RVN - why??

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RVN - why??

Post by burnley007 » Fri Jul 12, 2024 8:42 am

Ruud has been confirmed at Utd.
He's just another coach.
Why? Why turn down a manager's job to be a nobody?? Bizarre decision.

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Re: RVN - why??

Post by TopCat » Fri Jul 12, 2024 8:44 am

His loss.

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Re: RVN - why??

Post by Burnley1989 » Fri Jul 12, 2024 8:44 am

burnley007 wrote:
Fri Jul 12, 2024 8:42 am
Ruud has been confirmed at Utd.
He's just another coach.
Why? Why turn down a manager's job to be a nobody?? Bizarre decision.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/ar ... 47djzzeezo
A nobody :lol:

One of the world's greatest ever strikers, coaching at one of the world's biggest clubs.
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Re: RVN - why??

Post by Clive 1960 » Fri Jul 12, 2024 8:46 am

money and ambition to be the next utd manager but you think why not give it a go at Burnley and if he did well he might still get the chance at utd or another club but it's all about timing...

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Re: RVN - why??

Post by beddie » Fri Jul 12, 2024 8:48 am

Bottler.

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Re: RVN - why??

Post by NewClaret » Fri Jul 12, 2024 8:49 am

FWIW I heard we turned him down at second interview stage.

I was told he wanted far too much control of budget, signings, coaching staff and we wanted to do things differently.

Real shame in my view as I’d have loved RVN here. A risk but one I would have taken.

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Re: RVN - why??

Post by eastcoastclaret » Fri Jul 12, 2024 8:49 am

Was he actually ever offered the Burnley job though?

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Re: RVN - why??

Post by ClaretTony » Fri Jul 12, 2024 8:51 am

There is no evidence that he did turn us down
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Re: RVN - why??

Post by randomclaret2 » Fri Jul 12, 2024 8:56 am

NewClaret wrote:
Fri Jul 12, 2024 8:49 am
FWIW I heard we turned him down at second interview stage.

I was told he wanted far too much control of budget, signings, coaching staff and we wanted to do things differently.

Real shame in my view as I’d have loved RVN here. A risk but one I would have taken.
They seemed happy for VK to do all that

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Re: RVN - why??

Post by Bosscat » Fri Jul 12, 2024 8:59 am

randomclaret2 wrote:
Fri Jul 12, 2024 8:56 am
They seemed happy for VK to do all that
Maybe thats why ... gave VK too much 🤔 once bitten twice shy and all that
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Re: RVN - why??

Post by NewClaret » Fri Jul 12, 2024 8:59 am

randomclaret2 wrote:
Fri Jul 12, 2024 8:56 am
They seemed happy for VK to do all that
Well I don’t personally think he had the control people think, but they very definitely have taken a different direction now.

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Re: RVN - why??

Post by martin_p » Fri Jul 12, 2024 8:59 am

randomclaret2 wrote:
Fri Jul 12, 2024 8:56 am
They seemed happy for VK to do all that
And the result was last season. Once bitten…….
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Re: RVN - why??

Post by Poulton-le-Claret » Fri Jul 12, 2024 9:04 am

Waiting for those dead man's shoes.

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Re: RVN - why??

Post by randomclaret2 » Fri Jul 12, 2024 9:11 am

Indeed...lets hope the new approach works, or do they revert to the Kompany model for the next man

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Re: RVN - why??

Post by Boss Hogg » Fri Jul 12, 2024 9:18 am

It’s just lazy journalism saying he turned us down. He probably wasn’t aligned with what the board wanted as mentioned above.

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Re: RVN - why??

Post by bfcjg » Fri Jul 12, 2024 9:25 am

Nearly every one of the applicants we rejected have said they turned us down, it maintains their brand.

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Re: RVN - why??

Post by warksclaret » Fri Jul 12, 2024 9:27 am

And its probable that RVN is now accountable on a day to day basis to Steve McClaren who has been made "senior coach". How inspiring for him

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Re: RVN - why??

Post by TheFamilyCat » Fri Jul 12, 2024 9:27 am

ClaretTony wrote:
Fri Jul 12, 2024 8:51 am
There is no evidence that he did turn us down
There's no evidence for a lot of claims made on this board.

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Re: RVN - why??

Post by bfcjg » Fri Jul 12, 2024 9:39 am

Can you imagine if we'd have signed him ? It would be the Kompany circus again,camera crews following the ex Man U idol,all about him etc, Parker though is quite refreshing head down and working,little outside noise and distraction.
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Re: RVN - why??

Post by Casper2 » Fri Jul 12, 2024 9:45 am

ClaretTony wrote:
Fri Jul 12, 2024 8:51 am
There is no evidence that he did turn us down
Is there evidence we offered him the job

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Re: RVN - why??

Post by ClaretTony » Fri Jul 12, 2024 9:47 am

Casper2 wrote:
Fri Jul 12, 2024 9:45 am
Is there evidence we offered him the job
None at all

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Re: RVN - why??

Post by Lip » Fri Jul 12, 2024 9:50 am

Burnley1989 wrote:
Fri Jul 12, 2024 8:44 am
A nobody :lol:

One of the world's greatest ever strikers, coaching at one of the world's biggest clubs.
And most hated. 🙂

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Re: RVN - why??

Post by agreenwood » Fri Jul 12, 2024 9:51 am

No doubt his agent peddled the idea that he turned us and other clubs down in favour of Man U. Makes him look good in the eyes of United fans and shows the world that there was lots of interest in him.

In reality United was possibly the only offer he’s had all summer.

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Re: RVN - why??

Post by aggi » Fri Jul 12, 2024 10:37 am

Out of the names we were linked with I could never really fathom why people were so excited by RVN. He had one OK season at PSV, fell out with the owners and players and quit.

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Re: RVN - why??

Post by chekhov » Fri Jul 12, 2024 10:47 am

warksclaret wrote:
Fri Jul 12, 2024 9:27 am
And its probable that RVN is now accountable on a day to day basis to Steve McClaren who has been made "senior coach". How inspiring for him
Don’t you knock McClaren. He knows more about carpets than you ever will.

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Re: RVN - why??

Post by ŽižkovClaret » Fri Jul 12, 2024 10:49 am

burnley007 wrote:
Fri Jul 12, 2024 8:42 am
Ruud has been confirmed at Utd.
He's just another coach.
Why? Why turn down a manager's job to be a nobody?? Bizarre decision.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/ar ... 47djzzeezo
We would have been hiking boots, he's gone for loafers

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Re: RVN - why??

Post by beddie » Fri Jul 12, 2024 12:18 pm

aggi wrote:
Fri Jul 12, 2024 10:37 am
Out of the names we were linked with I could never really fathom why people were so excited by RVN. He had one OK season at PSV, fell out with the owners and players and quit.
Martin Keown doesn’t have a lot of time for him either. ;)

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Re: RVN - why??

Post by warksclaret » Fri Jul 12, 2024 12:22 pm

chekhov wrote:
Fri Jul 12, 2024 10:47 am
Don’t you knock McClaren. He knows more about carpets than you ever will.
.......and brollies

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Re: RVN - why??

Post by claretburns » Fri Jul 12, 2024 12:24 pm

Nistelrooy will be in charge of United by Christmas.

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Re: RVN - why??

Post by ecc » Fri Jul 12, 2024 12:28 pm

warksclaret wrote:
Fri Jul 12, 2024 9:27 am
And its probable that RVN is now accountable on a day to day basis to Steve McClaren who has been made "senior coach". How inspiring for him
McClaren's agent is the best in the business.

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Re: RVN - why??

Post by Venkys4eva » Fri Jul 12, 2024 12:52 pm

How do you know he was offered the job? Perhaps we turned him down.

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Re: RVN - why??

Post by bart_claret » Fri Jul 12, 2024 1:31 pm

He obviously wasn't the most beautiful girl in town material.

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Re: RVN - why??

Post by blatherwickstattoos » Fri Jul 12, 2024 1:42 pm

I don’t think he’d have turned us down. More likely we didn’t go with him

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Re: RVN - why??

Post by Benson » Fri Jul 12, 2024 3:32 pm

blatherwickstattoos wrote:
Fri Jul 12, 2024 1:42 pm
I don’t think he’d have turned us down. More likely we didn’t go with him
Seeing you say that convinces me that he did actually turn us down.

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Re: RVN - why??

Post by aclaretinstevenage » Fri Jul 12, 2024 3:38 pm

Maybe he's more comfortable in a supporting role rather than being the top man while still earning plenty!

Or perhaps he failed at the interview with Mr Pace...........if any such thing ever took place!

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Re: RVN - why??

Post by dougcollins » Fri Jul 12, 2024 3:43 pm

Probably bring paid more to put cones out.

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Re: RVN - why??

Post by blatherwickstattoos » Fri Jul 12, 2024 3:48 pm

Benson wrote:
Fri Jul 12, 2024 3:32 pm
Seeing you say that convinces me that he did actually turn us down.
Just can’t see him turning us down to coach a team.

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