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Re: Next manager

Post by bumba » Wed May 22, 2024 1:17 pm

ClaretOfMancunia wrote:
Wed May 22, 2024 9:53 am
Cooper makes a lot of sense to me.
Forgot about Cooper, he'd definitely be in the discussion and would be one of my first picks

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Re: Next manager

Post by warksclaret » Wed May 22, 2024 1:28 pm

bumba wrote:
Wed May 22, 2024 1:17 pm
Forgot about Cooper, he'd definitely be in the discussion and would be one of my first picks
Forest did no better with Nunez -they still finished 17th. I think what I can remember about Cooper was the respect he had from the players and the club staff, and he understands the Championship

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Re: Next manager

Post by JR1882 » Wed May 22, 2024 1:33 pm

Cooper is an upgrade for me, out of work and an absolute no brainer if VK leaves, there’s a few interesting candidates in the champ though.

Knutsen mentioned - my worry is why is he still at Bodo? Why has no one taken a punt yet given the years of success they have had.

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Re: Next manager

Post by Anthonini » Wed May 22, 2024 1:38 pm

Take Riemer from Anderlecht and everybody's happy.

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Re: Next manager

Post by Goliath » Wed May 22, 2024 1:41 pm

JR1882 wrote:
Wed May 22, 2024 1:33 pm
Cooper is an upgrade for me, out of work and an absolute no brainer if VK leaves, there’s a few interesting candidates in the champ though.

Knutsen mentioned - my worry is why is he still at Bodo? Why has no one taken a punt yet given the years of success they have had.
Because he's a gamble that nobody's had the balls to take. I'd favour him as our next choice.

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Re: Next manager

Post by jetblackcat » Wed May 22, 2024 1:50 pm

Moyes
Cooper
Paul Warne

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Re: Next manager

Post by BigGaz » Wed May 22, 2024 1:56 pm

Knutsens name has been thrown into the ring practically every lower PL/Champ job that's become available. His agent is clearly doing some serious hawking.

Either all these clubs have had an interest and he's not impressed them or it's just paper talk and he would just be interested in literally anyone that will take him.

Neither of these scenarios make him a particularly enticing option for me.

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Re: Next manager

Post by Vegas Claret » Wed May 22, 2024 2:02 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Wed May 22, 2024 6:31 am
Where did you get that from?

All I can find in news articles at the time

‘Shilen Patel’s father, Kiran is estimated to be worth around $400 million (£318 million). It is believed that Shilen Patel himself has a net worth of around $100 million (£79.5 million).’

Quite a bit short of ‘billions’…
yeah I'm a dick, I googled 'are WBA owners wealthy' and it threw out 'Lai was estimated to be worth £2.8 billion by the Birmingham Post Rich List in 2017. That puts Lai among the richest owners in the Championship and no doubt'

That was the last guy !!! :lol: :lol: :lol: FFS :D :D
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Re: Next manager

Post by bumba » Wed May 22, 2024 2:20 pm

warksclaret wrote:
Wed May 22, 2024 1:28 pm
Forest did no better with Nunez -they still finished 17th. I think what I can remember about Cooper was the respect he had from the players and the club staff, and he understands the Championship
And he did it all without much say on the players the club were buying

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Re: Next manager

Post by Hapag Lloyd » Wed May 22, 2024 2:24 pm

ClaretOfMancunia wrote:
Wed May 22, 2024 9:53 am
Cooper makes a lot of sense to me.
It would be quite a downgrade for Little Al after “dating the most beautiful girl in town”

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Re: Next manager

Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Wed May 22, 2024 2:29 pm

Hapag Lloyd wrote:
Wed May 22, 2024 2:24 pm
It would be quite a downgrade for Little Al after “dating the most beautiful girl in town”

Aye but an ugly partner will never leave you should be the learning from this :D
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Re: Next manager

Post by KRBFC » Wed May 22, 2024 2:35 pm

Imagine crying all season wanting Kompany to go, only to want Liam Rosenior to be his replacement :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Next manager

Post by bumba » Wed May 22, 2024 3:11 pm

KRBFC wrote:
Wed May 22, 2024 2:35 pm
Imagine crying all season wanting Kompany to go, only to want Liam Rosenior to be his replacement :lol: :lol: :lol:
Who's cried all season for Kompany to go? And wants Rosenior to replace him?

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Re: Next manager

Post by IanMcL » Wed May 22, 2024 3:11 pm

Moyes would add some bite and organisation. We wouldn't win the league by a mile. We would win the league and be better prepared for prem next time.

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Re: Next manager

Post by ClaretOfMancunia » Wed May 22, 2024 3:15 pm

Hapag Lloyd wrote:
Wed May 22, 2024 2:24 pm
It would be quite a downgrade for Little Al after “dating the most beautiful girl in town”
Haha, maybe that's exactly what he needs...

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Re: Next manager

Post by brexit » Wed May 22, 2024 3:37 pm

Will Still - continuity candidate

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Re: Next manager

Post by burnley007 » Wed May 22, 2024 3:42 pm

It does look like there is no obvious candidate.

It is very worrying, I'd much rather VK stayed.

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Re: Next manager

Post by blatherwickstattoos » Wed May 22, 2024 3:43 pm

Mark robbins nailed on

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Re: Next manager

Post by GetIntoEm » Wed May 22, 2024 3:45 pm

why does Will Still get mentioned? not for me, well down the list

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Re: Next manager

Post by RVclaret » Wed May 22, 2024 3:45 pm

burnley007 wrote:
Wed May 22, 2024 3:42 pm
It does look like there is no obvious candidate.

It is very worrying, I'd much rather VK stayed.
So many good managers out there and we are a seriously attractive proposition. Young, vibrant squad, largest budget in the league after some sales, allowing a new man to bring in a few they want. Great chance of the Prem within a year.

Btw Kompany wasn’t even in the betting odds 2 years ago.

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Re: Next manager

Post by jedi_master » Wed May 22, 2024 3:49 pm

I reckon there are decent candidates to be honest - even just looking at the out of work crew, Moyes might be more of a punt but he’s a possible. Cooper got Forest up (just about) and he kept them up, has to be considered I’d have thought.

Plenty in jobs that would more than likely come also. I am more conservative than most (or risk averse) but I’d like to see a more ‘safe’ option come in this time. There’s a lot of work to do with that squad and it needs someone with a big broom.

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Re: Next manager

Post by dandeclaret » Wed May 22, 2024 3:54 pm

David Moyes..... West Ham played decent football with the likes of Pacqetta, Bowen and Antonio, solid in midfield, and well organised and competititive.

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Re: Next manager

Post by gandhisflipflop » Wed May 22, 2024 3:56 pm

Marcelo Gallardo.

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Re: Next manager

Post by RVclaret » Wed May 22, 2024 3:56 pm

dandeclaret wrote:
Wed May 22, 2024 3:54 pm
David Moyes..... West Ham played decent football with the likes of Pacqetta, Bowen and Antonio, solid in midfield, and well organised and competititive.
Ask their fans if his football was ‘decent’. I think you’ll find that was the main reason they wanted him out. Complete opposite style to what’s been built here over the past few seasons.
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Re: Next manager

Post by ŽižkovClaret » Wed May 22, 2024 4:03 pm

dandeclaret wrote:
Wed May 22, 2024 3:54 pm
David Moyes..... West Ham played decent football with the likes of Pacqetta, Bowen and Antonio, solid in midfield, and well organised and competititive.
We're local to Moyes, so despite the league lower, we might still appeal

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Re: Next manager

Post by 123EasyasBFC » Wed May 22, 2024 4:05 pm

blatherwickstattoos wrote:
Wed May 22, 2024 3:43 pm
Mark robbins nailed on
Is that rumour being floated around

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Re: Next manager

Post by brexit » Wed May 22, 2024 4:08 pm

GetIntoEm wrote:
Wed May 22, 2024 3:45 pm
why does Will Still get mentioned? not for me, well down the list
I posted the reasons on the VK to bayern thread.
Allegedly, Belgian, plays the same system as VK and is available.
Passing conversation last week with a Reims fan.

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Re: Next manager

Post by brexit » Wed May 22, 2024 4:09 pm

ClaretOfMancunia wrote:
Wed May 22, 2024 3:15 pm
Haha, maybe that's exactly what he needs...
Cooper

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Re: Next manager

Post by AGENT_CLARET » Wed May 22, 2024 4:15 pm

Get Robins in from Coventry and he can bring with him Wright, Simms and O"Hare and Coventry fan's would really hate us then :lol:

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Re: Next manager

Post by NottsClaret » Wed May 22, 2024 4:18 pm

I don't have an opinion on Mark Robins really, but seems quite the break from a young, idealistic 'superstar' coach to a guy who is obviously competent but pretty much the quintessential football league journeyman boss.

Not saying it's a bad idea, just makes you wonder what the plan is, if there is one.
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Re: Next manager

Post by JR1882 » Wed May 22, 2024 4:20 pm

The advantage with Moyes is that he may feel like the prem/elite are moving away from him and that his best chance of a prem future is to get a team there and keep them there.

I think it’s unlikely Alan & co would consider him, not a fashionable enough name however given our increased necessity to go up this time around, the brief may be different this time.

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Re: Next manager

Post by 123EasyasBFC » Wed May 22, 2024 4:22 pm

NottsClaret wrote:
Wed May 22, 2024 4:18 pm
I don't have an opinion on Mark Robins really, but seems quite the break from a young, idealistic 'superstar' coach to a guy who is obviously competent but pretty much the quintessential football league journeyman boss.

Not saying it's a bad idea, just makes you wonder what the plan is, if there is one.
The plan is probably get a manager who isn’t going to ask for a brand new squad and will work on a small budget

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Re: Next manager

Post by kentonclaret » Wed May 22, 2024 4:23 pm

brexit wrote:
Wed May 22, 2024 4:08 pm
I posted the reasons on the VK to bayern thread.
Allegedly, Belgian, plays the same system as VK and is available.
Passing conversation last week with a Reims fan.
William Still is just 7/2 to be appointed the next Norwich City manager (Sky Bet).

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Re: Next manager

Post by Fretters » Wed May 22, 2024 4:40 pm

I'd love it to be Moyes. Imagine the superior PNE fans!

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Re: Next manager

Post by Vegas Claret » Wed May 22, 2024 5:08 pm

I'd love Cooper but apparently he turned Norwich down because he wants a PL job

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Re: Next manager

Post by Murger » Wed May 22, 2024 5:09 pm

I’d take Moyes or Cooper. The other makes mentioned don’t really get the juices flowing.

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Re: Next manager

Post by Claretnick » Wed May 22, 2024 5:11 pm

Murger wrote:
Wed May 22, 2024 5:09 pm
I’d take Moyes or Cooper. The other makes mentioned don’t really get the juices flowing.
I really hope Pace has approached David Moyes...

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Re: Next manager

Post by jedi_master » Wed May 22, 2024 5:13 pm

Moyes back in the North West at a club that stick with their managers…it might appeal to him more than we think after winning a European trophy at West Ham and still not really being accepted by the fans.

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Re: Next manager

Post by 123EasyasBFC » Wed May 22, 2024 5:15 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:
Wed May 22, 2024 5:08 pm
I'd love Cooper but apparently he turned Norwich down because he wants a PL job
Don’t see cooper getting a prem job

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Re: Next manager

Post by ArmchairDetective » Wed May 22, 2024 5:16 pm

If VK does leave it's going to take someone exciting to come in and keep this squad together. All signed under the impression they'll be playing for Kompany with very little ties to Burnley or England for that matter.

Robins has done a decent job. But would be a little underwhelming and represent a complete change in persona. Not a clue who to suggest that would fit the Kompany mould though.

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Re: Next manager

Post by Vegas Claret » Wed May 22, 2024 5:16 pm

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Wed May 22, 2024 5:15 pm
Don’t see cooper getting a prem job
neither do I tbh

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Re: Next manager

Post by warksclaret » Wed May 22, 2024 5:19 pm

ArmchairDetective wrote:
Wed May 22, 2024 5:16 pm
If VK does leave it's going to take someone exciting to come in and keep this squad together. All signed under the impression they'll be playing for Kompany with very little ties to Burnley or England for that matter.

Robins has done a decent job. But would be a little underwhelming and represent a complete change in persona. Not a clue who to suggest that would fit the Kompany mould though.
What makes you think the squad is "together" now. Number of stories of players wanting out

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Re: Next manager

Post by 123EasyasBFC » Wed May 22, 2024 5:22 pm

Alan Pace has probably asked kompany to pick someone to replace him

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Re: Next manager

Post by kentonclaret » Wed May 22, 2024 5:23 pm

I just viewed the betting odds for the last time we had a managerial change. Kompany was favourite followed by next in the betting Joey Barton and then Wayne Rooney. Quite frightening really.

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Re: Next manager

Post by helmclaret » Wed May 22, 2024 5:24 pm

Poch spotted at the Keirby with his advisors.

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Re: Next manager

Post by dandeclaret » Wed May 22, 2024 5:32 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Wed May 22, 2024 3:56 pm
Ask their fans if his football was ‘decent’. I think you’ll find that was the main reason they wanted him out. Complete opposite style to what’s been built here over the past few seasons.
I wouldn't ask a West Ham's fan view on anything to do with football style. They're idealists as well, rather than pragmatists.

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Re: Next manager

Post by helmclaret » Wed May 22, 2024 5:33 pm

I think I’d take Cooper over Moyes. Got more to prove.

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Re: Next manager

Post by ArmchairDetective » Wed May 22, 2024 5:38 pm

warksclaret wrote:
Wed May 22, 2024 5:19 pm
What makes you think the squad is "together" now. Number of stories of players wanting out
I meant together geographically not emotionally :lol:

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Re: Next manager

Post by agreenwood » Wed May 22, 2024 5:38 pm

Generally speaking I’d like us to appoint a manager who has us playing an attractive style, but there’s enough of a pragmatist in me to take Moyes if he could be persuaded.

We should be in a position to attract a decent calibre manager as things stand.

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Re: Next manager

Post by warksclaret » Wed May 22, 2024 5:45 pm

ArmchairDetective wrote:
Wed May 22, 2024 5:38 pm
I meant together geographically not emotionally :lol:
Fair comment-let you off :D
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