Cadiz v Burnley Sun 4th August

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Re: Cadiz v Burnley Sun 4th August

Post by Clevedon Claret » Sun Aug 04, 2024 6:13 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Sun Aug 04, 2024 6:08 pm
Mi española no es muy buena pero buenas tardes

Su Espanol es muy bueno CT
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Re: Cadiz v Burnley Sun 4th August

Post by Safron » Sun Aug 04, 2024 6:13 pm

We lack cohesion in the final third it's all a bit underwhelming

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Re: Cadiz v Burnley Sun 4th August

Post by blatherwickstattoos » Sun Aug 04, 2024 6:14 pm

I like how all the players whinge like mad about how cold and dull Burnley is to play and train In. Give them a bit of heat and they looked shagged

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Re: Cadiz v Burnley Sun 4th August

Post by warksclaret » Sun Aug 04, 2024 6:15 pm

Safron wrote:
Sun Aug 04, 2024 6:13 pm
We lack cohesion in the final third it's all a bit underwhelming
And as a result there is very little goal threat. We seem unbalanced in playing 3 wide men and trying to shoe horn them into a team
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Re: Cadiz v Burnley Sun 4th August

Post by Stonehouse » Sun Aug 04, 2024 6:15 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Sun Aug 04, 2024 6:12 pm
A bit like what we called the Owen Coyle jiggery pokery system which he finally ditched with the signing of Thompson.
Thomson.😂

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Re: Cadiz v Burnley Sun 4th August

Post by Casper2 » Sun Aug 04, 2024 6:15 pm

I think the commentator is watching a different game to me .

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Re: Cadiz v Burnley Sun 4th August

Post by The Shire Claret » Sun Aug 04, 2024 6:16 pm

Is this like a 4-5-1

It’s blagging my head ! Lol

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Re: Cadiz v Burnley Sun 4th August

Post by The Shire Claret » Sun Aug 04, 2024 6:16 pm

Is this like a 4-5-1

It’s blagging my head ! Lol

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Re: Cadiz v Burnley Sun 4th August

Post by jedi_master » Sun Aug 04, 2024 6:16 pm

Foster as a line leading striker should work, yet his desire to drop deep and occupy that area that Odobert (allegedly) is playing in means we have no platform to look after the ball up front.

Yes, it’s a friendly - but still, it’s all I can comment on at this stage. The difference Berge would make in a midfield three with one of Zaroury/Odobert played wide left and the other dropped is immeasurable.

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Re: Cadiz v Burnley Sun 4th August

Post by ClaretTony » Sun Aug 04, 2024 6:16 pm

Stonehouse wrote:
Sun Aug 04, 2024 6:15 pm
Thomson.😂
Thompson was the key signing in that promotion season
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Re: Cadiz v Burnley Sun 4th August

Post by blatherwickstattoos » Sun Aug 04, 2024 6:16 pm

The Shire Claret wrote:
Sun Aug 04, 2024 6:16 pm
Is this like a 4-5-1

It’s blagging my head ! Lol
Looks more like 4-1-2-1-1-1 . God knows what this set up is
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Re: Cadiz v Burnley Sun 4th August

Post by gawthorpe_view » Sun Aug 04, 2024 6:17 pm

Koleosho es rapido, apparently. 😆

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Re: Cadiz v Burnley Sun 4th August

Post by Foshiznik » Sun Aug 04, 2024 6:18 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Sun Aug 04, 2024 6:16 pm
Thompson was the key signing in that promotion season
That goal at Reading… 8-)

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Re: Cadiz v Burnley Sun 4th August

Post by The Shire Claret » Sun Aug 04, 2024 6:19 pm

blatherwickstattoos wrote:
Sun Aug 04, 2024 6:16 pm
Looks more like 4-1-2-1-1-1 . God knows what this set up is
:lol:

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Re: Cadiz v Burnley Sun 4th August

Post by Vegas Claret » Sun Aug 04, 2024 6:19 pm

I'm blaming this performance on the heat ! Hopefully it'll be raining in Luton
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Re: Cadiz v Burnley Sun 4th August

Post by blatherwickstattoos » Sun Aug 04, 2024 6:19 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Sun Aug 04, 2024 6:16 pm
Thompson was the key signing in that promotion season
Like an Ashley Barnes type. By all accounts he ran the dressing room and was very well respected amongst the squad

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Re: Cadiz v Burnley Sun 4th August

Post by Granny WeatherWax » Sun Aug 04, 2024 6:19 pm

Only a training game but that was naff

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Re: Cadiz v Burnley Sun 4th August

Post by burnley007 » Sun Aug 04, 2024 6:19 pm

Berge is irreplaceable

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Re: Cadiz v Burnley Sun 4th August

Post by bfcmik » Sun Aug 04, 2024 6:19 pm

More like a 1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1 to me, a team of individuals
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Re: Cadiz v Burnley Sun 4th August

Post by Casper2 » Sun Aug 04, 2024 6:20 pm

Parker acting as DJ (I will survive)
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Re: Cadiz v Burnley Sun 4th August

Post by Rileybobs » Sun Aug 04, 2024 6:20 pm

Really disappointed with the away support. They need to make some noise and get behind the team for the next 45.
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Re: Cadiz v Burnley Sun 4th August

Post by Cooclaret » Sun Aug 04, 2024 6:20 pm

New season; still think Roberts is robbing the club.

He’s a real weak link in any system we seem to play.

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Re: Cadiz v Burnley Sun 4th August

Post by jojomk1 » Sun Aug 04, 2024 6:20 pm

gawthorpe_view wrote:
Sun Aug 04, 2024 6:17 pm
Koleosho es rapido, apparently. 😆
He may be quick - we saw this last season
But he is totally wasted on the right
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Re: Cadiz v Burnley Sun 4th August

Post by ClaretTony » Sun Aug 04, 2024 6:20 pm

blatherwickstattoos wrote:
Sun Aug 04, 2024 6:19 pm
Like an Ashley Barnes type. By all accounts he ran the dressing room and was very well respected amongst the squad
We looked a different side from his debut at Forest. Then Coyle just about ignored him after promotion.

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Re: Cadiz v Burnley Sun 4th August

Post by Goalposts » Sun Aug 04, 2024 6:21 pm

Well a lot of the problems still seem evident - pretty tippy tappy in parts - no hold up player up front - sloppy passes - unbalanced and lacking cohesion at present

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Re: Cadiz v Burnley Sun 4th August

Post by RVclaret » Sun Aug 04, 2024 6:21 pm

Playing on a crap, dry, bobbly pitch in 34 degrees was only going to head one way. Enjoying just watching a game.
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Re: Cadiz v Burnley Sun 4th August

Post by blatherwickstattoos » Sun Aug 04, 2024 6:21 pm

bfcmik wrote:
Sun Aug 04, 2024 6:19 pm
More like a 1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1 to me, a team of individuals
Absolutely all over the shop there weren’t we? Hopefully he can use all the data from that half on how not to set up in the future.

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Re: Cadiz v Burnley Sun 4th August

Post by bfcmik » Sun Aug 04, 2024 6:21 pm

Dara say it, but he isn't as good as he thinks he is!

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Re: Cadiz v Burnley Sun 4th August

Post by blatherwickstattoos » Sun Aug 04, 2024 6:23 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Sun Aug 04, 2024 6:20 pm
We looked a different side from his debut at Forest. Then Coyle just about ignored him after promotion.
Yeah that was baffling the lack of game time he got. Shades of benson last season.

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Re: Cadiz v Burnley Sun 4th August

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Sun Aug 04, 2024 6:23 pm

Would like to see the new striker come on
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Re: Cadiz v Burnley Sun 4th August

Post by 123EasyasBFC » Sun Aug 04, 2024 6:23 pm

Other than the obvious poor marking from the corner, I think it’s been a good run out so far, a few loose touches which is to be expected on a dodgy pitch and in the heat.

However Odobert is a winger not a number 10
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Re: Cadiz v Burnley Sun 4th August

Post by blatherwickstattoos » Sun Aug 04, 2024 6:24 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Sun Aug 04, 2024 6:23 pm
Would like to see the new striker come on
And benson (if he’s on the Bench)

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Re: Cadiz v Burnley Sun 4th August

Post by Safron » Sun Aug 04, 2024 6:24 pm

I know it's just a training session for fitness but we need to be much better if we think we are going to storm the championship

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Re: Cadiz v Burnley Sun 4th August

Post by Foshiznik » Sun Aug 04, 2024 6:24 pm

Just a friendly reminder to the fans already frothing at the mouth. This game is a pre season friendly. The result doesn’t matter. Fitness and sharpness are the most important things and it’s also important for the manager to experiment tactically and play players in different positions.

We will not win a cup or 3 points by winning today. Please calm down the drama queenery.
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Re: Cadiz v Burnley Sun 4th August

Post by Row x » Sun Aug 04, 2024 6:24 pm

Thank goodness the other training sessions were behind closed doors.
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Re: Cadiz v Burnley Sun 4th August

Post by KlyBfc » Sun Aug 04, 2024 6:24 pm

It’s pre season, it’s hot, they will have trained hard all week (not the usual rest theyd have).

However, we need to be miles better at defending especially the physical contact stuff (that free header was pathetic), Odobert is not a central midfielder (10) for the week in week out rigours of championship football (if at all), Vitinho is still fairly poor at left back and our widemen need to produce much more quality when in possession (Fosters had little opportunity in the box).

All those are legitimate concerns we had last year too.
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Re: Cadiz v Burnley Sun 4th August

Post by Stan Tastic » Sun Aug 04, 2024 6:25 pm

I think we just broke the record for the most over-hit passes in a half.

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Re: Cadiz v Burnley Sun 4th August

Post by IanMcL » Sun Aug 04, 2024 6:25 pm

Disappointing.

Nothing up front and lots of misplaced passes.
2nd half we will slay them....honest!

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Re: Cadiz v Burnley Sun 4th August

Post by blatherwickstattoos » Sun Aug 04, 2024 6:25 pm

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Sun Aug 04, 2024 6:23 pm
Other than the obvious poor marking from the corner, I think it’s been a good run out so far, a few loose touches which is to be expected on a dodgy pitch and in the heat.

However Odobert is a winger not a number 10
Could see this last season. Pointless playing him there he’s not in the game

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Re: Cadiz v Burnley Sun 4th August

Post by Blyclaret » Sun Aug 04, 2024 6:25 pm

Ok a practice game. But rubbish. Tippy tappy. Over and back.
Free header at near post for their goal. No hold up play. No shot or attempt on goal.
I await improvements in second half

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Re: Cadiz v Burnley Sun 4th August

Post by ClaretAL » Sun Aug 04, 2024 6:26 pm

I’m hoping we get a look at the new lads in the second half
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Re: Cadiz v Burnley Sun 4th August

Post by blatherwickstattoos » Sun Aug 04, 2024 6:27 pm

Foshiznik wrote:
Sun Aug 04, 2024 6:24 pm
Just a friendly reminder to the fans already frothing at the mouth. This game is a pre season friendly. The result doesn’t matter. Fitness and sharpness are the most important things and it’s also important for the manager to experiment tactically and play players in different positions.

We will not win a cup or 3 points by winning today. Please calm down the drama queenery.
Just a friendly reminder to the fans that you are free to comment on a game you’re watching , pre season or not and commenting about the match on here as it happens. Nobody will judge you. Thanks
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Re: Cadiz v Burnley Sun 4th August

Post by jos » Sun Aug 04, 2024 6:29 pm

Nice views though!

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Re: Cadiz v Burnley Sun 4th August

Post by The Shire Claret » Sun Aug 04, 2024 6:29 pm

Playing in this heat - I was resigned to a defeat against a team much more used to it ….

Played some good stuff in parts and having AZ - LK and WO in the same team should cause some real danger next season

Terrifying defences !

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Re: Cadiz v Burnley Sun 4th August

Post by Safron » Sun Aug 04, 2024 6:30 pm

jos wrote:
Sun Aug 04, 2024 6:29 pm
Nice views though!
Beautiful vistas

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Re: Cadiz v Burnley Sun 4th August

Post by NottsClaret » Sun Aug 04, 2024 6:30 pm

Decided to come in the end. Nowt has haopened, doesn’t look as bad ‘live’, just a training session really. Might go and cool off for a bit in Reactor Two at Chernobyl.
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Re: Cadiz v Burnley Sun 4th August

Post by jos » Sun Aug 04, 2024 6:30 pm

Cr*p music….. get ‘’Time like these’ on

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Re: Cadiz v Burnley Sun 4th August

Post by Guller Bull » Sun Aug 04, 2024 6:31 pm

blatherwickstattoos wrote:
Sun Aug 04, 2024 6:27 pm
Just a friendly reminder to the fans that you are free to comment on a game you’re watching , pre season or not and commenting about the match on here as it happens. Nobody will judge you. Thanks

False. You may well be judged There are people judging you now.This is UTC.
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Re: Cadiz v Burnley Sun 4th August

Post by spt_claret » Sun Aug 04, 2024 6:32 pm

Foshiznik wrote:
Sun Aug 04, 2024 6:24 pm
Just a friendly reminder to the fans already frothing at the mouth. This game is a pre season friendly. The result doesn’t matter. Fitness and sharpness are the most important things and it’s also important for the manager to experiment tactically and play players in different positions.

We will not win a cup or 3 points by winning today. Please calm down the drama queenery.
Just a friendly reminder that everyone said this last season, especially in regards to players looking good or not good in preseason, then lo and behold, some who looked poor in preseason played poorly for real, some who played well in preseason took forever to get the chance then played well for real. The performance problems carried over into the league right through.

Momentum and performances do matter somewhat- not the be all end all but somewhat, and good performances tend to result in decent results. Results also help with confidence & belief.
If it was purely about fitness they'd just be doing cardio, if it was purely about tactical experiments they'd just do practice rotation games splitting the squad in 2.
I'm certainly not "frothing at the mouth". or panicking over 1 half in preseason but to pretend that the performance or result are completely meaningless is stupid- if it was meaningless, we wouldn't bother.
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Re: Cadiz v Burnley Sun 4th August

Post by bfcmik » Sun Aug 04, 2024 6:32 pm

O'Shea and Esteve too often doing an 'England', just putting their foot on the ball and killing the game for a couple of minutes. Looks like we watched too much of Stones, Walker & co a couple of months ago. Steve has at least managed to push forward a few times though

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