Sander BERGE

[Clive 1960]

Can't blame the guy if he leaves if we get a decent price...

[123EasyasBFC]

https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/fener ... der-berge/

Wouldn’t day football league world is the most reliable. Fenerbache want him and he will want to leave for champs league but if they dont pay the fee then he will stay and get on with his role for us

[Guller Bull]

Wouldn’t day football league world is the most reliable. Fenerbache want him and he will want to leave for champs league but if they dont pay the fee then he will stay and get on with his role for us

Can't see any of the Turkish clubs, Rangers or many other foreign clubs being able to match the fee we supposedly would be asking. I suppose it depends whether or not there is a relatively low release fee included in contract. I think the clubs that may want him are likely to be clubs like West Ham, Everton, Forest or one of the newly promoted's

He is a good player and certainly amongst the best of a whole load of crap performances last season but not irreplacable.

[wilks_bfc]

If there is a release clause, then if it’s for anything less than at least £20m then whoever agreed to that needs sacking

[Guller Bull]

He is one of only a few that I thought VK may have come back for.

[Row x]

If there is a release clause, then if it’s for anything less than at least £20m then whoever agreed to that needs sacking

What if it was the only way he would sign?

[123EasyasBFC]

Can't see any of the Turkish clubs, Rangers or many other foreign clubs being able to match the fee we supposedly would be asking. I suppose it depends whether or not there is a relatively low release fee included in contract. I think the clubs that may want him are likely to be clubs like West Ham, Everton, Forest or one of the newly promoted's

He is a good player and certainly amongst the best of a whole load of crap performances last season but not irreplacable.

Where have you got rangers from?

If there was a release clause you’d assume it would be mentioned by now, just like it was with Collins and cornet

[Guller Bull]

Where have you got rangers from?

Yeah forget that bit, I was getting the Weghorst /Berge rumours mixed up. Was reading both a minute or so ago. Heavy night at a wedding do to blame!

[123EasyasBFC]

Yeah forget that bit, I was getting the Weghorst /Berge rumours mixed up. Was reading both a minute or so ago. Heavy night at a wedding do to blame!

I’d say rangers probably don’t have the money to sign weghorst either

[Guller Bull]

I’d say rangers probably don’t have the money to sign weghorst either

Agreed, would be right at the top end of their spending even if he went for about £6 mill

[RVclaret]

https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/fener ... der-berge/

Football league world reports from other sources, it’s not hard to read the article and check this, in this case the tweet I’ve already highlighted as nothinging-ness.

[JohnMac]

I believe a release clause is from the players side and not set by the club but more agreed following negotiation.

[TheFamilyCat]

I live near Leeds and my next door neighbour is a season ticket holder at Elland Road .He's just told me that they've signed Berge .Did I miss it on here or is it just breaking ? If it's true I'll be gutted...I liked him a lot and saw him as a potential major influence next season but to go to Leeds who could be a major threat to us is next term is a major blow .Could only have gone to one other place that would cause me as much grief . If he had to go I thought it would be to the Prem.

Do you have a reputation in your neighbourhood for being a bit gullible?

[bfcmik]

I’ve no idea…

But I DO know Leeds aren’t big enough to get Berge away from us.

Small town team punching well above their weight in the chanpionship, to massive one club city team jabbing spectacularly lower than they should be in the same division?

If billy bremners grandsons played for us they wouldn’t move to Leeds…

Joke club, joke city.

What do you really think about the club and town?

[ClaretPete001]

My next door neighbour told me Leeds had just signed Jake The Peg With the Extra Leg for £10 million.

Apparently he won the club's pre-season 3-legged race by a mile...! Just shows because it was only over 100 metres.

It's no wonder Donald trump is soon going to be the leader of the free world again.

[HahaYeah]

My next door neighbour told me Leeds had just signed Jake The Peg With the Extra Leg for £10 million.

Apparently he won the club's pre-season 3-legged race by a mile...! Just shows because it was only over 100 metres.

It's no wonder Donald trump is soon going to be the leader of the free world again.

That's only if some crazed liberal doesn't shoot him.

[TheFamilyCat]

That's a good quality dog whistle.

[gawthorpe_view]

What if it was the only way he would sign?

A point that has been raised several times on here but a few don't seem to comprehend.

[Row x]

A point that has been raised several times on here but a few don't seem to comprehend.

Certainly a sensible inclusion on the players side, to avoid being priced out of a move following relegation

[evensteadiereddie]

[boatshed bill]

If we get a reasonable profit then off he should go.
Much as he has achieved almost legendary status on here I think we'd do fine without him.

[Foreverly Claret]

Do you have a reputation in your neighbourhood for being a bit gullible?

No I don't and neither does my neighbour .As I said in a follow up post he was on the payroll at Leeds ; remains very well connected post retirement and usually gets the stuff relating to DL spot on . When he told me I looked for follow up on here and tried checking elsewhere .Where I admit I was taken in was misreading the post on News Now as being factual .What's it like to be perfect.?

[Elizabeth]

If we get a reasonable profit then off he should go.
Much as he has achieved almost legendary status on here I think we'd do fine without him.

Yeh, he was ok bill wasn't he. That's what making a few direct runs in a poor team excels you too these days

[boatshed bill]

Yeh, he was ok bill wasn't he. That's what making a few direct runs in a poor team excels you too these days

Yes, probably about right with that.
Let's face it, the tallest cabbage in a field is bound to be favourite,

[Elizabeth]

Yes, probably about right with that.
Let's face it, the tallest cabbage in a field is bound to be favourite,

I didn't know you were a bit of a farmer bill. Let's hope the crop is much improved next season when the weather should be much kinder

[123EasyasBFC]

No I don't and neither does my neighbour .As I said in a follow up post he was on the payroll at Leeds ; remains very well connected post retirement and usually gets the stuff relating to DL spot on . When he told me I looked for follow up on here and tried checking elsewhere .Where I admit I was taken in was misreading the post on News Now as being factual .What's it like to be perfect.?

Tbf Leeds fans live that much in the past your neighbour could of been talking about Henning Berg, they probably tried to sign him in the late 90s/ early 00s

[NewClaret]

I’d say we had about 7-8 genuine premier league quality players last season. When they all played we usually gave teams a decent game, although we’re never favourites or looking comfortable.

We’ve already sold one of them. Berge was another.

For every one of those we sell we will need to replace them again if we ever go up. As well as reducing our chances of going up again of course.

Personally I can’t get excited about any level of profit in that context and hope he stays.

[Jakubclaret]

I’d say we had about 7-8 genuine premier league quality players last season. When they all played we usually gave teams a decent game, although we’re never favourites or looking comfortable.

We’ve already sold one of them. Berge was another.

For every one of those we sell we will need to replace them again if we ever go up. As well as reducing our chances of going up again of course.

Personally I can’t get excited about any level of profit in that context and hope he stays.

Complete codswallop we got our arses handed to us most games. A odd 1 or 2 did ok some games intermittently. The gulf in quality was massive all over the place.

[NewClaret]

Complete codswallop we got our arses handed to us most games. A odd 1 or 2 did ok some games intermittently. The gulf in quality was massive all over the place.

Well after Muric returned to the fold and after the January transfer window we averaged a point a game. Barely, just barely, enough to have launched a reasonable relegation fight had we started that team from the outset.

We still needed 3-4 more for the first team before worrying about building a premier league standard bench. So overall I stand by my view that we had 7-8 capable of playing at that level and every one we sell is another we’ll have to replace if we go up again.

[Jakubclaret]

Well after Muric returned to the fold and after the January transfer window we averaged a point a game. Barely, just barely, enough to have launched a reasonable relegation fight had we started that team from the outset.

We still needed 3-4 more for the first team before worrying about building a premier league standard bench. So overall I stand by my view that we had 7-8 capable of playing at that level and every one we sell is another we’ll have to replace if we go up again.

We had a upturn in form at a point in the season avoiding defeats scraping draws when we desperately needed wins. From what I remember it was complete & utter garbage & a litany of excuses blaming VAR for every misdeamour under the sun. If we really had a number of PL quality players they would have been well sought after not 2 going to newly promoted sides. It was a cataclysmic car crash of a season with the only positive arriving when the whistle was blown after the forest game.

[NewClaret]

We had a upturn in form at a point in the season avoiding defeats scraping draws when we desperately needed wins. From what I remember it was complete & utter garbage & a litany of excuses blaming VAR for every misdeamour under the sun. If we really had a number of PL quality players they would have been well sought after not 2 going to newly promoted sides. It was a cataclysmic car crash of a season with the only positive arriving when the whistle was blown after the forest game.

It’s a bit irrelevant to be honest.

Berge was one of our best players regardless. If we’re selling him we will have to find someone equally as good or better if we go up again. So any profit earned now will be temporary because it’ll all need reinvesting if we go up.

If we’re saying he wasn’t good enough either, we’ll need to spend more than what we eventually sell him for to find an better replacement.

Currently we have very few players who are up to premier league standards as you so eloquently describe, so those anywhere near being that level need to be retained or replaced if we go up.

[Jakubclaret]

It’s a bit irrelevant to be honest.

Berge was one of our best players regardless. If we’re selling him we will have to find someone equally as good or better if we go up again. So any profit earned now will be temporary because it’ll all need reinvesting if we go up.

If we’re saying he wasn’t good enough either, we’ll need to spend more than what we eventually sell him for to find an better replacement.

Currently we have very few players who are up to premier league standards as you so eloquently describe, so those anywhere near being that level need to be retained or replaced if we go up.

Berges gone it's just a question of when & there's bob hope chance of replacing him adequately like for like. It's a reset & rebuild job for SP to get a grip of.

[NewClaret]

Berges gone it's just a question of when & there's bob hope chance of replacing him adequately like for like. It's a reset & rebuild job for SP to get a grip of.

Precisely. So my point is that losing our player of the year:

- immediately weakens us
- makes our chances of a return less likely
- requires us to replace him if we get promoted anyway
- given there’s £200m riding on promotion again, probably doesn’t make much financial sense

So I hope he doesn’t go. That doesn’t mean I don’t expect him to, but I’ll take no comfort from any profit we make when the it’ll be overwhelmingly bad news for the team. I can’t watch our bank balance on a Saturday/Tuesday.

We’ll just have to hope Parker can mirror Kompany’s success at rebuilds and we bounce straight back.

[Vegas Claret]

If we keep selling our best players every season then we are on the road to nowhere

[fidelcastro]

If we keep selling our best players every season then we are on the road to nowhere

Has he gone then?

[Boydesque]

Hope so and we get good money
Massively overated lazy player
Did it when he could be arsed

[Swizzlestick]

Hope so and we get good money
Massively overated lazy player
Did it when he could be arsed

Utter rubbish.

[fidelcastro]

Hope so and we get good money
Massively overated lazy player
Did it when he could be arsed

Boyd 4

[IanMcL]

We have to have a settled, very good quality rmteam, to both get promotion and ve good enough to hold a place in the Prem. Otherwise, it is a pointless exercise.

Eventually, we will fail to win a promotion and the the wheels will drop off.

[Grimsdale]

Berges gone it's just a question of when & there's bob hope chance of replacing him adequately like for like. It's a reset & rebuild job for SP to get a grip of.

I'm of the opinion that we won't sell Berge for less than 25m and I can't see anyone coming in for him at that price. We've held out for more for Trafford and Berge is a way more valuable asset. Pace knows that to make money we need to be in the Premier League and that selling our best players for peanuts isn't the way to go about it.

[Vegas Claret]

Has he gone then?

not that I'm aware of, it was more just an opinion on too many squad arrivals/departures every season with the best lads the first out of the door. I lost count last season the amount of times people said they felt no connection with the team - it wont do us any favours in terms of building something sustainable imho

[IPAclaret]

Good to see some of the resident experts on here most notably Boatshed bill and Elizabeth have decided between them in their infinite wisdom that Berge wasn't all that.

Just hilarious. Played in his best position he is a top quality player and our best by far. Different class to just about any other championship player.

With him we are favourite's for a quick return. Without him we are still strong by championship standards but seriously weakened and would need expensive outlay to replace him if we are promoted making it a bit of a false economy unless the offer is to good to turn down.

[AGENT_CLARET]

Good to see some of the resident experts on here most notably Boatshed bill and Elizabeth have decided between them in their infinite wisdom that Berge wasn't all that.

Just hilarious. Played in his best position he is a top quality player and our best by far. Different class to just about any other championship player.

With him we are favourite's for a quick return. Without him we are still strong by championship standards but seriously weakened and would need expensive outlay to replace him if we are promoted making it a bit of a false economy unless the offer is to good to turn down.

It needs to be a minimum £25 million

[Hanoverusaclaret]

Hoping Berge stays for at least another season. There is hope. He stayed with the Blades when they went down. He only left when they went up and he knew they weren't going to invest in the team.
There has been the suggestion of a relegation clause, but if that does actually exist, I would hope there is language against him joining a rival like Leeds for instances. That would be a huge kick in the nuts. I would be fine with him leaving for a decent fee to a Premier League mainstay (like Fulham) or a foreign team. Even bottom end PL teams could be competing with us next year.

[burnley007]

I would hope that at some point he would like to settle at a club for a few seasons.

Maybe.

[BleedingClaret]

To me Berge staying is the difference between top 2 or top 6
If we sell him for less than £25m it’s because we’re in a financial hole and have to sell

[NewClaret]

To me Berge staying is the difference between top 2 or top 6
If we sell him for less than £25m it’s because we’re in a financial hole and have to sell

Agree with this.

It’s so often overlooked how much money we make by getting promoted. It’s a guaranteed £200m or whatever. £25m
pales in to insignificance. We’ve got to give ourselves the best possible chance of getting up and Berge is crucial for that.

[bumba]

Agree with this.

It’s so often overlooked how much money we make by getting promoted. It’s a guaranteed £200m or whatever. £25m
pales in to insignificance. We’ve got to give ourselves the best possible chance of getting up and Berge is crucial for that.

Crucial if his head is in it, if he wants to move and not play in the championship then he wouldn't be crucial at all and more of a hindrance.

Player power rules these days, if he's focused he's absolutely the best midfielder in the league.

[Elizabeth]

Good to see some of the resident experts on here most notably Boatshed bill and Elizabeth have decided between them in their infinite wisdom that Berge wasn't all that.

Just hilarious. Played in his best position he is a top quality player and our best by far. Different class to just about any other championship player.

With him we are favourite's for a quick return. Without him we are still strong by championship standards but seriously weakened and would need expensive outlay to replace him if we are promoted making it a bit of a false economy unless the offer is to good to turn down.

Some people really struggle with the concept that it is ok to have a different opinion

[NewClaret]

Crucial if his head is in it, if he wants to move and not play in the championship then he wouldn't be crucial at all and more of a hindrance.

Player power rules these days, if he's focused he's absolutely the best midfielder in the league.

I don’t think after a few weeks of the season and knowing he’d not been sold it’d make a jot of difference to his performances.

No player steps on to the field and wants to play badly. If he really wants a move he’d have to play well to earn it in a future window.

I go back to the point that every player at our club is looking to move to bigger and better things, it’s a key motivation rather than a hindrance, in my opinion.