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Re: Next manager

Post by Spike » Sun Jun 16, 2024 10:45 am

Nixon mentions a bucket load of names with the hope that one occasionally may be right.
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Re: Next manager

Post by PremierLeagueClass » Sun Jun 16, 2024 10:47 am

willsclarets wrote:
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Rightly or wrongly, Southgate will walk into a top 6 club without a doubt.
I think he’ll struggle to get a Premier League job.

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Re: Next manager

Post by Pearcey » Sun Jun 16, 2024 10:52 am

Southgate has done a brilliant job with England. He’s made it a place where the players want to play again. He’s also brought back a lot of good feeling from the fans. Made a semi and a final but it’s just a shame he’s too cagey when we have some of the best attacking players in the world. Top bloke but just not sure how he’d get on back in club football.

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Re: Next manager

Post by Blyclaret » Sun Jun 16, 2024 10:55 am

Corberan moving up in betting. Joint fav with Parker on bet vic now

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Re: Next manager

Post by NL Claret » Sun Jun 16, 2024 11:10 am

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Re: Next manager

Post by louieollie » Sun Jun 16, 2024 11:17 am

I hope to christ no one is actually paying to get the scoops on the "chance my arm" drivel Nixon is spouting to the news hungry and somewhat desperate Burnley fans on this board 🫣
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Re: Next manager

Post by northeastclaret » Sun Jun 16, 2024 11:23 am

burnmark wrote:
Sun Jun 16, 2024 8:54 am
Don’t panic. His actual words are:

‘Experienced Steve Bruce has also had his name raised but is at the back of the field just now.’
I would think the links to Pardew and Bruce, as partly mentioned before, are probably because if we have consultants starting with a list of 100 potential managers before its whittled down to a long list presented to the club , it’s going to include them and possibly more names from the past.

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Re: Next manager

Post by Quickenthetempo » Sun Jun 16, 2024 11:25 am

Hopefully someone takes Nixons 'link in bio' keyboard off him.
More annoying than 'Crazy frog' on repeat.
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Re: Next manager

Post by Hedontplayforyou » Sun Jun 16, 2024 11:26 am

New man at the helm by the end of next week?
Exciting in a way but also a step in to the unknown perhaps .

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Re: Next manager

Post by NewClaret » Sun Jun 16, 2024 11:50 am

Hedontplayforyou wrote:
Sun Jun 16, 2024 11:26 am
New man at the helm by the end of next week?
Exciting in a way but also a step in to the unknown perhaps .
If they genuinely haven’t made a decision yet, I’d say we’re a couple of weeks away at least - contracts to negotiate/draft/sign, back room teams to approach & hire, etc.

I’m nervous to the point of not wanting a decision made in case it’s the wrong one!

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Re: Next manager

Post by Hedontplayforyou » Sun Jun 16, 2024 11:52 am

Agreed - once they’ve decided who the man is I’m sure they will begin to put their plans in place whilst the staff etc are sorted. Maybe we will hear the name of the successful candidate next week and the excitement or dread for some can kick in

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Re: Next manager

Post by Nonayforever » Sun Jun 16, 2024 12:11 pm

I put all the criteria that I thought A Pace was looking for in our next manager into a chat gpt question and it came up with Marco Rose, a German manager.

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Re: Next manager

Post by warksclaret » Sun Jun 16, 2024 12:22 pm

Will find the resulting "back room staff" almost as interesting. The great majority will want to bring their own men in, but several of the supposed favorites have been out of work for a while. Lampard seems to bring in ex Chelsea players like Jody Morris and Ashley Cole, maybe John Terry would join him. Pace seems quite a humble person and may feel pity on Bellamy and want to try and retain him, which may delay the process as he may be seen as a complicated person, whereas Jackson appears quite versatile and calm and could easily work with a new manager. Interesting, but an important factor in the selection of a manager, and of course retaining one or both coaches will ensure continuity, plus provide guidance to a new manager re the individual strength of our squad players

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Re: Next manager

Post by 123EasyasBFC » Sun Jun 16, 2024 12:24 pm

warksclaret wrote:
Sun Jun 16, 2024 12:22 pm
Will find the resulting "back room staff" almost as interesting. The great majority will want to bring their own men in, but several of the supposed favorites have been out of work for a while. Lampard seems to bring in ex Chelsea players like Jody Morris and Ashley Cole, maybe John Terry would join him. Pace seems quite a humble person and may feel pity on Bellamy and want to try and retain him, which may delay the process as he may be seen as a complicated person, whereas Jackson appears quite versatile and calm and could easily work with a new manager. Interesting, but an important factor in the selection of a manager, and of course retaining one or both coaches will ensure continuity, plus provide guidance to a new manager re the individual strength of our squad players
Lampard brought Paul clement in at Everton for that extra bit of experience

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Re: Next manager

Post by Claretitus » Sun Jun 16, 2024 12:31 pm

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Sun Jun 16, 2024 12:24 pm
[quote=warksclaret post_id=2354695 time=<a href="tel:1718536955">1718536955</a> user_id=1366]
Will find the resulting "back room staff" almost as interesting. The great majority will want to bring their own men in, but several of the supposed favorites have been out of work for a while. Lampard seems to bring in ex Chelsea players like Jody Morris and Ashley Cole, maybe John Terry would join him. Pace seems quite a humble person and may feel pity on Bellamy and want to try and retain him, which may delay the process as he may be seen as a complicated person, whereas Jackson appears quite versatile and calm and could easily work with a new manager. Interesting, but an important factor in the selection of a manager, and of course retaining one or both coaches will ensure continuity, plus provide guidance to a new manager re the individual strength of our squad players
Lampard brought Paul clement in at Everton for that extra bit of experience
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Clement highly regarded as a No 2, always went with Ancelloti previously, but failed as a manager. Was it QPR?

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Re: Next manager

Post by beddie » Sun Jun 16, 2024 12:39 pm

I do wonder If at the end of next week one Manager is identified as being the best from those interviewed Pace decides he doesn't really feel the vibe he’s looking for and goes with Bellamy & Jackson for now and we wait a further period until we find the right man. I’d prefer that if that's the case.

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Re: Next manager

Post by warksclaret » Sun Jun 16, 2024 12:42 pm

Claretitus wrote:
Sun Jun 16, 2024 12:31 pm
Lampard brought Paul clement in at Everton for that extra bit of experience
Clement highly regarded as a No 2, always went with Ancelloti previously, but failed as a manager. Was it QPR?
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Clement has a shocking record as a manager, particularly in the Championship with Derby , Swansea, Reading, but also at Club Bruges
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Re: Next manager

Post by ClaretTony » Sun Jun 16, 2024 1:12 pm

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Sun Jun 16, 2024 12:24 pm
Lampard brought Paul clement in at Everton for that extra bit of experience
Thank goodness for that - we will have someone to put the cones out. His dad was a good player as was his brother but he’s been a disaster when it comes to football management.

Good at doing laps of honour after beating us though.
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Re: Next manager

Post by 123EasyasBFC » Sun Jun 16, 2024 1:23 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Sun Jun 16, 2024 1:12 pm
Thank goodness for that - we will have someone to put the cones out. His dad was a good player as was his brother but he’s been a disaster when it comes to football management.

Good at doing laps of honour after beating us though.
What point are you trying to make? I just stated who Lampard hired at Everton

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Re: Next manager

Post by Pearcey » Sun Jun 16, 2024 1:27 pm

Paul Clement comes across as being a right arrogant berk. Wouldn’t want him anywhere near the club.
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Re: Next manager

Post by Blyclaret » Sun Jun 16, 2024 1:38 pm

I think the point being made was … all he’s good for it’s putting out cones …😂😂😂

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Re: Next manager

Post by bfcjg » Sun Jun 16, 2024 1:45 pm

Spike wrote:
Sun Jun 16, 2024 10:45 am
Nixon mentions a bucket load of names with the hope that one occasionally may be right.
I think you are spot on.

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Re: Next manager

Post by Silkyskills1 » Sun Jun 16, 2024 1:46 pm

beddie wrote:
Sun Jun 16, 2024 12:39 pm
I do wonder If at the end of next week one Manager is identified as being the best from those interviewed Pace decides he doesn't really feel the vibe he’s looking for and goes with Bellamy & Jackson for now and we wait a further period until we find the right man. I’d prefer that if that's the case.
I wouldn't. Wait how much longer? Do you think the 'right man' might be in hiding somewhere?

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Re: Next manager

Post by beddie » Sun Jun 16, 2024 1:51 pm

Silkyskills1 wrote:
Sun Jun 16, 2024 1:46 pm
I wouldn't. Wait how much longer? Do you think the 'right man' might be in hiding somewhere?
I understand your point, however, if none of the candidates come across to Pace as being the right man what should be do?

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Re: Next manager

Post by Gordaleman » Sun Jun 16, 2024 2:03 pm

beddie wrote:
Sun Jun 16, 2024 1:51 pm
I understand your point, however, if none of the candidates come across to Pace as being the right man what should be do?
Stop looking for a BIG name and appoint someone who can do the job.

He's had some stick on here, but I think Bellamy would be just fine.
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Re: Next manager

Post by Colburn_Claret » Sun Jun 16, 2024 2:05 pm

Pearcey wrote:
Sun Jun 16, 2024 10:52 am
Southgate has done a brilliant job with England. He’s made it a place where the players want to play again. He’s also brought back a lot of good feeling from the fans. Made a semi and a final but it’s just a shame he’s too cagey when we have some of the best attacking players in the world. Top bloke but just not sure how he’d get on back in club football.
He couldn't organise a **** up in a brewery.
We have one of the best squads in the world, but a crap team.
These youngsters get picked because of how they play for their clubs. So he picks them, then asks them to do something else. At times we look like strangers.
Individual talent, or a moment of magic, gets us through games, but even organised minnows find us wanting.

Playing Trips at left back, TAA in front of the back 4, playing kids in friendlies that are never going anywhere near the final squad, are all wasted opportunities.

By the way, with a proper manager we'd have beaten Italy, and Croatia.
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Re: Next manager

Post by ClaretTony » Sun Jun 16, 2024 2:09 pm

beddie wrote:
Sun Jun 16, 2024 1:51 pm
I understand your point, however, if none of the candidates come across to Pace as being the right man what should be do?
You should be fully aware who you would want before it happens. You have the right football people in place to have that information available. We look so ill prepared that we’ve been caught with our pants down.

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Re: Next manager

Post by Steddyman » Sun Jun 16, 2024 2:10 pm

Gordaleman wrote:
Sun Jun 16, 2024 2:03 pm
Stop looking for a BIG name and appoint someone who can do the job.

He's had some stick on here, but I think Bellamy would be just fine.
Based on what evidence?
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Re: Next manager

Post by ClaretTony » Sun Jun 16, 2024 2:10 pm

Gordaleman wrote:
Sun Jun 16, 2024 2:03 pm
Stop looking for a BIG name and appoint someone who can do the job.

He's had some stick on here, but I think Bellamy would be just fine.
I’d totally agree with the sentiment of this post but not the chosen name Bellamy has never managed and there is no evidence one way or the other that he can.
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Re: Next manager

Post by Goliath » Sun Jun 16, 2024 2:13 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Sun Jun 16, 2024 2:10 pm
I’d totally agree with the sentiment of this post but not the chosen name Bellamy has never managed and there is no evidence one way or the other that he can.
I'd suggest that there is quite a bit of evidence that he can't by looking at how his time at Cardiff ended. He should be ruled out just on that alone.

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Re: Next manager

Post by dannyonclarets » Sun Jun 16, 2024 2:14 pm

Gordaleman wrote:
Sun Jun 16, 2024 2:03 pm
Stop looking for a BIG name and appoint someone who can do the job.

He's had some stick on here, but I think Bellamy would be just fine.
"just fine" isn't good enough.

He has no management experience and we need to go back up.

You don't take a chance on somebody with so much at stake. You go with a proven BIG NAME manager.

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Re: Next manager

Post by kenyon6923 » Sun Jun 16, 2024 2:25 pm

Pearcey wrote:
Sun Jun 16, 2024 10:52 am
Southgate has done a brilliant job with England. He’s made it a place where the players want to play again. He’s also brought back a lot of good feeling from the fans. Made a semi and a final but it’s just a shame he’s too cagey when we have some of the best attacking players in the world. Top bloke but just not sure how he’d get on back in club football.
Southgate has done what every average manager has done, mainly beaten the teams you should beat, name me a top country we have beaten when it really mattered ?

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Re: Next manager

Post by I Don't Eat Worms » Sun Jun 16, 2024 2:29 pm

kenyon6923 wrote:
Sun Jun 16, 2024 2:25 pm
Southgate has done what every average manager has done, mainly beaten the teams you should beat, name me a top country we have beaten when it really mattered ?
Germany

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Re: Next manager

Post by dannyonclarets » Sun Jun 16, 2024 2:38 pm

kenyon6923 wrote:
Sun Jun 16, 2024 2:25 pm
Southgate has done what every average manager has done, mainly beaten the teams you should beat, name me a top country we have beaten when it really mattered ?
As mentioned - Germany. Your point is flawed.

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Re: Next manager

Post by Vegas Claret » Sun Jun 16, 2024 2:39 pm

I Don't Eat Worms wrote:
Sun Jun 16, 2024 2:29 pm
Germany
:lol: :lol: good username !

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Re: Next manager

Post by Pearcey » Sun Jun 16, 2024 2:45 pm

Italy, Belgium. Some people just don’t like him so they base their opinions around that, but there’s no doubt that he has improved us on and off the pitch. I would like him to move on after this tournament for someone who is prepared to use our attacking force better though.

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Re: Next manager

Post by kenyon6923 » Sun Jun 16, 2024 2:49 pm

dannyonclarets wrote:
Sun Jun 16, 2024 2:38 pm
As mentioned - Germany. Your point is flawed.
To reach a final we lost - I take it back top class

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Re: Next manager

Post by claretburns » Sun Jun 16, 2024 2:50 pm

warksclaret wrote:
Sun Jun 16, 2024 12:22 pm
Will find the resulting "back room staff" almost as interesting. The great majority will want to bring their own men in, but several of the supposed favorites have been out of work for a while. Lampard seems to bring in ex Chelsea players like Jody Morris and Ashley Cole, maybe John Terry would join him. Pace seems quite a humble person and may feel pity on Bellamy and want to try and retain him, which may delay the process as he may be seen as a complicated person, whereas Jackson appears quite versatile and calm and could easily work with a new manager. Interesting, but an important factor in the selection of a manager, and of course retaining one or both coaches will ensure continuity, plus provide guidance to a new manager re the individual strength of our squad players
If Lampard does come in and brings some of the ex Chelsea lot with him, namely Terry, then Bellamy will definitely be leaving the club.

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Re: Next manager

Post by golden days » Sun Jun 16, 2024 2:53 pm

Gordaleman wrote:
Sun Jun 16, 2024 2:03 pm
Stop looking for a BIG name and appoint someone who can do the job.

He's had some stick on here, but I think Bellamy would be just fine.
Sorry, but no he wouldnt
Lampard the best so far
Even parker would be better than Bellamy.... Now is not the time to experiment

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Re: Next manager

Post by ClaretTony » Sun Jun 16, 2024 2:56 pm

warksclaret wrote:
Sun Jun 16, 2024 12:22 pm
Will find the resulting "back room staff" almost as interesting. The great majority will want to bring their own men in, but several of the supposed favorites have been out of work for a while. Lampard seems to bring in ex Chelsea players like Jody Morris and Ashley Cole, maybe John Terry would join him. Pace seems quite a humble person and may feel pity on Bellamy and want to try and retain him, which may delay the process as he may be seen as a complicated person, whereas Jackson appears quite versatile and calm and could easily work with a new manager. Interesting, but an important factor in the selection of a manager, and of course retaining one or both coaches will ensure continuity, plus provide guidance to a new manager re the individual strength of our squad players
Lampard had Joe Edwards, Paul Clement, Ashley Cole and Chris Jones with him at Everton.

Pace quite a humble person - that’s an interesting thought.

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Re: Next manager

Post by dannyonclarets » Sun Jun 16, 2024 2:56 pm

Pearcey wrote:
Sun Jun 16, 2024 2:45 pm
Italy, Belgium. Some people just don’t like him so they base their opinions around that, but there’s no doubt that he has improved us on and off the pitch. I would like him to move on after this tournament for someone who is prepared to use our attacking force better though.
He might be forced into playing more attacking football with our defence weakened.

We have the best midfield/attack in over 40 years, so makes sense to use this to our advantage. Make sure the defence get it into midfield as quickly as possible.
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Re: Next manager

Post by warksclaret » Sun Jun 16, 2024 3:00 pm

Managing the Burnley team this coming season,with the expectation of taking them straight back into the PL, is one hell of a pressure job.I don't therefore see why people are putting Bellamy's name in the frame, when he has never managed, but more significantly he has had serious personal problems during the past few years, and I believe has been allowed to work just 3 days a week.It would be very irresponsible to give him the job full time-maybe the new manager would consider him as his coach which could prove beneficial to all parties

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Re: Next manager

Post by golden days » Sun Jun 16, 2024 3:01 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Sun Jun 16, 2024 2:56 pm
Lampard had Joe Edwards, Paul Clement, Ashley Cole and Chris Jones with him at Everton.

Pace quite a humble person - that’s an interesting thought.
Met him a few times and found him to be a very humble person, but I just want him to pick the right man, if that means binning Bellamy off, so be it.

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Re: Next manager

Post by Gordaleman » Sun Jun 16, 2024 3:10 pm

Steddyman wrote:
Sun Jun 16, 2024 2:10 pm
Based on what evidence?
I was responding to the question "What happens if Pace doesn't find the right man." I hope he does but if he doesn't, then Bellamy knows the players, who to keep and who to get rid of. He also knows the system we played last time in the Championship. Any new manager will want to put his own stamp on things. Can we afford to spend half a season learning a new one? I think not.

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Re: Next manager

Post by Steddyman » Sun Jun 16, 2024 3:10 pm

I've come around to the idea of Lampard now. Appoint him please Alan.

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Re: Next manager

Post by ClaretTony » Sun Jun 16, 2024 3:16 pm

Gordaleman wrote:
Sun Jun 16, 2024 3:10 pm
I was responding to the question "What happens if Pace doesn't find the right man." I hope he does but if he doesn't, then Bellamy knows the players, who to keep and who to get rid of. He also knows the system we played last time in the Championship. Any new manager will want to put his own stamp on things. Can we afford to spend half a season learning a new one? I think not.
You mean a bit like when we replaced Bond with his assistant Benson. That worked well.

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Re: Next manager

Post by kentonclaret » Sun Jun 16, 2024 3:17 pm

Steddyman wrote:
Sun Jun 16, 2024 3:10 pm
I've come around to the idea of Lampard now. Appoint him please Alan.
The prospects of Lamps joining Burnley appear to have dimmed over the past 48 hours.
According to Oddschecker now generally 10/1 or bigger with most bookmakers having been an odds on favourite only a few days ago.

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Re: Next manager

Post by Gordaleman » Sun Jun 16, 2024 3:19 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Sun Jun 16, 2024 3:16 pm
You mean a bit like when we replaced Bond with his assistant Benson. That worked well.
That's a ridiculous argument Tony. They are totally different people.

As for Bond and Benson. That was a totally stupid appointment in the first place.

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Re: Next manager

Post by NL Claret » Sun Jun 16, 2024 3:21 pm

Gordaleman wrote:
Sun Jun 16, 2024 3:19 pm
That's a ridiculous argument Tony. They are totally different people.

As for Bond and Benson. That was a totally stupid appointment in the first place.
Mullen replacing Casper!!

I’m glad Middlemass never replaced Mullen.

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Re: Next manager

Post by clarets1978 » Sun Jun 16, 2024 3:27 pm

beddie wrote:
Sun Jun 16, 2024 12:39 pm
I do wonder If at the end of next week one Manager is identified as being the best from those interviewed Pace decides he doesn't really feel the vibe he’s looking for and goes with Bellamy & Jackson for now and we wait a further period until we find the right man. I’d prefer that if that's the case.
I think if they do that it'd be a bit ridiculous. Lose our manager at the end of May and end up starting the season with a caretaker duo in August. Would be beyond a shambles that to start such an important season for us. Whoever is manager for the first game of the season will be the permanent appointment. Has to be.

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