Anyone else noticed ?

[HunterST_BFC]

We Are Now Today Guaranteed A Playoff Place

[4midable]

Guaranteed promotion weeks ago

[HunterST_BFC]

Do the math

[Bosscat]

Do the math

MATHS we are not American

[bfcmik]

MATHS we are not American

HunterST_BFC may be!

[HunterST_BFC]

HunterST_BFC may be!

How dare you !

Lancs 100%

Is bfcmik Irish ? (obv' in jest)

[dsr]

And with Luton drawing, that means we will clinch promotion if we win the next two.

[Claretmisterg]

And with Luton drawing, that means we will clinch promotion if we win the next two.

Just so. Beat Sunderland then we are promoted if we win at Middlesbrough. JUSTICE

[alwaysaclaret]

Just said on another thread, sheff utd lose either of the next 2 and we win next 3 I think we're champions.

[Marty Dobson]

How dare you !

Lancs 100%

Is bfcmik Irish ? (obv' in jest)

That's another americanism you prick. (0bv' in jest)

[NRC]

According to page 324 in the Statistics of the Colonies of the British Empire, published in 1839 it is Math
https://books.google.com/books?id=PaUNA ... th&f=false

[basil6345789]

Do the math

Maths

[Rowls]

According to page 324 in the Statistics of the Colonies of the British Empire, published in 1839 it is Math
https://books.google.com/books?id=PaUNA ... th&f=false

No, that was a typo.

[roperclaret]

Maths

Mathematics. Strictly speaking Math is correct.

[roperclaret]

Or Math’s

[Claret Toni]

According to page 324 in the Statistics of the Colonies of the British Empire, published in 1839 it is Math
https://books.google.com/books?id=PaUNA ... th&f=false

1839

Language evolves.

Maths

It's evolved

We don't speak Shakespeare's English any more (well not the the Turf, from what I've heard)

[LoveCurryPies]

We don't speak Shakespeare's English any more (well not the the Turf, from what I've heard)

Well all’s well that ends well!

[The Centre Spot]

Have you all decided if we're calling it Math or Maths?

[elwaclaret]

According to page 324 in the Statistics of the Colonies of the British Empire, published in 1839 it is Math
https://books.google.com/books?id=PaUNA ... th&f=false

The majority of Americanism is in fact old English. The Boston accent is believed to be the most authentic of how much of England communicated with each other in the seventeen hundreds, while local dialect was the everyday vocabulary, uniformity was needed for trade.

[boatshed bill]

Well all’s well that ends well!

Yep: As you like it

[Tribesmen]

Have you all decided if we're calling it Math or Maths?

Sums

[ClaretTony]

Given that Luton, Millwall & Blackburn all have to play each other - we are now guaranteed a top four place.

[ClaretTony]

Have you all decided if we're calling it Math or Maths?

Maths - always has been and always will be here, only the Americans managed to drop the s off the abbreviated word.

[MT03ALG]

Americans

[RicardoMontalban]

Falling out over whose shortened version of a word is correct is peak UTC.

[FigSlice]

I thought the most authentic old English accent in the USA is found on Tangier Island in Chesapeake Bay.

[Rowls]

Americans

They prefer to be called the singular, American.

[Rowls]

I thought the most authentic old English accent in the USA is found on Tangier Island in Chesapeake Bay.

Cheapskate bay? Sounds nice.

[Bosscat]

Cheapskate bay? Sounds nice.

Its Cheapskates Bay

[Goobs]

Yep: As you like it

Was much ado about nothing anyway

[Bosscat]

Was much ado about nothing anyway

Alls well that ends well though

[Volvoclaret]

Chesapeakes Bays

[Devils_Advocate]

Maths / math, legends / heroes, tomato / potato, its all the same at the end of the day

[Goobs]

Alls well that ends well though

A comedy of errors from you there Boss as that one has already been used

[Volvoclaret]

Let's call the whole thing off

[Bosscat]

A comedy of errors from you there Boss as that one has already been used

Now is the winter of discontent
Made glorious summer by this Son of York

[Volvoclaret]

Now is the winter of discontent
Made glorious summer by this Son of York

And got his ass kicked by Lancastrians.

[Bosscat]

And got his ass kicked by Lancastrians.

No twas the "House of Lancaster" nowt to do with Lancashire

Henry 7th was actually born in Pembrokeshire Murdering Welsh bugger

[Vegas Claret]

MATHS we are not American

I've been over here for about 14 years and it still does my head in !!

[Volvoclaret]

No twas the "House of Lancaster" nowt to do with Lancashire

Henry 7th was actually born in Pembrokeshire Murdering Welsh bugger

House of Lancaster.....is not Lancaster the County town of Lancashire?
You're right of course, the Tudors were Welsh, Twyders which was Anglisized, but still stuffed the House of Yorkies.

[Bosscat]

House of Lancaster.....is not Lancaster the County town of Lancashire?
You're right of course, the Tudors were Welsh, Twyders which was Anglisized, but still stuffed the House of Yorkies.

Similarly House of York nowt to with Yorkshiremen either but hey ho as long as it gives you something to cling to ... its OK oh and its Anglicised to be pedantic

[NRC]

Maths - always has been and always will be here, only the Americans managed to drop the s off the abbreviated word.

that's clearly incorrect on all counts (sic), witnessed by my post earlier up in the thread. It hasn't always been, and it's not just the Americans

[Volvoclaret]

Similarly House of York nowt to with Yorkshiremen either but hey ho as long as it gives you something to cling to ... its OK oh and its Anglicised to be pedantic

You pedantic ????? Never. Btw I wouldn't cling to a Yorkie at any price.

[Targetman]

The word 'sport' has now become 'sports', simply because thats how it is termed in America.

The word 'twice' seems to have now been erased from the English language and replaced by 'two times', again I believe an American import.

[Volvoclaret]

So it's not just me that has noticed the dearth of twice. Mind you I still use thrice!

[elwaclaret]

The word 'sport' has now become 'sports', simply because thats how it is termed in America.

The word 'twice' seems to have now been erased from the English language and replaced by 'two times', again I believe an American import.

That substitution of twice makes most linguists wince. I can understand the internationalisation of English but the number of words being lost is going to make English language no more agile than other European languages… the main reason it was adopted for trade in the first place.

[RicardoMontalban]

That substitution of twice makes most linguists wince. I can understand the internationalisation of English but the number of words being lost is going to make English language no more agile than other European languages… the main reason it was adopted for trade in the first place.

I don’t think English as the ‘lingua franca’ has anything to do with its agility, it’s a notoriously contradictory language compared to other European tongues.

The preeminence of English as a global language through the modern period has much more to do with the power of its native speakers ie The British Empire and all the political and trade dominance that came with it at a time the the world was becoming truly global. With the accession of American power this has only be solidified, and it’s the cultural and political dominance of the US that has gradually lead to their ‘version’ of the mother tongue becoming more widespread.

[elwaclaret]

I don’t think English as the ‘lingua franca’ has anything to do with its agility, it’s a notoriously contradictory language compared to other European tongues.

The preeminence of English as a global language through the modern period has much more to do with the power of its native speakers ie The British Empire and all the political and trade dominance that came with it at a time the the world was becoming truly global. With the accession of American power this has only be solidified, and it’s the cultural and political dominance of the US that has gradually lead to their ‘version’ of the mother tongue becoming more widespread.

A good argument but the ‘American version’ of English is like saying Lancastrian is the same as Queens English. If you go to parts of Missouri it is a distinctively different language to the seventeenth century pronunciation they use in Boston. While Emperialism certainly played its role, English was adopted as the language of trade before either the British Empire became dominant any of the Dutch, French and Dutch Empires and prior to Belgiums massive influence in Africa. So while it is truth of course a combination of our answers rather than an either/or.

[RicardoMontalban]

A good argument but the ‘American version’ of English is like saying Lancastrian is the same as Queens English. If you go to parts of Missouri it is a distinctively different language to the seventeenth century pronunciation they use in Boston. While Emperialism certainly played its role, English was adopted as the language of trade before either the British Empire became dominant any of the Dutch, French and Dutch Empires and prior to Belgiums massive influence in Africa. So while it is truth of course a combination of our answers rather than an either/or.

Yes, that’s a good point about the variety of dialects etc that exist within the US itself (interestingly as you mention Missouri my sister in law is from St Louis), I should have been more clear and referred to ‘Americanisms’ as that’s what is essentially being argued here.

I think there’s quite a lot of debate about when English became THE global language, not just for trade but diplomacy, science and academia etc, and predictably answers tend to be pretty vague, but I think consensus seems to settle on or around the 19th century when the Empire was at its peak.