Straight back up for Burnley, without any doubts.

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Re: Straight back up for Burnley, without any doubts.

Post by fidelcastro » Sat Jul 20, 2024 11:20 pm

Wile E Coyote wrote:
Sat Jul 20, 2024 5:30 pm
Probably one of those seasons when we will be able to enjoy the matches knowing promotion is guaranteed.
Scot Parker appears to be very relaxed, I just get that impression this will be a strong season for the club.
Preferable to the dark days last season in the Premier league.
Might even set a record for points this time .
No doubts about it in my mind.
Arrogance beyond belief.

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Re: Straight back up for Burnley, without any doubts.

Post by Bin Ont Turf » Sat Jul 20, 2024 11:23 pm

Always start a season as a Burnley fan with pessimism (but don't shove it onto others).

The only way is up.

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Post by Ric_C » Sat Jul 20, 2024 11:27 pm

My mate who is a Boro fan hates Wilder with a passion

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Post by Wile E Coyote » Sat Jul 20, 2024 11:28 pm

fidelcastro wrote:
Sat Jul 20, 2024 11:20 pm
Arrogance beyond belief.
you need a new dictionary if you think my post can in any shape or form be deemed as arrogant.
There are courses you can attend to prove this.

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Post by blatherwickstattoos » Sat Jul 20, 2024 11:31 pm

Won’t be as straight forward as some are making out.

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Post by fidelcastro » Sat Jul 20, 2024 11:33 pm

Wile E Coyote wrote:
Sat Jul 20, 2024 11:28 pm
you need a new dictionary if you think my post can in any shape or form be deemed as arrogant.
There are courses you can attend to prove this.
You really are the resident loon on here.

Stating that promotion is guaranteed is basically the definition of arrogant.

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Post by Clive 1960 » Sat Jul 20, 2024 11:48 pm

I'm hoping at the very least we will be in the top 6 but it depends on who stays..

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Post by Wile E Coyote » Sat Jul 20, 2024 11:48 pm

I rarely post thesedays, I did tonight, and find there is a problem with a few on here that just seek confrontation and seem drawn to rudeness. Everyone else took it for a lighthearted , optimistic post, but you and a few others are unable to take things in that manner, and have to include your mundane criticisms, I genuinely pity you and your frosty outlook. please seek help.You actually bore me to tears.
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Post by fidelcastro » Sat Jul 20, 2024 11:50 pm

Wile E Coyote wrote:
Sat Jul 20, 2024 11:48 pm
I rarely post thesedays, I did tonight, and find there is a problem with a few on here that just seek confrontation and seem drawn to rudeness. Everyone else took it for a lighthearted , optimistic post, but you and a few others are unable to take things in that manner, and have to include your mundane criticisms, I genuinely pity you and your frosty outlook. please seek help.You actually bore me to tears.
:lol:

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Post by Wokingclaret » Sun Jul 21, 2024 12:01 am

We need to get the squad number down asap.

Not sell to many of the prised assets

Then the remaining players have to buy in to parker plans:

Only then will I think promotion is on

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Re: Straight back up for Burnley, without any doubts.

Post by dsr » Sun Jul 21, 2024 12:08 am

Wile E Coyote wrote:
Sat Jul 20, 2024 11:28 pm
you need a new dictionary if you think my post can in any shape or form be deemed as arrogant.
There are courses you can attend to prove this.
Meriem Webster defines arrogance as this: "an attitude of superiority manifested in presumptuous claims or assumptions".

If you wish to claim that your post does not show at attitude of superiority or make presumptuous claims, that's fine, but others will disagree.

Please could you point me in the direction of the courses I could attend to prove this (whatever this may be)? ;)

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Post by Wile E Coyote » Sun Jul 21, 2024 1:00 am

by others, I assume you mean the bovine herd of halfwits that enjoy being illiterate ?
anyway, its a course called basic English for the terminally retarded , it starts at 7-30 at Burnley college. there is a crayon drawn map to poke the dunces in the right direction, give me a call if you're struggling.

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Post by dsr » Sun Jul 21, 2024 1:41 am

Wile E Coyote wrote:
Sat Jul 20, 2024 11:48 pm
I find there is a problem with a few on here that just seek confrontation and seem drawn to rudeness.
Wile E Coyote wrote:
Sun Jul 21, 2024 1:00 am
by others, I assume you mean the bovine herd of halfwits that enjoy being illiterate ?
anyway, its a course called basic English for the terminally retarded , it starts at 7-30 at Burnley college. there is a crayon drawn map to poke the dunces in the right direction, give me a call if you're struggling.
Does it ever occur to you that you may be part of the problem? :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Post by Vegas Claret » Sun Jul 21, 2024 2:07 am

whatever happens there is zero excuse for us not to be incredibly strong in the Championship. We have an unbelievable squad at this level imho
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Post by AGENT_CLARET » Sun Jul 21, 2024 6:19 am

ClaretsPadiham wrote:
Sat Jul 20, 2024 5:48 pm
Bloody hell not bad signings them epically O Hare. Not been keeping up with transfers so didn’t realise. I know the club is in a mess.
O Hare hasn't done anything at all since coming back from his two massive injuries, rumours going around that Hamer is off and that weakens them

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Post by jrgbfc » Sun Jul 21, 2024 7:32 am

We definitely need to start shipping a few out. Hard to keep everybody happy and have any kind of team spirit with such a bloated squad.

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Re: Straight back up for Burnley, without any doubts.

Post by ClaretTony » Sun Jul 21, 2024 7:49 am

Vegas Claret wrote:
Sat Jul 20, 2024 11:04 pm
so fell out with the owners at Sheff Utd, he fell out with Gibson at Boro, fell out with the owners at Watford - all 3 times complaining and it was everyone else's fault. I'm very pleased we didn't go for him
Wasn’t aware he’d fallen out with Gibson or anyone at Watford.

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Post by taio » Sun Jul 21, 2024 7:51 am

AGENT_CLARET wrote:
Sun Jul 21, 2024 6:19 am
O Hare hasn't done anything at all since coming back from his two massive injuries, rumours going around that Hamer is off and that weakens them
It'll have been a challenge for O'Hare coming back from serious injury but he did very well last season on his return. An excellent signing by them.

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Post by Hipper » Sun Jul 21, 2024 7:56 am

I have doubts similar to some others.

We don't know who will be in the squad.
We don't know if last season's failures will succeed in The Championship. I don't think it's a 'given' that they will.
It can't it be compared to VKs Championship season. We had a complete reset and we were all surprised and pleased with the new style from the first match. That can't be the case this season - we seem to expect it. In any case VK's early results weren't brilliant but that turned out to be both teething troubles and small adjustments as everyone, VK included, learned realities.
Finally, any manager can talk the talk. We don't have an easy start so I'm just going to wait and see.

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Post by RVclaret » Sun Jul 21, 2024 8:07 am

Vegas Claret wrote:
Sun Jul 21, 2024 2:07 am
whatever happens there is zero excuse for us not to be incredibly strong in the Championship. We have an unbelievable squad at this level imho
What if the club sell all/most of our best players? Would it still be be an unbelievable squad at this level then?

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Post by ClaretPete001 » Sun Jul 21, 2024 8:52 am

RVclaret wrote:
Sun Jul 21, 2024 8:07 am
What if the club sell all/most of our best players? Would it still be be an unbelievable squad at this level then?
Indeed, the picture is unclear at the moment.

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Post by claretskeith » Sun Jul 21, 2024 8:56 am

bobinho wrote:
Sat Jul 20, 2024 7:46 pm
I’d settle right now for top six, snap your hand off in fact. I think top ten would also be a good result for SP’s first season.
Got to be on a wind-up. Nobody is that negative.

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Post by claretskeith » Sun Jul 21, 2024 9:01 am

RVclaret wrote:
Sun Jul 21, 2024 8:07 am
What if the club sell all/most of our best players? Would it still be be an unbelievable squad at this level then?
One would hope that whoever deals with the accounts/numbers is aware that promotion is worth more to us than selling our best players. If they don't know that then we wouldn't deserve to be promoted.

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Post by RVclaret » Sun Jul 21, 2024 9:08 am

claretskeith wrote:
Sun Jul 21, 2024 9:01 am
One would hope that whoever deals with the accounts/numbers is aware that promotion is worth more to us than selling our best players. If they don't know that then we wouldn't deserve to be promoted.
Agree but forced debt repayments may have something to say about that (admittedly we don’t know exactly what that looks like).

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Post by jedi_master » Sun Jul 21, 2024 9:14 am

RVclaret wrote:
Sun Jul 21, 2024 9:08 am
Agree but forced debt repayments may have something to say about that (admittedly we don’t know exactly what that looks like).
I’d imagine that £20-25m for Trafford, similar for Odobert, £10-15m for Muric and £10m for Kompany would be sufficient for this year based off our last relegation. It’s all guesswork though as you say but that’s approaching £70m before we look at loaning out/selling the guys who clearly have no future here (Bastien, Churlinov, Egan-Riley etc).

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Post by claretskeith » Sun Jul 21, 2024 9:15 am

RVclaret wrote:
Sun Jul 21, 2024 9:08 am
Agree but forced debt repayments may have something to say about that (admittedly we don’t know exactly what that looks like).
But surely the lender will likely be aware that promotion gives us a better chance of paying it back quicker.

I wonder if the likes of Chester Perry knows roughly the minimum repayment needed before the window closes.

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Post by CrosspoolClarets » Sun Jul 21, 2024 9:24 am

I’m also fairly confident and more importantly am quite looking forward to it.

Parker has the opposite of VK’s challenge - a bit like pouring all the players into a sieve, giving it a shake, and seeing who are left in it. If we have to let go 10-15 more players, some for dosh, some who ask to go and some he wants to offload, that could bring in a lot of dosh, even the ones going for just a few million each would add to quite a bit.

Cannot rule out Parker deciding a big name striker is needed for £15m-£20m. We have done that in previous promotion seasons (Gray etc) and it would need funding by even more sales. I suspect Parker is making us more defensive so he will want a really good striker to offset that.

But all the other positions we can easily think of a good team including a 1st reserve for each position from players who are likely keen to stay. So that makes me optimistic.

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Post by Since62 » Sun Jul 21, 2024 9:32 am

I’m expecting a decent showing and a much more enjoyable season but not assuming anything. A few other clubs will also have high hopes of promotion and the team will have to fight for it. UTC.

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Post by jojomk1 » Sun Jul 21, 2024 9:43 am

RVclaret wrote:
Sat Jul 20, 2024 8:37 pm
Lokonga too.
Lokonga has gone on loan to Sevilla

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Post by warksclaret » Sun Jul 21, 2024 10:02 am

We should not underestimate the challenge of promotion-some see it as a given after our 100 plus points in the Championship last time. That time however we had some truly memorable individual performances that won us a number of games. Tella delivered some magical moments like the long goal kick he brought down beautifully at WBA which got us a penalty, his finish at Coventry, plus some of his wonderful strikes. We saw some incredible goals and wizardry from Benson, to a lesser degree from Zarourry. On top of that a couple of game winning goals from Maatsen. Two of these have gone for the other two no guarantee they will regularly feature or indeed recapture that form after being firmly frozen out

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Post by Nonayforever » Sun Jul 21, 2024 10:08 am

claretskeith wrote:
Sun Jul 21, 2024 9:01 am
One would hope that whoever deals with the accounts/numbers is aware that promotion is worth more to us than selling our best players. If they don't know that then we wouldn't deserve to be promoted.
Agree.
It has to be a combination of balancing the books and planning for the PL.
Surely even AP will realise that.

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Post by Vegas Claret » Sun Jul 21, 2024 2:12 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Sun Jul 21, 2024 8:07 am
What if the club sell all/most of our best players? Would it still be be an unbelievable squad at this level then?
I'd say it's pretty obvious we are talking about the here and now. What happens if we get taken over by the Saudi's, sell all our players and replace them with World class talent ? Hypothetical football scenarios are silly
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Post by Spike » Mon Jul 22, 2024 10:10 am

Sheffield Utd and Luton aren’t going back up
The Jealous Guys from downwind will struggle to stay up
Knobbers will launch their annual fight against promotion
We will go straight back up unless Pace sells players at the last minute with no adequate replacements for that position

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