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Re: Game postponed

Post by Boss Hogg » Fri Sep 09, 2022 12:22 pm

Grass roots football matches now cancelled. I’ll take him to the park and play football instead 🙄

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Re: Game postponed

Post by claret2018 » Fri Sep 09, 2022 12:31 pm

forzagranata wrote:
Fri Sep 09, 2022 11:55 am
It depends whether we are a serious nation or not.

This is not the same as being upset at a celebrity dying.
I’m sorry but that’s absolutely what it is

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Re: Game postponed

Post by Rileybobs » Fri Sep 09, 2022 12:33 pm

NottsClaret wrote:
Fri Sep 09, 2022 12:14 pm
Genuinely selfish decision that. Putting a desire to look ‘respectful’ over kids health and enjoyment. Who the hell thinks she’d have wanted anything like this?
Complete joke.

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Re: Game postponed

Post by RVclaret » Fri Sep 09, 2022 12:36 pm

claret2018 wrote:
Fri Sep 09, 2022 12:31 pm
I’m sorry but that’s absolutely what it is
So our head of state for 70 years who dedicated her life to duty is the same as Elton John dying?

LOL

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Re: Game postponed

Post by agreenwood » Fri Sep 09, 2022 12:37 pm

I’ve just got off the phone to the facilities manager at the Uni who lease their pitches to my grassroots club.

They’ve been told to expect all games to be off next weekend too.

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Re: Game postponed

Post by claret2018 » Fri Sep 09, 2022 12:38 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Fri Sep 09, 2022 12:36 pm
So our head of state for 70 years who dedicated her life to duty is the same as Elton John dying?

LOL
Elton John has done more for my life than the queen. I’d be more upset if he’d died.
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Re: Game postponed

Post by RVclaret » Fri Sep 09, 2022 12:40 pm

claret2018 wrote:
Fri Sep 09, 2022 12:38 pm
Elton John has done more for my life than the queen. I’d be more upset if he’d died.
‘I’m alright jack’

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Re: Game postponed

Post by claret2018 » Fri Sep 09, 2022 12:45 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Fri Sep 09, 2022 12:40 pm
‘I’m alright jack’
I’m not called Jack. I’m not a fan of being forced into feeling a certain way either.

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Re: Game postponed

Post by RVclaret » Fri Sep 09, 2022 12:46 pm

claret2018 wrote:
Fri Sep 09, 2022 12:45 pm
I’m not called Jack. I’m not a fan of being forced into feeling a certain way either.
Good job no ones forcing anything then.

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Re: Game postponed

Post by jedi_master » Fri Sep 09, 2022 12:46 pm

End of the day, it’s a week or so. We can all deal with no football for a week and a bit can’t we? I’m not saying it’s a right or wrong decision, just looking at it like that - it’s not a big ask really is my attitude.
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Re: Game postponed

Post by thehistorylecturer1 » Fri Sep 09, 2022 12:48 pm

jedi_master wrote:
Fri Sep 09, 2022 12:46 pm
End of the day, it’s a week or so. We can all deal with no football for a week and a bit can’t we? I’m not saying it’s a right or wrong decision, just looking at it like that - it’s not a big ask really is my attitude.
This 👍🏻

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Re: Game postponed

Post by RVclaret » Fri Sep 09, 2022 12:48 pm

jedi_master wrote:
Fri Sep 09, 2022 12:46 pm
End of the day, it’s a week or so. We can all deal with no football for a week and a bit can’t we? I’m not saying it’s a right or wrong decision, just looking at it like that - it’s not a big ask really is my attitude.
Local journos are reporting the PNE game is set to go ahead so only a few days.

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Re: Game postponed

Post by Rileybobs » Fri Sep 09, 2022 12:49 pm

jedi_master wrote:
Fri Sep 09, 2022 12:46 pm
End of the day, it’s a week or so. We can all deal with no football for a week and a bit can’t we? I’m not saying it’s a right or wrong decision, just looking at it like that - it’s not a big ask really is my attitude.
Of course we can. We could all do without a hell of a lot less throughout the Covid pandemic, but at least there was a rational reason for those deprivation of liberties.

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Re: Game postponed

Post by thehistorylecturer1 » Fri Sep 09, 2022 12:50 pm

TonbridgeClaret wrote:
Fri Sep 09, 2022 12:15 pm
Non-league games are on, I might nip down to Worthing and watch Tonbridge Angels.
No they aren’t

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Re: Game postponed

Post by dsr » Fri Sep 09, 2022 12:53 pm

Rileybobs wrote:
Fri Sep 09, 2022 12:49 pm
Of course we can. We could all do without a hell of a lot less throughout the Covid pandemic, but at least there was a rational reason for those deprivation of liberties.
Deprivation of liberties? A bit OTT, surely. You are deprived of the liberty of watching football all through the summer, albeit for a different reason. You were deprived of the liberty of watching Burnley v Spurs last season when it snowed.

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Re: Game postponed

Post by Rileybobs » Fri Sep 09, 2022 12:57 pm

dsr wrote:
Fri Sep 09, 2022 12:53 pm
Deprivation of liberties? A bit OTT, surely. You are deprived of the liberty of watching football all through the summer, albeit for a different reason. You were deprived of the liberty of watching Burnley v Spurs last season when it snowed.
People are being deprived of going to events they've paid for and paid for travel and accommodation arrangements for. Kids are being deprived of playing sport - I mean where is the logic in this at all? Which ever way you look at it, and however trivial you may find it, it is a deprivation of liberty - that's just a fact.

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Re: Game postponed

Post by quoonbeatz » Fri Sep 09, 2022 1:01 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Fri Sep 09, 2022 12:36 pm
So our head of state for 70 years who dedicated her life to duty is the same as Elton John dying?

LOL
Well they're both old queens...
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Re: Game postponed

Post by BennyD » Fri Sep 09, 2022 1:06 pm

claret2018 wrote:
Fri Sep 09, 2022 12:38 pm
Elton John has done more for my life than the queen. I’d be more upset if he’d died.
Which shows you are about as ‘deep’ as a car park puddle. This moment in history is obviously lost on someone like you so go away and put some trash pop on.

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Re: Game postponed

Post by TheFamilyCat » Fri Sep 09, 2022 1:11 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Fri Sep 09, 2022 12:48 pm
Local journos are reporting the PNE game is set to go ahead so only a few days.
Just this weekend, back to normal Monday.

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Re: Game postponed

Post by martin_p » Fri Sep 09, 2022 1:17 pm

Rileybobs wrote:
Fri Sep 09, 2022 12:57 pm
People are being deprived of going to events they've paid for and paid for travel and accommodation arrangements for. Kids are being deprived of playing sport - I mean where is the logic in this at all? Which ever way you look at it, and however trivial you may find it, it is a deprivation of liberty - that's just a fact.
:lol:

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Re: Game postponed

Post by Rileybobs » Fri Sep 09, 2022 1:23 pm

martin_p wrote:
Fri Sep 09, 2022 1:17 pm
:lol:
You don’t think kids being told they can’t play football with their mates is an infringement on their liberties, Martin?

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Re: Game postponed

Post by claret2018 » Fri Sep 09, 2022 1:23 pm

BennyD wrote:
Fri Sep 09, 2022 1:06 pm
Which shows you are about as ‘deep’ as a car park puddle. This moment in history is obviously lost on someone like you so go away and put some trash pop on.
HM Queen Elizabeth II never wrote a banger like Funeral For a Friend/Love Lies Bleeding

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Re: Game postponed

Post by martin_p » Fri Sep 09, 2022 1:33 pm

Rileybobs wrote:
Fri Sep 09, 2022 1:23 pm
You don’t think kids being told they can’t play football with their mates is an infringement on their liberties, Martin?
They can play football with their mates, no one is stopping them. The formal matches have been postponed like they have been year after year since the beginning of organised football without people screaming about ‘civil liberties’.
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Re: Game postponed

Post by BennyD » Fri Sep 09, 2022 1:34 pm

And for that I respect her even more.

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Re: Game postponed

Post by BennyD » Fri Sep 09, 2022 1:35 pm

Rileybobs wrote:
Fri Sep 09, 2022 1:23 pm
You don’t think kids being told they can’t play football with their mates is an infringement on their liberties, Martin?
Spoken like a true snowflake.

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Re: Game postponed

Post by Rileybobs » Fri Sep 09, 2022 1:38 pm

martin_p wrote:
Fri Sep 09, 2022 1:33 pm
They can play football with their mates, no one is stopping them. The formal matches have been postponed like they have been year after year since the beginning of organised football without people screaming about ‘civil liberties’.
I'm not screaming about anything. I'm just posting facts. There is absolutely no reason why kids' football games shouldn't be going ahead this weekend, absolutely none at all.
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Re: Game postponed

Post by Rileybobs » Fri Sep 09, 2022 1:39 pm

BennyD wrote:
Fri Sep 09, 2022 1:35 pm
Spoken like a true snowflake.
Pretty much sums up your intellectual ability when it comes to debating.

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Re: Game postponed

Post by martin_p » Fri Sep 09, 2022 1:41 pm

Rileybobs wrote:
Fri Sep 09, 2022 1:38 pm
I'm not screaming about anything. I'm just posting facts. There is absolutely no reason why kids' football games shouldn't be going ahead this weekend, absolutely none at all.
It is not a fact that postponing a football match infringes anyones civil liberties.

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Re: Game postponed

Post by 1882Clarets1882 » Fri Sep 09, 2022 1:46 pm

Off topic from the petty squabbling, but what's the latest about Muric's injury? Apologies if its covered elsewhere.

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Re: Game postponed

Post by Rileybobs » Fri Sep 09, 2022 1:50 pm

martin_p wrote:
Fri Sep 09, 2022 1:41 pm
It is not a fact that postponing a football match infringes anyones civil liberties.
I haven't used the term 'civil liberties' - you did, I used the word liberties - there's quite a difference.

Liberty; the state of being free within society from oppressive restrictions imposed by authority on one's way of life, behaviour, or political views.

People's liberties are being infringed, it's just a fact, no matter how minor the infringement. Like I said, there's absolutely no reason at all why kids shouldn't be allowed to play their grassroots games this weekend - or can you give me one?

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Re: Game postponed

Post by Steve-Harpers-perm » Fri Sep 09, 2022 1:58 pm

NottsClaret wrote:
Fri Sep 09, 2022 12:02 pm
Makes us look ridiculous, proper 3rd world dictatorship nonsense. Really poor decision, just from fear of not looking 'respectful' enough. There's no tradition here either, this is very much a modern world phenomenon, never did it for the last monarch.

Probably cancel kid's grassroots too, which is something I'd probably move from 'vexed' to 'furious' about.
They have.

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Re: Game postponed

Post by martin_p » Fri Sep 09, 2022 1:59 pm

Rileybobs wrote:
Fri Sep 09, 2022 1:50 pm
I haven't used the term 'civil liberties' - you did, I used the word liberties - there's quite a difference.

Liberty; the state of being free within society from oppressive restrictions imposed by authority on one's way of life, behaviour, or political views.

People's liberties are being infringed, it's just a fact, no matter how minor the infringement. Like I said, there's absolutely no reason at all why kids shouldn't be allowed to play their grassroots games this weekend - or can you give me one?
No, the organisation that runs football has decided to postpone it’s matches. That’s nothing to do with ‘liberties’, the people who run the competition are free to do what they like (within the law), they decide when the fixtures are played or not played.
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Re: Game postponed

Post by BennyD » Fri Sep 09, 2022 2:00 pm

It’s not down to Martin to give you a reason, even if he could. The fact is; the decision has been made in the appropriate circles that football isn’t going to go ahead. Why that decision has been made is of little relevance, all we can do is go along with it during this period of national mourning. It’s here and it’s happening, so second guessing why is pointless, crass and somewhat disrespectful. Just stand by the country and respectfully observe the big picture as I, and many others, are doing.

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Re: Game postponed

Post by Bordeauxclaret » Fri Sep 09, 2022 2:01 pm

Disrespectful to ask why????

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Re: Game postponed

Post by lakedistrictclaret » Fri Sep 09, 2022 2:02 pm

martin_p wrote:
Fri Sep 09, 2022 1:59 pm
No, the organisation that runs football has decided to postpone it’s matches. That’s nothing to do with ‘liberties’, the people who run the competition are free to do what they like (within the law), they decide when the fixtures are played or not played.

Correct

Your liberty would be infringed if there WAS a match taking place, but for some spurious reason you weren't allowed to attend it.

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Re: Game postponed

Post by martin_p » Fri Sep 09, 2022 2:04 pm

Bordeauxclaret wrote:
Fri Sep 09, 2022 2:01 pm
Disrespectful to ask why????
There’s no need to ask why, the statements make it clear it’s ‘as a mark of respect’.

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Re: Game postponed

Post by Rileybobs » Fri Sep 09, 2022 2:07 pm

martin_p wrote:
Fri Sep 09, 2022 1:59 pm
No, the organisation that runs football has decided to postpone it’s matches. That’s nothing to do with ‘liberties’, the people who run the competition are free to do what they like (within the law), they decide when the fixtures are played or not played.
That's a fair enough point, and while technically using the word 'liberties' may not have been correct, it doesn't detract from my point.

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Re: Game postponed

Post by Mattster » Fri Sep 09, 2022 2:27 pm

Yet to see anyone actually explain how going ahead with fixtures this weekend would have been disrespectful.

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Re: Game postponed

Post by Bordeauxclaret » Fri Sep 09, 2022 2:27 pm

martin_p wrote:
Fri Sep 09, 2022 2:04 pm
There’s no need to ask why, the statements make it clear it’s ‘as a mark of respect’.
Can we ask “how” stopping kids playing football is “a mark of respect”?
Is that allowed?

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Re: Game postponed

Post by RVclaret » Fri Sep 09, 2022 2:28 pm

Mattster wrote:
Fri Sep 09, 2022 2:27 pm
Yet to see anyone actually explain how going ahead with fixtures this weekend would have been disrespectful.
Irrelevant. The PL and EFL have decided they will pause football for the weekend as a mark of respect. That's all there is to it.

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Re: Game postponed

Post by Dark Cloud » Fri Sep 09, 2022 2:30 pm

Whilst not wishing to become in any way embroiled in an argument as there are clearly widely differing views on here regarding this and tbf I respect them all as we all see things differently, but I will say this. I initially kind of understand why our match this evening had to be called off "out of respect" etc, but I've been to town this morning and life in every other sphere seems to be carrying on absolutely as normal. Cafés are open and very full, Primark, Next, M&S et al doing brisk business and the roads all very busy with traffic. I'm not entirely sure why sport (not just footy) feels the need to cancel in order to appear respectful when other areas of life really don't. I do accept that when it comes to the funeral in a few days time, pretty much everything will shut down and I get that, but as of now it only really seems to be sport and I'm not sure I get it. A 2 minute silence before starting might have been a better way to go, but I don't know. On another note I saw several Norwich fans in town who clearly had already made the long trip before they knew they wouldn't see a game, but I guess at least they can now take in the sights!!!
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Re: Game postponed

Post by Mattster » Fri Sep 09, 2022 2:32 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Fri Sep 09, 2022 2:28 pm
Irrelevant. The PL and EFL have decided they will pause football for the weekend as a mark of respect. That's all there is to it.
The implication of pausing football "as a mark of respect" is that going ahead with fixtures would have been disrespectful. Otherwise it's not showing any respect, it's just an arbitrary decision.

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Re: Game postponed

Post by martin_p » Fri Sep 09, 2022 2:37 pm

Bordeauxclaret wrote:
Fri Sep 09, 2022 2:27 pm
Can we ask “how” stopping kids playing football is “a mark of respect”?
Is that allowed?
It’s allowed as long as you ask the right question. Kids aren’t being stopped playing football.

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Re: Game postponed

Post by martin_p » Fri Sep 09, 2022 2:38 pm

Mattster wrote:
Fri Sep 09, 2022 2:32 pm
The implication of pausing football "as a mark of respect" is that going ahead with fixtures would have been disrespectful. Otherwise it's not showing any respect, it's just an arbitrary decision.
No, they’re not two sides of the same coin. Making a gesture as a sign of respect doesn’t mean making a different gesture (or no gesture at all) is disrespectful.

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Re: Game postponed

Post by Lancasterclaret » Fri Sep 09, 2022 2:39 pm

Rugby is still on
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Re: Game postponed

Post by Bordeauxclaret » Fri Sep 09, 2022 2:40 pm

Ok, Can we ask “how” stopping kids playing in their football teams in an arranged league on Saturday 9th September 2022 is “a mark of respect”?
Is that allowed?

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Re: Game postponed

Post by RVclaret » Fri Sep 09, 2022 2:40 pm

Mattster wrote:
Fri Sep 09, 2022 2:32 pm
The implication of pausing football "as a mark of respect" is that going ahead with fixtures would have been disrespectful. Otherwise it's not showing any respect, it's just an arbitrary decision.
Not really, it's just football making the decision, which they feel is right, to show a moment of respect for what is a momentous occasion for the country. Our late Queen was a patron of the FA and William is the President of the FA - perhaps this also was part of their decision.

Racing paused, cricket paused, golf paused, why shouldn't football?

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Re: Game postponed

Post by Lancasterclaret » Fri Sep 09, 2022 2:41 pm

Bordeauxclaret wrote:
Fri Sep 09, 2022 2:40 pm
Ok, Can we ask “how” stopping kids playing in their football teams in an arranged league on Saturday 9th September 2022 is “a mark of respect”?
Is that allowed?
Not by some

I get it btw if you are ex military, and the oath of allegiance to the Queen makes this a huge thing, but its still not on to not understand why some of us what to remember her while watching football and our kids play football

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Re: Game postponed

Post by bumba » Fri Sep 09, 2022 2:43 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Fri Sep 09, 2022 2:40 pm
Not really, it's just football making the decision, which they feel is right, to show a moment of respect for what is a momentous occasion for the country. Our late Queen was a patron of the FA and William is the President of the FA - perhaps this also was part of their decision.

Racing paused, cricket paused, golf paused, why shouldn't football?
Cricket on, super League on, premiership rugby on

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Re: Game postponed

Post by RVclaret » Fri Sep 09, 2022 2:45 pm

bumba wrote:
Fri Sep 09, 2022 2:43 pm
Cricket on, super League on, premiership rugby on
Cricket is off today. That’s their ‘pause’. And I’ve no doubt they are ‘back on’ tomorrow to swoop up some of the football fans who are now free.

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