Team for Luton

[criminalclaret]

Right back is an interesting predicament.

Roberts is well positioned for it but is aging.

Has Parker try a few CB's in RB position during any of the friendlies?

Other than that, looks pretty solid line up.

[Sapperclaret73]

Hladky


Roberts Oshea Esteve Pires


Cullen Brownhill


Luca Odobert Zaroury

Foster


Hard to call. parker doesnt know his starting 11 so we have little chance. Regardless with have an amazing squad and lots of competition for every place. On paper we can beat every team in the league but its all about how we’ve gelled as a team.

[RVclaret]

Thought I'd bring this thread back up now we're only a week away.

Hladky
Roberts O'Shea Esteve Pires
Cullen Brownhill
Koleosho Berge Odobert
Foster

Subs include Benson Zaroury Hout Vitinho Beyer Agyei Massengo

Can't see Trafford playing. I'd probably have started him if all was well though.

Note that your squad would fall short on homegrown quota (7 required and you have 5 Inc Trafford). Also doubt Berge will be fit if he’s not played the last 2 games so I take it he’d be off the bench if at all.

[RVclaret]

————————Hladky
Roberts—O’Shea—Esteve—Pires
—Massengo—Cullen—Brownhill
Koleosho ——Foster———Odobert

(Brownhill pressing further forward in a 4-4-2)

Trafford, Egan-Riley, Vitinho, Zaroury, Benson, Amdouni, Berge, Jay, Hountondji

[ArmchairDetective]

Note that your squad would fall short on homegrown quota (7 required and you have 5 Inc Trafford). Also doubt Berge will be fit if he’s not played the last 2 games so I take it he’d be off the bench if at all.

I guess my remaining two subs might be from the youth team

Fair point about Berge. Would be tempted to bring in Massengo and push Browny up field in that case. Or JBG for Berge. Against other opposition I might bring in another of Zaroury/Benson. But I think we'll need some muscle in the middle of the park v Luton.

[billyhamilton82]

Hladky

Roberts - O'Shea - Esteve - Pires

Cullen - Berge

Luca - Odobert - Zaroury

Foster

Subs: Amdouni, Benson, JBG, Hountondji, Brownhill, Vitinho, Beyer, Trafford

[RVclaret]

Hladky

Roberts - O'Shea - Esteve - Pires

Cullen - Berge

Luca - Odobert - Zaroury

Foster

Subs: Amdouni, Benson, JBG, Hountondji, Brownhill, Vitinho, Beyer, Trafford

Again, and note to others, only 5 homegrown players here, need 7.

[morninbob]

Again, and note to others, only 5 homegrown players here, need 7.

I thought it was 7 on the squad?

[RVclaret]

I thought it was 7 on the squad?

Match day squad of 20.

[morninbob]

Trafford
Vitiniho O'Shea esteve pires
Cullen
Brownhill Berge
Koleosho foster odebert

[Jakubs Tash]

Odobert isn’t really a number 10.
Koleosho isn’t really a right winger.
Nobody knows how good Massengo actually is.

If Koleosho, Odobert and Zaroury play as the three behind Foster it feels to me as though they’re being shoe-horned in just so they all play. I’d prefer round pegs in round holes and sometimes the harsh reality is needing to drop one of them.

[billyhamilton82]

Again, and note to others, only 5 homegrown players here, need 7.

Tried to edit once I read your original post but wouldn't let me.

WOW now I know why SB gets paid the big bucks, its not as easy as you first assume.

[RVclaret]

Tried to edit once I read your original post but wouldn't let me.

WOW now I know why SB gets paid the big bucks, its not as easy as you first assume.

Yeah it’s hard. That’s why I’ve kept Egan-Riley in mine and was surprised our new keeper that’s signing isn’t homegrown, given our lack of them.

[Sapperclaret73]

Which of our players qualify as homegrown? Could it be an issue for us this season if we get a few injuries?

[claretspice]

------------Trafford (if available)
Roberts O'Shea Esteve Pires
-------------Cullen Berge*
----------------Brownhill
Koleosho ‐---------Odobert
---------------Foster

Subs - Whoever but presumably 2 home grown, which is going to be a challenge for us with this squad, unless we plan on including a couple of kids on the bench as a matter of course. I make it the above team has 5, or 4 if Trafford is unavailable. You'd expect Rodriguez to make the bench but we do look a bit short in thos respect for such a big squad.

[RVclaret]

Which of our players qualify as homegrown? Could it be an issue for us this season if we get a few injuries?

Trafford
O'Shea
Egan-Riley
Brownhill
Rodriguez
Roberts
Redmond
Ramsey
Cullen
Obafemi
Dodgson
Twine

I think it’s a bit of an issue yeah. Given Trafford is likely off, Redmond is injured, Ramsey is out till December and Obafemi clearly isn’t fancied, oh and Twine is probably off.

It paves the way for some overseas players to leave (Ekdal, Al-Dakhil, Berge, Amdouni, Odobert, Delcroix) and new signings have to be hg, otherwise there’s simply no way of getting them into the match day squad together!

[Sapperclaret73]

Its seems like a bit of a mess. All these players but no chance of them playing.

[boatshed bill]

Hladky
Roberts, Beyer, Esteve, Pires,
JBG, Cullen, Brownhill, Zaroury,
Foster, Hountondji

Obviously I'm expecting Berge to be off elsewhere.

[fatboy47]

Hladky
Roberts, Beyer, Esteve, Pires,
JBG, Cullen, Brownhill, Zaroury,
Foster, Hountondji

Obviously I'm expecting Berge to be off elsewhere.

I think that'll be there or thereabouts bb.

[RVclaret]

I think that'll be there or thereabouts bb.

Apart from Beyer being injured and not played a game all pre season, and JBG missing the last 2 weeks of training and 2 games, and Parker not playing two up top, it’ll be close

[warksclaret]

Hyladky
Roberts OShea Esteve Pires
Cullen Brownhill
Zarourry Odobert Koleosho
Foster

[Grimsdale]

Trafford
O'Shea
Egan-Riley
Brownhill
Rodriguez
Roberts
Redmond
Ramsey
Cullen
Obafemi
Dodgson
Twine

I think it’s a bit of an issue yeah. Given Trafford is likely off, Redmond is injured, Ramsey is out till December and Obafemi clearly isn’t fancied, oh and Twine is probably off.

It paves the way for some overseas players to leave (Ekdal, Al-Dakhil, Berge, Amdouni, Odobert, Delcroix) and new signings have to be hg, otherwise there’s simply no way of getting them into the match day squad together!

I think Massengo qualifies as homegrown, he spent three seasons on Bristol City's books before his 21st birthday.

[RVclaret]

I think Massengo qualifies as homegrown, he spent three seasons on Bristol City's books before his 21st birthday.

Doesn’t unfortunately, 28 days out.

[Grimsdale]

Doesn’t unfortunately, 28 days out.

The regulations say "the player must be registered with a Club and/or any other football club affiliated to the Football Association or the Football Association of Wales, for a period, continuous or not of three Seasons or 36 months prior to his 21st birthday (or the end of the Season during which he turns 21)."

Agree he misses out on the 36 month criteria but he meets the three seasons one.

[RVclaret]

The regulations say "the player must be registered with a Club and/or any other football club affiliated to the Football Association or the Football Association of Wales, for a period, continuous or not of three Seasons or 36 months prior to his 21st birthday (or the end of the Season during which he turns 21)."

Agree he misses out on the 36 month criteria but he meets the three seasons one.

How come the PL didn’t list him as hg last season then?

https://www.premierleague.com/news/3681595

[Grimsdale]

Good point! But from the regulations it does seem like he should qualify as home grown.

[RVclaret]

Good point! But from the regulations it does seem like he should qualify as home grown.

Reckon I’ve figured it out, he signed for Bristol City on 5th August, they’d already played a game (the day before) by that point, so technically it’s not the ‘entire season’!

[Grimsdale]

Reckon I’ve figured it out, he signed for Bristol City on 5th August, they’d already played a game (the day before) by that point, so technically it’s not the ‘entire season’!

Ah, you could be right. Even more annoyingly close in that case!

[boatshed bill]

Apart from Beyer being injured and not played a game all pre season, and JBG missing the last 2 weeks of training and 2 games, and Parker not playing two up top, it’ll be close

It's only a bit of fun, don't take things so seriously.
That's the team I'd like to see. I'm not the manager

[summitclaret]

I've assumed that Trafford, Beyer, Berge, JBG, Ekdal, Al-Dakhil are unavailable for various reasons.

Hyladky
Roberts OShea Esteve Pires
Cullen Massengo
Odobert Brownhill Koleosho
Foster

[JMU81]

Whatever team the manager picks will start the game.

[helmclaret]

This is what I’d start with;

Hyladky
Roberts OShea Esteve Pires
Cullen Brownhill
Zarourry Odobert Koleosho
Foster

*assuming Berge is injured / sold

[NewClaret]

Hladky
Roberts, Beyer, Esteve, Pires,
JBG, Cullen, Brownhill, Zaroury,
Foster, Hountondji

Obviously I'm expecting Berge to be off elsewhere.

No Odobert or Koleosho?

[BB4Claret]

We need experience and strength against a physically tough Luton team. (Look at how they equalised at Turf Moor last season.)

Hladky
Vitinho - O’Shea - Estève - Pires
Cullen - Brownhill
JBG - Berge - Zaroury
Foster

Bench : Trafford, Sambo, Benson, Massengo, Amdouni, Twine, Hountondji, Odobert, Beyer(if fit?)/Ekdal(again, if fit???)/McNally

[NewClaret]

Trafford
O'Shea
Egan-Riley
Brownhill
Rodriguez
Roberts
Redmond
Ramsey
Cullen
Obafemi
Dodgson
Twine

I think it’s a bit of an issue yeah. Given Trafford is likely off, Redmond is injured, Ramsey is out till December and Obafemi clearly isn’t fancied, oh and Twine is probably off.

It paves the way for some overseas players to leave (Ekdal, Al-Dakhil, Berge, Amdouni, Odobert, Delcroix) and new signings have to be hg, otherwise there’s simply no way of getting them into the match day squad together!

I was aware of the squad rule but not the Matchday squad rule. Is it not also U21’s which would then add a number in like Ageyi? Or is it 7 straight home grown?

McNally not home grown?

[NewClaret]

We need experience and strength against a physically tough Luton team. (Look at how they equalised at Turf Moor last season.)

Hladky
Vitinho - O’Shea - Estève - Pires
Cullen - Brownhill
JBG - Berge - Zaroury
Foster

Bench : Trafford, Sambo, Benson, Massengo, Amdouni, Twine, Hountondji, Odobert, Beyer(if fit?)/Ekdal(again, if fit???)/McNally

Agree with your point about needing physicality and experience. Would like to see Berge in CM if anywhere near fit, with JBG in the 10 or Brownhill if not.

I’m surprised how many people select Zaroury on LW. He would be behind both Odobert and Koleosho for me.

So minor tweaks to your team:

Hladky
Vitinho - O’Shea - Estève - Pires
Cullen - Berge
Koleosho - JBG - Odobert
Foster

Assuming no Berge/JBG:

Hladky
Vitinho - O’Shea - Estève - Pires
Cullen - Massengo
Koleosho - Brownhill - Odobert
Foster

[BigGaz]

Right back is an interesting predicament.

Roberts is well positioned for it but is aging.

Has Parker try a few CB's in RB position during any of the friendlies?

Other than that, looks pretty solid line up.

Kinell, I'd give my left one to be aging like Roberts! 28 years old and the lads got one foot in the grave

I am not overly fussed as to the first 11 In the opening games, there's a lot of players who have a justifiable claim to be in the mix but the main thing I just wanna see are square pegs in square holes.

[Wokingclaret]

Agree with your point about needing physicality and experience. Would like to see Berge in CM if anywhere near fit, with JBG in the 10 or Brownhill if not.

I’m surprised how many people select Zaroury on LW. He would be behind both Odobert and Koleosho for me.

He put in a brilliant cross in the first half, no one on the end of it

[NewClaret]

Worth noting here that:

- Luton have had a poor ish pre-season. Not that we’ve pulled up any trees but their fans are not happy at the moment with the summer business or pre-season form, having lost a lot of games.

- They have an injury crises at the back. They were apparently already light, but Teden Mengi came off in a recent friendly. Not sure if he’ll recover for us or if they’ll sign players that’ll come straight in this week but the are apparently week at LB and CH. So I’d set Koleosho on them and Benson second half, then pick an attacking line up to get at their CB’s.

[NewClaret]

He put in a brilliant cross in the first half, no one on the end of it

Was that the time the keeper was dispossessed? I thought it was a shot (or he should’ve shot).

Don’t get me wrong, I really like Anass but he’s nowhere near the starting 11 if Koleosho and Odobert are fit, for me. Was shocked to see him start (I’d have played Koleosho left and Benny right).

[Boss Hogg]

I've assumed that Trafford, Beyer, Berge, JBG, Ekdal, Al-Dakhil are unavailable for various reasons.

Hyladky
Roberts OShea Esteve Pires
Cullen Massengo
Odobert Brownhill Koleosho
Foster

This but Berge in for Massengo if he’s still here/ fit.

[CoolClaret]

I'd still like to see Beyer at fullback if he's fit - would also allow us to form a 3 in possession if/when desired.

[Clive 1960]

don't know what team he's likely to put out but just hope it's the strongest available..

[mkmel]

I think Luton have a few injury doubts. And in their friendlies their defence apparently has looked suspect. And no Ross Barkley of course.

[RVclaret]

We need experience and strength against a physically tough Luton team. (Look at how they equalised at Turf Moor last season.)

Hladky
Vitinho - O’Shea - Estève - Pires
Cullen - Brownhill
JBG - Berge - Zaroury
Foster

Bench : Trafford, Sambo, Benson, Massengo, Amdouni, Twine, Hountondji, Odobert, Beyer(if fit?)/Ekdal(again, if fit???)/McNally

Only 5 hg in here so your squad doesn’t meet the rules.

I was aware of the squad rule but not the Matchday squad rule. Is it not also U21’s which would then add a number in like Ageyi? Or is it 7 straight home grown?

McNally not home grown?

Yep match day squad rule is separate to squad of 25 with the u21s. They don’t have this rule in the Prem. 7 straight hg and McNally does not count as he wasn’t trained by a UK based club for 3 years before his 21st birthday. As people are finding out on this thread our squad is really low on them which is why I find adding a new keeper who isn’t hg a strange one.

[Lord_Bob]

Wow! It appears VK may have painted us into a corner with all these additions. Who was supposed to be overseeing all this and understanding the rules?
I don't think we should blame VK entirely, surely there should be some oversight and understanding of the rules and regulations?

And that may be why we have a coach and a DoF now??

[NewClaret]

Wow! It appears VK may have painted us into a corner with all these additions. Who was supposed to be overseeing all this and understanding the rules?
I don't think we should blame VK entirely, surely there should be some oversight and understanding of the rules and regulations?

And that may be why we have a coach and a DoF now??

We have a DoF now?!? Have I missed something?

[jedi_master]

—————————Hladky
Roberts——O’Shea—-Esteve——Pires
——————-Cullen-Brownhill
—Koleosho——--Amdouni——-Zaroury
——————————Foster

Subs: Whatever makes us able to legally select the team!

Reasoning: Amdouni is surely fully fit, he’s just been playing at the Euro’s. On paper he should be great at this level and I think he’s the natural selection for that role. Odobert looked a fish out of water in that pocket against Cadiz. Needless to say, if Berge was fit he’d be in there in a three man midfield in place of Amdouni with Brownhill further forward.

[claretskeith]

Hladky
Roberts O’Shea Esteve Pires
Cullen Berge
Koleosho Amdouni Odobert
Foster

[Newcastleclaret93]

Hladky
Roberts, O’Shea, Esteve, Pires
Cullen, Massengo
Benson, Brownhill, Odobert
Foster