Summer 2024 Transfer Window Discussion - Rumours and Links welcome

[GetIntoEm]

I think there we might end up getting a good fee for Trafford. Surely the reason we signed him is because we know the clamour at the top clubs for home grown players.

He'd be absolutely ideal as a backup keeper for one of the top clubs to ensure they fill the home grown quota. They wouldn't need to play him much, maybe in the cup comps, allowing him to develop until he's ready to be a number 1. Because of his age he could stay at a big club for over 10 years either as a number 1 or 2 depending on how well he develops so it could be a wise investment.

Also looking at how clubs account for their fees, if they give him a 5 year deal and sign him for say 25 mill. That would be broken down at about 5 mill per year which is a drop in the ocean for the big clubs.

him going to the Euros will only add to his value

[jedi_master]

Have a feeling and heard rumours he is Leicester bound

I'd be surprised if a Prem team took him (on what I have seen I am not convinced he is going to be of that level), then again on a free transfer you could pick him up knowing you could sell him for easy money too 6-12 months down the line I suppose.

[NewClaret]

Have a feeling and heard rumours he is Leicester bound

Would make sense.

More local, shot at the prem. Will be coming straight back down though, especially with their points deduction pending.

[warksclaret]

Would make sense.

More local, shot at the prem. Will be coming straight back down though, especially with their points deduction pending.

Leicester I agree will do well to stay up. O Hare had a great game against Leicester this season, which is why they seem keen

[123EasyasBFC]

him going to the Euros will only add to his value

Do people actually think Trafford is going to the euros?

[GetIntoEm]

Do people actually think Trafford is going to the euros?

if he takes 3 keepers, probably.

[zippybid]

Do people actually think Trafford is going to the euros?

He got selected for the full squad due to Sam Johnstone getting an injury that appears to have ruled him out of the Euros.

[equinox]

What's Ross Barkleys situation at Luton?

Probably wouldn't want to play in the Championship but if was prepared to he'd be perfect and would give continuity going into the following season, hopefully back in the Premier League.

We need to be thinking ahead this time.

[Goliath]

He got selected for the full squad due to Sam Johnstone getting an injury that appears to have ruled him out of the Euros.

Nick pope is fit again
Surely he goes ahead of Trafford.

[CharlieinNewMexico]

He’s already in the Championship so why come to us? He’ll go to someone like Fulham, West Ham, Galatasaray.

I’d be worried if I was a Luton fan. I can see Barkley, Lokonga, Doughty, Ogbenie, Morris, Townsend AND the coach all leaving.

[Swizzlestick]

He’s already in the Championship so why come to us? He’ll go to someone like Fulham, West Ham, Galatasaray.

I’d be worried if I was a Luton fan. I can see Barkley, Lokonga, Doughty, Ogbenie, Morris, Townsend AND the coach all leaving.

Can't see that tbh. They'll be clubs looking to take a punt on Barkley possibly, Lokonga is back to Arsenal and heading to maybe an Ipswich or something, but the other four could easily stay. Morris and Townsend in particular didn't pull up too many trees in the PL. I'd imagine it'd need a decent offer for Edwards to leave too. Luton in a strong position to be right up there again.

[123EasyasBFC]

if he takes 3 keepers, probably.

Pickford ramsdale butland

[123EasyasBFC]

He got selected for the full squad due to Sam Johnstone getting an injury that appears to have ruled him out of the Euros.

They had an injury and u21s where training at same place, made total sense to just put Trafford in the senior squad than calling someone else up

[123EasyasBFC]

He’s already in the Championship so why come to us? He’ll go to someone like Fulham, West Ham, Galatasaray.

I’d be worried if I was a Luton fan. I can see Barkley, Lokonga, Doughty, Ogbenie, Morris, Townsend AND the coach all leaving.

I agree Luton will either only lose Barkley lokonga and doughty and have a really good championship team or their squad will be dismantled.

Ogbenie getting injured for them was a massive miss

[equinox]

He’s already in the Championship so why come to us? He’ll go to someone like Fulham, West Ham, Galatasaray.

Return to the North West, perhaps?

[CharlieinNewMexico]

Looks like Ostende are being wound up due to more boardroom financial skullduggery. Presumably all players will become Free Agents.

[Elbarad]

I'd like to see Gio Reyna come in on loan. I know it didn't work at Forest, but I'd like to think Kompany could sell him on his fit in our attacking style in the Championship. He has all the talent in the world, just needs minutes.

I also don't think this is likely, just wishing.

[bumba]

What's Ross Barkleys situation at Luton?

Probably wouldn't want to play in the Championship but if was prepared to he'd be perfect and would give continuity going into the following season, hopefully back in the Premier League.

We need to be thinking ahead this time.

If we did lose Berge for good money but could convince Barkley to come it wouldn't be too bad but if we could get him sat in with Cullen and Berge more advanced in the championship it's be unstoppable

[NewClaret]

Barkley will have a queue of prem clubs in for him. Would likely repay Luton’s faith if going to play in the Prem, and we couldn’t afford him anyway.

An absolute no go, unfortunately.

[Nonayforever]

If I were part of the management decision team, I would let Sander go out on loan to a PL club thereby letting him keep his PL skills sharp , keep his value stable, possibly making a profit on his wages, coupled with the fact that he could return if we are struggling come January.
A midfield of Cullen & Vitinho plus two wingers would see us too fast for most championship teams.

[Silkyskills1]

Vitinho in midfield? Would it be his passing ability that impresses you or maybe his decision making in tight spaces?

[Goliath]

Vitinho in midfield? Would it be his passing ability that impresses you or maybe his decision making in tight spaces?

I presumed he was fishing.

[Pickles]

A midfield of Cullen & Vitinho plus two wingers would see us too fast for most championship teams.

Please no. After a season watching Vitinho almost inexplicably playing on the wing, I think one with him in central midfield may tip me over the edge.

[Targetman]

Pickford ramsdale butland

Nick Pope??

[Poulton-le-Claret]

Pickford ramsdale butland

JT has played more PL matches than all 3 combined this season

[boatshed bill]

JT has played more PL matches than all 3 combined this season

Funny, even if incorrect

[Poulton-le-Claret]

Funny, even if incorrect

I'm sure that said Pope before. Maybe it has been edited, although a lot more likely I have lost the plot

[Guller Bull]

If Beyer is desperate to move and we are looking to get a decent fee for Beyer then I think he will need to prove his fitness first which if the info in the link is correct, might take a while.

https://www.burnleyexpress.net/sport/fo ... ry-4630300

[morninbob]

Stoke are signing Johansson, the keeper from Rotherham for 1m, good, cheap signing IMO.

[AGENT_CLARET]

Stoke are signing Johansson, the keeper from Rotherham for 1m, good, cheap signing IMO.

We missed a trick there he's a fantastic keeper , we should of been all over this because we'll 100% lose one of Trafford or Muric

[Goliath]

If Beyer is desperate to move and we are looking to get a decent fee for Beyer then I think he will need to prove his fitness first which if the info in the link is correct, might take a while.

https://www.burnleyexpress.net/sport/fo ... ry-4630300

We should just use him as a right back. That's the way the big clubs play now and I think he's more than capable of inverting or going on the outside with his composure on the ball.
If we could then get a more dynamic left back it would give a nice balance.

[bobinho]

JT has played more PL matches than all 3 combined this season

Completely irrelevant with Southgate at the helm…. He even takes players to tournaments who have to be prised off the treatment table….

[bobinho]

We should just use him as a right back. That's the way the big clubs play now and I think he's more than capable of inverting or going on the outside with his composure on the ball.
If we could then get a more dynamic left back it would give a nice balance.

Pace might be the issue here… Jordan’s pace, not Alan….

[Goliath]

Pace might be the issue here… Jordan’s pace, not Alan….

I don't think he's slow to be honest. In any case there's not a lot of great and rapid left wingers in the Championship. We could always rotate him with the new guy coming in from PSV.
It gives us extra versatility and allows us to cut the squad down a bit more having him able to cover cb and rb.

[Tricky Trevor]

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Off thread I know but just above that story was one thatBayern are willing to pay De Zerbis’ £12m release clause. What has this fella done? He took a very good Potter team and kept them where they were and this season they’ve gone backwards.

[Woodleyclaret]

We need to be looking at a tough tackling cm
Needed all season .Alex Mowat is ooc at WBA

[Pearcey]

We need to look for some good characters as well. Last season we had Tella, THB, Barnes etc. Hard to think of any regular first team players from this season that have much personality about them. I believe, Jay has tried to bond them unsuccessfully. May not seem important and it’s obviously only my perception but I wouldn’t fancy going to work with a load of boring people.

[ksrclaret]

Yes we definitely need to add some better characters to the team this summer. Everything we've seen this season from the players has appeared to be so transactional and clinical. No real personality to any of them and certainly very little passion.

Everyone going on about whether O'Shea is slightly better than THB at defending on the half way line, or whether we should have paid that extra few million for Tella over signing teenagers with higher resale values, fail to recognise what brilliant characters they both were and the connection they had with the fans. I'm certain we wouldn't have seen some of the pathetic displays had we prioritised a strong dressing room over a potentially stronger balance sheet.

[NewClaret]

Yes we definitely need to add some better characters to the team this summer. Everything we've seen this season from the players has appeared to be so transactional and clinical. No real personality to any of them and certainly very little passion.

Everyone going on about whether O'Shea is slightly better than THB at defending on the half way line, or whether we should have paid that extra few million for Tella over signing teenagers with higher resale values, fail to recognise what brilliant characters they both were and the connection they had with the fans. I'm certain we wouldn't have seen some of the pathetic displays had we prioritised a strong dressing room over a potentially stronger balance sheet.

There is absolutely no doubt whatsoever that O’Shea is a better defender from the half way line. THB was a great player for us but lacked pace and you cannot go for players that cost £20m who don’t have the attributes you need even if they are good leaders.

Let’s not confuse the three cheers thing at the end with the fans as leadership though. Thats easy stuff to do when you’re winning. Tresor might do it next year and it wouldn’t make him a great leader. It’s the organisation on the pitch and the stuff that goes on behind the scenes you don’t see that defines great leaders.

On the organisation point, you saw O’Shea lifting Assingnon up and trying to get on with the game and he’s very vocal generally. Esteve also at the Sheffield United game I saw after the third goal organising and gathering people while others were celebrating, etc. Didn’t see that from any player last season. So I’m not sure we’re lacking leadership at the back.

Tella was a big personality, I agree, and I’m sure that is missed but again, I’m not sure having a bubbly character around the dressing room is worth £20m.

[ksrclaret]

There is absolutely no doubt whatsoever that O’Shea is a better defender from the half way line. THB was a great player for us but lacked pace and you cannot go for players that cost £20m who don’t have the attributes you need even if they are good leaders.

Let’s not confuse the three cheers thing at the end with the fans as leadership though. Thats easy stuff to do when you’re winning. Tresor might do it next year and it wouldn’t make him a great leader. It’s the organisation on the pitch and the stuff that goes on behind the scenes you don’t see that defines great leaders.

On the organisation point, you saw O’Shea lifting Assingnon up and trying to get on with the game and he’s very vocal generally. Esteve also at the Sheffield United game I saw after the third goal organising and gathering people while others were celebrating, etc. Didn’t see that from any player last season. So I’m not sure we’re lacking leadership at the back.

Tella was a big personality, I agree, and I’m sure that is missed but again, I’m not sure having a bubbly character around the dressing room is worth £20m.

Don’t think THB was £20m.

We have clearly lacked leadership all season. I’m surprised anyone would question that.

You don’t pay £20m for a bubbly character but you might if they’re a bloody good footballer as well. That’s a really disingenuous take on my post.

[ArmchairDetective]

Hopefully a couple of the players we have already start to show a bit more leadership. Not taking anything away from THB's performances last season but it's easier to be a leader in a team that's winning. Much harder to be a leader in a young team that isn't doing well.

I can see Esteve becoming a leader in this team by the way he's presented himself on and off the pitch in interviews. Comes across as a really motivated yet level headed lad. Future captain material.

[brexit]

There is absolutely no doubt whatsoever that O’Shea is a better defender from the half way line. THB was a great player for us but lacked pace and you cannot go for players that cost £20m who don’t have the attributes you need even if they are good leaders.

Let’s not confuse the three cheers thing at the end with the fans as leadership though. Thats easy stuff to do when you’re winning. Tresor might do it next year and it wouldn’t make him a great leader. It’s the organisation on the pitch and the stuff that goes on behind the scenes you don’t see that defines great leaders.

On the organisation point, you saw O’Shea lifting Assingnon up and trying to get on with the game and he’s very vocal generally. Esteve also at the Sheffield United game I saw after the third goal organising and gathering people while others were celebrating, etc. Didn’t see that from any player last season. So I’m not sure we’re lacking leadership at the back.

Tella was a big personality, I agree, and I’m sure that is missed but again, I’m not sure having a bubbly character around the dressing room is worth £20m.

I know we discuss positions a lot on this thread, left backs strikers etc, but what we have lacked this season is a leader on the pitch. We need a captain to motivate and organise the team on the field. We missed jack Cork this season not for playing ability but for his captaincy. i don't know who in the current squad can fill that role.

[AGENT_CLARET]

I know we discuss positions a lot on this thread, left backs strikers etc, but what we have lacked this season is a leader on the pitch. We need a captain to motivate and organise the team on the field. We missed jack Cork this season not for playing ability but for his captaincy. i don't know who in the current squad can fill that role.

Cullen

[Grimsdale]

For anyone wondering how long it would be before we heard from our Turkish friends this transfer window, the answer is not very long.

Besiktas interested in signing Ekdal who, apparently, doesn't want to play in the Championship.

https://www.takvim.com.tr/spor/2024/05/ ... ine-ekledi

[morninbob]

For anyone wondering how long it would be before we heard from our Turkish friends this transfer window, the answer is not very long.

Besiktas interested in signing Ekdal who, apparently, doesn't want to play in the Championship.

https://www.takvim.com.tr/spor/2024/05/ ... ine-ekledi

Wouldn't be averse to this if we can make a small profit.

[Quicknick]

Ekdal probably thinks he'll be on the bench, anyway.

[123EasyasBFC]

Twente want weghorst to return to them to, finish above Luton today, get 5m for weghorst and that’s half of tresors fee

[RVclaret]

Nixon saying both our keepers are wanted and we’ve got a decision to make.

Wolves and Celtic been watching Muric and we want at least £10m.

Newcastle viewing Trafford as a ‘long term project’.

[burnleymik]

Nixon saying both our keepers are wanted and we’ve got a decision to make.

Wolves and Celtic been watching Muric and we want at least £10m.

Newcastle viewing Trafford as a ‘long term project’.

If Muric wants to stay he would be my first choice, I am just not sure Trafford has the ability to play the style VK wants.

[RVclaret]

If Muric wants to stay he would be my first choice, I am just not sure Trafford has the ability to play the style VK wants.

Who knows, the lad is 21, I’ve said this on here before but at the same age Raya was poor with his feet (Rovers mate), average at Brentford at first and then improved massively in the past season or two, getting a move to Arsenal for that reason. He’s got the ‘raw tools’ for it in my opinion. I’m happy either way in the Champ so I guess it boils down to who attracts the bids and the largest of them.