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Post by ralph8 » Sun Aug 25, 2024 12:25 pm

If VK was in charge I wonder if he would have allowed all this to happen on his watch.

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Post by ClaretAndJew » Sun Aug 25, 2024 12:27 pm

Woodleyclaret wrote:
Sun Aug 25, 2024 12:21 pm
Koleosho owes us some loyalty after we nursed him through his injury
He is our only creative spark that teams can't handle.If he insists on moving we have to be looking at North of £30m with 25% resale.He is a massive talent also Wolves have £ 95m in recent sales
There is no loyalty in football.

And, most of these players came to play under Kompany. So there's even less of a reason for them to be here now.

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Post by Pearcey » Sun Aug 25, 2024 12:29 pm

ralph8 wrote:
Sun Aug 25, 2024 12:25 pm
If VK was in charge I wonder if he would have allowed all this to happen on his watch.
I think it’s happening because of his watch! What did Pace say on Mission to Burnley? Was it “I’ve been left with £200m of trouble that he picked”.

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Post by alwaysaclaret » Sun Aug 25, 2024 12:31 pm

Stproc wrote:
Sun Aug 25, 2024 11:39 am
The problem is in what is determined as value to the Club as this drives behaviours and activities.
The value to us fans is the football side of things, playing well, winning and being near the top of the table.
The value to Pace and co is just money, they will do anything for money at the detriment of the football. And here we are.
Absolutely spot on.

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Post by Steddyman » Sun Aug 25, 2024 12:32 pm

ralph8 wrote:
Sun Aug 25, 2024 12:25 pm
If VK was in charge I wonder if he would have allowed all this to happen on his watch.
If VK was still in charge, they'd have all left on the 1st of July.

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Post by claretskeith » Sun Aug 25, 2024 12:32 pm

Stproc wrote:
Sun Aug 25, 2024 11:39 am
The value to Pace and co is just money, they will do anything for money at the detriment of the football. And here we are.
Try and tell them how much we earn had we been promoted this season. It's not going to happen now, but what could have been.

We would have earned more.

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Post by BigGaz » Sun Aug 25, 2024 12:35 pm

Woodleyclaret wrote:
Sun Aug 25, 2024 12:21 pm
Koleosho owes us some loyalty after we nursed him through his injury
He is our only creative spark that teams can't handle.If he insists on moving we have to be looking at North of £30m with 25% resale.He is a massive talent also Wolves have £ 95m in recent sales
That's a line of thinking that just doesn't exist anymore. He owes us nothing and he'll be lining up for Wolves very shortly after they meet our valuation of him, if they indeed do so.

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Post by Stonehouse » Sun Aug 25, 2024 12:36 pm

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Sun Aug 25, 2024 10:30 am
On Saturday a spine of worrall, Esteve, cork and brownhill (if Cullen doesn’t make it) would do nicely against rovers
You mean Capt Brownhill who never turned up against Sunderland?

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Post by claretskeith » Sun Aug 25, 2024 12:36 pm

Stonehouse wrote:
Sun Aug 25, 2024 12:36 pm
You mean Capt Brownhill who never turned up against Sunderland?
Nobody turned up against Sunderland.
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Post by Oldparkwood » Sun Aug 25, 2024 12:40 pm

IMO we now need 5-6 players in within the next week.
2x wingers, 2x CM, 1x CF and possibly 1x left back. Anything less and I think we will struggle to finish top 2

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Post by Pickles » Sun Aug 25, 2024 12:43 pm

Oldparkwood wrote:
Sun Aug 25, 2024 12:40 pm
IMO we now need 5-6 players in within the next week.
2x wingers, 2x CM, 1x CF and possibly 1x left back. Anything less and I think we will struggle to finish top 2
Three. Central midfielder. Winger. Striker. Think that'll be okay and isn't unrealistic.

I feel like I've spent my entirety as a Burnley fan saying we need a centre mid.
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Post by 123EasyasBFC » Sun Aug 25, 2024 12:47 pm

Stonehouse wrote:
Sun Aug 25, 2024 12:36 pm
You mean Capt Brownhill who never turned up against Sunderland?
One guy who gets the importance of the game

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Post by AGENT_CLARET » Sun Aug 25, 2024 12:48 pm

Woodleyclaret wrote:
Sun Aug 25, 2024 12:21 pm
Koleosho owes us some loyalty after we nursed him through his injury
He is our only creative spark that teams can't handle.If he insists on moving we have to be looking at North of £30m with 25% resale.He is a massive talent also Wolves have £ 95m in recent sales
They might of got 95m in sales but there's no money at Wolves and I'd say they'll be lucky to spend 30m of that

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Post by Woodleyclaret » Sun Aug 25, 2024 12:52 pm

Personally I would like Traff gone to fetch funds in and us to demand top money for Luca and no sale if it's not coming.

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Post by PremierLeagueClass » Sun Aug 25, 2024 12:53 pm

I’ve got no problem with any of the players we’ve sold thus far. O’Shea is disappointing but it was going to be a big ask to keep both him and Esteve.

Whilst it’s led to a turbulent period, we’ve made significant profits on virtually all outgoings. This was always coming given the money we’ve laid out over the last two summers. It was extremely naive to think otherwise. With the outgoings all happening so late, there’s probably been a false sense of security generated as a result.

Yesterday was a perfect storm. When the dust settles this time next week, things will look a lot brighter.

That said, if we sell any one of Koloesho, Cullen or Brownhill this week, without quality replacements, I won’t be pleased.
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Post by 123EasyasBFC » Sun Aug 25, 2024 12:57 pm

These aren’t links or rumours but just a list of players I think we should be looking at (Alan if you are reading, not that you listen to anyone other than bulb head)

Cm/Am - Hannibal, Billing, Cundle, flemming, sheaf
Wingers - bruun Larsen, Whitaker, Sarmiento, Johnston, matondo, Anthony
Strikers - cannon, stansfield, akpom
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Post by ecc » Sun Aug 25, 2024 12:58 pm

I've read Wolves are limited in how much they can spend due to FFP. Don't know if that's true or whether the earth is round.

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Post by claretskeith » Sun Aug 25, 2024 12:59 pm

I have an idea. Don't sell Koleosho and give us a slim chance of finishing inside the top 6.

Crazy I know.
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Post by RVclaret » Sun Aug 25, 2024 1:06 pm

Woodleyclaret wrote:
Sun Aug 25, 2024 12:52 pm
Personally I would like Traff gone to fetch funds in and us to demand top money for Luca and no sale if it's not coming.
Fetch funds??? We’re already well over £100m, how much more do we need to fetch?
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Post by Andreshotboots » Sun Aug 25, 2024 1:07 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Sun Aug 25, 2024 1:06 pm
Fetch funds??? We’re already well over £100m, how much more do we need to fetch?
Lots more yet, Alan needs a new mansion..

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Post by Passing Clouds » Sun Aug 25, 2024 1:13 pm

I’m a sucker for punishment I know but a starting XI of…

Trafford

Roberts
Worral
Esteve
Bashir (don’t rate Pires)

Cullen
Brownhill

Vitinho
Amdouni
Koleosho

Foster

Still sounds v competitive in this league
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Post by midlands claret » Sun Aug 25, 2024 1:19 pm

why has no one made a bid for Foster ?
that would be ok

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Post by claretskeith » Sun Aug 25, 2024 1:19 pm

We need 7 new signings. Let's see what you can do.

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Post by Firthy » Sun Aug 25, 2024 1:20 pm

If we sell Koleosho and any other from our starting 11 we will end up mid table at best.

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Post by claretskeith » Sun Aug 25, 2024 1:20 pm

midlands claret wrote:
Sun Aug 25, 2024 1:19 pm
why has no one made a bid for Foster ?
that would be ok
Yeah it would be fantastic. We end up with no proper forward. Might as well eh.

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Post by claretskeith » Sun Aug 25, 2024 1:21 pm

Firthy wrote:
Sun Aug 25, 2024 1:20 pm
If we sell Koleosho and any other from our starting 11 we will end up mid table at best.
I currently have us as 6th. I agree with you though, if we sell him it's more like top 10.

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Post by UpTheClaretsFCBK » Sun Aug 25, 2024 1:21 pm

midlands claret wrote:
Sun Aug 25, 2024 1:19 pm
why has no one made a bid for Foster ?
that would be ok
Club's probably not willing to gamble on a player who's had a couple of mental breakdowns in the last two years. Not being horrible to Lyle, that's just the reality.
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Post by Rick_Muller » Sun Aug 25, 2024 1:21 pm

Firthy wrote:
Sun Aug 25, 2024 1:20 pm
If we sell Koleosho and any other from our starting 11 we will end up mid table at best.
I personally think that would be optimistic at best

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Post by lewishamclaret » Sun Aug 25, 2024 1:34 pm

I get that we've gone down, players are coming to terms with relegation clauses in their contracts, and we needed to dramatically manage down numbers over the summer. And that we'd have all of the normal nonsense at this stage of the window of agents/ clubs trying to unsettle players, unfounded rumours etc.

But this is all very worrying.

Scott's theoretically right that players should want to be at Burnley, otherwise they can leave. But there comes a point where we have to hold on to the bare bones of our squad to give us the best chance of going back up, for both sporting and financial reasons. That ultimately means not entertaining bids for a core group, even if it means they're a bit disgruntled and individuals end up winding contracts down. As per Sean with Tarky and a number of others. Ultimately our young players are professionals, and most should act professionally if they want a future in the game.
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Post by BabylonClaret » Sun Aug 25, 2024 1:34 pm

There are clearly more leaving - Parker said so.

I imagine we will lose at least 2 of
Weghorst
Koleosho
Amdouni
Vithino
Brownhill

For me we simply must hold onto Brownhill and Koleosho - I'm not convinced Amdouni is up for a season in the Champ.

We probably need at lest 3 coming in - winger, decent forward and a CM
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Post by claretskeith » Sun Aug 25, 2024 1:38 pm

BabylonClaret wrote:
Sun Aug 25, 2024 1:34 pm
There are clearly more leaving - Parker said so.

I imagine we will lose at least 2 of
Weghorst
Koleosho
Amdouni
Vithino
Brownhill

For me we simply must hold onto Brownhill and Koleosho - I'm not convinced Amdouni is up for a season in the Champ.

We probably need at lest 3 coming in - winger, decent forward and a CM
We are a top 6 side now. Let's forget top 2, that's not happening. You sell Koleosho and it's already top 10. You sell Amdouni, Brownhill and Vitinho and it's mid-table at very best. It's a bog-standard average Championship side.

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Post by BurnleyFC » Sun Aug 25, 2024 1:39 pm

Yup.


There’s potentially another £70m worth of outgoings still to shift yet.

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Post by ClaretOfMancunia » Sun Aug 25, 2024 1:39 pm

Amdouni has already been linked away by Fabrizio I think

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Post by Conroy92 » Sun Aug 25, 2024 1:39 pm

Passing Clouds wrote:
Sun Aug 25, 2024 1:13 pm
I’m a sucker for punishment I know but a starting XI of…

Trafford

Roberts
Worral
Esteve
Bashir (don’t rate Pires)

Cullen
Brownhill

Vitinho
Amdouni
Koleosho

Foster

Still sounds v competitive in this league
While I agree. If we lose one or two from it things look completely different. Id also argue in terms of progression there dosnt seem to be much with half of that team still being the side we fielded in this division two years ago.

Trafford Vs Muric debate has been done to death
Bellis and Maatsen likely better than Worral and Humphreys
All of Roberts Brownhill Cullen Foster Vitiniho were in this side two years ago.
I suspect Amdouni will go which leaves Koleosho, if we can retain him, as the only upgrade from two years ago.

And I've not even started including your likes of Benson, Zaraory, Tella. We are now considerably weaker than we were two years ago at this level. That's a worry.

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Post by 123EasyasBFC » Sun Aug 25, 2024 1:42 pm

BabylonClaret wrote:
Sun Aug 25, 2024 1:34 pm
There are clearly more leaving - Parker said so.

I imagine we will lose at least 2 of
Weghorst
Koleosho
Amdouni
Vithino
Brownhill

For me we simply must hold onto Brownhill and Koleosho - I'm not convinced Amdouni is up for a season in the Champ.

We probably need at lest 3 coming in - winger, decent forward and a CM
There’s only benson and weghorst to add to al-dakhil that we know are leaving. Then you have links with McNally, Vitinho, Amdouni and koleosho.

We could actually still keep the last 3 and replace with 3 or 4 and the squad suddenly looks better again with Redmond Ramsey tresor Ekdal and Beyer to come back to

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Post by claretskeith » Sun Aug 25, 2024 1:47 pm

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Sun Aug 25, 2024 1:42 pm
There’s only benson and weghorst to add to al-dakhil that we know are leaving. Then you have links with McNally, Vitinho, Amdouni and koleosho.

We could actually still keep the last 3 and replace with 3 or 4 and the squad suddenly looks better again with Redmond Ramsey tresor Ekdal and Beyer to come back to
No news or rumours about incoming players. It's all about outgoings.
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Post by Conroy92 » Sun Aug 25, 2024 1:48 pm

BabylonClaret wrote:
Sun Aug 25, 2024 1:34 pm
There are clearly more leaving - Parker said so.

I imagine we will lose at least 2 of
Weghorst
Koleosho
Amdouni
Vithino
Brownhill

For me we simply must hold onto Brownhill and Koleosho - I'm not convinced Amdouni is up for a season in the Champ.

We probably need at lest 3 coming in - winger, decent forward and a CM
A very realistic part of me thinks that Brownhills contract means he'll be off., weghorst will be off and Amdouni will be off. Part of me thinks we know Koleosho going is suicide and unless it's a massive bid it's not happening. Vitiniho is anyone's guess.

What's clear to me, keeping Koleosho alone is not enough, we need a couple of others to stay. I think we are lucky Ramsey is out. I am glad he's staying, baring any major set backs I think he'll be an asset in this league.

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Post by 123EasyasBFC » Sun Aug 25, 2024 1:49 pm

claretskeith wrote:
Sun Aug 25, 2024 1:47 pm
No news or rumours about incoming players. It's all about outgoings.
There will be incomings on the background there has to be, there has been many occasions where we haven’t known about players and then the link arrives, we didn’t know about assignon till around 9am on deadline day last Jan
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Post by claretskeith » Sun Aug 25, 2024 1:52 pm

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Sun Aug 25, 2024 1:49 pm
There will be incomings on the background there has to be, there has been many occasions where we haven’t known about players and then the link arrives, we didn’t know about assignon till around 9am on deadline day last Jan
I'm looking forward to these. I currently have it at around 7 players needed. And 2 of them need to be like Odobert and Koleosho.

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Post by Firthy » Sun Aug 25, 2024 1:53 pm

Rick_Muller wrote:
Sun Aug 25, 2024 1:21 pm
I personally think that would be optimistic at best
I'm trying to remain positive 🤔😁
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Post by taio » Sun Aug 25, 2024 1:57 pm

claretskeith wrote:
Sun Aug 25, 2024 1:52 pm
I'm looking forward to these. I currently have it at around 7 players needed. And 2 of them need to be like Odobert and Koleosho.
We don't need seven players as it stands. We will have a much reduced squad size, so the focus needs to be on getting the right players, rather than a certain number of players. That said, who knows what the next few days will bring.

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Post by 123EasyasBFC » Sun Aug 25, 2024 1:58 pm

claretskeith wrote:
Sun Aug 25, 2024 1:52 pm
I'm looking forward to these. I currently have it at around 7 players needed. And 2 of them need to be like Odobert and Koleosho.
We don’t have 7 spaces in the squad even if all the linked players leave.

If we keep amoundi, brownhill and Vitinho but well weghorst, benson, al-dakhil and McNally we would still only have 4 squad places for players over 21. Any loans regardless of age have to be registered to.

So if you want 7 signings more would have to leave

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Post by claretskeith » Sun Aug 25, 2024 2:01 pm

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Sun Aug 25, 2024 1:58 pm
We don’t have 7 spaces in the squad even if all the linked players leave.

If we keep amoundi, brownhill and Vitinho but well weghorst, benson, al-dakhil and McNally we would still only have 4 squad places for players over 21. Any loans regardless of age have to be registered to.

So if you want 7 signings more would have to leave
The game against Sunderland needed 7 subs. And sure, the 7 would include home-grown players if needed.

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Post by Cap » Sun Aug 25, 2024 2:02 pm

Where's LongsideClaret to provide so insight as to what's going on? 😅

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Post by mdd2 » Sun Aug 25, 2024 2:02 pm

Looking like Koleosho will be off to Wolves

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Post by RicardoMontalban » Sun Aug 25, 2024 2:03 pm

Cap wrote:
Sun Aug 25, 2024 2:02 pm
Where's LongsideClaret to provide so insight as to what's going on? 😅
Sold?
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Post by gandhisflipflop » Sun Aug 25, 2024 2:06 pm

mdd2 wrote:
Sun Aug 25, 2024 2:02 pm
Looking like Koleosho will be off to Wolves
I will be fuming if we sold him

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Re: Summer 2024 Transfer Window Discussion - Rumours and Links welcome

Post by fatboy47 » Sun Aug 25, 2024 2:07 pm

mdd2 wrote:
Sun Aug 25, 2024 2:02 pm
Looking like Koleosho will be off to Wolves
If that happens you'll need to go back to the days of Cotterball to find a time when we'd so little attacking threat.

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Re: Summer 2024 Transfer Window Discussion - Rumours and Links welcome

Post by 123EasyasBFC » Sun Aug 25, 2024 2:09 pm

claretskeith wrote:
Sun Aug 25, 2024 2:01 pm
The game against Sunderland needed 7 subs. And sure, the 7 would include home-grown players if needed.
That’s got nothing to do with what you said, you said we need 7 players but we don’t have 7 spaces in the squad unless more leave
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Re: Summer 2024 Transfer Window Discussion - Rumours and Links welcome

Post by 123EasyasBFC » Sun Aug 25, 2024 2:10 pm

mdd2 wrote:
Sun Aug 25, 2024 2:02 pm
Looking like Koleosho will be off to Wolves
What’s made you think that

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