Mission to Burnley (including spoilers from page 9)

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Re: Mission to Burnley

Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Tue Aug 08, 2023 3:16 pm

jedi_master wrote:
Tue Aug 08, 2023 3:13 pm
Could I make a suggestion/request r.e the discussion of this doc?

There is EVERY chance I smash this in one sitting, but a lot won't or might do it over a couple of days or whatever. For the avoidance of spoilers would anyone else want to have an 'Episode 1' thread, 'Episode 2' thread and so on?

(Just putting this thought here to see what people think!).
Good idea, I intend to watch it in 1 go if possible but that is a sensible approach for others.

Episode 1
Episode 2
Episode 3
Episode 4
Episode - Those who have made their mind up before it has begun

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Re: Mission to Burnley

Post by GetIntoEm » Tue Aug 08, 2023 3:19 pm

**SPOILER ALERT**
Burnley sack manager, Get relegated, Get new manager, have a really good season & get promoted. Also WOW, those white robes look very clean. praise the lord.

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Re: Mission to Burnley

Post by Claret Till I Die » Tue Aug 08, 2023 9:13 pm

Can't be bothered looking through all the thread but do I have yo wait until 10pm on Thursday to watch this ?

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Re: Mission to Burnley

Post by jos » Tue Aug 08, 2023 9:21 pm

You can download it at 2am Thursday via Sky.
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MISSION TO BURNLEY

Post by Papabendi » Wed Aug 09, 2023 10:47 pm

Thread for all comments on the doc dropping tomorrow.

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Re: Mission to Burnley

Post by Spiral » Wed Aug 09, 2023 10:56 pm

INB4 cringe prayer circle shite.

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Re: Mission to Burnley

Post by sox8595 » Thu Aug 10, 2023 3:54 am

Just caught the last 30minutes of episode 1 and quite enjoyed it, seeing the bare truths of relegation.
The debates of who where and what now ect
Definitely interesting

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Re: Mission to Burnley

Post by CoolClaret » Thu Aug 10, 2023 5:38 am

******* Some mild spoilers ********












Had an early night and got up and watched two episodes…

I won’t give any real spoilers but my initial impressions:

- Gets better later in episode 2, tried a little too hard early doors imo to create a bit of a non existent storyline

- Not sure fans outside of Burnley would find much to enjoy until it starts showing Vince get into it

- Camera work leaves a fair bit to be desired, quite wobbly especially in motion/transition.. like looks a bit amateurish, like the cameras haven’t been on a gimbal

- Pace climbing a hill at the beginning of Episode 2 is genuinely hilarious- “Oh Alan erm, we need some content… fancy climbing that Hill with a camera watching you?”

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Re: Mission to Burnley

Post by Boxy » Thu Aug 10, 2023 6:38 am

For everyone worried about the religious aspect of the show.

4 hours of a show... probably 5 minutes of him just saying how religion is a important thing in his life and it has helped him

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Re: Mission to Burnley

Post by Cooclaret » Thu Aug 10, 2023 7:56 am

claret wizard wrote:
Wed Jul 26, 2023 6:03 pm
Oh come on, the shots they show are literally 50 metres from the Turf and where the mural is. If they'd shown the rolling hills and singing ringing tree people would complain it's not near the Turf and just a pile of scaffolding.
Isn’t the first shot of them playing football in Millhead Nr Carnforth? With a rolling shot over Morecambe Bay?

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Re: Mission to Burnley

Post by claretlegend » Thu Aug 10, 2023 8:00 am

If one was to have access to a loaded firestick, does anyone have any idea when it might be available? Asking for a friend.

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Re: Mission to Burnley

Post by IanMcL » Thu Aug 10, 2023 8:00 am

It's tonight.

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Re: Mission to Burnley

Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Thu Aug 10, 2023 8:02 am

Watched the first one this morning, nice touch with the church leader sat on a settee on a back street near the ground. So much focus on religion I am almost converted.

Still those who don't like the owners will find faults in the programme, though that was obvious.

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Re: Mission to Burnley

Post by CoolClaret » Thu Aug 10, 2023 8:20 am

claretonthecoast1882 wrote:
Thu Aug 10, 2023 8:02 am
Watched the first one this morning, nice touch with the church leader sat on a settee on a back street near the ground. So much focus on religion I am almost converted.

Still those who don't like the owners will find faults in the programme, though that was obvious.
You know everything isn’t black and white right? You are allowed to like a lot of aspects of something whilst criticising another.
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Re: Mission to Burnley

Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Thu Aug 10, 2023 8:24 am

CoolClaret wrote:
Thu Aug 10, 2023 8:20 am
You know everything isn’t black and white right? You are allowed to like a lot of aspects of something whilst criticising another.
Yup there are some quite capable of that fully agree.

There are also those who just pick at everything the owners do. Luckily there are probably none on here who do this.

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Re: Mission to Burnley

Post by GetIntoEm » Thu Aug 10, 2023 8:28 am

I watched it all before work this morning and decided i'm going to start running a coach to Chorley for the full experience.

register your interest below

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Re: Mission to Burnley

Post by Acting Claret » Thu Aug 10, 2023 8:53 am

Watched the first episode this morning. I enjoyed it, but then, I know the outcome.

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Re: Mission to Burnley

Post by ClaretAndJew » Thu Aug 10, 2023 8:59 am

Just watched episode 1.

Really good.

The fact that this sort of media exists for my home town's club is actually surreal. My first game was 1996 against Scunthorpe. I don't remember much of the game but remember being so mesmorised by the Police horses that I walked into a sign post and smacked my head on the way home.

To think that we would ever be the source of a documentary on a huge platform like Sky, let alone but in the Premier League for as long as we have is truly remarkable.

I hope everyone enjoys the series for what it is.
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Re: Mission to Burnley

Post by CoolClaret » Thu Aug 10, 2023 9:05 am

Anyone else picking up on some of the wobbly camera footage? Found it a bit hard to watch at times

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Re: Mission to Burnley

Post by Rick_Muller » Thu Aug 10, 2023 9:08 am

I’ve been only slightly irked by some of the continuity issues (when did we sign Twine ;) )

But really enjoying it so far

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Re: Mission to Burnley

Post by criminalclaret » Thu Aug 10, 2023 9:18 am

CoolClaret wrote:
Thu Aug 10, 2023 9:05 am
Anyone else picking up on some of the wobbly camera footage? Found it a bit hard to watch at times
It's a camera/director documentary, it's going to be mainly handheld with skeleton crew. They aren't going to have a massive production team there every day.

Source: worked on plenty of documentaries where the subject is fast moving and limited.

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Re: Mission to Burnley

Post by criminalclaret » Thu Aug 10, 2023 9:23 am

Watched the first episode (I think we should rename this thread to include [SPOILERS] in the title maybe? ) and thought it showed that April 1st to Aug 1st period well. So much change and uncertainty for the club as well for the fans. I think it captured it accurately, especially the callers on Talksport ;-) I think it's also great for other fans though to get a glimpse of what amazing things have been happening here. Also re-iterates, as discussed in another thread, the dire need to tidy up our town centre.

Don't want to go too into details as don't want to spoil bits for people yet to watch it.

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Re: Mission to Burnley

Post by CoolClaret » Thu Aug 10, 2023 9:28 am

criminalclaret wrote:
Thu Aug 10, 2023 9:18 am
It's a camera/director documentary, it's going to be mainly handheld with skeleton crew. They aren't going to have a massive production team there every day.

Source: worked on plenty of documentaries where the subject is fast moving and limited.
I appreciate that and I to have some work experience with filming stuff (music vids), not quite as moving and dynamic as a real world doc of course.

Thought good quality gimbals massively reduced that? I had a scene being followed in and out of a bar off someone with a handheld camera and the gimbal pretty much negated any wobble

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Re: Mission to Burnley

Post by jdrobbo » Thu Aug 10, 2023 9:32 am

I am half way through episode one. I like it. I’m proud that my club has had a documentary made like this.

Shaky cameras? I honestly think that gives it the gritty edge that the film makers are looking for. It’s a fly-on-the-wall production!

I absolutely loved Sunderland Til I Die and actually, this is a far more professional production. It actually shows us playing football against the right teams…in STID it’d say they were playing Derby but show them conceding to Hull…or the commentary would be out of place.

I like the shots of the town. Makes me feel like the ground needs a lot of continued improvement. We need more than a lick of paint, although some of that was addressed last season.
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Re: Mission to Burnley

Post by Burnley1989 » Thu Aug 10, 2023 9:38 am

ClaretAndJew wrote:
Thu Aug 10, 2023 8:59 am
Just watched episode 1.

Really good.

The fact that this sort of media exists for my home town's club is actually surreal. My first game was 1996 against Scunthorpe. I don't remember much of the game but remember being so mesmorised by the Police horses that I walked into a sign post and smacked my head on the way home.

To think that we would ever be the source of a documentary on a huge platform like Sky, let alone but in the Premier League for as long as we have is truly remarkable.

I hope everyone enjoys the series for what it is.
Ditto!

I remember when I used to tape any clip of Burnley on TV back in the 90's and watch on repeat.

Ive watched the first episode and really enjoyed it

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Re: Mission to Burnley

Post by ClaretAndJew » Thu Aug 10, 2023 9:40 am

Burnley1989 wrote:
Thu Aug 10, 2023 9:38 am
Ditto!

I remember when I used to tape any clip of Burnley on TV back in the 90's and watch on repeat.

Ive watched the first episode and really enjoyed it
I would always be envious of the Panini sticker albums back in the 90's of all the other teams, I even remember Barnsley being in them and wished we had some sort of memorabillia or thing to buy from a shop that had Burnley on it!

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Re: Mission to Burnley

Post by Burnley1989 » Thu Aug 10, 2023 9:41 am

ClaretAndJew wrote:
Thu Aug 10, 2023 9:40 am
I would always be envious of the Panini sticker albums back in the 90's of all the other teams, I even remember Barnsley being in them and wished we had some sort of memorabillia or thing to buy from a shop that had Burnley on it!
I remember inheriting a division 1 sticker book in 1995 when we actually were in it, they'd stopped the stickers by then though so only had a few, always annoyed me.

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Re: Mission to Burnley (including spoilers from page 9)

Post by jdrobbo » Thu Aug 10, 2023 9:49 am

I’ve now edited the thread to include spoilers

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Re: Mission to Burnley

Post by criminalclaret » Thu Aug 10, 2023 9:53 am

CoolClaret wrote:
Thu Aug 10, 2023 9:28 am
I appreciate that and I to have some work experience with filming stuff (music vids), not quite as moving and dynamic as a real world doc of course.

Thought good quality gimbals massively reduced that? I had a scene being followed in and out of a bar off someone with a handheld camera and the gimbal pretty much negated any wobble
A one man band isn't going to have the time to setup constantly or making lots changes to a full camera setup compared to a movie. Sometimes you don't know the shot until you get there, especially if its unknown filming day.

Normally with a doco it'll be one or two people (a soundie if budget goes that far that day) and generally a person will be directing and shooting at the same time. Your day might entail drive up to X location, get 10 mins with person A, drive to Z location, get 20 mins there, grab some B roll, oh change of plan, person C is available but an hour away, lets see if we can get them in, then drive back to your base. And that might be an organised day! But ultimately you get the shots as and when they happen for it to be as real possible with. Quality comes at that sacrifice.

When you can plan shots in advance, i.e the drone shots you need permits, weather etc, then you can pay particular attention to equipment. As the episodes go on, they might switch to a different setup for the sideline at games as they know what they are expecting at the point. So might see some more slow-mo or gimble shots at that point.

From a nerdy production perspective, I think it's been brilliantly filmed on episode one.
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Re: Mission to Burnley

Post by CoolClaret » Thu Aug 10, 2023 9:58 am

criminalclaret wrote:
Thu Aug 10, 2023 9:53 am
A one man band isn't going to have the time to setup constantly or making lots changes to a full camera setup compared to a movie. Sometimes you don't know the shot until you get there, especially if its unknown filming day.

Normally with a doco it'll be one or two people (a soundie if budget goes that far that day) and generally a person will be directing and shooting at the same time. Your day might entail drive up to X location, get 10 mins with person A, drive to Z location, get 20 mins there, grab some B roll, oh change of plan, person C is available but an hour away, lets see if we can get them in, then drive back to your base. And that might be an organised day! But ultimately you get the shots as and when they happen for it to be as real possible with. Quality comes at that sacrifice.

When you can plan shots in advance, i.e the drone shots you need permits, weather etc, then you can pay particular attention to equipment. As the episodes go on, they might switch to a different setup for the sideline at games as they know what they are expecting at the point. So might see some more slow-mo or gimble shots at that point.

From a nerdy production perspective, I think it's been brilliantly filmed on episode one.
I’m not particularly questioning the filming in terms of shots chosen et al, I just thought the shots themselves would a bit more stabilised with the equipment used.

One of Kompany’s speeches in Ep 3 is noticeably bad.

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Re: Mission to Burnley (including spoilers from page 9)

Post by burnmark » Thu Aug 10, 2023 10:06 am

I’ve watched all four episodes this morning and enjoyed it tremendously. A brilliant insight into our club and should be quite an eye opener for many.

Plenty of ‘goosepimple’ moments non more so than in episode 4.

Really good advert for our club.

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Re: Mission to Burnley

Post by Bosscat » Thu Aug 10, 2023 10:19 am

Boxy wrote:
Thu Aug 10, 2023 6:38 am
For everyone worried about the religious aspect of the show.

4 hours of a show... probably 5 minutes of him just saying how religion is a important thing in his life and it has helped him
Don't think I will bother then 🤔 I was looking forward to a 4 episode insight into Mormonism 🤭 ... can't be arsed if its mainly about The Football club 😉

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Re: Mission to Burnley

Post by TPClaret » Thu Aug 10, 2023 10:20 am

CoolClaret wrote:
Thu Aug 10, 2023 9:58 am
I’m not particularly questioning the filming in terms of shots chosen et al, I just thought the shots themselves would a bit more stabilised with the equipment used.

One of Kompany’s speeches in Ep 3 is noticeably bad.
Bloody hell mate give it a rest

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Re: Mission to Burnley

Post by TPClaret » Thu Aug 10, 2023 10:25 am

Bosscat wrote:
Thu Aug 10, 2023 10:19 am
Don't think I will bother then 🤔 I was looking forward to a 4 episode insight into Mormonism 🤭 ... can't be arsed if its mainly about The Football club 😉
Some people will have egg on their faces this morning
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Re: Mission to Burnley

Post by CoolClaret » Thu Aug 10, 2023 10:31 am

TPClaret wrote:
Thu Aug 10, 2023 10:20 am
Bloody hell mate give it a rest
Sorry once again for expressing an opinion on a forum

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Re: Mission to Burnley

Post by Clovius Boofus » Thu Aug 10, 2023 10:31 am

Boxy wrote:
Thu Aug 10, 2023 6:38 am
For everyone worried about the religious aspect of the show.

4 hours of a show... probably 5 minutes of him just saying how religion is a important thing in his life and it has helped him
But, but, but, that's a FULL FIVE MINUTES. :lol:
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Re: Mission to Burnley (including spoilers from page 9)

Post by RVclaret » Thu Aug 10, 2023 10:40 am

Currently on the 3rd episode. Really enjoying it so far.

Matt Williams is an impressive guy, particularly enjoyed him putting a few agents in their place.

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Re: Mission to Burnley (including spoilers from page 9)

Post by ClaretDiver » Thu Aug 10, 2023 10:44 am

Not watched it yet but based on some of these comments I think I’m gonna enjoy it…seems a poster or two have decided that, due to it not being as religious as they had hoped, have taken to finding other faults with it!

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Re: Mission to Burnley

Post by Clovius Boofus » Thu Aug 10, 2023 10:44 am

claretonthecoast1882 wrote:
Thu Aug 10, 2023 8:02 am
Watched the first one this morning, nice touch with the church leader sat on a settee on a back street near the ground. So much focus on religion I am almost converted.
I like the bit where Pace calls into a local butcher's shop for a pound of pigs trotters. Pace ends up converting the butcher to Mormonism, and also sells him the club. This makes everybody happy, and all the people, sat in the middle of the backstreets on the dumped settees and mattresses, start cheering about getting their club back.

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Re: Mission to Burnley (including spoilers from page 9)

Post by Clovius Boofus » Thu Aug 10, 2023 10:47 am

ClaretDiver wrote:
Thu Aug 10, 2023 10:44 am
Not watched it yet but based on some of these comments I think I’m gonna enjoy it…seems a poster or two have decided that, due to it not being as religious as they had hoped, have taken to finding other faults with it!
Aye, funny it's the same ones, isn't it.

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Re: Mission to Burnley

Post by TPClaret » Thu Aug 10, 2023 10:56 am

CoolClaret wrote:
Thu Aug 10, 2023 10:31 am
Sorry once again for expressing an opinion on a forum
Let the rest of us enjoy it. 😁

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Re: Mission to Burnley (including spoilers from page 9)

Post by Bosscat » Thu Aug 10, 2023 10:58 am

Have just started ep 1 and am enjoying it immensely 👍🙂

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Re: Mission to Burnley (including spoilers from page 9)

Post by CoolClaret » Thu Aug 10, 2023 11:00 am

RVclaret wrote:
Thu Aug 10, 2023 10:40 am
Currently on the 3rd episode. Really enjoying it so far.

Matt Williams is an impressive guy, particularly enjoyed him putting a few agents in their place.
Yeah I enjoyed that part as well, seems like he can’t be arsed with any of their crap.

Vincent is an absolute star, the series shows that and more.

Phenomenal leader, personable but takes no sh** either.

We’re really lucky to have him.

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Re: Mission to Burnley (including spoilers from page 9)

Post by Ightenhill_Claret » Thu Aug 10, 2023 11:09 am

Thought it was a very very enjoyable watch. Vincent Kompany is just such an impressive human being and as CoolClaret says, a phenomenal leader.

The level of detail, the standards he demands, the work he puts in is off the scale and it's what makes me hopeful of us having a good season.
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Re: Mission to Burnley (including spoilers from page 9)

Post by Rick_Muller » Thu Aug 10, 2023 11:25 am

forgive the religious context here, but I feel it applies...

We are blessed with Vincent Kompany; and Alan Pace; and those players we have wearing our shirt week in week out.

UTC

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Re: Mission to Burnley (including spoilers from page 9)

Post by Walkerpool » Thu Aug 10, 2023 11:28 am

Alan and Vincent both come across as very caring and intelligent people who both deserve every success because of their work ethics UTC.
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Re: Mission to Burnley (including spoilers from page 9)

Post by CoolClaret » Thu Aug 10, 2023 11:30 am

Ightenhill_Claret wrote:
Thu Aug 10, 2023 11:09 am

The level of detail, the standards he demands, the work he puts in is off the scale and it's what makes me hopeful of us having a good season.
Yup - I think he sees the game in ways that not many does.

The analysis and intricacy he goes into re: rotating formations mid game once further in the season, pressing triggers etc then backs up with a good old fashioned ‘f***ing stick to them and hit them f*****g hard’.

When he speaks people listen - you can feel his passion and conviction in his words.

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Re: Mission to Burnley (including spoilers from page 9)

Post by Steve-Harpers-perm » Thu Aug 10, 2023 11:48 am

Watched first two episodes excellent viewing.

Maybe need to watch all four before I convert religion!

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Re: Mission to Burnley (including spoilers from page 9)

Post by Rick_Muller » Thu Aug 10, 2023 11:50 am

Steve-Harpers-perm wrote:
Thu Aug 10, 2023 11:48 am
Watched first two episodes excellent viewing.

Maybe need to watch all four before I convert religion!
Burnley is our religion... don't need to convert anything ;)

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Re: Mission to Burnley (including spoilers from page 9)

Post by Penwortham_Claret » Thu Aug 10, 2023 11:55 am

I’ve just finished the 4th. Probably in the minority but It was just okay. I enjoyed it because it was Burnley but I think I wanted more behind the scenes stuff like transfer negotiations or board/manager interactions. It felt like a really solid season review but not giving much insight to the behind the scenes running that I had hoped for.

On the plus side, it definitely didn’t do our image any harm, everybody came across well particularly Pace who you can’t help but warm to as he feels slightly socially awkward at times.

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