Toffees vs Clarets Match Thread

[ClaretPete001]

I think we did ok up to the substitutions but two more howlers and what can you say.

[willsclarets]

I've managed to stay fairly level during this season, but that's just tipped me over. An absolutely terrible Everton team, and we gift wrapped 3 points with totally unforced errors when our lives depended on it.

[BobSykes]

Let's hope Everton stay up. Last thing we need is them in the Champ with us next time.

The worry is Forest come down and Luton stay up.

Either way i doubt we'll be anything better than play offs next season and i have my doubts about that.

[Mrpotatohead]

So, so disappointing. Being so far off the mark, and so far away from teams who have had points deducted is embarrassing. Roll on next season.

[123EasyasBFC]

Everton’s last 2 wins in 14 games have been against Burnley, 6 points taken from us

[expoultryboy]

Luton won

[LincsWoldsClaret]

No excuse for that
It’s so simple -
Play wingers on the wing
Play attackers centrally
Play Benson

[Rick_Muller]

My only comment on the O’Shea red card is that it wasn’t as nasty a tackle as Tarkowski’s yellow or Andre Gomez yellow either. Apart from that, the ref had a good game

[Jellybean]

Hoping that Everton get more points deducted and Luton stay up. They've basically cheated and it is helping them this season, albeit they are still a shockingly poor team.

[Bigbopper]

As bad as we have been as a team, Muric lost us the match. Do we have a 3rd team goalkeeper

[Woodleyclaret]

A poor side gifted three points by inept tactics
6 points adrift of Luton ffs!

[IanMcL]

Brentford get a point and Luton win.

Austria for everyone's holidays, as Elwa says.

[xxmunkyennuixx]

They were chronic. Offered nothing and we've given them three. The Everton fans will be furious despite winning that's how bad they are. So frustrating.

[boyyanno]

I can't blame Muric or O'Shea. When you actually watch us it's easier to name the players that don't give the ball away in ridiculous areas than the ones who do.

Cullen, Assignon, O'Shea, Muric, Taylor could all have cost us at points, O'Shea and Muric are just unlucky it's them that's made the crucial ones.

After a period of time you have to wonder if we are asking some people to play a style that doesn't suit them, and the most worrying thing is that we can't just keep going out and buying "better" players. We just need to use what we have to better effect.

We've absolutely stunk this season. Second half we started losing nearly every 50/50 and they kept winning it high and we didn't make any changes, just waited for a calamity to happen and then made some weird ones. A game we needed points in and he refuses to use Benson again.

Still don't know our best 11- looked pretty clear it wouldn't work based on the last game but we made the same mistakes. Sometimes it's horrible being a football fan, back to ground hog day again.

[FCBurnley]

Only good thing today is that we never have to play at Goodson Park ever again. Ever since Will Irvine was violently assaulted there effectively ending his career I have despised Everton and Goodisin. Bring in the bulldozers

[jedi_master]

Hoping that Everton get more points deducted and Luton stay up. They've basically cheated and it is helping them this season, albeit they are still a shockingly poor team.

To be honest this might be to our benefit. Everton would surely be in firesale mode and possibly have a points deduction if they got relegated.

[123EasyasBFC]

As bad as we have been as a team, Muric lost us the match. Do we have a 3rd team goalkeeper

Muric didn’t lose us the match, we had one shot on target in 97 minutes

[KRBFC]

Did no one tell them it was a must win game ? You're right Kr , Amdouni was awesome when he came on .

I mean what chance was he given? Weird you’d point out Amdouni after 5 minutes on the pitch but not Rodriguez or even Foster who had 95. Clear agenda against our most productive forward.

[tally]

In a way I'm happy to be back in the championship with our derby games etc. plus a more positive atmosphere wether on the Turf or on here or in the pub.
Not having to watch out of our depth shite every week works wonders

[Pearcey]

Was always going to be hard for us to score against a Dyche team to be honest. I thought we competed well everywhere else on the pitch and it wasn’t men against boys like it was last time. Nether keeper had much to do and we looked the better side. Just didn’t have the composure up top.

[Pearcey]

In a way I'm happy to be back in the championship with our derby games etc. plus a more positive atmosphere wether on the Turf or on here or in the pub.
Not having to watch out of our depth shite every week works wonders

I love the Championship. Just having no VAR and big club bias makes it more enjoyable for me. Just worrying how much debt we now have.

[123EasyasBFC]

Conceded goals right before half time:

At home
Spurs
Chelsea
United
Wolves

Away
Arsenal
Wolves
Chelsea
Everton

[expoultryboy]

I've said all along he's talented , but he's also lazy and never puts a full shift in .

[Stayingup]

What's galling is we're 6 points behind Luton and 15 goals worse. We were what . . 20.points better last season? That's fairly unforgiveable. Moneyball hasn't worked out.

[JohnMcGreal]

Pathetic stuff.

[ClaretOfMancunia]

One shot on target all game. Poor. Not sure there's anything else to say.

[cockneyclaret]

What's galling is we're 6 points behind Luton and 15 goals worse. We were what . . 20.points better last season? That's fairly unforgiveable. Moneyball hasn't worked out.

Luton just have a better togetherness and fight in them.
Something that money and VK can't coach with his group of players

[BabylonClaret]

One shot on target all game. Poor. Not sure there's anything else to say.

And straight at him too. We've created some good chances recently but today we really struggled again - this was one right out of the Jan/Feb performance period

[Terry Cochrane]

Only good thing today is that we never have to play at Goodson Park ever again. Ever since Will Irvine was violently assaulted there effectively ending his career I have despised Everton and Goodisin. Bring in the bulldozers

Might meet them in the cups next season.

[willsclarets]

I don't even think it's a lack of fight or desire. I think it's a pure lack of pragmatism in key moments. A silly foul, a hospital pass, trying to be too cute in our own third etc. I can't say I see a lack of effort in anyone

[Pickles]

In a way I'm happy to be back in the championship with our derby games etc. plus a more positive atmosphere wether on the Turf or on here or in the pub.
Not having to watch out of our depth shite every week works wonders

That's assuming we'll be good next season!

[kentonclaret]

“We know Burnley like to play out from the back, overplay at times, so we just worked all week on setting traps”
Calvert-Lewin

Easy Peasy

[Tricky Trevor]

My only comment on the O’Shea red card is that it wasn’t as nasty a tackle as Tarkowski’s yellow or Andre Gomez yellow either. Apart from that, the ref had a good game

He wasn’t sent off for the tackle it was for DGSO, as McNeil would have been in on goal alone.

[Holtyclaret]

Muric didn’t lose us the match, we had one shot on target in 97 minutes

He quite literally did.

[Superjohnnyfrancis]

No excuse for that
It’s so simple -
Play wingers on the wing
Play attackers centrally
Play Benson

Bloody tinker man has lost the plot. I thought when Muric was put back in he’d keep a settled team and lineup. How wrong I was.

Really over thinking obvious things now.

[Superjohnnyfrancis]

I don't even think it's a lack of fight or desire. I think it's a pure lack of pragmatism in key moments. A silly foul, a hospital pass, trying to be too cute in our own third etc. I can't say I see a lack of effort in anyone

Too much passing around opposition box ( at least its not at the back now) trying to walk it in the net. Just bloody shoot more.

[Rick_Muller]

Bar a serious amount of bad luck Muric was one of our better players today. Some of you just can’t see that!

[123EasyasBFC]

He quite literally did.

Muric isn’t the reason we don’t score goals

[123EasyasBFC]

Bar a serious amount of bad luck Muric was one of our better players today. Some of you just can’t see that!

Exactly!! And my exact reason to post that certain posters were waiting to muric to make a mistake, the same posters who were defending the decision start the season with Trafford

[kentonclaret]

Muric didn’t lose us the match, we had one shot on target in 97 minutes

And that situation never happened when Trafford was hung out to dry for losing us games?

[FCBurnley]

Might meet them in the cups next season.

Not at Goodison

[Holtyclaret]

Muric isn’t the reason we don’t score goals

Without his clanger we wouldn’t have lost today.

Yes this season we haven’t scored enough goals despite often looking a threat.

[123EasyasBFC]

Last 6 games and we are experimenting with foster on the right hahaha criminal decision making.

Nothing against fofana but he’s not here next season, get foster back in his natural position and hopefully scoring some goals to go into next season with

[123EasyasBFC]

And that situation never happened when Trafford was hung out to dry for losing us games?

Again I haven’t ever posted that Trafford lost us the game apart from his decision making in 94th minute at home to Luton when he should have stayed on his line, however it was a foul

But when there’s a full half of football left you cannot say muric cost us the game

[123EasyasBFC]

Without his clanger we wouldn’t have lost today.

Yes this season we haven’t scored enough goals despite often looking a threat.

How do you know we wouldn’t have lost? 50min left in the game.

Had assignon stayed on against Chelsea and no penalty given, that doesn’t mean we would have beaten Chelsea, we could have easily lost the game 3-0 11 v 11

[boatshed bill]

Luton just have a better togetherness and fight in them.
Something that money and VK can't coach with his group of players

This is a fair point. But it's worth taking into consideration that the Luton squad has been about 3 seasons in it's development.
We got promoted largely on the strength of loan signings.
I'm not sure we could buy a decent PL squad on VK's budget.

[kentonclaret]

Muric didn’t lose us the match, we had one shot on target in 97 minutes

Surely, one of the key arguments put forward for Muric over Trafford was his superior distribution setting up the attacking play and creating chances for our strikers.
Obviously didn’t work this afternoon and his moment of madness cost us the game.

[CoolClaret]

Surely, one of the key arguments put forward for Muric over Trafford was his superior distribution setting up the attacking play and creating chances for our strikers.
Obviously didn’t work this afternoon and his moment of madness cost us the game.

I mean, we were quite literally playing them off the park till the mistake.

[expoultryboy]

Still at Goodison next season.

[aggi]

Foster looks poor to me, more like the Foster from last season.

Probably because he's not a winger.