ARTICLE: Parker pens deal with the Clarets

[Hbclaret007]

All these people saying he’s not their choice. Who did they think we were really going to get?
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Exactly.
Some 'fans' wouldn't be happy with Pep.
This board is becoming toxic, unfortunately.

[Mattster]

I think it's a terrible appointment and it's only going to end in tears, sooner rather than later. But that's the last I'll say of it, and I hope to be proven wrong.

From here on I'll get behind him and the team.

[Blyclaret]

Right mattster your entitled to your opinion. So who would be your choice then

[Mattster]

Right mattster your entitled to your opinion. So who would be your choice then

Feel free to go back through my recent post history...

But that's the last I'll say of it, and I hope to be proven wrong.

From here on I'll get behind him and the team.

[burnley007]

Are we still anticipating a Director of Football?

I'm a bit confused about the current set up.
Is Bellamy assistant head coach?

[Blyclaret]

Mattster and burnley007 … chat amongst yourselves there ye seem to have a lot in common.

[watsonsclarets]

Good Luck to Scott Parker managing our great club hope he does the business and becomes a legend at the club. Time for us fans to back him and get behind the whole team.

[Colburn_Claret]

Strange appointment, I don't think he'll need the reason explaining to him.
That said we all want him to succeed, and he deserves our full backing whatever the reservations. All any of us want is success. If SP can deliver that he'll be a hero.

God luck Scott

[Hedontplayforyou]

Could Hjolmund come in as DoF?

[ClaretTony]

Are we still anticipating a Director of Football?

I'm a bit confused about the current set up.
Is Bellamy assistant head coach?

We now have a head coach, not a manager, but we don't have a technical director or whatever name you want to give him above that which is really strange. I think we are all now confused.

Bellamy was the assistant manager when Kompany was here and then became the acting head coach when Kompany went with Jackson becoming assistant acting head coach. There has been no indication that either of them will be leaving, certainly not Bellamy given Parker's comments in the interview, but no indication what their roles are as yet. Then there is Jensen who was appointed as our first team assistant coach just two weeks ago today.

[ClaretTony]

Could Hjolmund come in as DoF?

Hjulmand is the Danish manager whose name suddenly appeared in the betting eight days ago. He became favourite for a short time and then disappeared again just as quickly. I don't think there is anything to suggest he'll be coming in.

I've posted previously but Parker's tried and trusted coaches, who have been with him at all three of his clubs as a manager, are Matt Wells and Rob Burch but they are now part of Postecoglu's staff at Spurs.

[RVclaret]

I think it's a terrible appointment and it's only going to end in tears, sooner rather than later. But that's the last I'll say of it, and I hope to be proven wrong.

From here on I'll get behind him and the team.

Let’s hope this one ends up in the same folder as the ‘why are we signing Nathan Tella, it makes no sense and offers nothing we don’t already have’ folder

[Mattster]

Let’s hope this one ends up in the same folder as the ‘why are we signing Nathan Tella, it makes no sense and offers nothing we don’t already have’ folder

Fingers crossed. I didn't hide from that (pretty sure it was me who brought it back up at the time) and won't hide from this one if I'm wrong either.

[ClaretTony]

Let’s hope this one ends up in the same folder as the ‘why are we signing Nathan Tella, it makes no sense and offers nothing we don’t already have’ folder

We've had it before, countless times.

Sean Dyche in 2012, there was a lot of negativity towards the appointment
Scott Arfield in 2013, one poster said that if that is the quality of player we are bringing in then we are going nowhere, that was after he'd played as a trialist at Morecambe.

We all have different thoughts of who we'd have liked to come in to replace Kompany but surely, like Dyche and like Arfield, we judge him on what he does for us going forward.

[ashtonlongsider]

I'm very pleased with this protracted appointment and Scott Parker will certainly get my full backing. He was always a very good midfielder, endorsed by the big clubs he's played for. He was industrious, hard working, courageous and always looked super fit. I hope he can bring these attributes to us. If he wants to know what we're all about, he'll not have to wait long. I think after the 31st August he'll have a very clear picture.

[warksclaret]

First time in weeks I woken up positive about having a manager now Scotty has joined, Can't see why genuine Burnley fans wouldn't want to get behind him, even if he was not their first choice.Imagine this forum if Southgate, Bruce, Pardew or the likes had been appointed. Onwards and upwards

[Jamesy]

Exactly.
Some 'fans' wouldn't be happy with Pep.
This board is becoming toxic, unfortunately.

Toxic? Slight exaggeration in my view.

[Mattster]

Funny, there's more posting about people being negative than there is people posting being negative.

And if I reply to any of the many posts about all the negativity, I'll get criticised for cluttering the thread with negativity.

[RVclaret]

Wonder if we can look forward to some creativity from kick offs like his Bournemouth team had

https://x.com/skyfootball/status/146687 ... 37251?s=46

[Dark Cloud]

Virtually everyone who has commented on this board has said Parker wasn't their first or preferred choice, but that now he's been appointed he'll get their full and unequivocal backing and be given every chance. Nothing toxic about that! Just being honest.

[warksclaret]

Virtually everyone who has commented on this board has said Parker wasn't their first or preferred choice, but that now he's been appointed he'll get their full and unequivocal backing and be given every chance. Nothing toxic about that! Just being honest.

Totally agree-however its the comments like "shall we run a sweepstake to see how long he will last", or" he won't last" that I find strange coming from fans instantly after news of Scotty's appointment. Maybe not quite toxic, but when I was working we had one or two people who came out with negativity the minute you got in-we called them mood hoovers.

[CoolClaret]

Initially I was pretty underwhelmed but I feel pretty good with the appointment -

I think Parker will have learnt some lessons from the exits of his prior two posts and most certainly will have a point to prove.

He was a player that absolutely maximised his natural talent/ability and give it his all on the pitch and ended up carving himself a long career at the top level of the game.

This is an important season in our history and we all need to be pulling together from the first game.

[CoolClaret]

Wonder if we can look forward to some creativity from kick offs like his Bournemouth team had

https://x.com/skyfootball/status/146687 ... 37251?s=46

Just gave me a flashback to some of our extravagant set piece routines under Cotterill!

[Clive 1960]

If Scott wasn't first choice and now as the job that's not he's fault but let's get behind him . Best of luck Scott . UTC..

[MrTopTier]

Good stuff. Welcome Scott Parker. I wish you every success.

[daveisaclaret]

Parker's record is basically taking teams that are too good not to get promoted to promotion. It's underwhelming but if he continues it it's fine. It would be nice to get 100 points again but it's too much to ask of any manager.

After having endured last season it would be nice to have a manager who isn't very clearly unsuited to managing in the Premier League but for whatever reason Pace isn't worried about it. I suppose we can cross that bridge when we come to it.

[ClaretTony]

Totally agree-however its the comments like "shall we run a sweepstake to see how long he will last", or" he won't last" that I find strange coming from fans instantly after news of Scotty's appointment. Maybe not quite toxic, but when I was working we had one or two people who came out with negativity the minute you got in-we called them mood hoovers.

If you think it’s bad on here, comments on Twitter in particular have been shocking. One supposed supporter hoping we will lose every game to get rid of him quicker.

Not being someone’s first choice is fine. All that matters now is getting behind him and the team come August.

[quoonbeatz]

Anyone who's read this board and it's previous incarnation will know I'll always be as positive as possible partly when it comes to Burnley FC. I'm not about this appointment because he's not a guy I'd want anywhere near my club, let alone as manager. That's a personal opinion going back 20 years though so I wouldn't expect others to pay it attention.

I haven't seen much of his previous two teams in this league but it's telling that despite getting them both promoted there are less fans of those two clubs with good things to say about him than bad.

He's going to need a good start because almost everyone's posts about him are starting with "he wasn’t my first choice..." which isn't a great way to begin, given he clearly wasn't the board's first choice either. It's a poor choice, I think, as there is better out there and we're at the peak of being attractive right now. If things don't work out it'll be even harder to attract a better manager, the further away we get from being just out of the PL.

We had better win promotion playing sparkling football as that's the bar. He's got out of this division twice before so there's no excuses. Let's hope we get that.

[ecc]

Strange appointment, I don't think he'll need the reason explaining to him.
That said we all want him to succeed, and he deserves our full backing whatever the reservations. All any of us want is success. If SP can deliver that he'll be a hero.

God luck Scott

I certainly want him to succeed but I'm not sure we all do. Which is pretty pathetic.

[NickBFC]

Parker's record is basically taking teams that are too good not to get promoted to promotion.

Plenty of managers have failed to get promoted when fully expected to over the years.

[Poulton-le-Claret]

I don't know why people on this board are listening to Fulham and Bournemouth fans slagging him off. It is the nature of some football fans.

You'll find Burnley fans on here slagging Dyche and VK off, it doesn't mean they are bad managers or that those voices are a reflection of the whole fan base.

[RVclaret]

An alternative Bournemouth fan view on X

‘Perfect appointment for Burnley imo. His way of playing isn’t too dissimilar to Kompany in terms of build up in 1st and 2nd phase. Won’t need huge squad turnover. It’s controlled football, you’ll be secure most games. Yes it’s not rock and roll but it’s sustainable. Promoted ‘

[kentonclaret]

An alternative Bournemouth fan view on X

‘Perfect appointment for Burnley imo. His way of playing isn’t too dissimilar to Kompany in terms of build up in 1st and 2nd phase. Won’t need huge squad turnover. It’s controlled football, you’ll be secure most games. Yes it’s not rock and roll but it’s sustainable. Promoted ‘

When Bournemouth finished runners up in the Championship behind Fulham they were the second highest scoring team having conceded the fewest number of goals.
Sounds pretty near rock and roll to me.

[wilks_bfc]

There’s some very odd thoughts and comments on this about not wanting him near the club.
As pointed out, people said similar to when Dyche was appointed or even when we signed signed players such as Joey, but they didn’t turn out too badly did they.

I’ve got to admit, when names such as Parker & Lampard were first mentioned I want too enthusiastic about them but now he’s in he’ll have my backing.

[kentonclaret]

There’s some very odd thoughts and comments on this about not wanting him near the club.
As pointed out, people said similar to when Dyche was appointed or even when we signed signed players such as Joey, but they didn’t turn out too badly did they.

I’ve got to admit, when names such as Parker & Lampard were first mentioned I want too enthusiastic about them but now he’s in he’ll have my backing.

To be a “Mr Negativity” on this forum it is imperative to stick to sweeping generalisations, nothing specific that you could be challenged on. “Oh, it’s just a personal thing” is typical.
Then you must set the new guy up for failure, set the bar really high so that, even if he succeeds, you can claim that was the minimum expected and can continue with the negative postings. But, should he fail then you can really stick the boot in.

[quoonbeatz]

Can tell you haven't been on here long if you think I'm Mr Negativity

[ClaretTony]

Can tell you haven't been on here long if you think I'm Mr Negativity

Usually the opposite aren't you quoon?

[BurnleyFC]

Wonder if we can look forward to some creativity from kick offs like his Bournemouth team had

https://x.com/skyfootball/status/146687 ... 37251?s=46

That certainly looked like our defending from last season.

[ClaretPete001]

I have no doubt he will be a complete disaster because I think it is a really solid appointment.

Looking at the squad we have and what little I know of Parker's approach I think it looks a decent fit.

I can't think of anyone whose CV so closely matches the requirements of the job.

So, fair is fair well done the board regardless of the outcome they have made the right decision based upon what anyone could know...!

The next job is to maintain the squad particularly those 3 midfield players.

[quoonbeatz]

Usually the opposite aren't you quoon?

Yeah very much so. Let's hope he's up to the job and we'll all be happy. Can't see him being one for the long term either way but then nobody is going to be anymore, we're one of those clubs now!

[helmclaret]

So go on, what happened 20 years ago?

[ClaretTony]

Yeah very much so. Let's hope he's up to the job and we'll all be happy. Can't see him being one for the long term either way but then nobody is going to be anymore, we're one of those clubs now!

Totally agree, I don't think we'll have someone in again as long as Dyche or Ternent. We are just another club in that respect now that won't hesitate to swap and change. I'm pleased it's someone who knows English football though, I was really concerned at some of the other names being mentioned who had never worked in this country.

[helmclaret]

How can you say that? Kompany walked away.

[quoonbeatz]

Because if a manager does well with a club at our level, they'll be poached, and if they fail with us they'll get fired. We're not going to see another dyche-style time in charge by anyone.

[kentonclaret]

Can tell you haven't been on here long if you think I'm Mr Negativity

Hi quoonbeatz

Perhaps I was too hasty in judging you as being negative but certain aspects of your post gave me that impression. You claim that more Bournemouth fans have negative things to say about Parker than positive. How many Bournemouth fans have you spoken to and do you feel those comments are justified based on performances?
Parker managed Bournemouth for a full season in the Championship 2021/22, finishing 2 points behind Champions Fulham and were the second highest scoring team conceding the fewest goals. Automatic promotion back to the PL wouldn’t normally result in fans turning on their manager.
More likely any negative reactions are due to just 4 games back in the PL culminating in a 9-0 defeat to Liverpool. On that basis perhaps we should have sacked Kompany following the heavy defeat to Manchester City and ignored what had gone before?

[quoonbeatz]

Hi quoonbeatz

Perhaps I was too hasty in judging you as being negative but certain aspects of your post gave me that impression. You claim that more Bournemouth fans have negative things to say about Parker than positive. How many Bournemouth fans have you spoken to and do you feel those comments are justified based on performances?
Parker managed Bournemouth for a full season in the Championship 2021/22, finishing 2 points behind Champions Fulham and were the second highest scoring team conceding the fewest goals. Automatic promotion back to the PL wouldn’t normally result in fans turning on their manager.
More likely any negative reactions are due to just 4 games back in the PL culminating in a 9-0 defeat to Liverpool. On that basis perhaps we should have sacked Kompany following the heavy defeat to Manchester City and ignored what had gone before?

I haven't spoken to any Bournemouth fans, nor Fulham fans, but their opinions are all over social media and the comments on articles about us appointing him. I've seen way more negative than positive and I'd say those are probably justified as they've watched his teams (just as the positive opinions are justified).

I think the Bournemouth negativity is more to do with him saying the squad he had was crap, then the coach taking over and keeping them up no worries.

He's got two team promoted that should have got promoted, albeit one of which he scraped them up. No promotion is easy so they are decent achievements but that is why there is a high bar set for success here. He should end up with one of the best squads in the division and having done it twice before, promotion is the minimum requirement.

Let's hope he's got what it takes.

[Superjohnnyfrancis]

If he’s any good he can really kick on here after a few misfires at his previous clubs.

Loads of good players at this level and lots of squad to trim out to bring his own players in.

Can easily raise £30-40m if he wheels and deals sensibly.

[It Is What It Is]

What's the latest on Jacko and Bells ...any ideas???

[Mattster]

To be a “Mr Negativity” on this forum it is imperative to stick to sweeping generalisations, nothing specific that you could be challenged on. “Oh, it’s just a personal thing” is typical.
Then you must set the new guy up for failure, set the bar really high so that, even if he succeeds, you can claim that was the minimum expected and can continue with the negative postings. But, should he fail then you can really stick the boot in.

Good to know that's not me then.

[JohnMcGreal]

Anyone who's read this board and it's previous incarnation will know I'll always be as positive as possible partly when it comes to Burnley FC. I'm not about this appointment because he's not a guy I'd want anywhere near my club, let alone as manager. That's a personal opinion going back 20 years though so I wouldn't expect others to pay it attention.

What is it about him that's given you such a negative view on him for such a long time?

I always found to him to be very 'meh' as a player and can't say I know much about him as a manager. I find it difficult to have an opinion on him at all so I'm just genuinely curious as to why you've disliked him for so long