Fan Forum Application: Successful Application - Wednesday 11th December 2024

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Re: Fan Forum Application: Successful Application - Wednesday 11th December 2024

Post by Steve-Harpers-perm » Wed Dec 11, 2024 9:17 pm

Two stands need modernising but no way do we need an increase in capacity

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Re: Fan Forum Application: Successful Application - Wednesday 11th December 2024

Post by Poulton-le-Claret » Wed Dec 11, 2024 9:23 pm

Penwortham_Claret wrote:
Wed Dec 11, 2024 8:58 pm
The highlight of the night for me was when a gentleman was misgendered and had to correct Scott. It had a feel of the viral video where the police officer found a similar error offensive
Was literally just about to post the same thing :lol: just watched it back on the highlight and it's the very last question for anyone else who wants to see it!

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Re: Fan Forum Application: Successful Application - Wednesday 11th December 2024

Post by fidelcastro » Wed Dec 11, 2024 9:25 pm

Middlesbroww!!!

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Re: Fan Forum Application: Successful Application - Wednesday 11th December 2024

Post by Poulton-le-Claret » Wed Dec 11, 2024 9:26 pm

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Wed Dec 11, 2024 8:56 pm
Nothing about signing a striker in Jan? Or improving the squad at all in Jan
Someone else asked the striker questions or rather about January business - basically don't expect much in or out was the general idea.

I asked the Tresor question and it wasn't pre selected, they had time at the end for other questions. If you want to hear a waste of time question, one person asked about how his faith impacts on his role at the club :D
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Re: Fan Forum Application: Successful Application - Wednesday 11th December 2024

Post by 123EasyasBFC » Wed Dec 11, 2024 9:29 pm

Poulton-le-Claret wrote:
Wed Dec 11, 2024 9:26 pm
Someone else asked the striker questions or rather about January business - basically don't expect much in or out was the general idea.

I asked the Tresor question and it wasn't pre selected, they had time at the end for other questions. If you want to hear a waste of time question, one person asked about how his faith impacts on his role at the club :D
Just heard that question, absolutely nothing to do with Burnley or running the club, a complete waste
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Re: Fan Forum Application: Successful Application - Wednesday 11th December 2024

Post by fidelcastro » Wed Dec 11, 2024 9:30 pm

It was good of Peter Beardsley to join the audience!

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Re: Fan Forum Application: Successful Application - Wednesday 11th December 2024

Post by Steddyman » Wed Dec 11, 2024 9:32 pm

Penwortham_Claret wrote:
Wed Dec 11, 2024 8:06 pm
Only half full, lots didn’t turn up. Key take away, Tresor fully fit and refusing to play
That was my interpretation too. Also, Alan didn't sound convinced he would ever play for us, though did say he wasn't going anywhere. Alan said he'd love to see him play as much as the rest of us.

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Re: Fan Forum Application: Successful Application - Wednesday 11th December 2024

Post by Poulton-le-Claret » Wed Dec 11, 2024 9:35 pm

Steddyman wrote:
Wed Dec 11, 2024 9:32 pm
That was my interpretation too. Also, Alan didn't sound convinced he would ever play for us, though did say he wasn't going anywhere. Alan said he'd love to see him play as much as the rest of us.
I went up and asked him again off camera. He basically said that they want him to play, be couldn't promise me that Tresor feels the same way.
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Re: Fan Forum Application: Successful Application - Wednesday 11th December 2024

Post by Goody1975 » Wed Dec 11, 2024 9:36 pm

Steve-Harpers-perm wrote:
Wed Dec 11, 2024 9:17 pm
Two stands need modernising but no way do we need an increase in capacity
This has been done to death over the years but....

We do need an increase in capacity but a nominal one, probably 23,500-24,000 is sufficient. Anything more would see the ground being too big for us.

The issue with the ground is the number of substandard seats, either below pitch level (JHL), or with a restricted view of the pitch due to the supporting pillars in the Bob Lord and CFS.

Add to this, the cramped concourses in a number of areas and it's not a simple or cheap fix to bring the ground up to a better standard.

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Re: Fan Forum Application: Successful Application - Wednesday 11th December 2024

Post by fidelcastro » Wed Dec 11, 2024 9:47 pm

BNP spokesman getting to ask a question!

:roll:

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Re: Fan Forum Application: Successful Application - Wednesday 11th December 2024

Post by TsarBomba » Wed Dec 11, 2024 9:49 pm

Goody1975 wrote:
Wed Dec 11, 2024 9:36 pm
This has been done to death over the years but....

We do need an increase in capacity but a nominal one, probably 23,500-24,000 is sufficient. Anything more would see the ground being too big for us.

The issue with the ground is the number of substandard seats, either below pitch level (JHL), or with a restricted view of the pitch due to the supporting pillars in the Bob Lord and CFS.

Add to this, the cramped concourses in a number of areas and it's not a simple or cheap fix to bring the ground up to a better standard.
Symptoms of our failure to plan long term for the redevelopment of the ground.

Any ‘improvements’ have been piece meal, short term, and the ground reflects that.

I dread to think how many tens of millions we’ve spent titivating the ground and CFS in particular since our first promotion.

We can’t keep kicking this can down the road.

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Re: Fan Forum Application: Successful Application - Wednesday 11th December 2024

Post by S0S-1971 » Wed Dec 11, 2024 9:49 pm

Poulton-le-Claret wrote:
Wed Dec 11, 2024 9:35 pm
I went up and asked him again off camera. He basically said that they want him to play, be couldn't promise me that Tresor feels the same way.
I saw you at the forum

Tresor is refusing to play , it’s as clear as day and will be off in January.
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Re: Fan Forum Application: Successful Application - Wednesday 11th December 2024

Post by Goliath » Wed Dec 11, 2024 9:51 pm

'This Is a big club in a big city, with a lot of tourists'

Does he actually know where he is?

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Re: Fan Forum Application: Successful Application - Wednesday 11th December 2024

Post by Rosehill Claret » Wed Dec 11, 2024 9:52 pm

fidelcastro wrote:
Wed Dec 11, 2024 9:47 pm
BNP spokesman getting to ask a question!

:roll:
I knew I recognised him/his name from somewhere.

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Re: Fan Forum Application: Successful Application - Wednesday 11th December 2024

Post by Steddyman » Wed Dec 11, 2024 9:52 pm

Goliath wrote:
Wed Dec 11, 2024 9:51 pm
'This Is a big club in a big city, with a lot of tourists'

Does he actually know where he is?
He said 'isn't' not 'is'

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Re: Fan Forum Application: Successful Application - Wednesday 11th December 2024

Post by The Shire Claret » Wed Dec 11, 2024 9:55 pm

TsarBomba wrote:
Wed Dec 11, 2024 9:49 pm
Symptoms of our failure to plan long term for the redevelopment of the ground.

Any ‘improvements’ have been piece meal, short term, and the ground reflects that.

I dread to think how many tens of millions we’ve spent titivating the ground and CFS in particular since our first promotion.

We can’t keep kicking this can down the road.
I agree with your points but Turf Moor as a traditional ground is in fantastic condition compared to some of the stadiums up and down the country that have not seen the Premier League money we have

I went to watch Stanley play Barnsley a couple of seasons ago …

Now Oakwell is kicking the can down the road !

Loads like that

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Re: Fan Forum Application: Successful Application - Wednesday 11th December 2024

Post by Goliath » Wed Dec 11, 2024 9:56 pm

Steddyman wrote:
Wed Dec 11, 2024 9:52 pm
He said 'isn't' not 'is'
I knew I should have listened again to that bit before posting just to make sure. :oops:
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Re: Fan Forum Application: Successful Application - Wednesday 11th December 2024

Post by TsarBomba » Wed Dec 11, 2024 10:03 pm

The Shire Claret wrote:
Wed Dec 11, 2024 9:55 pm
I agree with your points but Turf Moor as a traditional ground is in fantastic condition compared to some of the stadiums up and down the country that have not seen the Premier League money we have

I went to watch Stanley play Barnsley a couple of seasons ago …

Now Oakwell is kicking the can down the road !

Loads like that
Spending millions on old stands to make them look semi presentable is exactly my point.

And when the PL millions run out, which they will, the Turf will very quickly look like Oakwell and many others.

We’ve had nigh on 10 years in the PL now, so when are we going to crack on with this? There has to be some sort of legacy beyond paying Mike Tresor £50k a week to do **** all.

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Re: Fan Forum Application: Successful Application - Wednesday 11th December 2024

Post by Burnley1989 » Wed Dec 11, 2024 10:08 pm

The Shire Claret wrote:
Wed Dec 11, 2024 9:55 pm
I agree with your points but Turf Moor as a traditional ground is in fantastic condition compared to some of the stadiums up and down the country that have not seen the Premier League money we have

I went to watch Stanley play Barnsley a couple of seasons ago …

Now Oakwell is kicking the can down the road !

Loads like that
I was slightly suprised at just how bad Sheff Wednesday is now, that place is rotting

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Re: Fan Forum Application: Successful Application - Wednesday 11th December 2024

Post by colne-claret » Wed Dec 11, 2024 10:09 pm

He’d be a bloody good politician. He dodged that question about transfer policy.

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Re: Fan Forum Application: Successful Application - Wednesday 11th December 2024

Post by The Shire Claret » Wed Dec 11, 2024 10:11 pm

Burnley1989 wrote:
Wed Dec 11, 2024 10:08 pm
I was slightly suprised at just how bad Sheff Wednesday is now, that place is rotting
Yeah it was bad…

They don’t even seat people where the pillars block the view …

Don’t know what’s going to happen to that stadium if they dont touch it for another 10-20 years … it won’t be fit for purpose

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Re: Fan Forum Application: Successful Application - Wednesday 11th December 2024

Post by The Shire Claret » Wed Dec 11, 2024 10:12 pm

TsarBomba wrote:
Wed Dec 11, 2024 10:03 pm
Spending millions on old stands to make them look semi presentable is exactly my point.

And when the PL millions run out, which they will, the Turf will very quickly look like Oakwell and many others.

We’ve had nigh on 10 years in the PL now, so when are we going to crack on with this? There has to be some sort of legacy beyond paying Mike Tresor £50k a week to do **** all.
I think it’s a lot to do with planning and the Cricket Club what has prevented us from redeveloping the Cricked Field end

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Re: Fan Forum Application: Successful Application - Wednesday 11th December 2024

Post by 123EasyasBFC » Wed Dec 11, 2024 10:14 pm

colne-claret wrote:
Wed Dec 11, 2024 10:09 pm
He’d be a bloody good politician. He dodged that question about transfer policy.
The way he answered the question about selling people in Jan, looking around the room saying ‘we haven’t ever sold anyone in Jan’ didn’t look very convincing

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Re: Fan Forum Application: Successful Application - Wednesday 11th December 2024

Post by Goliath » Wed Dec 11, 2024 10:18 pm

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Wed Dec 11, 2024 10:14 pm
The way he answered the question about selling people in Jan, looking around the room saying ‘we haven’t ever sold anyone in Jan’ didn’t look very convincing
It's a bit of a daft answer really. Twice we were a prem team so had no need to sell and once we were absolutely dominating the champ with our best players being on loan anyway. It's a different scenario this time around

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Re: Fan Forum Application: Successful Application - Wednesday 11th December 2024

Post by colne-claret » Wed Dec 11, 2024 10:21 pm

Just seen the bit about who we bring in if promoted again. Just seems like he wants to bring in players and move them on for profit. I wouldn’t be confident again that ALK will get the right personnel in again if we do get promoted.

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Re: Fan Forum Application: Successful Application - Wednesday 11th December 2024

Post by deanothedino » Wed Dec 11, 2024 10:24 pm

Goliath wrote:
Wed Dec 11, 2024 10:18 pm
It's a bit of a daft answer really. Twice we were a prem team so had no need to sell and once we were absolutely dominating the champ with our best players being on loan anyway. It's a different scenario this time around
We had 6 more points having played 2 more games last time round... it's not really that different.

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Re: Fan Forum Application: Successful Application - Wednesday 11th December 2024

Post by jdrobbo » Wed Dec 11, 2024 10:26 pm

colne-claret wrote:
Wed Dec 11, 2024 10:21 pm
Just seen the bit about who we bring in if promoted again. Just seems like he wants to bring in players and move them on for profit. I wouldn’t be confident again that ALK will get the right personnel in again if we do get promoted.
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Re: Fan Forum Application: Successful Application - Wednesday 11th December 2024

Post by Spike » Wed Dec 11, 2024 10:28 pm

We can’t afford new stands with the level of debt we are continually servicing

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Re: Fan Forum Application: Successful Application - Wednesday 11th December 2024

Post by TsarBomba » Wed Dec 11, 2024 10:28 pm

The fan asking the question around facial recognition, and the assumption that you are presumed guilty, whatever that means, couldn’t be more wrong.

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Re: Fan Forum Application: Successful Application - Wednesday 11th December 2024

Post by fidelcastro » Wed Dec 11, 2024 10:31 pm

TsarBomba wrote:
Wed Dec 11, 2024 10:28 pm
The fan asking the question around facial recognition, and the assumption that you are presumed guilty, whatever that means, couldn’t be more wrong.
A BNP spokesman wrong?

Never!
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Re: Fan Forum Application: Successful Application - Wednesday 11th December 2024

Post by 123EasyasBFC » Wed Dec 11, 2024 10:34 pm

deanothedino wrote:
Wed Dec 11, 2024 10:24 pm
We had 6 more points having played 2 more games last time round... it's not really that different.
What if we win our next 2 games we would be on the same points as 22/23 after 22 games?

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Re: Fan Forum Application: Successful Application - Wednesday 11th December 2024

Post by deanothedino » Wed Dec 11, 2024 10:37 pm

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Wed Dec 11, 2024 10:34 pm
What if we win our next 2 games we would be on the same points as 22/23 after 22 games?
Correct.

To go one step further, we're actually on the same points after 20 games now as we were in 22/23.
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Re: Fan Forum Application: Successful Application - Wednesday 11th December 2024

Post by Wokingclaret » Wed Dec 11, 2024 10:38 pm

Steve-Harpers-perm wrote:
Wed Dec 11, 2024 9:17 pm
Two stands need modernising but no way do we need an increase in capacity
Always thought with away demand 25K was right for us.

We do need a new CFS

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Re: Fan Forum Application: Successful Application - Wednesday 11th December 2024

Post by Wokingclaret » Wed Dec 11, 2024 10:39 pm

PS Brenftord new ground looking short now at just over 17k

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Re: Fan Forum Application: Successful Application - Wednesday 11th December 2024

Post by Stonehouse » Wed Dec 11, 2024 10:40 pm

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Wed Dec 11, 2024 10:14 pm
The way he answered the question about selling people in Jan, looking around the room saying ‘we haven’t ever sold anyone in Jan’ didn’t look very convincing
Didn’t we sell CW to Newcastle in Jan?

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Re: Fan Forum Application: Successful Application - Wednesday 11th December 2024

Post by ClaretTony » Wed Dec 11, 2024 10:42 pm

wadeswondergoal wrote:
Wed Dec 11, 2024 8:26 pm
It makes CT’s staunch defence of him even more strange.
Not been any staunch defence, I was just given some very good reasons why he wasn't playing and still believe those to be true at the time.
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Re: Fan Forum Application: Successful Application - Wednesday 11th December 2024

Post by Goliath » Wed Dec 11, 2024 10:42 pm

deanothedino wrote:
Wed Dec 11, 2024 10:24 pm
We had 6 more points having played 2 more games last time round... it's not really that different.
We were basically.guaranteed promotion by mid to late January. I'm.assuming that won't be the case this time based on the evidence so far.

If we win every game until then I might think.different but I don't see that happening

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Re: Fan Forum Application: Successful Application - Wednesday 11th December 2024

Post by ClaretTony » Wed Dec 11, 2024 10:46 pm

Burnley1989 wrote:
Wed Dec 11, 2024 10:08 pm
I was slightly suprised at just how bad Sheff Wednesday is now, that place is rotting
Leppings Lane was opened for the 1966 World Cup, the cantilever to the left was under construction when we went in 1961 and the main stand is very old but has had a tier added. Other than that, some seats and a roof at the Penistone Road end of the ground.

It is well run down and worryingly, they haven't learned. When that poor West Brom died there recently, I read that the passages into the stand weren't wide enough to get a stretcher in.

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Re: Fan Forum Application: Successful Application - Wednesday 11th December 2024

Post by ClaretTony » Wed Dec 11, 2024 10:48 pm

Goliath wrote:
Wed Dec 11, 2024 10:42 pm
We were basically.guaranteed promotion by mid to late January. I'm.assuming that won't be the case this time based on the evidence so far.

If we win every game until then I might think.different but I don't see that happening
Currently we have 38 points from 20 games with a goal difference of plus 17 - two seasons ago we had 38 points from 20 games with a goal difference of plus 14. The big difference will come now - in 2022/23 we won every one of games 21 to 30.
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Re: Fan Forum Application: Successful Application - Wednesday 11th December 2024

Post by colne-claret » Wed Dec 11, 2024 10:49 pm

fidelcastro wrote:
Wed Dec 11, 2024 10:31 pm
A BNP spokesman wrong?

Never!
Is he called Simon?

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Re: Fan Forum Application: Successful Application - Wednesday 11th December 2024

Post by fidelcastro » Wed Dec 11, 2024 10:49 pm

colne-claret wrote:
Wed Dec 11, 2024 10:49 pm
Is he called Simon?
Yes.

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Re: Fan Forum Application: Successful Application - Wednesday 11th December 2024

Post by Poulton-le-Claret » Wed Dec 11, 2024 10:50 pm

Stonehouse wrote:
Wed Dec 11, 2024 10:40 pm
Didn’t we sell CW to Newcastle in Jan?
To be fair to Pace, he did say something along the lines of apart from CW as our hand was forced i.e., release clause.

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Re: Fan Forum Application: Successful Application - Wednesday 11th December 2024

Post by deanothedino » Wed Dec 11, 2024 10:50 pm

Goliath wrote:
Wed Dec 11, 2024 10:42 pm
We were basically.guaranteed promotion by mid to late January. I'm.assuming that won't be the case this time based on the evidence so far.

If we win every game until then I might think.different but I don't see that happening
Because other teams are having better seasons. I think some people are being more than a little dramatic about our position. We have a good points total, that historically is a base to be promoted off.

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Re: Fan Forum Application: Successful Application - Wednesday 11th December 2024

Post by The Shire Claret » Wed Dec 11, 2024 10:50 pm

Spike wrote:
Wed Dec 11, 2024 10:28 pm
We can’t afford new stands with the level of debt we are continually servicing
Don’t think any club builds a new stadium or stands and pay for them up front

Everton certainly won’t be

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Re: Fan Forum Application: Successful Application - Wednesday 11th December 2024

Post by Wokingclaret » Wed Dec 11, 2024 10:50 pm

A good Jan transfer window for Burnley would be Magic Mike out and a goal scorer in

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Re: Fan Forum Application: Successful Application - Wednesday 11th December 2024

Post by colne-claret » Wed Dec 11, 2024 10:55 pm

fidelcastro wrote:
Wed Dec 11, 2024 10:49 pm
Yes.
I never knew about the BNP background. I think he used to sell badges/scarves on match days near wellington pub.

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Re: Fan Forum Application: Successful Application - Wednesday 11th December 2024

Post by Goliath » Wed Dec 11, 2024 10:55 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Wed Dec 11, 2024 10:48 pm
Currently we have 38 points from 20 games with a goal difference of plus 17 - two seasons ago we had 38 points from 20 games with a goal difference of plus 14. The big difference will come now - in 2022/23 we won every one of games 21 to 30.
Ye, we went to another gear at this point and by the end of Jan it was basically nailed on that we were up. There was no chance of us selling anyone at that point.

This time I think we will probably be 3rd or 4th at the same point with the tricky fixtures we have for the next month or 2. So if we get any big bids, it will be a lot more tempting

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Re: Fan Forum Application: Successful Application - Wednesday 11th December 2024

Post by fidelcastro » Wed Dec 11, 2024 10:57 pm

colne-claret wrote:
Wed Dec 11, 2024 10:55 pm
I never knew about the BNP background. I think he used to sell badges/scarves on match days near wellington pub.
He did. He may still do for all I know, but at the height of the BNP electoral success in Burnley, he was their TV spokesman on several occasions.
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Re: Fan Forum Application: Successful Application - Wednesday 11th December 2024

Post by Clowbridge89 » Wed Dec 11, 2024 10:59 pm

He’s clearly passionate about this…

https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/user/simon_bennett_2

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Re: Fan Forum Application: Successful Application - Wednesday 11th December 2024

Post by Wokingclaret » Wed Dec 11, 2024 11:01 pm

If magic Mike never plays for us again then currently

It's Mike Tresor the best assist in the Belgium league, but never good enough for the premier league.

You will go down as a shameful footballer that had misery on his face from day one to play for this proud club. Go off to your new destiny, but you are a failure in my eyes. Good Bye

Prove other wise.......still waiting......

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