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Kompany

Post by Tricky Trevor » Sat May 11, 2024 5:11 pm

Another booking. He’s 38 years old and still hasn’t learned that having a pop at the 4th has never, in history, changed a decision. It only antagonises the officials.
He's had more bookings this season that SD had in 10 years.

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Re: Kompany

Post by zippybid » Sat May 11, 2024 5:12 pm

Definitely needed a new thread.
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Re: Kompany

Post by Buxtonclaret » Sat May 11, 2024 5:13 pm

His lack of self discipline has certainly spilled out onto the team.

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Re: Kompany

Post by clansman » Sat May 11, 2024 5:19 pm

He does need to realise that he isn’t gods gift to football . He is clever and a decent guy but like many before him he started to believe his own hype. Overthinks the game.But I think he will learn from this season, although it does need words of wisdom from someone else!

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Re: Kompany

Post by GetIntoEm » Sat May 11, 2024 5:19 pm

They need telling. Well done Vincent
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Re: Kompany

Post by 123EasyasBFC » Sat May 11, 2024 5:20 pm

Another kompany thread, well I never
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Re: Kompany

Post by Cooclaret » Sat May 11, 2024 5:24 pm

clansman wrote:
Sat May 11, 2024 5:19 pm
He does need to realise that he isn’t gods gift to football . He is clever and a decent guy but like many before him he started to believe his own hype. Overthinks the game.But I think he will learn from this season, although it does need words of wisdom from someone else!
Absolutely, he’s so far off the required level

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Re: Kompany

Post by Neil » Sat May 11, 2024 5:45 pm

I don't mind a manager showing passion as long as it's paired with some technical nouse.

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Re: Kompany

Post by NewClaret » Sat May 11, 2024 5:50 pm

Personally like a manager that shows some passion on the sidelines.

Weird thing to get worked up about.
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Re: Kompany

Post by Sproggy » Sat May 11, 2024 6:14 pm

Cooclaret wrote:
Sat May 11, 2024 5:24 pm
Absolutely, he’s so far off the required level
The last 10 games would suggest otherwise.

What’s “the required level”?

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Re: Kompany

Post by Cooclaret » Sat May 11, 2024 6:36 pm

Sproggy wrote:
Sat May 11, 2024 6:14 pm
The last 10 games would suggest otherwise.

What’s “the required level”?
The ability to set up a team to be effective against the team you’re playing against.

His arrogance is astounding.

He’s all about Team Kompany not BFC. We’re just a stop over on his way to the top…

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Re: Kompany

Post by 123EasyasBFC » Sat May 11, 2024 6:42 pm

Cooclaret wrote:
Sat May 11, 2024 6:36 pm
The ability to set up a team to be effective against the team you’re playing against.

His arrogance is astounding.

He’s all about Team Kompany not BFC. We’re just a stop over on his way to the top…
And the next manager will be the same, no manager sets out to just manage Burnley all his career.

De zerbi doesn’t want to stay at Brighton the rest of his career.

Strange argument to say he’s team kompany not team BFC. If kompany wants to go to the top then BFC need to be successful not relegated
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Re: Kompany

Post by DCWat » Sat May 11, 2024 6:48 pm

Cooclaret wrote:
Sat May 11, 2024 6:36 pm
The ability to set up a team to be effective against the team you’re playing against.

His arrogance is astounding.

He’s all about Team Kompany not BFC. We’re just a stop over on his way to the top…
I 100% want players and managers that see us as a stepping stone on their way to the top. If they’re successful, Burnley is successful.

We will never be more than a small club in a big pond, at this level. We need to take advantage, wherever we can, of up and coming stars, be that managers or players.

We are what we are, we’ve been really successful doing it and we should be proud of it.
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Re: Kompany

Post by Cooclaret » Sat May 11, 2024 7:18 pm

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Sat May 11, 2024 6:42 pm
And the next manager will be the same, no manager sets out to just manage Burnley all his career.

De zerbi doesn’t want to stay at Brighton the rest of his career.

Strange argument to say he’s team kompany not team BFC. If kompany wants to go to the top then BFC need to be successful not relegated
Not at all when the argument is that that brand comes above and at a cost to BFC!

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Re: Kompany

Post by 123EasyasBFC » Sat May 11, 2024 7:20 pm

Cooclaret wrote:
Sat May 11, 2024 7:18 pm
Not at all when the argument is that that brand comes above and at a cost to BFC!
Again though the brand of football played only gets him the top job if he is successful with it.

You can be kompany out or say hes not good enough or whatever but your argument about him putting himself over the club just doesn’t make sense. For kompany to be successful in his management career moving forwards Burnley have to be successful

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Re: Kompany

Post by Cooclaret » Sat May 11, 2024 8:19 pm

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Sat May 11, 2024 7:20 pm
Again though the brand of football played only gets him the top job if he is successful with it.

You can be kompany out or say hes not good enough or whatever but your argument about him putting himself over the club just doesn’t make sense. For kompany to be successful in his management career moving forwards Burnley have to be successful
No they don’t, Kompany can promote his scouting business, and show case those players.

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Re: Kompany

Post by 123EasyasBFC » Sat May 11, 2024 8:22 pm

Cooclaret wrote:
Sat May 11, 2024 8:19 pm
No they don’t, Kompany can promote his scouting business, and show case those players.
Again for his ‘scouting business’ and so called showcasing of players, that only works if Burnley succeed. I don’t understand why you can’t grasp how it works, for kompany to be successful the team he’s managing needs to be successful
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Re: Kompany

Post by zippybid » Sat May 11, 2024 8:23 pm

Common sense isn't common.

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Re: Kompany

Post by Cooclaret » Sat May 11, 2024 8:44 pm

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Sat May 11, 2024 8:22 pm
Again for his ‘scouting business’ and so called showcasing of players, that only works if Burnley succeed. I don’t understand why you can’t grasp how it works, for kompany to be successful the team he’s managing needs to be successful
So Berge who hasn’t been in a successful team, won’t be snapped up by a premier league team?

Kompany needed a platform, not a successful business. The two aren’t the same.

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Post by andyh » Sat May 11, 2024 8:47 pm

Why didn’t you trust the players that won you promotion and instead went for untried players who ultimately let you down.
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Re: Kompany

Post by 123EasyasBFC » Sat May 11, 2024 8:48 pm

Cooclaret wrote:
Sat May 11, 2024 8:44 pm
So Berge who hasn’t been in a successful team, won’t be snapped up by a premier league team?

Kompany needed a platform, not a successful business. The two aren’t the same.
You think Berge came through kompanys scouting business hahaha come on your clutching. Every premier league club knew about Berge.

Everyone wanting to progress needs a platform to start but you have to be successful. If the rumour Chelsea and spurs were looking at kompany last season, if they needed a new manager this season they wouldn’t be looking at kompany because of the marker he’s put down with his style of football and scouting business.

They would look elsewhere because he hasn’t been successful

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Re: Kompany

Post by Cooclaret » Sat May 11, 2024 10:36 pm

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Sat May 11, 2024 8:48 pm
You think Berge came through kompanys scouting business hahaha come on your clutching. Every premier league club knew about Berge.

Everyone wanting to progress needs a platform to start but you have to be successful. If the rumour Chelsea and spurs were looking at kompany last season, if they needed a new manager this season they wouldn’t be looking at kompany because of the marker he’s put down with his style of football and scouting business.

They would look elsewhere because he hasn’t been successful

I am not sure I did say that. I was proving the point. Kompany saying (which remains ridiculous) that we have our first 100 million pound player in the squad suggests that he is using us as a showcase.

The blokes a businessman first and manager second.

The sooner he’s out of our club and using someone else the better. Sadly, he’s in too deep, and got his claws in too far to be removed.

I hope someone comes in for him over the summer, because I DO NOT want him in charge of another window!

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Re: Kompany

Post by 123EasyasBFC » Sat May 11, 2024 10:40 pm

Cooclaret wrote:
Sat May 11, 2024 10:36 pm
I am not sure I did say that. I was proving the point. Kompany saying (which remains ridiculous) that we have our first 100 million pound player in the squad suggests that he is using us as a showcase.

The blokes a businessman first and manager second.

The sooner he’s out of our club and using someone else the better. Sadly, he’s in too deep, and got his claws in too far to be removed.

I hope someone comes in for him over the summer, because I DO NOT want him in charge of another window!
You aren’t proving any point and you’re clutching. Everything you are arguing only works if kompany is successful and the only way kompany is successful is if Burnley are successful

Calling kompany a business man referencing his scouting business, he’s not going to get much uptake on that business if he’s been relegated.

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Re: Kompany

Post by Cooclaret » Sat May 11, 2024 10:41 pm

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Sat May 11, 2024 10:40 pm
You aren’t proving any point and you’re clutching. Everything you are arguing only works if kompany is successful and the only way kompany is successful is if Burnley are successful

Calling kompany a business man referencing his scouting business, he’s not going to get much uptake on that business if he’s been relegated.
I am giving up for the night. It’s painful, you’re painful.

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Re: Kompany

Post by 123EasyasBFC » Sat May 11, 2024 11:07 pm

Cooclaret wrote:
Sat May 11, 2024 10:41 pm
I am giving up for the night. It’s painful, you’re painful.
Multiple people have called you out for lack of common sense. It’s fine to dislike kompany and the season but everything you are saying kompany is trying to get out of Burnley only works in Burnley are successful

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Re: Kompany

Post by Wile E Coyote » Sat May 11, 2024 11:46 pm

whether modern football is a ***** business or not, we all buy into it. Pointless moaning about one person in a financial model.
Kompany seems a decent man, he has the job, and he worked a miracle within a few months last season. There are NO candidates out there that can do things differently when the game is run the way it is.
I hope he remains in charge for decades

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Re: Kompany

Post by stateofthenation » Sat May 11, 2024 11:58 pm

Just seen his interview on motd and his first thought was about ‘Vincent’
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Re: Kompany

Post by Neil » Sun May 12, 2024 12:00 am

Wile E Coyote wrote:
Sat May 11, 2024 11:46 pm
whether modern football is a ***** business or not, we all buy into it. Pointless moaning about one person in a financial model.
Kompany seems a decent man, he has the job, and he worked a miracle within a few months last season. There are NO candidates out there that can do things differently when the game is run the way it is.
I hope he remains in charge for decades
Sorry mate but that's one of the worst comments I've seen on here.

If they put me in charge last summer and gave me half of Kompanys budget I couldn't have done much worse.

I would have kept the majority of last seasons team, signed a left back, a central midfielder and a centre forward and a few squad players.

I would have asked the players to play in the positions they've played most of their life and my team talks would have been, go out and play like.last season because you all know more about football than me.

Sounds ridiculous but I'd probably have got 30 points.

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Re: Kompany

Post by Big Vinny K » Sun May 12, 2024 12:13 am

Neil wrote:
Sun May 12, 2024 12:00 am
Sorry mate but that's one of the worst comments I've seen on here.

If they put me in charge last summer and gave me half of Kompanys budget I couldn't have done much worse.

I would have kept the majority of last seasons team, signed a left back, a central midfielder and a centre forward and a few squad players.

I would have asked the players to play in the positions they've played most of their life and my team talks would have been, go out and play like.last season because you all know more about football than me.

Sounds ridiculous but I'd probably have got 30 points.
“Sounds ridiculous” because IT IS ridiculous.
What planet are you on thinking you can manage a team in the premier league and get 30 points ?
This messageboard is unbelievable some times.

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Re: Kompany

Post by Jakubclaret » Sun May 12, 2024 12:20 am

In fairness doing the basics you wouldn't be far off. For me what shearer said on motd summed things up perfectly he's been trying to implement a system which doesn't work in this league he's never had the calibre of players to make it work even if was to work.
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Re: Kompany

Post by taio » Sun May 12, 2024 12:22 am

Neil wrote:
Sun May 12, 2024 12:00 am
Sorry mate but that's one of the worst comments I've seen on here.

If they put me in charge last summer and gave me half of Kompanys budget I couldn't have done much worse.

I would have kept the majority of last seasons team, signed a left back, a central midfielder and a centre forward and a few squad players.

I would have asked the players to play in the positions they've played most of their life and my team talks would have been, go out and play like.last season because you all know more about football than me.

Sounds ridiculous but I'd probably have got 30 points.
No, you wouldn't

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Re: Kompany

Post by Jakubclaret » Sun May 12, 2024 12:29 am

taio wrote:
Sun May 12, 2024 12:22 am
No, you wouldn't
It'd never be tested to say 1 way or the other but it would be possible for somebody off the street with some sort of football knowledge regarding tactics & systems to do that, remember he's also got CB & MJ helping out although it's questionable how effective they are at what they are supposed to be doing. If you are talking about somebody that's made a success out of something it'd be hard to replicate but for all intent & purposes this seasons been a failure you can't describe it any other way.

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Re: Kompany

Post by dansch » Sun May 12, 2024 12:30 am

When can you start Neil?
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Re: Kompany

Post by taio » Sun May 12, 2024 12:34 am

Jakubclaret wrote:
Sun May 12, 2024 12:29 am
It'd never be tested to say 1 way or the other but it would be possible for somebody off the street with some sort of football knowledge regarding tactics & systems to do that, remember he's also got CB & MJ helping out although it's questionable how effective they are at what they are supposed to be doing. If you are talking about somebody that's made a success out of something it'd be hard to replicate but for all intent & purposes this seasons been a failure you can't describe it any other way.
Eh?

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Re: Kompany

Post by Jakubclaret » Sun May 12, 2024 12:38 am

taio wrote:
Sun May 12, 2024 12:34 am
Eh?
I'm stating that it wouldn't be impossible for that poster or anybody else to achieve 30pts starting the season in the exact same circumstances as kompany. He's made a lot of mistakes for somebody's who's supposed to be a professional football manager & he had a good advantage to start with with the money available.

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Re: Kompany

Post by RVclaret » Sun May 12, 2024 8:06 am

Neil wrote:
Sun May 12, 2024 12:00 am
Sorry mate but that's one of the worst comments I've seen on here.

If they put me in charge last summer and gave me half of Kompanys budget I couldn't have done much worse.

I would have kept the majority of last seasons team, signed a left back, a central midfielder and a centre forward and a few squad players.

I would have asked the players to play in the positions they've played most of their life and my team talks would have been, go out and play like.last season because you all know more about football than me.

Sounds ridiculous but I'd probably have got 30 points.
😂

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Re: Kompany

Post by Neil » Sun May 12, 2024 8:33 am

Big Vinny K wrote:
Sun May 12, 2024 12:13 am
“Sounds ridiculous” because IT IS ridiculous.
What planet are you on thinking you can manage a team in the premier league and get 30 points ?
This messageboard is unbelievable some times.
It was obviously a flippant comment to highlight how badly Kompany has performed and in response to someone saying there are NO candidates out there that could have done things differently and wants Kompany in charge for decades.

Thought that would have been pretty obvious.

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Re: Kompany

Post by Big Vinny K » Sun May 12, 2024 9:07 am

Neil wrote:
Sun May 12, 2024 8:33 am
It was obviously a flippant comment to highlight how badly Kompany has performed and in response to someone saying there are NO candidates out there that could have done things differently and wants Kompany in charge for decades.

Thought that would have been pretty obvious.
Aye - pretty obvious….listing all the things you would have done differently with half his budget and even pointing out that your claim that you would get 30 points was not ridiculous.
You got us all there with that one eh.

But at least you got one poster defending you. No big surprise who either.

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Re: Kompany

Post by Neil » Sun May 12, 2024 9:27 am

Big Vinny K wrote:
Sun May 12, 2024 9:07 am
Aye - pretty obvious….listing all the things you would have done differently with half his budget and even pointing out that your claim that you would get 30 points was not ridiculous.
You got us all there with that one eh.

But at least you got one poster defending you. No big surprise who either.
I'm not insane mate.

I was trying to point out what I thought would have been the more obvious way to tackle the Premier League, ie kee the majority of last seasons squad, add players where we were lacking and play them in their natural positions.

If in some parallel universe where the man off the street could get a Premier League manager's job, I would have tried to use what football knowledge I have and set up a team and system for each game, not say go out and do what you did last season because you know more about football than me every week.

Maybe I worded the last line badly.

Should have said -

Sounds ridiculous.

I'd probably have got 30 points!

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Re: Kompany

Post by JohnMac » Sun May 12, 2024 9:28 am

I wish folk would stop blaming Kompany for the failure to keep Tella, Maatsen and Harwood-Bellis.

Signing some of the under performing players this season is real life football, not a fantasy game.

There are talented players in our squad who haven't settled in, it happens the World over but as Clarets we are used to dealing with bargain basement or budget driven workhorses not multi million pound potential.

The selections, at times bizzare, the inability to produce a settled side and insistence on trying to match better experienced teams head to head are the real issues.

Not all down to the Management though as there are a few players who need to look at themselves and decide if they did enough. There are a few that are like peanut brittle as well, tough looking but shatter when tapped!

A poor season based against expectation but we will come back again.

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Re: Kompany

Post by Gaia » Sun May 12, 2024 10:39 am

Article in the independent

Naive Burnley left counting cost of a season that has become a very expensive mistake
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Re: Kompany

Post by Cooclaret » Sun May 12, 2024 11:05 am

Jakubclaret wrote:
Sun May 12, 2024 12:20 am
In fairness doing the basics you wouldn't be far off. For me what shearer said on motd summed things up perfectly he's been trying to implement a system which doesn't work in this league he's never had the calibre of players to make it work even if was to work.
And yet people still believe he’s here for BFC. He’s here for Kompany and his brand.

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