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jdrobbo
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by jdrobbo » Tue Dec 10, 2024 9:01 pm
Andy Davies (Hampshire) v Derby County
How to Score
A. Decision Making (including use of advantage) - out of 25
B. Consistency - out of 25
C. Fitness and Positioning - of 25
D. Control and Authority - out of 25
Please only Rate the Ref if you attended the game and only do so, after the game has ended. Thank you
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jdrobbo
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by jdrobbo » Tue Dec 10, 2024 9:45 pm
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MDWat
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by MDWat » Tue Dec 10, 2024 9:48 pm
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A shocker.
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by Tricky Trevor » Tue Dec 10, 2024 9:49 pm
Apart from the 2 pens we should have had, handball Phillips and grappling as a Koleosho cross came in, he was decent. He got both drop balls correct whilst the crowd were laying into him. The first one the last touch was off a Derby player and the second he gave to us but he could have pulled Sarmiento up for handball after he’d dropped it. Used his common sense there.
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MeeActon1
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by MeeActon1 » Tue Dec 10, 2024 10:08 pm
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Absolutely atrocious. Didn’t cost us the game but he was abysmal.
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ClaretTony
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by ClaretTony » Tue Dec 10, 2024 10:09 pm
Absolutely bizarre performance
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quoonbeatz
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by quoonbeatz » Tue Dec 10, 2024 10:37 pm
Another referee with zero understanding of football.
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Steve-Harpers-perm
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by Steve-Harpers-perm » Tue Dec 10, 2024 10:45 pm
Wanted to be centre of attention. Needs to learn the basic rules of the game.
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BigGaz
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by BigGaz » Tue Dec 10, 2024 10:45 pm
The only main takeaway from this reffing performance was just further proof that the role of a linesman nowadays is seemingly to call offside and anything blatant in front of their eyes.
Anything else they will just defer to the referee.
Lino "that's 100% a Burnley throw, right in front of my eyes"
Ref "I see that as a Derby throw"
Lino "say no more boss"
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by Bosscat » Tue Dec 10, 2024 11:02 pm
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Woodleyclaret
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by Woodleyclaret » Tue Dec 10, 2024 11:06 pm
Total shite I agree worst we've had.
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by bfcjg » Tue Dec 10, 2024 11:28 pm
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Shocking performance, allowed time wasting,niggly fouls, got in the way to often missed blatant penalties.
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by IanMcL » Wed Dec 11, 2024 3:01 am
Horrendous.
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Beagleheart
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by Beagleheart » Wed Dec 11, 2024 7:51 am
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superdimitri
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by superdimitri » Wed Dec 11, 2024 8:20 am
He let so much go the Derby players knew they could block with their hands and foul at every opportunity with no repercussions.
Meanwhile we didn't have the nous to take advantage of it and get more bodies into the box to fall over.
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by agreenwood » Wed Dec 11, 2024 8:29 am
I still can’t fathom how the ball hitting him during a phase of our possession, resulted in their goalkeeper regaining the ball and everyone lining up on the half way line.
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Enola Gay
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by Enola Gay » Wed Dec 11, 2024 8:42 am
A typical Championship referee.
By which I mean basically a spectator enjoying a leisurely jog-trot on the path of least resistance. Happy to let under-pressure teams break up play through strategic ‘injury’ breaks, happy not to award fouls and call it ‘letting the game flow’, happy for goalkeepers protecting a point/lead fit in a level of Candy Crush before each goal kick.
Weak.
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Rileybobs
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by Rileybobs » Wed Dec 11, 2024 8:47 am
Rubbish.
On a wider point, the lawmakers need to clamp down on goalkeeper cramp which we see once or twice in every game now - and I include Burnley in that. As always, clubs will find ways to circumvent the laws of the game and in this instance they know that goalkeepers will not have to leave the field of play after receiving treatment on the pitch. The simple answer would be if the goalkeeper needs treatment the captain has to spend the next 30 seconds on the sideline.
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Bordeauxclaret
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by Bordeauxclaret » Wed Dec 11, 2024 8:52 am
Rileybobs wrote: ↑Wed Dec 11, 2024 8:47 am
Rubbish.
On a wider point, the lawmakers need to clamp down on goalkeeper cramp which we see once or twice in every game now - and I include Burnley in that. As always, clubs will find ways to circumvent the laws of the game and in this instance they know that goalkeepers will not have to leave the field of play after receiving treatment on the pitch. The simple answer would be if the goalkeeper needs treatment the captain has to spend the next 30 seconds on the sideline.
I don’t see any interest in getting to grips with time wasting.
Was it after the World Cup last year when they said they’d start adding more time on. That lasted a few weeks.
The rules they’ve brought in just make it worse, players falling to floor constantly but don’t need a physio so the game stops but they don’t have to go off.
The feigning of pretending to take a short goal kick before sending everyone up field anyway.
All adds to an increasingly dull spectacle.
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beddie
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by beddie » Wed Dec 11, 2024 8:58 am
I’ve mentioned before how a lot of the refs fail to clamp down on time wasting from the first minute. Why they don’t go the keeper and tell him “I warning you now if you carry on I’ll book you straight away “ but what does he do, wait until 10 mins from the end. Davies looked out of his depth to me.
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by DAVETHEVICAR » Wed Dec 11, 2024 9:49 am
Ok booking the goalkeeper and other players for time wasting I completely agree however in the stoppage time at the end of the game we were time wasting with Trafford goal kicks taking about 30 seconds to get ti the half way line, instead of getting it forward much more quickly.
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by Rowls » Wed Dec 11, 2024 9:57 am
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Giving them the drop ball when we were on the attack was appalling.
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by MT03ALG » Wed Dec 11, 2024 10:39 am
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Another referee who has probably never kicked a football
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Poulton-le-Claret
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by Poulton-le-Claret » Wed Dec 11, 2024 10:42 am
No idea how are people giving him decent scores for positioning, when he got his positioning so badly wrong twice that the ball hit him

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by Claretincraven » Wed Dec 11, 2024 10:46 am
Stop, start, stop, start, ad infinitum.
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Absolutely no idea how to manage a game at this level.
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by Turfmoorclaret » Wed Dec 11, 2024 12:25 pm
Thought he was poor last night that being said the dropped ball he gave to their keeper was due to the game being stopped in the penalty area and law states the keeper gets the ball in that situation which is crazy but I can't pin that on him.
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by Cardclaret » Wed Dec 11, 2024 2:33 pm
It was a bit bizarre the second time the ball hit the referee. I was in the CFS and it looked like the ref motioned to play on after it hit him. A couple of seconds later he blew for a head injury to a Derby player laid in the box. As soon as this was given said Derby player jumped up grinning knowing that the restart must be by a goalkeeper. It looked blatant cheating to me to get the game stopped and regain possession.
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by ClaretTony » Wed Dec 11, 2024 2:38 pm
Cardclaret wrote: ↑Wed Dec 11, 2024 2:33 pm
It was a bit bizarre the second time the ball hit the referee. I was in the CFS and it looked like the ref motioned to play on after it hit him. A couple of seconds later he blew for a head injury to a Derby player laid in the box. As soon as this was given said Derby player jumped up grinning knowing that the restart must be by a goalkeeper. It looked blatant cheating to me to get the game stopped and regain possession.
He played on because we retained possession but then stopped the game, as you said, for the Derby player pretending to be injured. When he restarted from that he had no option but to drop it for the keeper. The problem was, he didn't have a clue what they were up to.
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by Ric_C » Wed Dec 11, 2024 5:02 pm
2 mins injury time for the first half was an absolute joke. Couldn't wait to give soft fouls to them, missed a few nailed on fouls in key positions for us.
Booked the keeper when it was too late. Another really poor ref
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by Silkyskills1 » Thu Dec 12, 2024 5:06 pm
Doesn't bode well for the future of the game when you see a performance like that. If he has 'made it' to a specific level enabling him to officiate in a professional football match then what are the ones who failed to make that grade like. I dislike having a 'go' at referees; without them a meaningful game cannot go ahead and my eldest brother reffed for many years in local amateur leagues. The poor ones we've had already this season I now find difficult to identify , they've morphed into one. Almost every week someone on here will comment by saying something along the lines of 'worst I've ever seen'. I honestly don't know what to suggest or if there is any solution.
Tuesday was a poor spectacle but most definetly not a difficult game to officiate and nor have most games I've seen at Turf Moor this season been.
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by nonayclaret » Thu Dec 12, 2024 6:18 pm
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Leisure
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by Leisure » Thu Dec 12, 2024 6:29 pm
Thought it was a strange decision when it was a drop ball to us in our half, the ref then drops the ball and one of our players then picked it up. The ref just dropped the ball again, surely he should have given handball against our player?