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Re: VAR

Post by Claretnick » Sun Feb 12, 2023 2:26 pm

ElectroClaret wrote:
Sun Feb 12, 2023 2:24 pm
West Ham were damn lucky Chelsea didn't get a peno awarded as well when Soucek handled.
It was a fine goalkeeping save by Soucek. How on earth was a penalty not given?

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Re: VAR

Post by tiger76 » Sun Feb 12, 2023 2:29 pm

Not been a great weekend for VAR has it, and these mistakes could potentially cost Arsenal the title or Brighton a European place.

I thought the whole idea of VAR was to correct the obvious errors, yet it's introduction seems to have caused more controversy if anything.

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Re: VAR

Post by Spijed » Sun Feb 12, 2023 2:31 pm

tiger76 wrote:
Sun Feb 12, 2023 2:29 pm
Not been a great weekend for VAR has it, and these mistakes could potentially cost Arsenal the title or Brighton a European place.

I thought the whole idea of VAR was to correct the obvious errors, yet it's introduction seems to have caused more controversy if anything.
VAR was meant to use technology that helped referees correct mistakes yet what's the point if lines have to be added in by human hand?

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Re: VAR

Post by tiger76 » Sun Feb 12, 2023 2:36 pm

Spijed wrote:
Sun Feb 12, 2023 2:31 pm
VAR was meant to use technology that helped referees correct mistakes yet what's the point if lines have to be added in by human hand?
Precisely!

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Re: VAR

Post by aclaretinstevenage » Sun Feb 12, 2023 2:46 pm

Bordeauxclaret wrote:
Sun Feb 12, 2023 1:33 pm
Good old Lee Mason at it again.

Skysports saying he “forgot” to draw the lines to check for an offside.

The man is a clown.
Lee Mason never did like Arsenal but then the clown on VAR in the Brighton incident was even more culpable as he did actually draw the lines just not from the last defender which is truly unacceptable from a"professional" referee.

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Re: VAR

Post by NRC » Sun Feb 12, 2023 3:07 pm

Notsosuperstevedavis wrote:
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Salah according to the rules has been played onside by the defender playing the ball.

Hate this version of the offside rule. If Salah hadnt been there in an offside position, the defender wouldnt be ‘forced’ into trying to defend against it.

ever since offside was introduced I’ve never understood why the attacking team doesn’t place a player at (say) the eighteen yard line or even the penalty spot. It’s up to the defending team if they defend it or not. This way the “offside” player (not offside until they’re part of play) is stretching the field of play, which can only be an advantage to their team. It’s up to the defending team to deal with both the threat and the psychology of that

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Re: VAR

Post by Clive 1960 » Mon Feb 13, 2023 7:35 am

That is what I don't miss in the premiership, the championship is more enjoyable at least when you score you are not waiting for a VAR check from Mr Mason who's sat somewhere in a van and going to spoil your day , like he also did when reffing the game because he doesn't like us .

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Re: VAR

Post by Loyal Supporter » Mon Feb 13, 2023 8:08 am

We have to trust the on field officials. If a goal is scored it should only be checked if the assistant referee has raised their flag. If the flag isn't raised the goal stands.
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Re: VAR

Post by Stayingup » Mon Feb 13, 2023 11:32 am

aclaretinstevenage wrote:
Sun Feb 12, 2023 2:46 pm
Lee Mason never did like Arsenal but then the clown on VAR in the Brighton incident was even more culpable as he did actually draw the lines just not from the last defender which is truly unacceptable from a"professional" referee.
Regading your comment about Arsenal; he was quick to award them an extremely debatable penalty very late in the game against us a few years back, which won them the game 1-0. It was awarded for an alleged push by Tarkowski on Ramsey at the back post following a corner. I thought at the time he wouldn't have awarded one to us had it been the other way round. He's a poor ref anyway in a league of poor refs.

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Re: VAR

Post by Bordeauxclaret » Mon Feb 13, 2023 12:19 pm

Usual suspects in the media trying to make up excuses.
“He was worried about the amount of time it was taking”

Unbelievable.

We’ve had one guy forget to draw the lines for offside and one guy draw the lines wrong this weekend.


Time for VAR II to check the VAR decisions.

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Re: VAR

Post by Claret » Mon Feb 13, 2023 12:20 pm

OH, JUST F..K OFF VAR!

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Re: VAR

Post by Firthy » Mon Feb 13, 2023 12:32 pm

The one for me at the weekend was the Leicester disallowed goal against Spurs for offside. The two Spurs defenders were both playing him onside but it was their arms and shoulders. Their feet were further forward because they were turning to run back and Barnes toenail was just touching the drawn line. The offside rule and VAR are both a joke. Shame the Championship will be ruined by it next season.

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Re: VAR

Post by Bosscat » Mon Feb 13, 2023 12:34 pm

aclaretinstevenage wrote:
Sun Feb 12, 2023 2:46 pm
Lee Mason never did like Arsenal but then the clown on VAR in the Brighton incident was even more culpable as he did actually draw the lines just not from the last defender which is truly unacceptable from a"professional" referee.
You just could not make it up ...

VAR should be great but......... the way it is implemented in many cases, shows up the referees at Stockley park week in week out in making glaring errors.
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Re: VAR

Post by Lord Beamish » Mon Feb 13, 2023 12:59 pm

I utterly despise VAR. It was a prominent reason, amongst others, why I took a near three year sabbatical from attending matches on the Turf and even bothering to watch them on the telly.
I’m really not at all looking forward to being subjected to its caprice next season.
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Re: VAR

Post by aclaretinstevenage » Mon Feb 13, 2023 4:04 pm

Stayingup wrote:
Mon Feb 13, 2023 11:32 am
Regading your comment about Arsenal; he was quick to award them an extremely debatable penalty very late in the game against us a few years back, which won them the game 1-0. It was awarded for an alleged push by Tarkowski on Ramsey at the back post following a corner. I thought at the time he wouldn't have awarded one to us had it been the other way round. He's a poor ref anyway in a league of poor refs.

I may be over complicating things but I think being from Bolton he wouldn't want Burnley to be successful, but he would also I think prefer City to win the league over Arsenal. Whatever we do agree he is amongst the poorest of a poor league if Refs.

I see Keith Hackett and others are saying he should be sacked after this cock up,hopefully this will happen and we'll have seen the last of him.

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Re: VAR

Post by Ashingtonclaret46 » Fri Feb 24, 2023 10:36 am

It would appear that, in Italy, VAR is now taking over from Goal Line Technology ----even technology it giving different opinions now, we had better employ some more officials to decide which set of officials overlooking both of these systems is correct.

https://football-italia.net/fiorentina- ... ce-league/

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