A lot of talk about Scott Twine.

[Darnhill Claret]

Especially about his physical size.

In my mind he compares very favourably, physically, with Enciso at Brighton.

[bobinho]

Or Messi, at PSG

[Darnhill Claret]

I'm also thinking at similar stages in their physical development. Messi is a man. Twine and Enciso still have some physical development to go.

[helmclaret]

If he’s technically good enough, this talk about his physique is nonsense.

Loads of small gifted players playing in the premier league.

[FCBurnley]

He has physically developed a lot in the second half of the season

[Colburn_Claret]

It has a lot more to it than just sheer size.
Many slight footballers are successful, but they have an inner strength, and a low centre of gravity, which makes them hard to knock off the ball.
People are just pointing out that, that inner strength is something he needs to work on. He improved greatly at the end of the season, so no doubt it is something VK has already identified.

[dsr]

Brian Flynn played in a much rougher era than nowadays. Size helps, but lack of it can be overcome.

[Quicknick]

Brian Flynn played in a much rougher era than nowadays. Size helps, but lack of it can be overcome.

As I read this thread, the name Brian Flynn came into my thoughts. You got there first.

[Buxtonclaret]

Billy Bremner didn't turn out too bad either.

[Newcastleclaret93]

The comparison isn’t similar.

Twine isn’t going to beat a man in the prem like Enciso. He’s not quick enough or has that trickyness in his locker.

I just honestly think he’s going to be dominated but much bigger and quicker athletes. I would be very surprised if he’s not loaned out.

[jojomk1]

When you look at our current squad we have quite a few smaller, lighter players
Twine, Cullen, Brownhill, Zaroury and Benson, plus Maatsen and Tella if they comes back
Can't think of many Premier League sides who play with so many of that stature

[fatboy47]

When you think about it we're just a load of crap aren't we?

Might as well just write off next season and play I-spy instead.

[RVclaret]

The comparison isn’t similar.

Twine isn’t going to beat a man in the prem like Enciso. He’s not quick enough or has that trickyness in his locker.

I just honestly think he’s going to be dominated but much bigger and quicker athletes. I would be very surprised if he’s not loaned out.

You also said you would be very surprised if Benson wasn’t loaned out after a similar amount of games Twine has played. Let’s hope your Twine shout ends up like your one on Benson.

[arise_sir_charge]

When you look at our current squad we have quite a few smaller, lighter players
Twine, Cullen, Brownhill, Zaroury and Benson, plus Maatsen and Tella if they comes back
Can't think of many Premier League sides who play with so many of that stature

Cullen has spent a year controlling midfields against some absolute animals, he may not be tall but he’s plenty strong enough.

Never saw Brownhill’s stature as an issue in any previous premier league season.

Wouldn’t describe Tella or Zaroury as small either.

When you then come to the more creative players, the Premier league is full of players that are small in stature but get along just fine. The best example perhaps being Bernardo Silva who just a week ago was running rings round Real Madrid.

[boatshed bill]

Billy Bremner didn't turn out too bad either.

Phil Foden (5ft 7ins) and Bernardo Silva (5'8") aren't getting bullied very much.

[nil_desperandum]

Billy Bremner didn't turn out too bad either.

He was a pretty solid, powerful unit though. Not much similar to Twine I don't think, (Bremner was 4 or 5 inches shorter), but there have been plenty of PL footballers with a similar physique to Twine.

[claretspice]

Somewhere in the middle on this but the starting point is its reductive to boil this down to stature. Its about strength. Plenty of small players have the strength and skill to make it an advantage. Likewise plenty of players who are plenty big enough lack a bit of core strength so get bullied a bit.

Twine isn't especially small and was strong enough to pass in the Championship. But he didn't stand out physically and given the increased physicality of the Premier League its reasonable to wonder if he might need a bit of a conditioning programme to make the grade. That's all.

[jojomk1]

Somewhere in the middle on this but the starting point is its reductive to boil this down to stature. Its about strength. Plenty of small players have the strength and skill to make it an advantage. Likewise plenty of players who are plenty big enough lack a bit of core strength so get bullied a bit.

Twine isn't especially small and was strong enough to pass in the Championship. But he didn't stand out physically and given the increased physicality of the Premier League its reasonable to wonder if he might need a bit of a conditioning programme to make the grade. That's all.

Spot on - it's more about strength, skill and pace next year - whoever starts for us

And to compare him with Enciso, a current international with Paraguay, is not fair to the Scott himself - Brighton payed £11m + for him
He was likened last week on here to James Ward Prowse

He will find his level given time

[quoonbeatz]

What's funny about this thread is that nobody compared Twine with Enciso as a player, yet so desperate to write our players off are the usual suspects, that they go in two footed without reading the question properly.

[FeedTheArf]

He probably will bulk up a little over the summer, but he will definitely be in and around the team next year.

He's our Ward-Prowse!

[Newcastleclaret93]

You also said you would be very surprised if Benson wasn’t loaned out after a similar amount of games Twine has played. Let’s hope your Twine shout ends up like your one on Benson.

Similarly your shout about Weghorst was shocking.

It’s all about opinions. I just can’t see a guy that’s barely featured at championship level getting game time in the prem.

I don’t think it benefits him or us for Twine to be around the squad. If we think he’s got potential he needs to be playing week in week out at this point of his career

[Newcastleclaret93]

He probably will bulk up a little over the summer, but he will definitely be in and around the team next year.

He's our Ward-Prowse!

Except he’s not even a remotely similar player to ward Prowse?

[Rammy1968]

Twine is more a Paul Scholes type player finding space in and around the box and making late runs in there. If he can like people say bulk up either physically or mentally I think he has the capabilities to be a very good premiership player. The problem is we have only witnessed him against championship sides so only time will tell.

[MancunianClaret]

If VK puts him in our Prem squad, that tells you all you need to know; he'll be good enough.

[claret2018]

The similarly built David Silva was of course a total disaster in the PL

[aggi]

The comparison isn’t similar.

Twine isn’t going to beat a man in the prem like Enciso. He’s not quick enough or has that trickyness in his locker.

I just honestly think he’s going to be dominated but much bigger and quicker athletes. I would be very surprised if he’s not loaned out.

Kompany's comments don't make it sound like he'll be loaned out:

“I think he’ll be disappointed that the season is nearly coming to an end. I think the jump from League One in itself to the Championship is already itself a big jump.

“He’s had to build his body up, he’s had to deal with some setbacks and injuries and the team was flying, so it wasn’t like it was easy to get back in the team, and I think he’s finishing how we want him to finish, showing that he’s improved this season.

“Obviously he knows he’s preparing for another bigger jump next year, so I think he’s in the mode where if you finish strongly, I think he’ll feel confident for next season as well to be able to get to the levels he needs to be at, but in terms of the levels of talent there’s no doubt, he’s very talented.”

[HistoricalClaret]

Similarly your shout about Weghorst was shocking.

It’s all about opinions. I just can’t see a guy that’s barely featured at championship level getting game time in the prem.

I don’t think it benefits him or us for Twine to be around the squad. If we think he’s got potential he needs to be playing week in week out at this point of his career

Too bad for your, Kompany disagrees hes already done an interview very much implying Twine will be at Burnley next season and will be playing in the prem.

[bfcmik]

Similarly your shout about Weghorst was shocking.

It’s all about opinions. I just can’t see a guy that’s barely featured at championship level getting game time in the prem.

I don’t think it benefits him or us for Twine to be around the squad. If we think he’s got potential he needs to be playing week in week out at this point of his career

As Aggi posted, VK, shockingly, doesn't agree with you at all: “He’s had to build his body up, he’s had to deal with some setbacks and injuries and the team was flying, so it wasn’t like it was easy to get back in the team, and I think he’s finishing how we want him to finish, showing that he’s improved this season.

[Flixtonclaret1]

If VK puts him in our Prem squad, that tells you all you need to know; he'll be good enough.

Sweet Scotty Twine ….bah bah bah
Good times never feel so good

[JellyBaby]

His style of play reminds me of Maddison from the bits I’ve seen. I think he’s improved his physicality this year particularly and he has the potential to do well in the prem for us, especially with a bit more space which I think he’ll get

[AlargeClaret]

So far Twine’s been compared on here to Messi , Silva ( David and Bernado), Paul Scholes ,Encisco, Billy Bremner and Phil Foden , what could possibly go wrong ? …

[CoolClaret]

By the end of the season, Twine looked like he had played all year with the team.

Got zero issues with him

[Foshiznik]

If he was Brazilian and not born in Swindon, we wouldn't even be having this discussion imo.

[Middle-agedClaret]

His performance against Millwall showed he’s certainly Premier League standard when it comes to shot-by-a-sniper histrionics

https://www.thesun.co.uk/wp-content/upl ... jpg?w=1240

[ClaretsPadiham]

Would be alright if we could do roll on and off subs, just to bring him on for free kicks.

[Newcastleclaret93]

Kompany's comments don't make it sound like he'll be loaned out:

“I think he’ll be disappointed that the season is nearly coming to an end. I think the jump from League One in itself to the Championship is already itself a big jump.

“He’s had to build his body up, he’s had to deal with some setbacks and injuries and the team was flying, so it wasn’t like it was easy to get back in the team, and I think he’s finishing how we want him to finish, showing that he’s improved this season.

“Obviously he knows he’s preparing for another bigger jump next year, so I think he’s in the mode where if you finish strongly, I think he’ll feel confident for next season as well to be able to get to the levels he needs to be at, but in terms of the levels of talent there’s no doubt, he’s very talented.”

Time will tell but I’m not sure what to think of them comments.

At his age I just don’t see why we would want him to spend the majority of his time potentially not even on the bench. He needs minutes if we do think he’s a talented lad.

[FeedTheArf]

Except he’s not even a remotely similar player to ward Prowse?

His ability to find the top corner from 20 yards looks pretty similar to me.

[Foshiznik]

His ability to find the top corner from 20 yards looks pretty similar to me.

JWP is devastating from all set pieces, not just free kicks at goal like Twine.

[AfloatinClaret]

Too bad for your, Kompany disagrees hes already done an interview very much implying Twine will be at Burnley next season and will be playing in the prem.

What ; you'll give more credence to the opinon of some lanky, Jonny-come-lately Belgian-Mancunian than that of the colossus of footballing opinion that is Newcastle? I'm beginning to dispair

[equinox]

Bellamy said in a recent interview that Scott is the nearest thing he's seen to Gianfranco Zola, who he knows well having played with him at Newcastle.

[tally]

Luka Modric say no more

[bfcmik]

If he was Brazilian and not born in Swindon, we wouldn't even be having this discussion imo.

If he was Brazilian the thread title would definitely need changing

[FeedTheArf]

Bellamy said in a recent interview that Scott is the nearest thing he's seen to Gianfranco Zola, who he knows well having played with him at Newcastle.

I know Bellamy was at Newcastle, but Zola never was

[dougcollins]

I reckon this physical obsession with Twine has been a red herring.

[SPC&G]

More Haffners pies needed for Twine

[ArmchairDetective]

I understand the concerns around his physicality. He seemed to duck out of and make the most of some challenges this season.

But for what it's worth I'm hopeful he'll kick on somewhat after a full preseason (or two!).