Dyche

[DCWat]

Sadly for Sean, Ipswich are showing real resilience in the past four or five games and no longer the certainties to get relegated leaving Saints/Leicester /Ipswich or Everton as the 3 to get relegated. Wolves I believe will escape relegation.The new owners will be worried at Everton

If the get rid of Dyche, I’d love to see them get relegated.

[warksclaret]

If the get rid of Dyche, I’d love to see them get relegated.

And that is more than a distinct possibility, and in view of their flirtation with relegation since the Lampard era ,it might be the time for them to go down

[DCWat]

And that is more than a distinct possibility, and in view of their flirtation with relegation since the Lampard era ,it might be the time for them to go down

There can’t be much skin left on their teeth!!

[Shaggy]

If the get rid of Dyche, I’d love to see them get relegated.

I’d love to see them relegated with Dyche that would be even funnier, if nothing more than to wind up all the nuthuggers on here

[IanMcL]

I think he will. Dyche did it for us but his Achilles heel was his stubborn faithfulness to underperforming players and it all went sour in the end. The Dyche years were great, fantastic, after what we’d been used to, but having Dyche back would be like going back to an old girlfriend, and I’ve never done that either.

But he didn't. He let players go, when we were recruiting. However, when the support was withdrawn for Garlick's 'fill my pockets' process, particularly around covid, he had to resign players who would have been replaced, at any other club.

[IanMcL]

I don't know why he pilots up with all the crap at Everton. He has worked miracles with nothing and yet the fans want him replaced by someone else, most likely to get them relegated!

They had some very good results against a series of top teams, before running out of steam. Same players, no depth, injuries to key players, not least Dwight McNeil.

Still working his miracles.

[ClaretPete001]

Zilch resources? He spent £45m on Beto and Chermiti and neither would get into our side atm.

They've sold a lot of good players and not spent anything in terms of a net spend.

Beto was a desperate January buy because of injury to Dom Calvin Lewin last season.

I think the days of blaming managers for transfer spends are over because as often as not they don't have the final say in the players, the negotiations or the budget.

[jrgbfc]

With their squad where they are in league is probably about par. This idea on here that he's working miracles is rubbish.

[warksclaret]

He has a massive job on his hands. I really rate Sean but always thought since Loughler left that he lost someone that really complemented him. Steve Stone was never a good replacement

[KRBFC]

They've sold a lot of good players and not spent anything in terms of a net spend.

Beto was a desperate January buy because of injury to Dom Calvin Lewin last season.

I think the days of blaming managers for transfer spends are over because as often as not they don't have the final say in the players, the negotiations or the budget.

Beto was signed in the summer

[Woodleyclaret]

Either way Beto is pony and DCL wants to be a model and plays when he feels like it.

[theduke]

He's going to be sacked, and rightly so. been dreadful this season

[Goliath]

People seem to forget that they sold Onana in the summer. How do they expect to improve selling their best players and not being able to replace them. The expectations are ludicrous.

I'm pretty sure the signings they've made since Dyche has been there have basically just been players they could get for very generous installments with hardly any upfront fee.
He's not been allowed to build the squad he wants at all so I think he's doing a tremendous job under the limitations.

[theduke]

They've sold a lot of good players and not spent anything in terms of a net spend.

Beto was a desperate January buy because of injury to Dom Calvin Lewin last season.

I think the days of blaming managers for transfer spends are over because as often as not they don't have the final say in the players, the negotiations or the budget.

He's spent money on the following players recently:

Beto
Chermiti
N'Diyae
O'brien

He also signed on Loan Lindstrom, Harrison and Mangala.

He's had funds. He's treated Beto, Lindstrom and O'brien dreadfully. Rumours are that loads of players have had enough and openly told the club about his methods and his awful footy. DCL for one has stopped playing for him.

He's a dinosaur, modern football has left him behind.

[theduke]

People seem to forget that they sold Onana in the summer. How do they expect to improve selling their best players and not being able to replace them. The expectations are ludicrous.

I'm pretty sure the signings they've made since Dyche has been there have basically just been players they could get for very generous installments with hardly any upfront fee.
He's not been allowed to build the squad he wants at all so I think he's doing a tremendous job under the limitations.

He's done an awful job. What expectations? No Everton fan thinks they should be challenging for Europe etc.

But they want a shot at goal and some passing. He hasn't even made them solid, Pickford has kept them in games.

[Woodleyclaret]

Dinosaur or not entitled Everton fans should be very wary of hounding the best manager they've had since Moyes.Financial instability and the insane let's have a new ground Idea haven't helped
Stans quote about champagne tastes with beer money comes to mind.

[theduke]

Best manager since Moyes? What?

Koeman
Silva
Ancelotti

Just a reminder of the managers they've had since Moyes.

[Quickenthetempo]

He's spent money on the following players recently:

Beto
Chermiti
N'Diyae
O'brien

He also signed on Loan Lindstrom, Harrison and Mangala.

He's had funds. He's treated Beto, Lindstrom and O'brien dreadfully. Rumours are that loads of players have had enough and openly told the club about his methods and his awful footy. DCL for one has stopped playing for him.

He's a dinosaur, modern football has left him behind.

There's not a chance Dyche signed them players he has kept on the bench. DoF written all over them.

They haven't got a single player who could play for a footballing manager. Best to clear out the crap and bring in some better footballers in the summer. A complete overhaul.

[Goliath]

He's done an awful job. What expectations? No Everton fan thinks they should be challenging for Europe etc.

But they want a shot at goal and some passing. He hasn't even made them solid, Pickford has kept them in games.

An awful job?
He's kept them in the division with zero resources, a poor squad and dreadful fans. They don't have the players to play a passing game after losing Onana, they tend to concede a shedload when they do without much reward.

He has a central midfield of Mangala, Gueye and Doucoure ffs, how on earth are you going to get a footballing side out of that.

Not to mention full backs of Mykolenko and Young (Patterson can't defend before he gets mentioned).
I think 90npercent of managers would relegate that side, Dyche had them above Brighton in total points last season I believe. It was an incredible achievement, up there with some of his Burnley achievements.

[randomclaret2]

I don't know why he pilots up with all the crap at Everton. He has worked miracles with nothing and yet the fans want him replaced by someone else, most likely to get them relegated!

They had some very good results against a series of top teams, before running out of steam. Same players, no depth, injuries to key players, not least Dwight McNeil.

Still working his miracles.

£5m a year always helps when you've crap to put up with

[ClaretPete001]

He's spent money on the following players recently:

Beto
Chermiti
N'Diyae
O'brien

He also signed on Loan Lindstrom, Harrison and Mangala.

He's had funds. He's treated Beto, Lindstrom and O'brien dreadfully. Rumours are that loads of players have had enough and openly told the club about his methods and his awful footy. DCL for one has stopped playing for him.

He's a dinosaur, modern football has left him behind.

Since 21/22 Everton have sold Eur100 million players more than they have bought...! The squad has declined dramatically in terms of value and the players you cite are not good enough for anything other than a relegation scrap - if that.

I have no idea what role Dyche played in signing them but facts are facts look them up.

But to be honest I don't care ? I hope Everton sack him now and then we can see whether another manager gets a tune from those players.

[dvalley69]

Zilch resources? He spent £45m on Beto and Chermiti and neither would get into our side atm.

Top of the spending charts then in the Prem with that amount over 2 years at the helm! And managers have all the say on transfers nowadays of course...

[IanMcL]

I suspect platers arrive and he is told to get on with it.

You can only play football and win with excellent players. He has a very average mish mash of a squad, as the best qere sold to keep the debt down and the finances seen to be improving, to avoid further point deduction.

Calvert-Lewin plays for himself. He'll be gone soon.

Whatever happens, Sean Dyche will get his contract paid.
He has worked wonders given the arrival point and points deducted.

[Stayingup]

I don't know why he pilots up with all the crap at Everton. He has worked miracles with nothing and yet the fans want him replaced by someone else, most likely to get them relegated!

They had some very good results against a series of top teams, before running out of steam. Same players, no depth, injuries to key players, not least Dwight McNeil.

Still working his miracles.

Correct. Didn't get the backing latterly here. Its interesting that much of the money VK spent came from sales of players Dyche signed or promoted to the first team.

[Goliath]

It's mad that people are acting like Beto and Chermiti are players Dyche would really have wanted to help rebuild a squad if he had the choice.

[dandeclaret]

Best manager since Moyes? What?

Koeman
Silva
Ancelotti

Just a reminder of the managers they've had since Moyes.

You post 10 times as much about Everton as Burnley.... are you sure you're on the right message board?

[Papabendi]

He's spent money on the following players recently:

Beto
Chermiti
N'Diyae
O'brien

He also signed on Loan Lindstrom, Harrison and Mangala.

He's had funds. He's treated Beto, Lindstrom and O'brien dreadfully. Rumours are that loads of players have had enough and openly told the club about his methods and his awful footy. DCL for one has stopped playing for him.

He's a dinosaur, modern football has left him behind.

Not exactly a huge number of players given that statistically, quite a number will always fail at any club. How many did Kompany sign for Burnley? There is no question to me - Dyche has not had it easy at Everton. The main problem he has there, and going forwards is the impression of his approach / style of play is going to be difficult to shake regardless of whether factually he is willing to be adaptable based on the situation (he's had two very similar ones)

[Big Vinny K]

He's spent money on the following players recently:

Beto
Chermiti
N'Diyae
O'brien

He also signed on Loan Lindstrom, Harrison and Mangala.

He's had funds. He's treated Beto, Lindstrom and O'brien dreadfully. Rumours are that loads of players have had enough and openly told the club about his methods and his awful footy. DCL for one has stopped playing for him.

He's a dinosaur, modern football has left him behind.

He’s brought more in player sales under his tenure than he has spent. How many other managers in the EPL have had to do this ?

It’s ok saying he spent £45m on Beto and Chermiti - it’s easy to be selective at the ones that haven’t worked out. We spent the equivalent last summer on Amdouni, Tresor and Ramsey.

We played Dyche’s Everton last season 3 times and it was embarrassing how big the gap was between the 2 teams. We did not lay a glove on them.

As for DCL he’s been running his contract down and spent a lot of the time under Dyche unfit or injured. DCL “stopped playing” for him 2 years ago.

Dyche took over a sh-it team who were going to get relegated - which would have been a financial disaster with the new stadium. He’s had to cope with points deductions and less money to spend than any other team in the EPL and yet they still comfortably stayed up last season.

If he’s a dinosaur do you seriously think a young modern manager like VK would have done any better ?
The disrespect and rubbish talked about the best manager we have had in the last 50 years never ceases to amaze me.

[Stonehouse]

Sean was brilliant for us but Director of Football no thanks.

[mikeS]

After the turmoil Everton have been through for the past three or four years, with points deductions, lack of funds etc. Changes in ownership etc, Sean Dyche has performed a miracle every season to keep them up where others would have failed. He deserves credit.

[KRBFC]

He’s brought more in player sales under his tenure than he has spent. How many other managers in the EPL have had to do this ?

It’s ok saying he spent £45m on Beto and Chermiti - it’s easy to be selective at the ones that haven’t worked out. We spent the equivalent last summer on Amdouni, Tresor and Ramsey.

We played Dyche’s Everton last season 3 times and it was embarrassing how big the gap was between the 2 teams. We did not lay a glove on them.

As for DCL he’s been running his contract down and spent a lot of the time under Dyche unfit or injured. DCL “stopped playing” for him 2 years ago.

Dyche took over a sh-it team who were going to get relegated - which would have been a financial disaster with the new stadium. He’s had to cope with points deductions and less money to spend than any other team in the EPL and yet they still comfortably stayed up last season.

If he’s a dinosaur do you seriously think a young modern manager like VK would have done any better ?
The disrespect and rubbish talked about the best manager we have had in the last 50 years never ceases to amaze me.

Everton have never been relegated from the PL, even Frank kept them up so to say they were going to get relegated before Dyche arrived is complete fantasy stuff, it sounds good though!

[Conroy92]

For the job that Dyche did here, I find it hard that any supporter of this football club could really say a bad word about him.

Yet here we are.

Hang your heads in shame gents.

[Clovius Boofus]

There's a real clammer now for Dyche to be potted. Can't see him lasting the week. I'll laugh my head off if they sack him and end up being relegated at the end of the season.

[colne-claret]

Dyche was very much the manager Burnley needed back in 2012 and we were the club that Dyche needed. Perfect match. Sadly, I’m not sure he will ever be able to replicate the success he had with us. Would I have him back one day? Maybe. Depends on our situation.

[IanMcL]

For the job that Dyche did here, I find it hard that any supporter of this football club could really say a bad word about him.

Yet here we are.

Hang your heads in shame gents.

If ever we do statues, he is the man!

[Shaggy]

If ever we do statues, he is the man!

It will be more expansive than his style of play that’s for sure.

[Targetman]

It will be more expansive than his style of play that’s for sure.

Keep it up lad, you keep us all amused!

[Plissken]

Its interesting that much of the money VK spent came from sales of players Dyche signed or promoted to the first team.

Of course they were pretty much all signed by him or promoted to the first team. He was here for nine years.

[houseboy]

But he didn't. He let players go, when we were recruiting. However, when the support was withdrawn for Garlick's 'fill my pockets' process, particularly around covid, he had to resign players who would have been replaced, at any other club.

The main argument I had about Dyche was his complete unwillingness to drop a badly performing Barnes at the time. He would stick with his favourites when we had better players sitting on the bench. I often wonder why, for instance, JBG was so frequently ‘injured’ under Dyche but was remarkably injury free once he’d gone. I don’t know and we never will but I think there was a problem there that was nothing to do with injuries. But that’s just a supposition.

[beddie]

For the job that Dyche did here, I find it hard that any supporter of this football club could really say a bad word about him.

Yet here we are.

Hang your heads in shame gents.

Spot on.

[bigdavethemaddog]

if he is sacked then he wont be out of work long unless he takes a break like Moyes has

[Shaggy]

if he is sacked then he wont be out of work long unless he takes a break like Moyes has

Aye he might get the Luton job if his ego could handle it.

Would be a perfect fit for each other.

[claretonthecoast1882]

Aye he might get the Luton job if his ego could handle it.

Would be a perfect fit for each other.

Genuine question why do you have such an irrational dislike for someone who did such a good job for us ?

[Shaggy]

Genuine question why do you have such an irrational dislike for someone who did such a good job for us ?

Nothing irrational about it, he stayed well beyond his time with us and should have been sacked sooner.

I didnt like his football style, favouritism to aging workhorses, his ego (especially after he left us, wasn’t exactly complimentary)

Basically could see right through him. The irrational view is the people who treat him like a god. Yes he had a couple of good seasons with us but some also very bad ones.

I find his failures humorous as I know it will be hurting his ego and as a bonus the nuthuggers get wound up about it.

[burnleycclaret]

Gods of football, please make this happen.

Forest win the Premier League and Everton get relegated. What a mad season that would be.

[Dyched]

Nothing irrational about it, he stayed well beyond his time with us and should have been sacked sooner.

I didnt like his football style, favouritism to aging workhorses, his ego (especially after he left us, wasn’t exactly complimentary)

Basically could see right through him. The irrational view is the people who treat him like a god. Yes he had a couple of good seasons with us but some also very bad ones.

I find his failures humorous as I know it will be hurting his ego and as a bonus the nuthuggers get wound up about it.

Just a “couple”

[Ric_C]

The goal they conceded against Bournemouth would never have gone in against us. The full back turns his back and Branthwaite ducks out of the way!

That must've really fumed Dyche

[RVclaret]

Sky last night showed that Everton have scored just 26 open play goals since the start of last season (and one of them being Muric smashing the ball straight into DCL). Ignoring the 3 newly promoted teams, the next lowest was on 56.

[claretonthecoast1882]

Nothing irrational about it, he stayed well beyond his time with us and should have been sacked sooner.

I didnt like his football style, favouritism to aging workhorses, his ego (especially after he left us, wasn’t exactly complimentary)

Basically could see right through him. The irrational view is the people who treat him like a god. Yes he had a couple of good seasons with us but some also very bad ones.

I find his failures humorous as I know it will be hurting his ego and as a bonus the nuthuggers get wound up about it.

So you wanted him gone and he has gone, have you tried moving on ?

You don't like his football why watch on tv then ? Something a bit odd about disliking something and to keep watching it. Like you say though for you it isn't irrational.

His failures as you put it will no doubt still be a lot more than you will ever achieve in life, maybe more progression could be made if you moved on from him.

[IanMcL]

Nothing irrational about it, he stayed well beyond his time with us and should have been sacked sooner.

I didnt like his football style, favouritism to aging workhorses, his ego (especially after he left us, wasn’t exactly complimentary)

Basically could see right through him. The irrational view is the people who treat him like a god. Yes he had a couple of good seasons with us but some also very bad ones.

I find his failures humorous as I know it will be hurting his ego and as a bonus the nuthuggers get wound up about it.

I think you will be in a very small minority.
You also overlooked the backdrop of goings on behind the scenes, outwith the managers control.