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Stoke City

Post by wilks_bfc » Fri Dec 27, 2024 7:52 pm

Looking for their third coach of the season
They’ve sacked Pelach after just 3 months

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Re: Stoke City

Post by ksrclaret » Fri Dec 27, 2024 7:56 pm

I think our ex player, Jonathan Walters, now Sporting Director there, could do with taking a look in the mirror at some point.

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Re: Stoke City

Post by hoosier-daddy » Fri Dec 27, 2024 7:57 pm

wilks_bfc wrote:
Fri Dec 27, 2024 7:52 pm
Looking for their third coach of the season
They’ve sacked Pelach after just 3 months
I hope they take their time on finding a replacement. I don't want any bouncing before the 2nd of January.

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Re: Stoke City

Post by agreenwood » Fri Dec 27, 2024 8:00 pm

Funny if Eustace gets it.
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Re: Stoke City

Post by ClaretTony » Fri Dec 27, 2024 8:09 pm

ksrclaret wrote:
Fri Dec 27, 2024 7:56 pm
I think our ex player, Jonathan Walters, now Sporting Director there, could do with taking a look in the mirror at some point.
The chairman should be looking in his mirror and replacing him. He clearly got it horribly wrong with the Pelach appointment.

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Re: Stoke City

Post by ksrclaret » Fri Dec 27, 2024 8:12 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Fri Dec 27, 2024 8:09 pm
The chairman should be looking in his mirror and replacing him. He clearly got it horribly wrong with the Pelach appointment.
Always seemed very strange to take the Norwich first team coach after sacking Schumacher.

The Coates family had a reputation for running the club well but it hasn't seemed that way for a while now.

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Re: Stoke City

Post by ClaretTony » Fri Dec 27, 2024 8:19 pm

ksrclaret wrote:
Fri Dec 27, 2024 8:12 pm
Always seemed very strange to take the Norwich first team coach after sacking Schumacher.

The Coates family had a reputation for running the club well but it hasn't seemed that way for a while now.
Really strange decision I thought

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Re: Stoke City

Post by Commy » Fri Dec 27, 2024 8:26 pm

Commentator last night said the owners had instructed the manager that they wanted to get the ball forward quicker. What is the point in taking on someone who might play a different way to what you want.

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Re: Stoke City

Post by ClaretTony » Fri Dec 27, 2024 8:29 pm

Commy wrote:
Fri Dec 27, 2024 8:26 pm
Commentator last night said the owners had instructed the manager that they wanted to get the ball forward quicker. What is the point in taking on someone who might play a different way to what you want.
It happened at Burnley for certain in 2010 when Brian laws was told by a director to play 4-4-2.

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Re: Stoke City

Post by BurnleyFC » Fri Dec 27, 2024 9:03 pm

ksrclaret wrote:
Fri Dec 27, 2024 7:56 pm
I think our ex player, Jonathan Walters, now Sporting Director there, could do with taking a look in the mirror at some point.
He’s a good lad to have in the dressing room, though.

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Re: Stoke City

Post by The Shire Claret » Fri Dec 27, 2024 9:18 pm

Let’s hope they don’t have this sorted come New Year’s Day !

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Re: Stoke City

Post by hoosier-daddy » Fri Dec 27, 2024 10:04 pm

The Shire Claret wrote:
Fri Dec 27, 2024 9:18 pm
Let’s hope they don’t have this sorted come New Year’s Day !
Agree, see my reply further up.
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Re: Stoke City

Post by burnmark » Fri Dec 27, 2024 10:11 pm

Early odds from Sky Bet
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Re: Stoke City

Post by RalphCoatesComb » Fri Dec 27, 2024 10:14 pm

At 3/1 Mark Robins looks a good punt.
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Re: Stoke City

Post by Cirrus_Minor » Fri Dec 27, 2024 10:21 pm

In fairness some good candidates on that listl

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Re: Stoke City

Post by EarbyClaret » Fri Dec 27, 2024 10:28 pm

With Stoke and West Brom both in the market for a manager it would be very surprising if Mark Robins is without a club come the new year

There's Millwall too of course but they will more likely need to look elsewhere

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Re: Stoke City

Post by bobinho » Fri Dec 27, 2024 10:29 pm

I have to say that some of the players need to take some responsibility for their current situation. The lack of effort from some of them against Leeds was disgraceful.

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Re: Stoke City

Post by Wokingclaret » Fri Dec 27, 2024 10:29 pm

I thought Robins would go to WBA, not sure now

Alex Neil for Millwall

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Re: Stoke City

Post by dvalley69 » Fri Dec 27, 2024 11:27 pm

Roy Keane likes Jon Walters, maybe he'll finally end up back in management!!

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Re: Stoke City

Post by Claret knight » Fri Dec 27, 2024 11:32 pm

Joke city

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Re: Stoke City

Post by Woodleyclaret » Sat Dec 28, 2024 8:03 am

Coates are total pocket liners with Denise the worst of the lot.They are worth millions yet spend 0 on team improvement

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Re: Stoke City

Post by Stalbansclaret » Sat Dec 28, 2024 8:16 am

Woodleyclaret wrote:
Sat Dec 28, 2024 8:03 am
Coates are total pocket liners with Denise the worst of the lot.They are worth millions yet spend 0 on team improvement
They're constrained by FFP surely though

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Re: Stoke City

Post by andyh » Sat Dec 28, 2024 8:35 am

Woodleyclaret wrote:
Sat Dec 28, 2024 8:03 am
Coates are total pocket liners with Denise the worst of the lot.They are worth millions yet spend 0 on team improvement
You really know nothing dont you. Whilst I dont know them well I can tell you with 100% certainty that Peter would have done anything for Stoke City. And while not as interested in the football Denise not only loves the club but the town as well. You can call her for making money from gambling but she really doesn’t need the money the football club generates as the first female self made billionairess.

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Re: Stoke City

Post by Spijed » Sat Dec 28, 2024 8:53 am

Hopefully this means they play with more confidence against us and won't park the bus with a new manager in charge.

That'll give us a better chance of winning.
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Re: Stoke City

Post by summitclaret » Sat Dec 28, 2024 10:17 am

Spijed wrote:
Sat Dec 28, 2024 8:53 am
Hopefully this means they play with more confidence against us and won't park the bus with a new manager in charge.

That'll give us a better chance of winning.
Very unlikely. They have all seen how to get a point at ours and what happens if you don't do it.

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Re: Stoke City

Post by ArmchairDetective » Sat Dec 28, 2024 10:23 am

What has happened at Stoke over the last few years? Seems a bit like Man U where regardless of which manager goes in they seem to have problems.

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Re: Stoke City

Post by claretburns » Sat Dec 28, 2024 1:56 pm

Woodleyclaret wrote:
Sat Dec 28, 2024 8:03 am
Coates are total pocket liners with Denise the worst of the lot.They are worth millions yet spend 0 on team improvement
They are buggered by FFP rules to be fair. They had some breathing space in the summer before 23/24 season and spent £24 million and hopes were high of a good season but it turned out to be money wasted and another mid-table season and after that expenditure they're back under the constraints of FFP. They need to sell a couple of players but it wasn't helped summer just gone where a potential profitable sale of Tyrese Campbell didn't happen due to him being out of contract and signing for Sheff Utd on a free.

The Stoke owners certainly have money to pump into the club but their hands are tied.
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Re: Stoke City

Post by Sgt. Pepper » Sat Dec 28, 2024 5:17 pm

Stoke is rapidly becoming a very difficult club to manage.
I live in the Potteries, and the locals aren't happy. Walters appears to be destroying the club with his huge ego, despite having none of the skills/experience of a proper DOF.
He didn't exactly pull up trees at Fleetwood.
Apparently he sacked Schumacher who questioned the quality of players Walters was bringing to the club, and appointed a yes man who also has no experience, which has gone catastrophically badly. Obviously he won't take any responsibility for the failure.
The current Stoke chairman John Coates is regarded as the member of the Coates family with zero business acumen.
If they're not careful they could drop down to League One.
No matter what the reservations some have about our ownership, we have to be thankful we're not run by someone so misguided that a figure like Walters is given such massive control of the club.

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Re: Stoke City

Post by ClaretTony » Sat Dec 28, 2024 5:25 pm

Woodleyclaret wrote:
Sat Dec 28, 2024 8:03 am
Coates are total pocket liners with Denise the worst of the lot.They are worth millions yet spend 0 on team improvement
Nothing could be further from truth
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Re: Stoke City

Post by Woodleyclaret » Sat Dec 28, 2024 5:39 pm

If Coates are so good for Stoke how have they managed to ruin the playing side?.Appointing a director of football with questionable man management skills and sacking managers for fun doesn't help.

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Re: Stoke City

Post by bodge » Sat Dec 28, 2024 5:49 pm

The Coates family are in the process of pumping millions into upgrading their training centre.

They will be constrained by FFP on the playing side but to suggest they are poor custodians or pocket liners is utterly bonkers.

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Re: Stoke City

Post by Stonehouse » Sat Dec 28, 2024 6:00 pm

I think one of Denise Coates’s charities is directly linked with a home in Burnley for youngsters with psychological problems .
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Re: Stoke City

Post by dougcollins » Sat Dec 28, 2024 6:06 pm

Stoke were the worst team I've seen in the Championship this season against Leeds on Thursday.

Truly dreadful. Leeds laboured to be honest, but should have won by four or five.
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Re: Stoke City

Post by basil6345789 » Sat Dec 28, 2024 6:34 pm

Stonehouse wrote:
Sat Dec 28, 2024 6:00 pm
I think one of Denise Coates’s charities is directly linked with a home in Burnley for youngsters with psychological problems .
A couple of years ago her helicopter landed at Burnley Golf Club. I believe she was visiting said home. Polite, unassuming woman.

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Re: Stoke City

Post by Hipper » Sun Dec 29, 2024 10:30 am

dougcollins wrote:
Sat Dec 28, 2024 6:06 pm
Stoke were the worst team I've seen in the Championship this season against Leeds on Thursday.

Truly dreadful. Leeds laboured to be honest, but should have won by four or five.
I'm surprised you saw much if you looked at the game on TV. Half the time half the pitch was not visible at all because of fog/mist!

But I agree, it was the most one sided Championship match I've seen this season.
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Re: Stoke City

Post by PremierLeagueClass » Sun Dec 29, 2024 10:33 am

I said after we played them Pelach didn’t have long left. The complete lack of any fight after we went ahead was telling.

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Re: Stoke City

Post by CoolClaret » Sun Dec 29, 2024 11:33 am

Stonehouse wrote:
Sat Dec 28, 2024 6:00 pm
I think one of Denise Coates’s charities is directly linked with a home in Burnley for youngsters with psychological problems .
Nice little tax evasion for her then whilst her business cripples the lives of tens of thousands up and down the land.

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Re: Stoke City

Post by taio » Sun Dec 29, 2024 11:42 am

CoolClaret wrote:
Sun Dec 29, 2024 11:33 am
Nice little tax evasion for her then whilst her business cripples the lives of tens of thousands up and down the land.
Are you sure it's tax evasion?

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Re: Stoke City

Post by Swizzlestick » Sun Dec 29, 2024 11:50 am

While I’m not usually in the business of defending billionaires, but isn’t Denise Coates one of the biggest individual UK taxpayers?

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Re: Stoke City

Post by dougcollins » Sun Dec 29, 2024 5:35 pm

And they beat Sunderland today.

It's a funny old game.
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Re: Stoke City

Post by ecc » Sun Dec 29, 2024 6:44 pm

I thought they played well although a draw would have been a fair result. However, good news for us!

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Re: Stoke City

Post by RVclaret » Wed Jan 01, 2025 9:13 am

Appointed Mark Robins. Decent appointment.

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Re: Stoke City

Post by The Shire Claret » Wed Jan 01, 2025 9:22 am

Seems to happen a lot to us where teams get new managers in just before they play us

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Re: Stoke City

Post by RVclaret » Wed Jan 01, 2025 9:28 am

The Shire Claret wrote:
Wed Jan 01, 2025 9:22 am
Seems to happen a lot to us where teams get new managers in just before they play us
He won’t be in charge of the game today.

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Re: Stoke City

Post by The Shire Claret » Wed Jan 01, 2025 9:30 am

RVclaret wrote:
Wed Jan 01, 2025 9:28 am
He won’t be in charge of the game today.
No but he will be watching and their players will know it.

I still think we win but just gives them an extra boost

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