Is It High Time For A Premier League Division Two?

[fidelcastro]

The lad is clueless. He knows nothing about football. So pleae don't bite.

That's a bit rich, isn't it Muchacho Frank?

Best ask your Huddersfield fan mate for some advice!

[Jakubclaret]

A cursory glance at the Premier League table would suggest it’s currently a very competitive division. Why would you want to change that?

Not really the 2 things which appear to be abnormal is city's situation & the surprise package nottingham forest the rest is pretty much as you were. You could perhaps suggest spurs & MU should be higher but it's nothing that alarming.

[Jakubclaret]

The lad is clueless. He knows nothing about football. So pleae don't bite.

If only that was in isolation. Regarding extensive irrefutable scientific research he isn't exactly au fait in that as well.

[Holtyclaret]

If it was that simple, they'd have already suggested it, but things like a salary cap or a limitation on foreign players, like we used to have, are more sensible suggestions than yours.

What would be the incentive for players of a promoted side to give 100 per cent, if they know there is no downside to finishing bottom of the league?

The first year the core of the promoted team could be retained giving them their rightful and earned stab at becoming premier league players rather than binning and replacing a whole squad in a mad panic summer window like vk and others have tried to do. Allowing promoted clubs the time to use money wisely and stopping the boom or bust nature of things as they stand now.

But yes there’s no simple solution.

[fidelcastro]

The first year the core of the promoted team could be retained giving them their rightful and earned stab at becoming premier league players rather than binning and replacing a whole squad in a mad panic summer window like vk and others have tried to do. Allowing promoted clubs the time to use money wisely and stopping the boom or bust nature of things as they stand now.

But yes there’s no simple solution.

Clubs don't have to blow their budget on unsuitable players like we did.

[fidelcastro]

If only that was in isolation. Regarding extensive irrefutable scientific research he isn't exactly au fait in that as well.

Whereas you're just clueless about everything.

[Jakubclaret]

Whereas you're just clueless about everything.

[Tricky Trevor]

A salary cap could only be brought in on a club squad basis. Individual salary caps are illegal but as corrupt as some owners are they would find ways around it.

[timshorts]

Man Utd are no longer considered a top six club.

And they are 700 million in debt.

Wasn't that the sort of thing that ffp was supposed to be ridding us of? Their players are average and the ground is falling apart. Not a good recipe.

Yet man city are the ones with ffp problems. And forest. And Newcastle, and they are all financially sound.

As I've said before, whilst a draft won't work at all, and a salary cap would not be much better, a limit on the number of players that each club has would work OK if extended to loaned out players . If Chelsea were limited to x over 17 year olds and y 12-17 year olds, then had to cut any excess, we might be in business.

Of course, man u and Chelsea would still have to pay the guys for the rest of their contract. So if man United cut, say Anthony, and nobody else wanted to pay his wages through a waiver system, he would be cut, and would then be free to sign for anybody he wants at minimum wage, man u having to top up the wages until the end of the contract.

You could avoid getting in a mess by not buying a hotel's worth of players unless you had to sell one at the same time.

[timshorts]

5 subs is too many. Having even more than that sitting on their arses watching every week is worse. Limit the bench to 4 players plus one gk.

And the only difference I think that a Premier 2 would have is less teams. I can't see the championship clubs voting for that unless there were very good financial incentives to risk not being a Notts County, voting for a Premier league while in the top flight and then never being a premier league club.

Of course that gets a lot easier if the owners of Liverpool and man United take their franchises into the European world league or whatever it will be called. Tier 2 can then go down to 22 clubs no problem.

[clerkenwell.claret]

In the not too distant future it’s likely that there will be sufficient premier league clubs with American owners to change Premier League rules.

It’s been suggested that they will create a closed shop without promotion and relegation.