James Trafford

[CoolClaret]

He was fine today bar the opening error, I certainly do not buy that he's not happy to be here, did you see him barking orders out for the free kick at the end?

Oh and running the length of the pitch away at Luton to celebrate with his teammates... That's not a sign of someone unhappy.

I was very critical of him last year, partly because I didn't think he did anything to warrant his selection but literally everyone has a clean slate coming into this year.

[123EasyasBFC]

He was fine today bar the opening error, I certainly do not buy that he's not happy to be here, did you see him barking orders out for the free kick at the end?

Oh and running the length of the pitch away at Luton to celebrate with his teammates... That's not a sign of someone unhappy.

I was very critical of him last year, partly because I didn't think he did anything to warrant his selection but literally everyone has a clean slate coming into this year.

At that free kick he was trying to organise the Burnley wall to what would affect their keeper the most

[beeholeclaret]

He keeps making mistakes and people keep jumping in to big him up.. they just need reminding of the numerous flaws and errors.

Hopefully he will go to Newcastle in January for a ridiculous fee and that’s the end of it.

You possibly need reminding that supporters ‘support’.

Constant criticism wears people down and doesn’t achieve anything really. Yes we all have our opinions on things but constant one sided agenda driven views don’t help.

[chipbutty]

I can't believe he didn't catch the strike for the Rovers goal then dribble it all the way up the other end before slamming it into the top corner from 40 yards. Other than his god awful pass early doors he did nothing wrong

He nearly got lobbed after giving the ball away after 29 seconds to our biggest rivals.

[Foshiznik]

People complain that he’s getting too much support yet are the same people who defended Muric who did much bigger blunders that resulted in goals last season… is it that hard to be consistent or just support your team?

[GetIntoEm]

Showed real commitment today, top lad. Glad he's our keeper

[dsr]

I'd rather start with Hladky.

Is this the Hladky who came out for a cross feet first and missed it, on Wednesday? Don't fall for the hype about goalkeepers who never make mistakes. They all do it, some more often than others.

[Quickenthetempo]

Trafford isn't good enough to play for Burnley in goal. The goal wasn't his fault but while he plays, the opposition will shoot from anywhere.

[RVclaret]

Sound today. More than good enough to play for us. Will be the best keeper in the league.

[Wembley09]

Is this the Hladky who came out for a cross feet first and missed it, on Wednesday? Don't fall for the hype about goalkeepers who never make mistakes. They all do it, some more often than others.

Started every Championship game for Ipswich last season, so he did something right.

Then again, Muric started almost every game for us during the promotion season. From an outside view that looks good, but he had a few dodgy showings, especially from set pieces.

So who knows with goal keepers. But it would be nice to have a solid number 1 again like the Tom Heaton and then Nick Pope days.

[Vegas Claret]

He nearly got lobbed after giving the ball away after 29 seconds to our biggest rivals.

did you struggle with the last sentence ? What did you think I was referring to ?

[pushpinpussy]

I think Traffs is looking more confident and assured this season already. Might be something to do with him not having to make 15-20 saves a game and pick the ball out the net 3-4 times a game. Give this young lad a chance. Its no coincidence that he is linked with a lot of big clubs and is on the verge of the England set up. Goalkeeping coaches who watch him play and train obviously like what they see.

[Superjohnnyfrancis]

The proof of the pudding is how many clean sheets he keeps during the season.

Pace has probably told Parker to play him because he wants to sell him in January.

The Ipswich keeper is better I would say more composed and mature.

We have sold our number one and gained a number one why not play him?

[IanMcL]

He made 1 save. 1 which was fired straight at him

Positionally was off it again and his distribution is woeful, nearly gave away a goal in the first couple of mins.

Apart from that had nothing to do. That’s not the sign of a good goalkeeper having “moments” in a game with not much to do.

Hes a hype job

For someone who has people constantly saying how good he is with his feet, I would prefer Nick Pope!

Agree with your analysis.

Like all young keepers, he has potential. That's it at present.

[AlargeClaret]

His distribution was actually rather good with pin point longish balls ( under instruction no doubt) throws ,and tidy passing when needed . Though after he cleared the dreaded awkward “ trigger kick “ ball which are 50/50 regardless , he should have turned back a fraction earlier rather than watching where the ball went , which almost has him lobbed .
Their goal was an absolute cracker JT stood no chance and if he’d been on his line at that second of play , he’d have been out of position for where the play was .

However Id still like Hladky given a run . Bit suprised JT wasn’t loaned out tbh .

[Quicknick]

I think Hladky is the better keeper.

[Quicknick]

Is this the Hladky who came out for a cross feet first and missed it, on Wednesday? Don't fall for the hype about goalkeepers who never make mistakes. They all do it, some more often than others.

Of course they all make mistakes.

[HurstGrangeClaret]

Think the jury is still out re JT’s ability but he’s our keeper and when he’s in our goal, we need to back him to the hilt.

[Row x]

I thought this sort of thread would disappear once Muric left

[Shaggy]

Think the jury is still out re JT’s ability but he’s our keeper and when he’s in our goal, we need to back him to the hilt.

Nobody doesn’t back him when he’s playing though, but there no reason at all to not be critical of his errors and mistakes he constantly makes on a forum.

The thing is for £18m I’m expecting a world beater, when in reality all we have is a nervous and weak U21 player who’s only really proven at L1 level.

If he was signed for a couple of million and either loaned out or was used as an understudy to a more experienced keeper then he would be cut a lot more slack. As it is there’s too many people desperate to prove that he is the real deal when he hasn’t looked remotely close to it.

What’s happened to Gavin Bazunu? Another alleged superstar. From citeh’s youth academy.

[Rileybobs]

As it is there’s too many people desperate to prove that he is the real deal when he hasn’t looked remotely close to it.

It’s pretty clear that the exact opposite is true.

[Row x]

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The thing is for £18m I’m expecting a world beater, when in reality all we have is a nervous and weak U21 player who’s only really proven at L1 level.

We haven't paid 18m

You don't get world beaters for 18m

[getbennyon]

He looked the same insecure, indecisive keeper we've had for the last 12 months but the opposition is about as weak as he has faced so got a bit of a free pass.

He doesn't inspire any confidence and it would've been better all round had he moved clubs in the window.

[Wokingclaret]

He's 21, we've never had a 20/21 year old GoalKeeper make it at Burnley since probably the 70s, maybe not even then.

He needs this full season in the Championship to make him and hopefully with our new GoalKeeping Coach he will improve and we can then get our 20 million bucks for him.

[Superjohnnyfrancis]

I thought this sort of thread would disappear once Muric left

This thread disappeared once Muric was back in the team , here we are again.

The £16m bid should have been accepted from Newcastle.

[alwaysaclaret]

I thought this sort of thread would disappear once Muric left

Will only disappear once he's in he's rightful place, and it's certainly not in the Championship

[Culmclaret]

I think the best you can say is that he was OK yesterday. Weimann obviously knew he was prone to wandering a bit far from his line, hence the lob in the opening seconds. Whether it entered his mind when having a go with that volley, who knows. It was a great hit very reminiscent of Steve Thomapson’s at Reading, albeit slightly further out. After that, other than the right flap he made after saving from Dolan in the second half, he was relatively trouble free. His distribution was no better than average.

[alwaysaclaret]

We haven't paid 18m

You don't get world beaters for 18m

No, but we've paid about £14m more than we should have, and keep playing him will eventually result in that figure increasing, although can't ever imagine it will get to the maximum £19m

[alwaysaclaret]

I think Hladky is the better keeper.

Although it wouldn't be difficult, the evidence tells us hladky did something right at Ipswich

[alwaysaclaret]

It's rather telling imo that given that 20 players left the club and he was supposedly linked to other club's yet he's still here.

[dsr]

I think the best you can say is that he was OK yesterday. Weimann obviously knew he was prone to wandering a bit far from his line, hence the lob in the opening seconds. Whether it entered his mind when having a go with that volley, who knows. It was a great hit very reminiscent of Steve Thomapson’s at Reading, albeit slightly further out. After that, other than the right flap he made after saving from Dolan in the second half, he was relatively trouble free. His distribution was no better than average.

I'm certain that Weimann would have expected that Trafford would not be standing at the back post when he scored yesterday. Very few goalkeepers stand at the back post when a shot might be coming, and those that do don't last long because they would let too many goals in at the near post.

[Robbie_painter]

Will only disappear once he's in he's rightful place, and it's certainly not in the Championship

What a shitty comment.

[ClaretAL]

It may be the legendary 75% clause keeping him in.

[Kitch1966]

As much as I agree that Trafford has a lot of improving to do, nobody can seriously blame him for Weimann's goal surely? !
We should take yesterday's result on the chin and move on instead of looking for a scapegoat. UTC!

[GetIntoEm]

I think he's done alright when he's played this season so far. Should be our number 1. He's the best keeper we've got

[kentonclaret]

If some posters are blaming Trafford for getting beaten by the Weimann volley yesterday then they will find a way to blame him for every goal that we concede this season.

As for the accusations that Trafford was standing off his goal line area that is where most keepers are stationed in the modern game. Whilst the ball is in general play many are standing outside of the D.

[AGENT_CLARET]

If some posters are blaming Trafford for getting beaten by the Weimann volley yesterday then they will find a way to blame him for every goal that we concede this season.

As for the accusations that Trafford was standing off his goal line area that is where most keepers are stationed in the modern game. Whilst the ball is in general play many are standing outside of the D.

It's a weakness of his because team's work on it, Billing mentioned it after he lobbed him 40 yards when we played Bournemouth

[Robbie_painter]

It's a weakness of his because team's work on it, Billing mentioned it after he lobbed him 40 yards when we played Bournemouth

Are you really saying Trafford was at fault for their goal yesterday?

[boatshed bill]

It's a weakness of his because team's work on it, Billing mentioned it after he lobbed him 40 yards when we played Bournemouth

It wasn't a lob.
But I'd guess most teams would encourage their players to try to hit long shots over the opposing 'keeper.
Nothing in this.

[Clarets4me]

Not a keeper in the world would have saved Weimann's shot except perhaps John Osbourne of West Brom back in the 70's, who may have been keeping his Players No.6 in a canvas bag, in the back of the net and been on the goal-line puffing on a " gasper " at the time ...

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[Swizzlestick]

He doesn’t fill me with a whole lot of confidence tbh and can sometimes feed uncertainty.

Grew in the game though, made a decent save, and no blame for the goal which was just a bit of a worldie. Hoping a run in the team at this level calms things down and he can develop a good relationship with the back line.

[Herts Clarets]

Trafford's starting position for their goal was 3 yards from his line, so not wandering or stood at the back post as has been suggested. No keeper stops that shot and let's be honest, if Weimann hit that shot 20 times, 10 shots would land in the stand, 5 would go straight into the keeper's hands, 4 would bobble wide of the goal and 1 would fly into the top corner. Unfortunately he hit the one into the top corner on Saturday.

Sometimes you just have to accept a player has scored a very good goal and there was nothing the keeper could have done to stop it.

[kentonclaret]

The Ipswich keeper is better I would say more composed and mature.

Hladky is 33 years old and Trafford is 21 years old so he is definitely more mature but Trafford is the future.

[Culmclaret]

Trafford's starting position for their goal was 3 yards from his line, so not wandering or stood at the back post as has been suggested. No keeper stops that shot and let's be honest, if Weimann hit that shot 20 times, 10 shots would land in the stand, 5 would go straight into the keeper's hands, 4 would bobble wide of the goal and 1 would fly into the top corner. Unfortunately he hit the one into the top corner on Saturday.

Sometimes you just have to accept a player has scored a very good goal and there was nothing the keeper could have done to stop it.

Fair point. And I don’t think anyone would have stopped that shot, but the incident in the first 15 seconds was not good goalkeeping. It was a terrible pass and he has form for being caught off his line which I am sure Rovers would have been aware of. I hope he becomes a good keeper but he is as yet an average Championship keeper at best. That said, he has some hard acts to follow as we were spoilt in this position for a number of years.

[aggi]

It's rather telling imo that given that 20 players left the club and he was supposedly linked to other club's yet he's still here.

Yes, clearly the one that the owners thought they could make a lot of money on when he progresses so worth keeping rather than letting go for a low price (I assume that's what you meant).

[alwaysaclaret]

Yes, clearly the one that the owners thought they could make a lot of money on when he progresses so worth keeping rather than letting go for a low price (I assume that's what you meant).

OMG !!! He's clearly still here because no manager or club in their right minds wants him, he's the worst excuse of a goalkeeper I've ever seen, some people need to open their eyes, if he's continued to be played will cost us points, just like he did last season.

[boatshed bill]

If one decides to target a particular player and look for every little (perceived) error they will find them.
i've done it, not that i'm particularly proud of it.
The constant scrutiny of Trafford is unreasonable, almost obsessive.

[alwaysaclaret]

If one decides to target a particular player and look for every little (perceived) error they will find them.
i've done it, not that i'm particularly proud of it.
The constant scrutiny of Trafford is unreasonable, almost obsessive.

Aye reyt !!

[Claretnick]

OMG !!! He's clearly still here because no manager or club in their right minds wants him, he's the worst excuse of a goalkeeper I've ever seen, some people need to open their eyes, if he's continued to be played will cost us points, just like he did last season.

What an utterly despicable and shameful way to describe a 21 year old Burnley player.

[bfcmik]

OMG !!! He's clearly still here because no manager or club in their right minds wants him, he's the worst excuse of a goalkeeper I've ever seen, some people need to open their eyes, if he's continued to be played will cost us points, just like he did last season.

What the f***? He is the current England u21 keeper who was called up in the extended squad for pre-Euros training with the main England team. Not bad for someone who is " ... the worst excuse of a goalkeeper I've ever seen ...".

Is he already a great keeper? No. Is he a really good keeper? No. But he is a decent keeper who is still very young and has a massive potential, which may or may not be realised. It may come as a shock to someone with your goalkeeper scouting nous, but the 'great' goalkeepers around always seem to have the best defenders playing in front of them. Jordan Pickford is a genuine contrast for example. Playing for Everton he is just a decent keeper with a very leaky defence in front of him and therefore concedes lots of goals from the abundance of efforts on goal, whilst, when playing for England, he looks very good because of how few shots he has to stop.