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Re: Foster

Post by Elizabeth » Sat Oct 05, 2024 5:28 pm

Totally dominated by their centre half with ease today which disappointed me as I thought strength was one of his few qualities. It's true he's not getting chances but the one time near the end when we needed sharpness from him he fell short.
I think the only quality he has is running into space with the wall so effectively in this set up he is impotent.

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Re: Foster

Post by blatherwickstattoos » Sat Oct 05, 2024 5:36 pm

Having played lone striker at a level a lot lower I feel for him. But …. I was always told make yourself available and run the channels. He doesn’t at all. There’s nothing infront of the defence and midfield at all. Especially with a compact spoiler team setting up and back 5. Parker really needs to sort it out. Foster has never scored more than 10 goals in a season . It’s worrying
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Re: Foster

Post by Shaggy » Sat Oct 05, 2024 6:07 pm

Foster isn’t cut out to be a striker, he doesn’t have the movement or knack of being in the right place at the right time. Hes a left sided inside forward at a push.

Unfortunately Jay Rod is also completely shot physically. Hes too static to play as a solo striker also. Our only hope is Flemming until January if Parker insists on playing this way. We should be looking for a replacement now and not fanny around in January.

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Re: Foster

Post by Ric_C » Sat Oct 05, 2024 6:13 pm

He's not making himself a nuisance when the chips are down, I don't think their centre back will have an easier afternoon all season.

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Re: Foster

Post by Hapag Lloyd » Sat Oct 05, 2024 6:15 pm

Lip wrote:
Sat Oct 05, 2024 2:52 pm
Foster was our best player today,shows how bad we are..
Shoulda gone to spec savers.
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Re: Foster

Post by Mark the Claret » Sat Oct 05, 2024 6:18 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Sat Oct 05, 2024 5:07 pm
I love threads like this, quickly weeds out the posters that know anything about football.

Funnily enough it’s the same posters that were slating Wood and praising signings like Weghorst haha
I'd rather have Weghorst than Foster.
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Re: Foster

Post by Elizabeth » Sat Oct 05, 2024 6:26 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Sat Oct 05, 2024 5:07 pm
I love threads like this, quickly weeds out the posters that know anything about football.

Funnily enough it’s the same posters that were slating Wood and praising signings like Weghorst haha
You are a one man crusade

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Re: Foster

Post by willsclarets » Sat Oct 05, 2024 6:42 pm

Mark the Claret wrote:
Sat Oct 05, 2024 6:18 pm
I'd rather have Weghorst than Foster.
I don't agree with the amount of stick Foster I'd getting, particularly today. But in this system, Weghorst is much more the profile of player we needi
if we're going to stick with it.

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Re: Foster

Post by Steve-Harpers-perm » Sat Oct 05, 2024 6:45 pm

I’ve watched him for long enough now he just doesn’t offer enough at all. He’s not going to score the goals required and he is weak at holding the ball up plus doesn’t make any runs. Big mistake not signing a couple of strikers in the summer. Still he had a great game at Villa once.
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Re: Foster

Post by Dark Cloud » Sat Oct 05, 2024 6:48 pm

I have tried to defend him (in my own mind) wondering if he's isolated and left too much on his own. After today I've realised he's really actually not very good. (Sadly!)

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Re: Foster

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Sat Oct 05, 2024 7:00 pm

Mark the Claret wrote:
Sat Oct 05, 2024 6:18 pm
I'd rather have Weghorst than Foster.
🤦‍♂️

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Re: Foster

Post by elwaclaret » Sat Oct 05, 2024 7:14 pm

Not sure how todays game changes anyone’s opinion on Foster. We know his strengths to be charging runs carrying the ball or outpacing centre-halves and finishing. How can we criticise him for looking poor with a slow/plodding build up and no quality into the box? He has simply been a square peg in a round hole up front most of this season so far. Jay Rod would be far more suited to playing the role Foster is being asked to perform.

If our approach play was more aggressive and fast moving I think a. We’d see a dangerous finisher b. Him showing he can link with forwards breaking the lines.

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Re: Foster

Post by Steve-Harpers-perm » Sat Oct 05, 2024 7:19 pm

elwaclaret wrote:
Sat Oct 05, 2024 7:14 pm
Not sure how todays game changes anyone’s opinion on Foster. We know his strengths to be charging runs carrying the ball or outpacing centre-halves and finishing. How can we criticise him for looking poor with a slow/plodding build up and no quality into the box? He has simply been a square peg in a round hole up front most of this season so far. Jay Rod would be far more suited to playing the role Foster is being asked to perform.

If our approach play was more aggressive and fast moving I think a. We’d see a dangerous finisher b. Him showing he can link with forwards breaking the lines.
Charging runs, Outpacing centre halves and finishing???

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Re: Foster

Post by elwaclaret » Sat Oct 05, 2024 7:22 pm

Steve-Harpers-perm wrote:
Sat Oct 05, 2024 7:19 pm
Charging runs, Outpacing centre halves and finishing???
Where was there anything to run onto? Where did we find him facing goal with room to move into in front of him? Where did we look to find him attacking the six yard box?

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Re: Foster

Post by Alan Young » Sat Oct 05, 2024 7:40 pm

I’m in the camp that thought Foster was awful today. Gave us nothing in terms of movement, pressing, showing for the ball etc however the way we’re set up doesn’t help him.

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Re: Foster

Post by deanothedino » Sat Oct 05, 2024 7:43 pm

Lip wrote:
Sat Oct 05, 2024 2:52 pm
Foster was our best player today,shows how bad we are..
I find it hard to believe you saw the game. Totally ineffective. If he put as much effort in to playing as he does going down too easily maybe we’d have a half decent player.

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Re: Foster

Post by ksrclaret » Sat Oct 05, 2024 7:46 pm

Compare Foster to their big lump today, Emil Riis. Their's was getting down the sides of our centre halves, making runs in behind, and generally linking up well with midfield. Okay, Esteve who's a monster centre half at this level ate him up on most occasions, but he was offering something.

Foster was offering absolutely nothing.
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Re: Foster

Post by deanothedino » Sat Oct 05, 2024 7:46 pm

Pickles wrote:
Sat Oct 05, 2024 4:57 pm
Foster was the best player in claret and blue today. Other than Estéve obviously, who is far too good for this league.

Foster's hold up play was a big improvement from Tuesday night and he ran with pace with the ball before playing it out wide. He's also the only one of the front three who consistently presses.

The criticism he receives feels a bit over the top. He does spend too much time flopping about on the floor but then so did Barnes. Any analysis of him has to take into consideration the way we play and the service he gets.
Do you class hold up play as being repeatedly beaten to the ball or if you make it there first allowing it bounce off you in a random direction?

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Re: Foster

Post by Aclaret » Sat Oct 05, 2024 7:53 pm

He's playing for us so I won't slate him.
Not sure if we have anything better up front...Jay Rod ? Don't think so.
Foster certainly puts the hard yards in, coming back to half way for the ball and out on the left wing in the 1st half.
For me, he plays with his back to goal to much....
Playing under Parkers instructions no doubt.
I still think Lyle Foster is a good footballer.

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Re: Foster

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Sat Oct 05, 2024 8:00 pm

ksrclaret wrote:
Sat Oct 05, 2024 7:46 pm
Compare Foster to their big lump today, Emil Riis. Their's was getting down the sides of our centre halves, making runs in behind, and generally linking up well with midfield. Okay, Esteve who's a monster centre half at this level ate him up on most occasions, but he was offering something.

Foster was offering absolutely nothing.
These arguments have been going on about our strikers for years.

Wood was made out to be a premier slogger and his time in the premier league done (many on this page said we robbed Newcastle with 20m we recieved for him). Look at him now three years later and he’s still bagging for fun in the premier league.

Striker require one of two things. A system that suits them or good service. Foster is getting neither at the moment. As we saw in the prem he suits a system of counter attacking football (where he got 8 goal contributions in 24 games). We are clearly not going to play that way in the championship given the quality of opposition, so the only other option is to dramatically improve the service he is getting, which at the moment Koleosho can’t pass a ball in the final third, Anthony looks very one dimensional and Mejbri is just not that type of player.

The introduction of Flemming as a ten should really improve Foster’s chances
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Re: Foster

Post by beddie » Sat Oct 05, 2024 8:01 pm

Let’s be honest the majority of our team didn’t play well so it’s hard to criticise Foster today. I just wish he’d stop looking as though he’s been shot every time he gets a tackle.

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Re: Foster

Post by ksrclaret » Sat Oct 05, 2024 8:03 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Sat Oct 05, 2024 8:00 pm
These arguments have been going on about our strikers for years.

Wood has made out to be a premier slogger and his time in the premier league done (many on this page said we robbed Newcastle with 20m we recieved for him). Look at him now three years later and he’s still bagging for fun in the premier league.

Striker require one of two things. A system that suits them or good service. Foster is getting neither at the moment. As we saw in the prem he suits a system of counter attacking football (where he got 8 goal contributions in 24 games). We are clearly not going to play that way in the championship given the quality of opposition, so the only other option is to dramatically improve the service he is getting, which at the moment Koleosho can’t pass a ball in the final third, Anthony looks very one dimensional and Mejbri is just not that type of player.

The introduction of Flemming as a ten should really improve Foster’s chances
Stop blaming everything and everyone but him. He's got to offer runs in behind or into the channels. Simple as that.

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Re: Foster

Post by oswyclaret » Sat Oct 05, 2024 8:06 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Sat Oct 05, 2024 2:48 pm
Foster did what he can today and worked his arse off, more so than most of the others in my view. He’s too flat footed in the box to score many with this football though.
Thats when he can get there!!!

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Re: Foster

Post by Boroclaret » Sat Oct 05, 2024 8:11 pm

He wasn't great today, but at times he played exactly to instructions. He occupied the Centre Half but was totally isolated and neither Hannibal or any of our wingers got near him.

It's no surprise that Parker won promotion with both Mitrovic and Solanke as a Striker who occupied centre backs and was on the end of crosses. We're set up like this, but it's not Foster's game. We need to get people alongside him and change the set-up or we'll carry on as we are.

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Re: Foster

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Sat Oct 05, 2024 8:13 pm

ksrclaret wrote:
Sat Oct 05, 2024 8:03 pm
Stop blaming everything and everyone but him. He's got to offer runs in behind or into the channels. Simple as that.
Re watch today, he did on numerous occasions our lads just simply couldn’t find him.

Im not blaming everyone, but a lot of the issues with Foster, Mejbri, Koleosho are system based. Simply stating Foster is crap like many on here are, is purely just nonsense.

Our fortunes going forward will dramatically improve when the system does. Clear as day where our issues lie.

Our lack of right back for the last few games (not including second half today because the ref ruined it) has really effected the right winger, there’s no one to overlap so he is constantly being marked by two players. Mejbri has been filling in as a ten whilst Flemming gets fit, he’s a good grafter but he’s not the type to create anything so our attacking output in centre of the pitch is poor.

I really rate Cullen especially at this level but he has also struggled to grab midfields and retain the ball, I am hoping the introduction of Flemming in the ten will allow Brownhill to step back and assist Cullen in retaining the ball.

I think people need to calm down a little, I don’t think we have actually seen Parker’s best eleven yet. Let’s give it a little time, let him the make the relevant tweaks when everyone is fit and watch the improvement.

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Re: Foster

Post by 123EasyasBFC » Sat Oct 05, 2024 8:16 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Sat Oct 05, 2024 8:13 pm
Re watch today, he did on numerous occasions our lads just simply couldn’t find him.

Im not blaming everyone, but a lot of the issues with Foster, Mejbri, Koleosho are system based. Simply stating Foster is crap like many on here are, is purely just nonsense.

Our fortunes going forward will dramatically improve when the system does. Clear as day where our issues lie.

Our lack of right back for the last few games (not including second half today because the ref ruined it) has really effected the right winger, there’s no one to overlap so he is constantly being marked by two players. Mejbri has been filling in as a ten whilst Flemming gets fit, he’s a good grafter but he’s not the type to create anything so our attacking output in centre of the pitch is poor.

I really rate Cullen especially at this level but he has also struggled to grab midfields and retain the ball, I am hoping the introduction of Flemming in the ten will allow Brownhill to step back and assist Cullen in retaining the ball.

I think people need to calm down a little, I don’t think we have actually seen Parker’s best eleven yet. Let’s give it a little time, let him the make the relevant tweaks when everyone is fit and watch the improvement.
We certainly haven’t seen Parker’s best 11 since the window closed and maybe the inexperience in the back 4 is why we are being over cautious in games

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Re: Foster

Post by forzagranata » Sat Oct 05, 2024 8:22 pm

He looks lost - positional play is miles off which is a real problem when he is playing as the sole striker.

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Re: Foster

Post by ksrclaret » Sat Oct 05, 2024 8:22 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Sat Oct 05, 2024 8:13 pm
Re watch today, he did on numerous occasions our lads just simply couldn’t find him.

Im not blaming everyone, but a lot of the issues with Foster, Mejbri, Koleosho are system based. Simply stating Foster is crap like many on here are, is purely just nonsense.

Our fortunes going forward will dramatically improve when the system does. Clear as day where our issues lie.

Our lack of right back for the last few games (not including second half today because the ref ruined it) has really effected the right winger, there’s no one to overlap so he is constantly being marked by two players. Mejbri has been filling in as a ten whilst Flemming gets fit, he’s a good grafter but he’s not the type to create anything so our attacking output in centre of the pitch is poor.

I really rate Cullen especially at this level but he has also struggled to grab midfields and retain the ball, I am hoping the introduction of Flemming in the ten will allow Brownhill to step back and assist Cullen in retaining the ball.

I think people need to calm down a little, I don’t think we have actually seen Parker’s best eleven yet. Let’s give it a little time, let him the make the relevant tweaks when everyone is fit and watch the improvement.
The system strangles the life out of us as an attacking force, evidenced by us having 1 shot on target against a poor Preston team at home. Any system will look better with better players, but people are understandably fed up with the insipid stuff we served up today.

Back to Foster though. Not many, if any, have stated Foster is crap. They've said he doesn't offer anywhere near enough, which is absolutely fair.

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Re: Foster

Post by KRBFC » Sat Oct 05, 2024 9:02 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Sat Oct 05, 2024 8:13 pm
Re watch today, he did on numerous occasions our lads just simply couldn’t find him.

Im not blaming everyone, but a lot of the issues with Foster, Mejbri, Koleosho are system based. Simply stating Foster is crap like many on here are, is purely just nonsense.

Our fortunes going forward will dramatically improve when the system does. Clear as day where our issues lie.

Our lack of right back for the last few games (not including second half today because the ref ruined it) has really effected the right winger, there’s no one to overlap so he is constantly being marked by two players. Mejbri has been filling in as a ten whilst Flemming gets fit, he’s a good grafter but he’s not the type to create anything so our attacking output in centre of the pitch is poor.

I really rate Cullen especially at this level but he has also struggled to grab midfields and retain the ball, I am hoping the introduction of Flemming in the ten will allow Brownhill to step back and assist Cullen in retaining the ball.

I think people need to calm down a little, I don’t think we have actually seen Parker’s best eleven yet. Let’s give it a little time, let him the make the relevant tweaks when everyone is fit and watch the improvement.
Foster had 6 months in the one of the best Championship sides of all time and what did he do then?

Did that system not suit him either? He was just as shite

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Re: Foster

Post by CoolClaret » Sat Oct 05, 2024 9:04 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Sat Oct 05, 2024 8:00 pm
These arguments have been going on about our strikers for years.

Wood was made out to be a premier slogger and his time in the premier league done (many on this page said we robbed Newcastle with 20m we recieved for him). Look at him now three years later and he’s still bagging for fun in the premier league.

Striker require one of two things. A system that suits them or good service. Foster is getting neither at the moment. As we saw in the prem he suits a system of counter attacking football (where he got 8 goal contributions in 24 games). We are clearly not going to play that way in the championship given the quality of opposition, so the only other option is to dramatically improve the service he is getting, which at the moment Koleosho can’t pass a ball in the final third, Anthony looks very one dimensional and Mejbri is just not that type of player.

The introduction of Flemming as a ten should really improve Foster’s chances
Very sensible comment, although I think it may work best with Foster off the left and Flemming as a deep-lying forward/'false 9'

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Re: Foster

Post by Steve-Harpers-perm » Sat Oct 05, 2024 9:09 pm

elwaclaret wrote:
Sat Oct 05, 2024 7:22 pm
Where was there anything to run onto? Where did we find him facing goal with room to move into in front of him? Where did we look to find him attacking the six yard box?
Well to run onto anything you would first have to first make a movement yourself. He’s good at chasing the ball back to the keeper and defenders when he has no chance of winning it which is always an easy crowd pleaser on the turf.
Three times in first ten mins we had crossing positions on the left he wasn’t in the box so we had to check box plus our only shot on goal that was parried again he wasn’t even in the box alongside Kolesho.

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Re: Foster

Post by Down_Rover » Sat Oct 05, 2024 9:27 pm

Obafemi?

Scored a great goal today

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Re: Foster

Post by 123EasyasBFC » Sat Oct 05, 2024 9:34 pm

I was against Foster on the right last season but I would really consider him from the right this season, like him drive with the ball like he did first game against Luton.

I don’t think foster is a striker, he reminds me of joelinton, he’s going to end up deeper

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Re: Foster

Post by 123EasyasBFC » Sat Oct 05, 2024 9:34 pm

Down_Rover wrote:
Sat Oct 05, 2024 9:27 pm
Obafemi?

Scored a great goal today
Great goal? It deflected off the rovers defender

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Re: Foster

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Sat Oct 05, 2024 9:41 pm

Down_Rover wrote:
Sat Oct 05, 2024 9:27 pm
Obafemi?

Scored a great goal today
The same Obafemi that has scored 5 goals in the last 3 years

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Re: Foster

Post by 123EasyasBFC » Sat Oct 05, 2024 10:16 pm

YouTube highlight reels can be deceiving but none of the highlights of foster before we signed him, showed him with his back to goal leading the line, it came from him being wider, foster needs room to move and drive with pace and power
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Re: Foster

Post by Devils_Advocate » Sat Oct 05, 2024 10:23 pm

Foster needs to be played as a false #4 where he sets up as a holding midfield player but has all the room to pick the ball up deep and drive at the opposition. If you then had Brownhill and Cullen in the midfield with Flemming as a false #9 then I reckon we'd be one good winger away from being as good as we were two years ago

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Re: Foster

Post by Neil » Sat Oct 05, 2024 11:21 pm

Devils_Advocate wrote:
Sat Oct 05, 2024 10:23 pm
Foster needs to be played as a false #4 where he sets up as a holding midfield player but has all the room to pick the ball up deep and drive at the opposition. If you then had Brownhill and Cullen in the midfield with Flemming as a false #9 then I reckon we'd be one good winger away from being as good as we were two years ago
Very good, made me smile

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Re: Foster

Post by Wile E Coyote » Sat Oct 05, 2024 11:37 pm

contrast vardy with foster, vardy is epitome of speed and awareness, or he was , but our players seem half asleep by comparison. koleosho is in the wide awake club, but he hasn't many pals in there.

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Re: Foster

Post by bfcmik » Sun Oct 06, 2024 12:45 am

People are saying we aren't playing to his strengths, maybe that's true, BUT, as Barnes often showed, if there are only scraps on offer, you have to work, work, and then do more work, to, (a), get on the end of those scraps and do your best with them, whether that be having a go at goal or just holding it and trying to bring in a colleague, and, (b), hustle and bustle trying to distract, challenge or terrorise defenders into making mistakes. Foster does a bit of the hustle and bustle and that's about it for me from what I've seen from him since the transfer window closed. Rarely attacks the goal when Luca, Antony or Sarmiento are trying to get to the byline. Disappointing.
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Re: Foster

Post by Robbie_painter » Sun Oct 06, 2024 8:21 am

Mark the Claret wrote:
Sat Oct 05, 2024 6:18 pm
I'd rather have Weghorst than Foster.
I’d rather have delroy facey

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Re: Foster

Post by Down_Rover » Sun Oct 06, 2024 8:37 am

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Sat Oct 05, 2024 9:34 pm
Great goal? It deflected off the rovers defender
Always a great goal v bastards

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Re: Foster

Post by warksclaret » Sun Oct 06, 2024 5:56 pm

You can argue the system and formation may not suit him, but he needs to show an awful lot more application and consistency. Has been given a lot of slack by both managers, however if we had a top 6 genuinely good No 9, he would now not be starting. He also needs to cut out the bitching and arguing with the ref, because at this rate he could be the first of our suspensions from yellow cards
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Re: Foster

Post by superdimitri » Mon Oct 07, 2024 8:39 am

Wile E Coyote wrote:
Sat Oct 05, 2024 11:37 pm
contrast vardy with foster, vardy is epitome of speed and awareness, or he was , but our players seem half asleep by comparison. koleosho is in the wide awake club, but he hasn't many pals in there.
Exactly. He needs to be more instinctive and release the ball faster. He would have scored when it dropped to him in the box but he took far to long to shoot.

A quick punt is sometimes all you need. I'd like to see him study some traditional fox in the box players like Austin or Wood.

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Re: Foster

Post by Clive 1960 » Mon Oct 07, 2024 8:49 am

Foster is not a target man in my opinion but the problem is who do you put up top with him as Jay has had his day and Fleming plays behind the strike but saying that he played well on is own up front at Leeds but since as been injured so it's a worry and needs to be sorted...

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Re: Foster

Post by Tackler49 » Mon Oct 07, 2024 8:14 pm

For all his efforts etc he doesn’t seem to have the positional sense a good striker needs,when we break forward how often is he in the box anticipating balls coming in he seems to want to come deep to get the ball like Harry Kane but that’s where the comparison ends. Hopefully after this break some of the players who are “on the grass “ will be ready for selection

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Re: Foster

Post by Goliath » Mon Oct 07, 2024 8:45 pm

Clive 1960 wrote:
Mon Oct 07, 2024 8:49 am
Foster is not a target man in my opinion but the problem is who do you put up top with him as Jay has had his day and Fleming plays behind the strike but saying that he played well on is own up front at Leeds but since as been injured so it's a worry and needs to be sorted...
I don't really get this disregarding of Jay completely. Of course he's past his best but we didn't seem too hindered by him in the Cardiff game. He just has to be used at the right times and in the right way. Ie ball into his feet/chest and runners around him.

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Re: Foster

Post by IanMcL » Tue Oct 08, 2024 7:38 am

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Sat Oct 05, 2024 10:16 pm
YouTube highlight reels can be deceiving but none of the highlights of foster before we signed him, showed him with his back to goal leading the line, it came from him being wider, foster needs room to move and drive with pace and power
More Andre Gray than Chris Wood.

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Re: Foster

Post by jojomk1 » Tue Oct 08, 2024 4:42 pm

Elizabeth wrote:
Sat Oct 05, 2024 5:28 pm
Totally dominated by their centre half with ease today which disappointed me as I thought strength was one of his few qualities. It's true he's not getting chances but the one time near the end when we needed sharpness from him he fell short.
I think the only quality he has is running into space with the wall so effectively in this set up he is impotent.
Foster played a lone striker role against three huge centre backs and two wing backs

Disappointed that they were able to dominate him ???

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Re: Foster

Post by boatshed bill » Tue Oct 08, 2024 4:52 pm

jojomk1 wrote:
Tue Oct 08, 2024 4:42 pm
Foster played a lone striker role against three huge centre backs and two wing backs

Disappointed that they were able to dominate him ???
I didn't think he was particularly dominated, but he was certainly given very little help.

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