushed specifically himself.

I don’t think that’s the case. They’re not all piled in to one contract. That’s why assistant managers often take over for interim periods. So I don’t see why Mercer had to go. I think Pace, in his infinite wisdom, decided to have a full clear out of anyone connected with the first team.

[jojomk1]

Management teams are exactly that - a team
Dyche is the head of their gravy train so Woan and Mercer will follow knowing they have a pay off and another salary just around the corner

[hoskinsgoalatswansea]

Management teams are exactly that - a team
Dyche is the head of their gravy train so Woan and Mercer will follow knowing they have a pay off and another salary just around the corner

They don’t get to decide to be fired with the coach. That decision is the chairman’s. They can choose to walk in a case of solidarity with the manager but that would negate any pay off. Pace could have fired any combination of them.

[Vegas Claret]

Hope you're well Viva!

Who is your choice to replace Dyche on this sad day?

i'm ok bud, hope you are ??

Replacing Dyche, honestly mate I don't have the foggiest idea who they should go for. Do they go short term to try and stay up or go with a longer term vision, younger guy who is happy to bring in younger players ? I'd choose the later personally but can't give you a name as I don't see any outstanding candidates. Do you have any thoughts ? (on Burnley, not in general !!)

[Vegas Claret]

interesting article in the Daily Mail (yes I know it's the Mail but I genuinely believe there is no smoke without fire) https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footb ... G8p449TsTU

[Hibsclaret]

There’s no smoke without fire for sure but I really fail to grasp the conjecture supplied by that article which suggests the start of losing the dressing room occurred over 3 years ago given we were beating Spurs a few weeks ago. One thing that IMO has never been done is the loss of the dressing room under Dyche. Even just the other week we have players shouting we are not dead yet.

[JohnMcGreal]

interesting article in the Daily Mail (yes I know it's the Mail but I genuinely believe there is no smoke without fire) https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footb ... G8p449TsTU

What a poorly written article. How did that get published?

[colne-claret]

There’s no smoke without fire for sure but I really fail to grasp the conjecture supplied by that article which suggests the start of losing the dressing room occurred over 3 years ago given we were beating Spurs a few weeks ago. One thing that IMO has never been done is the loss of the dressing room under Dyche. Even just the other week we have players shouting we are not dead yet.

I've had it confirmed from some very good sources that the players were thrilled with yesterday's news. Training apparently has been woeful and players were unhappy.

[Hibsclaret]

Ahh Simon Jordan the man who believes Palace are a bigger club than Burnley. Dyche never left to join a similar sized club to ours when he was probably given the opportunity which says a lot for him given that he may actually get a bigger job now.

[Hibsclaret]

I've had it confirmed from some very good sources that the players were thrilled with yesterday's news. Training apparently has been woeful and players were unhappy.

Not sure what that has to do with my comments about the article.

I’m sure some players weren’t happy if they weren’t playing or even if they were in a losing side. That is the case at every club in the country. Isn’t Fernandinho unhappy at Man City, for example. We can all start mentioning players without naming them to add more conjecture but the fact is we had a manager that was the envy of probably 90%+ of the football league and now we are in a mess.

[claretandy]

interesting article in the Daily Mail (yes I know it's the Mail but I genuinely believe there is no smoke without fire) https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footb ... G8p449TsTU

This was discussed at length yesterday, sorry if you missed it, the same journalist is Pace's go to guy and was also on 5 live saying similar.

[IanMcL]

Met a fellow Claret on my cruise ship. "Like a death on the family" were his words.

I am still of the same opinion today.
Yanks go home.

[RVclaret]

Met a fellow Claret on my cruise ship. "Like a death on the family" were his words.

I am still of the same opinion today.
Yanks go home.

Get a grip

[Nonayforever]

Been thinking about the somewhat bizarre situation overnight and maybe there isn't a plan because a situation arose that called for the management team to be sacked quite quickly.
If it was a every growing disenchantment with the football or the results, surely they would have come to a mutual consent agreement. That would also imply the board has a plan.

[BurnleyFC]

I've had it confirmed from some very good sources that the players were thrilled with yesterday's news. Training apparently has been woeful and players were unhappy.

Again, if there’s any ounce of truth to this then ******** to them.

Barring a couple of players the majority of our squad are either washed up has beens or completely dog ****.

They’re not suddenly going to turn into world beaters now Dyche has gone.

[RVclaret]

I've had it confirmed from some very good sources that the players were thrilled with yesterday's news. Training apparently has been woeful and players were unhappy.

Athletic article by Andy Jones just published also suggests this to be the case, though he doesn’t go as far thrilled.

[CoolClaret]

Woke up and feel just as **** as I did yesterday upon hearing the news.

I’d back Dyche over a load of underperforming divas - that’s for sure

[NewClaret]

Again, if there’s any ounce of truth to this then ******** to them.

Barring a couple of players the majority of our squad are either washed up has beens or completely dog ****.

They’re not suddenly going to turn into world beaters now Dyche has gone.

Can’t agree with this at all.

Our football (results aside, which have sometimes been poor sometimes okay) has been dire for some time. Hard to pinpoint as it’s been a slow regression, but it’s looked awful. I’ve felt sorry for Cornet & Wout having the ball lumped in to them. If the training is as dire as the play on weekends then I can see why they’d get tired of it. We know they can play better & there’s some very decent players in there who are underperforming - Dwight being the obvious candidate but there are others.

I’m not happy about the decision or timing either but I don’t think vitriol towards the players is warranted, especially given none of us know the dressing room circumstances.

[NewClaret]

Another sacking too this afternoon I’m told but not yet reported

Matt Williams is my guess.

[Les Lawrence]

Maybe they've had a look at last year's accounts,and thought why are we paying them so much for getting us relegated.Doesnt Dyche make a bit on sale of any players?Sure I read that somewhere (pretty sure I will get corrected if wrong)

[Steve-Harpers-perm]

Athletic article by Andy Jones just published also suggests this to be the case, though he doesn’t go as far thrilled.

Just read the article which suggests things had gone ‘stale’ and the players ‘no longer wanted to run through a brick wall for Dyche’.

[FeedTheArf]

Athletic article by Andy Jones just published also suggests this to be the case, though he doesn’t go as far thrilled.

Can you post the article?

[bumba]

Just read the article which suggests things had gone ‘stale’ and the players ‘no longer wanted to run through a brick wall for Dyche’.

I said yesterday a player had text his brother with an upbeat text that he'd gone. A lot of the players were unhappy because he had favourites and the training was boring. A lot of it was more aimed at Woan which I touched upon months ago and got shot down.
It wasn't a happy camp, if we now stay up Pace deserves huge credit

[Gordaleman]

Any news on the press conference. Someone said 8-30 am today but there's nothing on the official site.

[Steve-Harpers-perm]

Any news on the press conference. Someone said 8-30 am today but there's nothing on the official site.

Just a few tweets from Boden. Mee and Pieters still not fit!

[Gordaleman]

Just a few tweets from Boden. Mee and Pieters still not fit!

Cheers.

[uptheclarets86]

Any news on the press conference. Someone said 8-30 am today but there's nothing on the official site.

Just been on sky sports news.

[yosserhughes]

Who's Matt Williams ?

[KRBFC]

So it appears Dyche (or more specifically Woan and Stone) lost the dressing room, had bust up with several players etc Seems like ALK really didn't have a choice if true

[Denno97]

The Athletic article mentioned Chief Scout Martin Hodges leaving. Not sure if that’s who CT is referring too

[RVclaret]

Can you post the article?

Dont think we are allowed to copy and paste it here but here is the link:

https://t.co/Lyh6uK9FsO

A small phrase from it though which stands out

“the methods which had served Dyche, so well had become ‘stale’. The gap between the players and the coaching staff, manager included, has just got bigger and bigger as the season went on”

[clarethomer]

Seen some extracts posted on social media from The Athletic stating that there was a feeling that Dyche had lost the dressing room. Not in a disharmonious way but just there was a growing number fed up of the same approach and that they were less willing to run through walls for SD and his team.

[clarethomer]

Also that the training session following his removal
Has seen renewed energy, freedom and focus.

[gandhisflipflop]

Dont think we are allowed to copy and paste it here but here is the link:

https://t.co/Lyh6uK9FsO

A small phrase from it though which stands out

“the methods which had served Dyche, so well had become ‘stale’. The gap between the players and the coaching staff, manager included, has just got bigger and bigger as the season went on”

Please copy and paste

[bpgburn]

Met a fellow Claret on my cruise ship. "Like a death on the family" were his words.

I am still of the same opinion today.
Yanks go home.

Jesus Wept!! Nothing even remotely like a death in the family, he's not family and he's not dead. I bet his missus was chuffed to hear that the Burnley Manager being sacked couldn't have upset him any more than if she or a family member was to die tomorrow ffs!

[Paul Waine]

Woke up this morning, after a good night's sleep. My covid-19 is getting a lot easier - though still some regular coughing. Thought of West Ham v Burnley this weekend, then remembered that Sean Dyche won't be picking the team. Onwards and upwards, new adventures ahead.

UTC

[Pearcey]

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[BurnleyFC]

Can’t agree with this at all.

Our football (results aside, which have sometimes been poor sometimes okay) has been dire for some time. Hard to pinpoint as it’s been a slow regression, but it’s looked awful. I’ve felt sorry for Cornet & Wout having the ball lumped in to them. If the training is as dire as the play on weekends then I can see why they’d get tired of it. We know they can play better & there’s some very decent players in there who are underperforming - Dwight being the obvious candidate but there are others.

I’m not happy about the decision or timing either but I don’t think vitriol towards the players is warranted, especially given none of us know the dressing room circumstances.

Unhappy or not, it shouldn’t affect your ability to accurately pass a football 10 yards.

The proof of the pudding will be the performances in the remaining fixtures, I suppose.

[Father Jack]

One of the most telling parts:

“It reached the point that upon Dyche’s exit yesterday multiple sources told The Athletic that he had lost the full support of the dressing room and that fresh impetus and ideas were needed.

This was not a mutiny but a feeling among some players that they no longer wanted to run through brick walls for the manager.”

[Paul Waine]

Met a fellow Claret on my cruise ship. "Like a death on the family" were his words.

I am still of the same opinion today.
Yanks go home.

Agatha Christie cruise line, by any chance, Ian?

Say "hi" to Monsieur Poirot!

[jrgbfc]

One of the most telling parts:

“It reached the point that upon Dyche’s exit yesterday multiple sources told The Athletic that he had lost the full support of the dressing room and that fresh impetus and ideas were needed.

This was not a mutiny but a feeling among some players that they no longer wanted to run through brick walls for the manager.”

Tbf I think that's been obvious just watching us this season. Hasn't looked a happy camp to me.

[Murger]

We have some of THE worst supporters in any division, the smugness levels of the Dyche out brigade is truly sickening.
It should be printed on their season tickets so we all know who to avoid.

What a pathetic response. We are Burnley FC supporters, not Dyche FC supporters. If it bothers you that much that people aren't as bothered as you that he's gone, why not hand your season ticket back in and follow Dyche with wherever he goes?

[Burnley1989]

Just read the article which suggests things had gone ‘stale’ and the players ‘no longer wanted to run through a brick wall for Dyche’.

I heard a few stories, pointless posting as you get jumped all over.

For me I’d imagine the owners will have sat down with the senior players and new signings and asked for their opinion on why the results were bad, that’s what business owners do

[Claretmisterg]

A number of posters have been suggesting throughout the season that the loss of Loughlan and promotion of Stone may have been a factor in poor(er) performances. Cannot help wondering whether that has also been a factor in the rumoured rift between team and coaching staff now being reported.

[Burnley1989]

So it appears Dyche (or more specifically Woan and Stone) lost the dressing room, had bust up with several players etc Seems like ALK really didn't have a choice if true

More stories will come out about Woan

[clarethomer]

Tbf I think that's been obvious just watching us this season. Hasn't looked a happy camp to me.

Agree.

Ball to mee, it’s either going to the left back or to tarks. If it goes to the left back it’s then seeing Westwood move to offer an option if there isn’t a forward pass or space for him to go. It will eventually go back to pope to go direct if we haven’t managed to get the ball up the field.

I thought I was imagining the predictable and patterns all over the pitch I was seeing in our play. I’m not anyone who has experience of assessing tactics but even I think I could point out how we play and how to nullify a lot of what we do.