Stoke v Burnley Match Thread

boyyanno · Post by **boyyanno** » Fri Dec 30, 2022 8:38 pm

I've been critical of Muric this season so it's only fair I give credit where it's due, two saves that have kept us level this half, he'll he massive in the next 45 so hopefully keeps it up.

We've been poor this half really, struggled to get hold of the ball and transition through midfield to up-front. Zaroruy on for Churlinov at half time with Rodriguez and Tella coming on after. Most importantly the midfield needs changing back to its normal dynamic.

AGENT_CLARET · Post by **AGENT_CLARET** » Fri Dec 30, 2022 8:38 pm

Zaroury will rip these apart

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Fri Dec 30, 2022 8:38 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑
Fri Dec 30, 2022 8:37 pm
Stoke should be winning. They have been the more effective side.

But we have got better.

Churlinov and Brownhill haven’t really affected the game yet. One of them probably needs swapping out in the second half.

Benson has looked sharp as always

Only had one chance from a rebound on a set piece Tbf. Been a game of few chances. Not sure our new system tonight has worked and we might see VK make a tweak 2nd half.

DCWat · Post by **DCWat** » Fri Dec 30, 2022 8:39 pm

FCBurnley wrote: ↑
Fri Dec 30, 2022 8:37 pm
Advice for VK. If it ain’t t broke don’t fix it !!!

I’ve no arguments with him giving players a rest - it’s what he have the squad for.

jedi_master · Post by **jedi_master** » Fri Dec 30, 2022 8:39 pm

The only real bright spot has been that Benson is continuing to look like a Belgian Messi. I cannot believe he plays for us.

Royboyclaret · Post by **Royboyclaret** » Fri Dec 30, 2022 8:39 pm

Have we got started yet ?

Buxtonclaret · Post by **Buxtonclaret** » Fri Dec 30, 2022 8:39 pm

Who is in coms with Birdy?

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Fri Dec 30, 2022 8:40 pm

Just the 1 goal in the Championship so far this evening, in our favour too

Carwin261 · Post by **Carwin261** » Fri Dec 30, 2022 8:40 pm

Think Churlinov would do best if he got a 2nd half at home against a team we were dominating,Stoke play a bit like Burnley (2017–2022) not is sort of game.

Ampth7 · Post by **Ampth7** » Fri Dec 30, 2022 8:40 pm

Ref needs to get a grip to stop from them turning a football game into something more akin to egg-chasing!
It is my genuine hope that the way Stoke play becomes a thing of the past belonging in a Museum!
Argue every decision, kick everything that moves, anti-football s**t is not what I pay my money to watch!

bfcjg · Post by **bfcjg** » Fri Dec 30, 2022 8:40 pm

Teams won't lay down for us,we have to fight and let our quality shine when we can.

Carport · Post by **Carport** » Fri Dec 30, 2022 8:40 pm

Taylor for Maatsen anyone? Thought we needed Taylor against Sheff Utd and this is a similar game although will Stoke fade second half when Maatsen could come into his own ?

boatshed bill · Post by **boatshed bill** » Fri Dec 30, 2022 8:41 pm

dougcollins wrote: ↑
Fri Dec 30, 2022 8:36 pm
If the Churlinov choice was an experiment, it hasn't worked.

Presumably Zaroury not quite match fit, he did tire a bit against Birmingham.
We have to bring these fringe players on at times like this.

Conroy92 · Post by **Conroy92** » Fri Dec 30, 2022 8:41 pm

The refs in this league really are dog s***

Newcastleclaret93 · Post by **Newcastleclaret93** » Fri Dec 30, 2022 8:41 pm

This is the perfect game for twine. We need a bit of guile in the advanced areas

boatshed bill · Post by **boatshed bill** » Fri Dec 30, 2022 8:42 pm

Buxtonclaret wrote: ↑
Fri Dec 30, 2022 8:39 pm
Who is in coms with Birdy?

Dave Roberts

CrosspoolClarets · Post by **CrosspoolClarets** » Fri Dec 30, 2022 8:42 pm

Sky red button guy is a Spurs fan, doesn’t normally do Stoke games.

He’s been OK. Once they turned on his mic

Conroy92 · Post by **Conroy92** » Fri Dec 30, 2022 8:42 pm

Carwin261 wrote: ↑
Fri Dec 30, 2022 8:40 pm
Think Churlinov would do best if he got a 2nd half at home against a team we were dominating,Stoke play a bit like Burnley (2017–2022) not is sort of game.

Agree with this.

Vino blanco · Post by **Vino blanco** » Fri Dec 30, 2022 8:42 pm

They won't keep up their running and chasing us down in the second half, that's when we might hit them. We aren't doing a lot around their box, perhaps bring attacking subs after 15 mins. The referee is embarassingly poor.

Royboyclaret · Post by **Royboyclaret** » Fri Dec 30, 2022 8:43 pm

FCBurnley wrote: ↑
Fri Dec 30, 2022 8:37 pm
Advice for VK. If it ain’t t broke don’t fix it !!!

That's the one.

Commy · Post by **Commy** » Fri Dec 30, 2022 8:43 pm

We always struggle against Stoke, even playing the same style as them.

Dark Cloud · Post by **Dark Cloud** » Fri Dec 30, 2022 8:44 pm

I'm really, really not picking on him, but Barnes for Jayrod really doesn't help us one bit. Other changes I don't have an issue with, but this one seriously weakens us in these games and makes it too easy to defend against us (imo)

FCBurnley · Post by **FCBurnley** » Fri Dec 30, 2022 8:44 pm

Horrible 45 mins Ryan Shawcross on commentary asked if the ref had reffed before !! Also said our 2 yellows were rediculous. We are being bullied and ref is helping no end but we are nowhere need our norm. Long way to go

jedi_master · Post by **jedi_master** » Fri Dec 30, 2022 8:44 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑
Fri Dec 30, 2022 8:41 pm
This is the perfect game for twine. We need a bit of guile in the advanced areas

Brownhill is getting no joy at all tonight, so this is a fair shout in my opinion.

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Fri Dec 30, 2022 8:44 pm

Dark Cloud wrote: ↑
Fri Dec 30, 2022 8:44 pm
I'm really, really not picking on him, but Barnes for Jayrod really doesn't help us one bit. Other changes I don't have an issue with, but this one seriously weakens us in these games and makes it too easy to defend against us (imo)

Interesting one isn’t it. He’s not been particularly bad but we don’t play with anywhere near as much control with him.

Tricky Trevor · Post by **Tricky Trevor** » Fri Dec 30, 2022 8:45 pm

HT scores going well for us. Swans beating Watford 1-0 and Narch &Reading drawing.

jedi_master · Post by **jedi_master** » Fri Dec 30, 2022 8:46 pm

Watford are too inconsistent to make a surge for the Autos I think.

ceborame · Post by **ceborame** » Fri Dec 30, 2022 8:46 pm

jos wrote: ↑
Fri Dec 30, 2022 8:37 pm
Radio Stoke, ex player saying that the ref is rubbish and Stoke is well in control

It's Ryan Shawcross, the dirtiest footballer we've ever seen

DCWat · Post by **DCWat** » Fri Dec 30, 2022 8:46 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑
Fri Dec 30, 2022 8:41 pm
This is the perfect game for twine. We need a bit of guile in the advanced areas

What have you seen of Twine to come to this conclusion?

Cubanforever · Post by **Cubanforever** » Fri Dec 30, 2022 8:46 pm

It's a tough place to go, always has been but we have quality on the bench and I'm confident we'll step it up second half

Goalposts · Post by **Goalposts** » Fri Dec 30, 2022 8:46 pm

Carport wrote: ↑
Fri Dec 30, 2022 8:40 pm
Taylor for Maatsen anyone? Thought we needed Taylor against Sheff Utd and this is a similar game although will Stoke fade second half when Maatsen could come into his own ?

I was contemplating that after 30 mins

Longsider · Post by **Longsider** » Fri Dec 30, 2022 8:47 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑
Fri Dec 30, 2022 8:41 pm
This is the perfect game for twine. We need a bit of guile in the advanced areas

Is it the type of team to chuck him on against. They are going to look to muller him at every opportunity.

boatshed bill · Post by **boatshed bill** » Fri Dec 30, 2022 8:48 pm

Stoke's early pressing was excellent, unsettled us I think

Croydon Claret · Post by **Croydon Claret** » Fri Dec 30, 2022 8:48 pm

We have the option of bringing on a fresh Zaroury. How scary is that for Stoke

Goalposts · Post by **Goalposts** » Fri Dec 30, 2022 8:48 pm

Give it 15 mins i think they will start as they did in first half, all blood and guts. Need composure

Matt_Whalley · Post by **Matt_Whalley** » Fri Dec 30, 2022 8:48 pm

Remember the Sunderland game. They couldn’t press us for 90 minutes.

If Stoke haven’t scored at the hour mark I’d back us to win and score at least two.

Commy · Post by **Commy** » Fri Dec 30, 2022 8:48 pm

Watford's main man Pedro is injured and out for 6 to 8 weeks. They will struggle without him.

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Fri Dec 30, 2022 8:49 pm

jedi_master wrote: ↑
Fri Dec 30, 2022 8:46 pm
Watford are too inconsistent to make a surge for the Autos I think.

Just lost their best player for 2 months. Squad plagued with injuries at the min. Be a struggle for them to get close to autos.

Newcastleclaret93 · Post by **Newcastleclaret93** » Fri Dec 30, 2022 8:49 pm

Longsider wrote: ↑
Fri Dec 30, 2022 8:47 pm
Is it the type of team to chuck him on against. They are going to look to muller him at every opportunity.

Stoke really haven’t been that dirty.

Just small niggly fouls

Conroysleftfoot · Post by **Conroysleftfoot** » Fri Dec 30, 2022 8:49 pm

Better get used to this type of game when we play away, managers would be stupid to try and compete with us any other way.

CrosspoolClarets · Post by **CrosspoolClarets** » Fri Dec 30, 2022 8:49 pm

We didn’t win possession much in their half while they did it a few times in ours. Unlike us. Needs to change.

They have a few guys on thin ice. Three have at least 2 fouls, including Soutar. If we get a few on a yellow they’ll find it tough when we run at them.

box_of_frogs · Post by **box_of_frogs** » Fri Dec 30, 2022 8:49 pm

Just seen Leicester’s Wout has scored 2 own goals. Not a good night at the office!!

Buxtonclaret · Post by **Buxtonclaret** » Fri Dec 30, 2022 8:49 pm

boatshed bill wrote: ↑
Fri Dec 30, 2022 8:42 pm
Dave Roberts

Cheers, Bill.

Commy · Post by **Commy** » Fri Dec 30, 2022 8:49 pm

Longsider wrote: ↑
Fri Dec 30, 2022 8:47 pm
Is it the type of team to chuck him on against. They are going to look to muller him at every opportunity.

I think that is why he isn't getting a lot of game time. Kompany is trying to ease him in as when he came on as sub he was badly fouled twice.

Chester Perry · Post by **Chester Perry** » Fri Dec 30, 2022 8:49 pm

DCWat wrote: ↑
Fri Dec 30, 2022 8:46 pm
What have you seen of Twine to come to this conclusion?

probably read this today

What Burnley can expect from Scott Twine: Superb free kicks, long-range shots and perfectionism
https://archive.vn/3XB90

Newcastleclaret93 · Post by **Newcastleclaret93** » Fri Dec 30, 2022 8:50 pm

DCWat wrote: ↑
Fri Dec 30, 2022 8:46 pm
What have you seen of Twine to come to this conclusion?

From what we have seen from him and his time before us.

He’s the creative type and I think that’s what we are missing right now

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Fri Dec 30, 2022 8:50 pm

bfcjg wrote: ↑
Fri Dec 30, 2022 8:40 pm
Teams won't lay down for us,we have to fight and let our quality shine when we can.

Exactly there will be games like tonight especially away from home where we just might have to dig a result out without being at our best,

Carwin261 · Post by **Carwin261** » Fri Dec 30, 2022 8:50 pm

Dumb commentator moaning it wasnt a foul when they had a goal disallowed ,pity the guy was offside.

Croydon Claret · Post by **Croydon Claret** » Fri Dec 30, 2022 8:51 pm

No changes yet

Buxtonclaret · Post by **Buxtonclaret** » Fri Dec 30, 2022 8:52 pm

Never seen that 2nd half warm up before.
Thought Clarets + was having a brain fart.