Transfer Rumours Thread - NO FINANCIAL DISCUSSION

[clarethomer]

Duplicate post - apols

[Jakubclaret]

Not for the first time it seems that Cornet's release clause is predicated on it being in one payment. That's a good thing because it obviously gives us a some leverage to negotiate with clubs that wishes to stage payments. It appears both Everton and Newcastle are in the same boat due to FFP. Feels like only a matter of time before Cornet leaves though.

That’s something we would need to agree on with the other club & mutually accept.

[RVclaret]

There's talk up there of Anderson staying and being involved with their first team. He's been heavily involved in their friendlies and they think he's too good to loan out.

Yes I saw Howe say yesterday it’s unlikely he’ll be leaving, or at least no decision will be made until late on in the window. Think he has done quite well in pre season.

[taio]

That’s something we would need to agree on with the other club & mutually accept.

Yes obviously hence my reference to negotiation

[burnley007]

Elliott Anderson from Newcastle linked by Nixon.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9f2dOqnEOxI

Looks decent.

[Jakubclaret]

Yes obviously hence my reference to negotiation

Both clubs would have to accept the terms of the sale for the transfer to go ahead & MC agreeing also. 1 lump sum would probably be more preferable to Lyon who probably have an outside interest.

[Newcastleclaret93]

I’m assuming it’s a loan deal.

My mates reckon he’s going to be top quality in a few years

[FeedTheArf]

Hypothetically if Lyon had a 20% sell on clause for Cornet and we loan him out for a season for say £5m, would Lyon get £1m or do sell on clauses only come into play when a player is transferred? Assume for arguments sake it’s just a straight 20%, not 20% of profit.

Logically I’d say that loan fees would count as otherwise we could loan him for £17.5m this season with an obligation to buy for £0 and get around it.

Though it would never happen for a million reasons, a behind the scenes look at a contract negotiation would be fascinating! The closest I’ve seen is that video of Barry Fry from years ago and I’d like to think things have become a bit more sophisticated since!

[taio]

Both clubs would have to accept the terms of the sale for the transfer to go ahead & MC agreeing also. 1 lump sum would probably be more preferable to Lyon who probably have an outside interest.

If a club meets the release clause then both clubs don't need to accept - it's a matter for the buying club and Cornet. If a club doesn't want to meet the terms of the release clause then yes, obviously, the three parties need to agree for the sale to happen.

[Colburn_Claret]

Could t be a more suited club for Dyche to go too. Follow in the footsteps of his tactical doppelgänger Tony Pulis

My mate loved Pullis, horses for courses

[Jakubclaret]

If a club meets the release clause then both clubs don't need to accept - it's a matter for the buying club and Cornet. If a club doesn't want to meet the terms of the release clause then yes, obviously, the three parties need to agree for the sale to happen.

That’s true but anything below 17.5 we are in the box seat in terms of making a decision & could refuse & even then a certain maxwel cornet needs to sit down with that club (if accepted) & agree personal terms himself, I’m hoping what I’m reading is true & a few clubs are interested in the hope of getting the maximum as I’m already resigned that he’s going anyway before window ends.

[taio]

That’s true but anything below 17.5 we are in the box seat in terms of making a decision & could refuse & even then a certain maxwel cornet needs to sit down with that club (if accepted) & agree personal terms himself, I’m hoping what I’m reading is true & a few clubs are interested in the hope of getting the maximum as I’m already resigned that he’s going anyway before window ends.

Yes, hence saying if a club doesn't want to meet the terms of the release clause then yes, obviously, the three parties need to agree for the sale to happen.

[Nori1958]

Reports in Belgium that a deal is close to being agreed for Manuel Benson and he could be a Burnley player this week

He is not in Antwerp squad for their next game

[Hipper]

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[Hipper]

Reports in Belgium that a deal is close to being agreed for Manuel Benson and he could be a Burnley player this week

But where would he play?

In England I'd guess.

[claptrappers_union]

Noah Ohio - 19yo striker at Leipzig, apparently all set to join Liege today but we're trying to make a last minute bid to lure him here.
https://www.dhnet.be/sports/football/di ... kc.twitter

Turns out he was a genuine target, he turned down Burnley before he signed for Standard Liege -

“Just before my transfer, I had contacts with Vincent Kompany. He absolutely wanted me to sign in Burnley. But my choice had already been made and Vincent Kompany was disappointed. I chose the club where I thought I could make the most progress."

https://www.7sur7.be/football-belge/noa ... ~a0fe7d85/

[mkmel]

Only one game in I know but plenty of optimism and hopefully exciting times ahead.

Enjoy the ride.

[CrosspoolClarets]

The great thing about that young Dutch lad is that while that ship has sailed this time it shows the calibre we are looking at, with Kompany pulling power probably vital. The bookies may be overpricing us at this rate, it seems probable we will get someone very good.

[RidgeClaret]

Sunderland press saying rumours O'Hare has hamstring injury???

[RVclaret]

Sunderland press saying rumours O'Hare has hamstring injury???

Yes this was discussed quite a lot on this thread yesterday

Looks like we’ll need new targets

[Hedontplayforyou]

I’d imagine in that Costelloe role from Saturday.

I don’t think we will play all four centre midfielders like that every game, I think the Brownhill/Bastien roles from Friday will include the likes of Twine/Benson(if he joins) from time to time to break down opposition .

[claretandy]

Sepp Van Den Berg linked according to Nixon, i can't keep up !

[Claret Alfie]

Nixon linking us with Van Den Berg from Liverpool. He was on loan at Preston last season. Centre back.

[RVclaret]

I don’t think we will play all four centre midfielders like that every game, I think the Brownhill/Bastien roles from Friday will include the likes of Twine/Benson(if he joins) from time to time to break down opposition .

Yes agree. The 4 like that will be useful in games to provide real control but maybe lacks the killer finishing that Twine and Benson will (hopefully) provide.

[Murger]

I'm struggling to understand the need for so many centre backs.

[RVclaret]

I'm struggling to understand the need for so many centre backs.

Yeah I don’t really get it to be honest. We already have enough, especially if Taylor is slotting in there too. Yet still more defensive links and literally zero striker!

[Conroy92]

Still think there may be a couple more to go yet! Cornet looks a goner and I'd be shocked now we've stocked up on full backs if one of Roberts, Lowton or Taylor doesn't go.

If it's Taylor then I could see the need to sign another centre half.

With Benson looking like he's signing then really for me it's down to the striker position. As much as I'd like Delap a permanent additions is really what we need. Would like to see is stump up £10mil or so for the right man and feel that's realistic with the rest of the business considered. The two names that I like the look of (mainly from reading on here) Piroe and Zirkzee. Would ten be enough to land either of these players?

[NewClaret]

Yeah I don’t really get it to be honest. We already have enough, especially if Taylor is slotting in there too. Yet still more defensive links and literally zero striker!

Can only imagine they’re working on a few strikers that have other interest? Or we need to sell Maxi first?

[claretandy]

Confirmed, no O'Hare for Coventry, lots of there fans think he's off...

[ksrclaret]

I'm struggling to understand the need for so many centre backs.

I could understand the links to centre backs if they were left sided, as Kompany obviously wants one and played Taylor there ahead of his own signings.

This Liverpool lad appears to be very much right-sided from the info I've just look at. Puzzling but assume there is a plan.

[RVclaret]

Both Piroe and Zirkzee, while being good players, operate more as a deep lying striker, Piroe even operates in the 10 in Swans system. For me, we already have Barnes, Jay and Twine who’s strengths are more linking play deep than making runs in behind / in the channels stretching play. I personally want a striker in the Gray /Ings ilk who will make those runs, as we will certainly have the players in behind to make the passes.

[Murger]

Confirmed, no O'Hare for Coventry, lots of there fans think he's off...

I thought he was injured.

[RVclaret]

I thought he was injured.

Mark Robins has said he tweaked his hamstring in training and they are waiting to see how it settles down

[taio]

Yes this was discussed quite a lot on this thread yesterday

Looks like we’ll need new targets

If he genuinely has a hamstring injury not sure it'd mean the end of our interest - might just delay it toward the end of the window.

[Hedontplayforyou]

Anderson looks a handy player, highly thought of at toon, could we be haggling the Cornet deal and trying to add him into a potential swap + cash?

[agreenwood]

Coventry describing O’Hare’s injury as a “tweak”, which wouldn’t be a deal breaker if we’re still interested.

[Hedontplayforyou]

Coventry describing O’Hare’s injury as a “tweak”, which wouldn’t be a deal breaker if we’re still interested.

It could also be nonsense, and Burnley have asked them not to play him to risk injury before a transfer ?

[RVclaret]

Coventry describing O’Hare’s injury as a “tweak”, which wouldn’t be a deal breaker if we’re still interested.

Yep fair point.

After seeing us on Friday it made me want him even more, aside from his creativity he has the best pressing / defensive stats for an attacker in the league, clear why VK would want him given the way we pressed.

[Dodobdobodobo]

He is not in Antwerp squad for their next game

Taken from todays hin.be football section:-
No Benson at Antwerp: transfer to Burnley is getting closer
Don't look for Manuel Benson in Antwerp's selection for tonight against Zulte Waregem. The 25-year-old winger, who provided the 0-1 assist in the European match against Drita on Thursday, is being left aside because a transfer to the English second division team Burnley is getting closer and closer. The team of coach Vincent Kompany is willing to put four million euros on the table. That transfer amount is not quite what Antwerp has in mind, but it is already getting close. Benson himself is also looking forward to a switch to England. In order not to run the risk of injury, the sharp winger will not be in action later.

[Goalposts]

Newcastle i believe are offering Elliot as part of the cornet deal ,on loan , but Vincent only has 3 more loan positions and we are more interested in permanent , as he still needs a loan space for delap. Benson i think will get over the line , Ohare has been priced out by Coventry as we can get 2-3 players in for the price and we need some depth so genuinely think that one is dead

[BigChaCha]

I'm struggling to understand the need for so many centre-backs.

Yeah, I don’t really get it to be honest. We already have enough, especially if Taylor is slotting in there too. Yet still more defensive links and literally zero strikers!

Because Kompany obviously doesn't rate Long or thinks he can't play in this system and will be looking to ship him out...

Egan-Riley is more of a utility back, not a dedicated centre-back and he's said as much himself. He's extremely lightweight and short for a dedicated centre-half of which he is not!... He's also only 19, has virtually no experience at this level and above and has played all over the park previously for his last club, including right-back and as a holding midfielder...

McNally has never played at this level or above and will take a season or two to get established and maybe Kompany doesn't think he is ready yet at just 22 with no experience at this level...

Harwood-Bellis has a ridiculous amount of experience for his age and fitted in well in his first game but hardly a surprise when he's considered one of the best centre-backs in his age group in the country...

Charlie Taylor played there when he's never really played there so you could say that he is out of his natural position... He'll do a job in a professional manner...

So we really only have Taylor and Harwood-Bellis with the experience at this level or above in the centre-half position and the age of those defenders apart from Taylor is incredibly young... Most are very lightweight for a central defender, even including Taylor and we lack height there as an option in defence or attack. We will get found out in a lot of games this season against certain teams if we only have these lightweight and mostly inexperienced players as the only option... We also lack options in the left-sided central defence spot so we 100% need options there, preferably experienced at this level or above and preferably an absolute beat in terms of physicality...

There is also still a very good chance that we lose Taylor and/or Roberts so better to be proactive in that department...

I can also remember us being linked to at least 5 strikers this window, so saying 'literally zero strikers' is not true.

[EarbyClaret]

Maybe some kind of buy-back option might be the way to go with Newcastle and Anderson

[claretburns]

I think the O'Hare injury is a load of nonsense, either he has asked not to play or the clubs are close to agreeing a fee and Cov don't want to risk him to miss out on the transfer fee if he gets a bad injury.

[BigChaCha]

Coventry describes O’Hare’s injury as a “tweak”, which wouldn’t be a deal breaker if we’re still interested.

It could also be nonsense, and Burnley has asked them not to play him to risk injury before a transfer.

The deal would have to be extremely close for that to happen.

[claretburns]

Newcastle i believe are offering Elliot as part of the cornet deal ,on loan , but Vincent only has 3 more loan positions and we are more interested in permanent , as he still needs a loan space for delap. Benson i think will get over the line , Ohare has been priced out by Coventry as we can get 2-3 players in for the price and we need some depth so genuinely think that one is dead

I think we can forget about the Delap on loan deal, in advanced talks to sign for Stoke.

[jojomk1]

Newcastle i believe are offering Elliot as part of the cornet deal ,on loan , but Vincent only has 3 more loan positions and we are more interested in permanent , as he still needs a loan space for delap. Benson i think will get over the line , Ohare has been priced out by Coventry as we can get 2-3 players in for the price and we need some depth so genuinely think that one is dead

Delap being strongly linked with Stoke this morning

If Leeds have not got cover for Jnr Firpo then there is still a thought that Taylor could go back there

[NewClaret]

Delap being strongly linked with Stoke this morning

If Leeds have not got cover for Jnr Firpo then there is still a thought that Taylor could go back there

Fabrizio said he was in advanced talks with Stoke yesterday.

[claretandy]

Kompany said we are close to a couple, but he wants 4 or 5 in total.

[Rileybobs]

Has it ever been suggested anywhere that we’re even interested in Delap?

[Claret Alfie]

Has it ever been suggested anywhere that we’re even interested in Delap?

Just Fabrizio Romano a few weeks ago, I think. Linked us for a loan move and Southampton wanted to buy.