Tresor and Esteve

[ElectroClaret]

Pleased with getting Esteve.
As for Tresor, got to go with the manager on this, and hope he's learned from the mistakes of this season and that he sees something in training that convinces him that this is a good move.

[Newcastleclaret93]

Tresor should be our star player in the championship.

Physically and quality wise it’s a massive drop from the premier league.

I’m hoping this is exactly what he needs to toughen him up ahead of another premier league season

[ClaretFelix]

BECAUSE he's being played on the wrong wing, if played on the left he can whip in a ball with his left foot on the go, but on the right he needs to stop adjust his body turn angle to put the ball in with his stronger left after he's done all that the defender had the time then to be on him, Kompany for what ever reason plays him in the wrong position

He's right footed...

[Vegas Claret]

similar in stature to Summerville of Leeds, he hasn't struggled in the Championship

[Claretitus]

So we’re now lumbered with Tresor. A player who looks so disinterested even when he’s sub and “ warming up”. I bet he’s never even needed a shower after “playing” for us, such is his lack of effort.

[Jakubs Tash]

Looks as though the efforts to pull the plug on the Trésor deal have failed

[123EasyasBFC]

Looks as though the efforts to pull the plug on the Trésor deal have failed

If we were trying to get genk to have him back then I don’t blame them, they had a 15m player on their hands last summer, if they took him back now they would get nowhere near that

[AGENT_CLARET]

He's right footed...

Played 90% of his career on the left wing yet Kompany plays him on the right

He plays with both feet but prefers his right foot but shoots with his left most of the time

[ArmchairDetective]

Just listened to the press conference and unless I missed something I didn't hear confirmation that they've both signed.

[morninbob]

Just listened to the press conference and unless I missed something I didn't hear confirmation that they've both signed.

He was asked by radio Lancashire " it's my understanding that Tresor and esteve will be here permanently next year" vk agreed.

[PremierLeagueClass]

No chance Tresor will play in the championship. Feel like we could be lumbered with him for some time. Only hope is he gets a loan and puts himself in the shop window for next summer.

[Nonayforever]

Really pleased for Esteve.

In regards to Tresor , posters saying he's going to be great in the Championship - who's place is he going to take ?
It won't be JBL, that's Odoberts position now, it won't be Bensons or Koleosho.
He's still odd man out.

[bumba]

Really pleased for Esteve.

In regards to Tresor , posters saying he's going to be great in the Championship - who's place is he going to take ?
It won't be JBL, that's Odoberts position now, it won't be Bensons or Koleosho.
He's still odd man out.

I think one of Koleosho or Odobert will leave

[Jakubclaret]

I think one of Koleosho or Odobert will leave

Without a shadow especially if either are on a wad. None have really made enough of an impact on the big stage but flashes here & there would suggest they are worth a punt from somebody. In fairness regarding LK he looked to be finally getting his sh1t together before he got injured & was causing opposition defences problems with his trickery & pace.

[ArmchairDetective]

He was asked by radio Lancashire " it's my understanding that Tresor and esteve will be here permanently next year" vk agreed.

Ah yes. I missed that. Thanks.

[ArmchairDetective]

Without a shadow especially if either are on a wad. None have really made enough of an impact on the big stage but flashes here & there would suggest they are worth a punt from somebody. In fairness regarding LK he looked to be finally getting his sh1t together before he got injured & was causing opposition defences problems with his trickery & pace.

He wasn't played as a typical winger at Genk. More inside. Comments that he could be our new Tella are probably a little off. Understandable given we've barely seen him. Could be one of a few reasons why he hasn't done particularly well when we have played him. Could easily make a case for him to play in the number 10 role that Amdouni was played in during the first half of this season. Not saying we should. But he's an option there.

[AGENT_CLARET]

I think one of Koleosho or Odobert will leave

And Benson

[bumba]

Without a shadow especially if either are on a wad. None have really made enough of an impact on the big stage but flashes here & there would suggest they are worth a punt from somebody. In fairness regarding LK he looked to be finally getting his sh1t together before he got injured & was causing opposition defences problems with his trickery & pace.

Koleosho could go either way we may see the most profit in him due to his cheap deal and won't be on massive wages or we may think he's on a manageable wage and we've paid the transfer off we can keep him for another 2 years and get more value down the line.
Odobert I wouldn't be surprised to see some top half Ligue 1 club come in for him

[ArmchairDetective]

He wasn't played as a typical winger at Genk. More inside. Comments that he could be our new Tella are probably a little off. Understandable given we've barely seen him. Could be one of a few reasons why he hasn't done particularly well when we have played him. Could easily make a case for him to play in the number 10 role that Amdouni was played in during the first half of this season. Not saying we should. But he's an option there.

Sorry Jakub just realised I quoted the wrong post

[Jakubclaret]

Koleosho could go either way we may see the most profit in him due to his cheap deal and won't be on massive wages or we may think he's on a manageable wage and we've paid the transfer off we can keep him for another 2 years and get more value down the line.
Odobert I wouldn't be surprised to see some top half Ligue 1 club come in for him

I think we can agree nobody is safe literally anything & anybody will shift if the money is offered & right. Some might not say that's not unique all clubs do it but it kind of negates the point that we are supposedly meant to be developing them for the benefit of the club & selling them for mega big bucks. I guess it's wait & see before jumping the gun.

[KRBFC]

BECAUSE he's being played on the wrong wing, if played on the left he can whip in a ball with his left foot on the go, but on the right he needs to stop adjust his body turn angle to put the ball in with his stronger left after he's done all that the defender had the time then to be on him, Kompany for what ever reason plays him in the wrong position

Iv seen him play more on the left than I have on the right, so that’s not true at all. One time he did play on the right was Forest away and he showed glimpses of technical ability.

[Pearcey]

He’s a strange one is Trésor. Did brilliantly in Belgium but just hasn’t got going for us. Saying that, the whole team didn’t get going until the last couple of months. The jury is still out for me. Would love to see him play well next season because there’s obviously something there.

[Jamesy]

15 million, 13 million and 17 million all quoted within a few posts, nobody has any idea what we paid for him, how much of it was add ons etc etc. Whatever it was we've seen zero return on the investment so far

A couple of million here or there is irrelevant really. Fact is, he has cost a lot of money and we have well and truly had our pants pulled down.

[Jakubclaret]

A couple of million here or there is irrelevant really. Fact is, he has cost a lot of money and we have well and truly had our pants pulled down.

Dry power bummed springs to mind. We seem to be very easy targets. you wouldn't make a healthy living on a KY jelly commission based system heading towards east lancs.

[NewClaret]

A couple of million here or there is irrelevant really. Fact is, he has cost a lot of money and we have well and truly had our pants pulled down.

Far too early to tell that. Not all signings make an instant impact and shouldn’t be expected to.

[Goody1975]

I would hope that 95% of the players we start next season with are already here, yes there will be departures and some of those will be players we want to keep but a full pre season for the manager with the players will be crucial.

If Tresor does stay next season, then a full pre season and a few friendlies will do him as much good as anyone we currently have.

[KRBFC]

A couple of million here or there is irrelevant really. Fact is, he has cost a lot of money and we have well and truly had our pants pulled down.

More nonsense

[LincsWoldsClaret]

More nonsense

More unmitigated drivel

[Wokingclaret]

More nonsense

Sadly. I imagine someone else will be needed to be sold to cover this

[Jambounchained]

Surely nobody’s taking Koleosho?

15 appearances, 1 goal - followed by a terrible injury.

I really can’t see anyone coming in for him TBH.

[ArmchairDetective]

I would hope that 95% of the players we start next season with are already here, yes there will be departures and some of those will be players we want to keep but a full pre season for the manager with the players will be crucial.

If Tresor does stay next season, then a full pre season and a few friendlies will do him as much good as anyone we currently have.

I agree with the sentiment but the remaining 5% gives us around 1 player, or 1 and a quarter players to be precise based on a 25 man squad. Hopefully that means we're signing a left back and another Manuel Benson

I agree though, we don't need more than a handful of players for this team to get promoted. There's plenty of talent already here and this team is crying out for consistency.

[JohnMcGreal]

Far too early to tell that. Not all signings make an instant impact and shouldn’t be expected to.

I don't think the length of an entire season qualifies as 'instant', does it?

Maybe Tresor will be decent in the Championship, but that's not what we bought him for. Also, you can pick up players who are great in the Championship for a fraction of what we paid for Tresor, as we know from experience.

[PremierLeagueClass]

Surely nobody’s taking Koleosho?

15 appearances, 1 goal - followed by a terrible injury.

I really can’t see anyone coming in for him TBH.

Unless a silly offer comes in we will want to keep him. Out of the entire squad, he’s the one we could sell in a couple of years for a huge sum.

[boyyanno]

I don't really understand why people can't be honest about Tresor.

He was clearly signed for the PL and he was a considerable outlay for us. He fell out of favour and the club wouldn't have signed him if we didn't have too- if we had a choice right now he'd have gone back.

Wether he rips up the championship or not I find a bit irrelevant. He wouldn't have signed for a Championship club and he cost considerably more than most of the players in the league.

He's turned out to be a bad signing in hindsight. He was one I was excited about but anyone still clinging on to it is clearly just trying to back an agenda.

[Spijed]

I don't think the length of an entire season qualifies as 'instant', does it?

Maybe Tresor will be decent in the Championship, but that's not what we bought him for. Also, you can pick up players who are great in the Championship for a fraction of what we paid for Tresor, as we know from experience.

Didn't Wenger used to say it took at least a season for his signings at Arsenal to settle in?

[AlargeClaret]

If he’s good in the champ then we get back what we paid with a bit added on that will be fine by me . He’s clearly no prem player like the vast majority of our squad . Work him hard , get results sell him on to the highest bidder .

[JohnMcGreal]

Didn't Wenger used to say it took at least a season for his signings at Arsenal to settle in?

Maybe. But Arsenal had the luxury of affording players time to settle in.

For a club that seems to have bet everything on achieving and maintaining PL status, I don't think we're in a position to blow £15 million+ on a player who contributes absolutely nothing for an entire season.

It's been a disastrous piece of business all round, whichever way you try and slice it.

[daveisaclaret]

I guess all the people who think it's ok Tresor looks crap and uninterested because it takes a season to get used to the Premier League will be wondering why we spent so much money on a player who couldn't be expected to contribute to the team.

[distortiondave]

I think there's a rule in place preventing a club from selling a player in the window they were signed, but I don't know in which window a mandatory purchase after a loan triggers that rule.
In short, can we sell Tresor this summer or not?

[Belgianclaret]

Tresor is still an enigma.
Tremendous ability but needs to break some sweat urgently.

[NottsClaret]

Also just because a player isn’t at Premier League level doesn’t mean they’ll ‘rip up the Championship’. They might be crap at that level too.

Pretty clear we didn’t want to keep him but we’re stuck with him now so hopefully he hits the ground running. Certainly nobody is taking him off us for any decent amount.

[alwaysaclaret]

Iv seen him play more on the left than I have on the right, so that’s not true at all. One time he did play on the right was Forest away and he showed glimpses of technical ability.

Have you actually seen tresor play for another club other than Burnley ?

[Jakubclaret]

Also just because a player isn’t at Premier League level doesn’t mean they’ll ‘rip up the Championship’. They might be crap at that level too.

Pretty clear we didn’t want to keep him but we’re stuck with him now so hopefully he hits the ground running. Certainly nobody is taking him off us for any decent amount.

Also just because a player isn’t at Premier League level doesn’t mean they’ll ‘rip up the Championship’. They might be crap at that level too.

You don't get voted Belgium player of the year without having something about you. The standard I reckon is on par with the championship certainly closer than it was to the PL anyhow. He should be ok in the championship if he isn't then something is seriously wrong.

[KRBFC]

Have you actually seen tresor play for another club other than Burnley ?

I’m talking about for Burnley, the poster I replied to said VK has been playing Tresor out of position on the right side, I don’t think that’s true, I have seen Tresor play on the left for Burnley more than the right.

[Wokingclaret]

I think there's a rule in place preventing a club from selling a player in the window they were signed, but I don't know in which window a mandatory purchase after a loan triggers that rule.
In short, can we sell Tresor this summer or not?

I think there is a rule where if they play for two clubs they can't play for a third

[Wokingclaret]

Sorry to see JBG go but guess he needs a longer deal at this stage

No surprised with Cork he wasn't used enough

Jay Rod, not sure, a lot of sentiment in this, but we certainly need better than we have.

[NewClaret]

I don't think the length of an entire season qualifies as 'instant', does it?

Maybe Tresor will be decent in the Championship, but that's not what we bought him for. Also, you can pick up players who are great in the Championship for a fraction of what we paid for Tresor, as we know from experience.

A season is, yes. How many could we all name that had a bad first year that went on to become club legends or sell for a lot of money? Or just a good profit?

We just have to wait and see with him. I’m not particularly hopeful, but it’s beyond daft to write him off for struggling to adapt to the best league in the world.

[Rileybobs]

It’s not fair to judge Tresor until we’ve been relegated, promoted again and then relegated again. He gets another 2 seasons at least for me, but if he’s not showing signs of improvement by December 2026 then I’d be looking to loan him out in the January window.

[fidelcastro]

It’s not fair to judge Tresor until we’ve been relegated, promoted again and then relegated again. He gets another 2 seasons at least for me, but if he’s not showing signs of improvement by December 2026 then I’d be looking to loan him out in the January window.

I think you're being way too harsh.

Only a contract extension will ensure we see the best of him.

[Rileybobs]

I think you're being way too harsh.

Only a contract extension will ensure we see the best of him.

To be honest, if he keeps visiting local army veterans he can stay for life - I’d offer him a player/coach role.